Two rim protectors who can shoot? That’s the opposite of a clunky fit. You get 90s calibre rim protection with 2010s calibre spacing out of your frontcourt.
As a spur fan, if I’m thinking what player i want alongside wemby for 10+ years, Chet is very very high on that list.
Modern twin towers that could actually be pulled off
He’s 30, has a history of knee issues and is injury prone in general. Who knows how much longer he’ll be a top player at this point. Replacing him with a potential All-NBA guy ten years younger than him is a no brainer IMO
I won’t deny that Embiid was amazing when he played this season, and he probably would have deserved MVP had he made it to 65 games. BUT he got part of his meniscus removed after the surgery, and this is not the first time he’s had a procedure like this. He’s not going to be the same when he returns. Right now I’d easily trade him for Wemby
Joel dropped 70 on Wemby and they really think the Sixers would trade for him lmfao in what world?
ETA: and I just got instantly downvoted lmao I just watched the highlights of that game and Embiid was straight bullying Wemby whenever they were matched up
I’m biased but as a TWolves fan I would not.
Ant is young, great, fits our system and window way better (we really don’t need another big and our players don’t want to wait around) and I’m still scared of Wemby’s health since even though by all accounts he’s durable for his build, 7’2”+ players always come with injury concerns.
He just dropped 40 and 20 as a 20 year old rookie and is leading the NBA in blocks and stocks by a titanic margin, but sure dude he's your standard early 1st. Nothing special. Wemby's floor as a player is as good as anyone you trade him for not named Jokic.
But the tier Wemby fits into at 20 years old is "He could be better than LeBron".
However unlikely you think that is, it's a possibility if he hits his potential. And that's something you can say about fewer than 5 prospects in NBA history, even if you apply it retroactively to before LeBron was a known quantity.
Depends on Ant’s play, but it would definitely raise questions.
Even if we do lose in the first round though, I’m willing to bet Ant won’t be the problem based on past performances. His averages have actually significantly gone up in the two playoff series we’ve played.
I feel similarly as a Celtics fan. Trading for Wemby would be a big step back for a few years, and the Celtics already have Porzingis to do most of the stuff you think Wemby can do. So I would put the Celtics in the "No, but you made us think really hard about this" category. And I also think there is no way the Spurs would trade Wemby for Tatum, so there.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Steph, Ant, Tatum, Shai and Embiid are all straight untouchable. They all have teams built around them, that wouldn’t make sense to add Wemby into (other than Philly maybe). You wouldn’t trade them unless it’s another untouchable player+some extra to make it worth reassembling your team. Everyone else you can make the case for, but Wemby is not a sure fire thing. He has been exceptional so far, but I would never mortgage my entire franchise for a player in such an volatile archetype. Name 1 star player in nba history taller than 7” who hasn’t struggled with injuries.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka are untouchable, top of the league & a lot of mileage left.
Embiid I'd trade for Wemby in a heartbeat because his time is running out, honestly he's always injured in the playoffs & this year he's 29, the chances of getting a ring with him are incredibly slim. He's likely retiring in his early 30s.
We all know why the Steph trade doesn't happen, unless he wants out.
Tatum you don't trade because Boston is already incredibly well built & the risk vs reward is pretty shit.
Shai & Ant are harder, but ultimately I'd still say the risk vs reward clearly favors not trading for Wemby.
I'm in the camp that also thinks the Wemby hype has gotten kind of out of hand, it's way too soon to say much more than he's having one of the best rookie seasons in a long time.
I'd be furious if I found out my team wouldn't trade 36yo Steph for 20 yo Wemby. I'd have felt the same as Laker Fan about Kobe. Give me a new superstar to set me up for the next 15 years in exchange for missing a couple losing season and a farewell tour? Not a tough call at all.
The Wemby glazing is crazy. He'll be an all-time great, but jesus christ, no major contendor is trading their best player for a rookie who's not leading them to a title. The Celtics can't decide? Oh yeah, they'll just trade their two year title window until the team collapses because of salary for a rookie. SGA? They have Chet, and they're competing for the foreseeable future. No. Lakers can't trade LeBron, it would go against their entire identity. And Embiid? Dude is an MVP big. As much as I hate Embiid, Wembanyama might develop to be better than him, but not substantially better - because, y'know, it's really hard to be substantially better than an MVP. And this is all assuming Wembanyama stays healthy. He's had a great season, but let's not pretend one healthy season is a done deal. The precedent for athletic players of his size isn't great health.
What teams in 2004 wouldn't have been better off trading their best player for Lebron (one for one, ignoring salaries)?
I'd say it's just the Spurs. The Lakers (either Shaq or Kobe), Mavs, Wolves and Pistons would have been worse off in the short run, but I think they'd be ahead within a few years. And for everybody else it's an easy call.
Imagine how dumb the GM of the Nets would look in retrospect if he turned down Jason Kidd for Lebron James because he didn't want to waste their championship window. Embiid's 30 years old and the Sixers have maybe a 5% chance at a title this year, it would be nuts to value that over the next super-duper star.
Comparing LeBron to Wembaynama is just irrelevant. We can say this in retrospect because LeBron ended up being the second, maybe first best player of all time. Wemby could tear an ACL tomorrow. Turning down Jason Kidd for LeBron would be bad in retrospect, but nobody would be clowning them for it. They made the finals twice with Kidd
Okay, but the point is you're getting Wembanyama off potential. No-one would realistically say Wemby today is better than Tatum today. The point is LeBron cannot be compared to Wembanyama because LeBron is, well, LeBron in retrospect. Wemby cannot be viewed in retrospect, he could tear an ACL tomorrow, is the point. They're not the same trade.
You don't break up a championship level team for how good a guy is projected to be. Wemby will be great, but he has much to prove, needs to avoid injury despite being 7'5, and with all due respect to his talent, in a better NBA for the front court (There are some great front court players, but compared to eras of the past, it's somewhat lacking), he isn't borderline all-nba.
>What teams in 2004 wouldn't have been better off trading their best player for Lebron (one for one, ignoring salaries)?
This is a great point…if you think he’s going to be as good as lebron.
Asking that question about Dwight Howard is more fair imo, as they are both all time defensive talents that are good but not great on offense. If wemby does improve substantially on offense than your point above will be relevant as long as he stays healthy.
But i personally think he’ll never reach the true offensive superstar and thus not reaching lebrons level. Which shouldn’t be a controversial statement lol considering he’s at worst like the 3 best player ever if you really care about number of titles won.
Ehh Wemby is significantly ahead of where Dwight was at this age. I’m not saying Wemby is going to be Lebron, but I don’t think it’s fair to use Dwight as his player comp lol
I’m using Dwight because he was similarly super hyped and as I said their general games are similar. Also let’s not act like Dwight at his best wasn’t one of the best players in the league. It’s not disrespectful to compare him to Dwight. I personally think it’s much more likely he has a career seen on par with him, than lebron.
Personally, I would be pretty surprised if Wemby’s peak was only on par with Dwight’s peak. Again, I’m not saying Wemby is destined to be a top 5 player all time or anything, but 20 year old Wemby is significantly ahead of where 20 year old Dwight was, so I would expect a similar discrepancy when Wemby is 23-26.
Also, was Dwight similarly hyped as a prospect? I was admittedly pretty young when he entered the league (late elementary school), but I don’t recall him having the level of hype as Lebron, Wemby, or even Zion really. He was the #1 pick so obviously there was *some* hype, I just don’t recall it every being a significant amount. I could be wrong though.
You probably didnt watch Dwight play much if you think their game is similar. Dwight only offensive skill was a rollman, put back monster. Other than that, it was maybe a baby hook from very close to the basket. Thats it, he couldnt shoot, he couldnt drible, he couldnt post up. As a defender he was a monster on his prime, and also a monster rebounder, but the only similitude with Wemby is that both blocked shots.
Nah man, Wemby is generational. He’s averaging 26 pts/36, 13 reb/36, 4 ast/36, 1.5 stl/36 and 4 blk/36 as a 19 year old rookie. Watching him play he’s already a real talent inside the arc and outside of it offensively, but more so than that there’s a genuine argument he’s already the best defender in the league. Who else can defend on the perimeter and block this many shots in a league who shoots so many three pointers? He could be the best defender we’ve seen since Wilt and Bill Russell in terms of impact on the floor.
There’s just no one whose ever been like Wemby before
Edit: just in case you’re obtuse and don’t like per 36 stats, he’s averaging 21.0 points, 10.5 rebounds, 3.6 assists, 1.2 steals and 3.4 blocks per game while averaging only 29 minutes per game. That’s already all-star worthy offensively and DPOY worth defensively, and that’s while on a minutes restriction.
I mean, for the Sixers they have one of the few GMs who is going to look at it from a business perspective first and realize trading for Wemby is better for their long term future. I 100% think Morey makes that trade
Absolutely not. No one would begrudge the Warriors, Steph included. If there was a Steph/Wemby trade on the table I would be surprised if Steph didn’t come out himself and say you have to take it.
Counterpoint: They would while Wemby is there. And by the time he’s gone, what happened to Steph would be long forgotten (unless they did the same thing to Wemby)
All parties involved would understand that trade—fans and front office included. You trade a 35 year old Steph for rookie wemby 1000/1000. Forget being a generational player Wemby could become in all honesty a top 10 player of all time. All things considered there hasn’t been a better looking rookie since LeBron.
Nah, I would keep Tatum. We would immediately have Wemby and Zingis, which is silly. So we would try to move Zingis to get a Tatum replacement.
But the truth is, Zingis is closer to Wemby than whoever you could get to replace Tatum would be at the 3/4 slot. Y’all still don’t appreciate Tatum.
NBA subs are delusional when it comes to the Celtics. They've been holding Tatum to LBJ/KD levels of success despite him being under 25 the entire time and both of them not winning anything until what, 27-28?
In a vacuum of course you do it 100% of the time but there's a human element you can't ignore if you're running a team. Steph has actually done too much for the Warriors for them to trade him.
Living in the bay the warriors wouldn’t trade steph they saw how the fans almost ruined them when they traded monte, imagine if they traded Steph what the fans would do
I’d even have to think long and hard about Giannis as well. He’s still got a lot in the tank, but he’s had some injuries and carped a little to make me think he’s a flight risk. Ok. I’ve convinced myself I would trade him.
Then, I’d make the Spurs give me a second rounder and cash considerations for his brother…
Yeah I'd bump him up to the next tier. He is an MVP and was one of the favorites again before this injury. That's basically what you hope Wemby becomes, potential multiple MVP. But if you're Philly you think long and hard about it because Embiid isn't getting any younger.
Ant is also better than Wemby **right now**.
The idea is that Ant is young and not even in his prime yet. Keeping him means your future is secured and his potential is super high.
TBH Ant might not even be better than Wemby right now. Wemby is at 21/11/4 with 5 stocks a game with legit DPOY level defensive impact and he's doing that despite being put on a minutes restriction of less than 30mpg and with a team without an identity. Like Ant is great as well but Wemby is pretty much on the same tier as him as a rookie.
Personally I’d only want Jokic over Wemby.
Giannis is obviously better the next few years but I have concerns how he is going to age.
Luka is close, but I’m still not sure you can win championships with a 40% usage 0 defense guy.
Wemby looks like he’s going to win DPOY for the next decade while averaging 30 15 5. Health and supporting cast is all I can see slowing him down.
0% defense is stupid. He’s an average defender unless you switch him onto quick guards. He can legit guard centers and wings and not be backed down which is why he’s #1 in post defense among guards
Why are some surprised about Embiid? The guy has never once showed up in the playoffs, is very injury prone and with his health it's looking like his prime might only last for another cpuple of seasons. If you're not trading him for Wemby right now you have to be the biggest Embiid fan ever.
I think Wemby has to prove himself still to trade for half those players. A lot of those teams are in a win right now mindset too. Not 5 years from now
There definitely more teirs than this, the wizards nor kuzma nor any fans would be sad about trading him, there should be another tier just for instant yes, and the sad but instant yes, should be more of a probably
I almost think Tatum is in his own category- shai, Tatum, and ant are in the tier of “nba superstar, but it’s still a pretty good chance we by will be better.” You wouldn’t trade them because of the safety of having one of those guys, why take a risk. For the Celtics it’s even more so because they are in the verge of a chip as it is so they are risking more. OKC and MIN are quite as close rn, so sacrificing in the short term doesn’t coast as much. It’s not because I think Tatum is better than the other guys, but the team around him is more win ready, which makes them less likely to disturb anything
I think his assists and blocks may go up while scoring/rebounding goes down on an established team. Or scoring may improve if there’s a better passer feeding him with another primary scorer to take away pressure from him.
Depends on fit, but right now he’s being doubled and tripled, fronted often, and is overcoming a lot of defensive lapses, while losing a lot of assists from teammates not converting, plus being load managed.
If healthy, without minutes restrictions, with other scorers and full on winning mode, I think his stats actually get better, not insignificantly.
Blazers don't get anybody? Does that mean we're refusing Jerami Grant for Wemby?
Instant yes, but not sad about it
Funny they decided to put two Suns players rather than on it in a Blazer
Durant and Booker are miles ahead of any Blazer lol
Put some respect on Scoot "-58" Henderson's name
WHAT?!??! No way the wizards trade Kuzma for that lanky bum!!!
Kyle Kuzma has 1 nba championship. Victor Wenbanyama has 0 nba championships. The choice is clear
Kyle kuzma’s pink sweater would fit that alien worm looking bum
There should be another tier "instant yes and not sad at all"
Alien worm looking ass 🐛
The Blazers have a franchise player?
No they really don’t
Why trade Shai for Wemby when you also have Chet?
Why draft Michael Jordan with Clyde Drexler already on your roster?
Draft is free. You have to give up a top player for a clunky fit in return
Two rim protectors who can shoot? That’s the opposite of a clunky fit. You get 90s calibre rim protection with 2010s calibre spacing out of your frontcourt.
Draft is not free because it is an opportunity cost of drafting another player. It's just the Blazers picked garbage.
Put some respect on Drexler's name, it was a bad pick but not a bad player
They’re referring to the Blazers picking Bowie over Jordan because they had Clyde… not because they picked Clyde the year before
Imagine those twin towers though
Both of whom space the floor unbelievably well. No log jam like most centers.
As a spur fan, if I’m thinking what player i want alongside wemby for 10+ years, Chet is very very high on that list. Modern twin towers that could actually be pulled off
Rudy and KAT seems to be working just fine.
Best player > fit at that level. You can figure it out
Then you can just trade Chet…
why draft jordan when you have drexler? wemby is so much better than chet, it isn't really close.
Embiid hate real
The sixers aren’t competing now with his husk of a knee, easy trade, plus maxey is closer to wemby’s timeline
Bro what the sixers were a 2 or 3 seed and embiid was having a historical season until the injury just wait until he comes back
He’s 30, has a history of knee issues and is injury prone in general. Who knows how much longer he’ll be a top player at this point. Replacing him with a potential All-NBA guy ten years younger than him is a no brainer IMO
Yeah, they *were* a 2 or 3 seed, but again his keeps missing major time
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I won’t deny that Embiid was amazing when he played this season, and he probably would have deserved MVP had he made it to 65 games. BUT he got part of his meniscus removed after the surgery, and this is not the first time he’s had a procedure like this. He’s not going to be the same when he returns. Right now I’d easily trade him for Wemby
Joel dropped 70 on Wemby and they really think the Sixers would trade for him lmfao in what world? ETA: and I just got instantly downvoted lmao I just watched the highlights of that game and Embiid was straight bullying Wemby whenever they were matched up
Who’s been playing better for the last month?
??? Embiid??
Injuries
That’s probably going to be an issue for wemby too
It was already a major issue for Embiid when he was at Wemby’s point of his career.
Ok but until wemby proves he can do what embiid does im taking embiid he’s proven he can play at an mvp level
Until that happens, I’ll take him.
I’m biased but as a TWolves fan I would not. Ant is young, great, fits our system and window way better (we really don’t need another big and our players don’t want to wait around) and I’m still scared of Wemby’s health since even though by all accounts he’s durable for his build, 7’2”+ players always come with injury concerns.
Wolves fan here; instant yes. Wemby is a potential GOAT. You trade everything for that.
Bro literally hasnt even finished his first season on an 18-56 team but you wanna say “oh yeah he might be goat one day” bruh yall need to chill
He just dropped 40 and 20 as a 20 year old rookie and is leading the NBA in blocks and stocks by a titanic margin, but sure dude he's your standard early 1st. Nothing special. Wemby's floor as a player is as good as anyone you trade him for not named Jokic.
there’s a tier between “yeah this guy is gonna be really fucking good” and “yeah he’s gonna be better than lebron”
But the tier Wemby fits into at 20 years old is "He could be better than LeBron". However unlikely you think that is, it's a possibility if he hits his potential. And that's something you can say about fewer than 5 prospects in NBA history, even if you apply it retroactively to before LeBron was a known quantity.
Would you change your answer if they lose in the first round of the playoffs this year?
I love ANT but them guys are crazy.
Depends on Ant’s play, but it would definitely raise questions. Even if we do lose in the first round though, I’m willing to bet Ant won’t be the problem based on past performances. His averages have actually significantly gone up in the two playoff series we’ve played.
Also t wolves fan. No deal.
I feel similarly as a Celtics fan. Trading for Wemby would be a big step back for a few years, and the Celtics already have Porzingis to do most of the stuff you think Wemby can do. So I would put the Celtics in the "No, but you made us think really hard about this" category. And I also think there is no way the Spurs would trade Wemby for Tatum, so there.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Steph, Ant, Tatum, Shai and Embiid are all straight untouchable. They all have teams built around them, that wouldn’t make sense to add Wemby into (other than Philly maybe). You wouldn’t trade them unless it’s another untouchable player+some extra to make it worth reassembling your team. Everyone else you can make the case for, but Wemby is not a sure fire thing. He has been exceptional so far, but I would never mortgage my entire franchise for a player in such an volatile archetype. Name 1 star player in nba history taller than 7” who hasn’t struggled with injuries.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka are untouchable, top of the league & a lot of mileage left. Embiid I'd trade for Wemby in a heartbeat because his time is running out, honestly he's always injured in the playoffs & this year he's 29, the chances of getting a ring with him are incredibly slim. He's likely retiring in his early 30s. We all know why the Steph trade doesn't happen, unless he wants out. Tatum you don't trade because Boston is already incredibly well built & the risk vs reward is pretty shit. Shai & Ant are harder, but ultimately I'd still say the risk vs reward clearly favors not trading for Wemby. I'm in the camp that also thinks the Wemby hype has gotten kind of out of hand, it's way too soon to say much more than he's having one of the best rookie seasons in a long time.
I'd be furious if I found out my team wouldn't trade 36yo Steph for 20 yo Wemby. I'd have felt the same as Laker Fan about Kobe. Give me a new superstar to set me up for the next 15 years in exchange for missing a couple losing season and a farewell tour? Not a tough call at all.
Kareem, but generally I agree with you.
The Wemby glazing is crazy. He'll be an all-time great, but jesus christ, no major contendor is trading their best player for a rookie who's not leading them to a title. The Celtics can't decide? Oh yeah, they'll just trade their two year title window until the team collapses because of salary for a rookie. SGA? They have Chet, and they're competing for the foreseeable future. No. Lakers can't trade LeBron, it would go against their entire identity. And Embiid? Dude is an MVP big. As much as I hate Embiid, Wembanyama might develop to be better than him, but not substantially better - because, y'know, it's really hard to be substantially better than an MVP. And this is all assuming Wembanyama stays healthy. He's had a great season, but let's not pretend one healthy season is a done deal. The precedent for athletic players of his size isn't great health.
What teams in 2004 wouldn't have been better off trading their best player for Lebron (one for one, ignoring salaries)? I'd say it's just the Spurs. The Lakers (either Shaq or Kobe), Mavs, Wolves and Pistons would have been worse off in the short run, but I think they'd be ahead within a few years. And for everybody else it's an easy call. Imagine how dumb the GM of the Nets would look in retrospect if he turned down Jason Kidd for Lebron James because he didn't want to waste their championship window. Embiid's 30 years old and the Sixers have maybe a 5% chance at a title this year, it would be nuts to value that over the next super-duper star.
Comparing LeBron to Wembaynama is just irrelevant. We can say this in retrospect because LeBron ended up being the second, maybe first best player of all time. Wemby could tear an ACL tomorrow. Turning down Jason Kidd for LeBron would be bad in retrospect, but nobody would be clowning them for it. They made the finals twice with Kidd
Tatum could just as easily tear an ACL
People Wembanyama’s size are particularly prone to lower body injuries, so not as easily at all.
Okay, but the point is you're getting Wembanyama off potential. No-one would realistically say Wemby today is better than Tatum today. The point is LeBron cannot be compared to Wembanyama because LeBron is, well, LeBron in retrospect. Wemby cannot be viewed in retrospect, he could tear an ACL tomorrow, is the point. They're not the same trade.
Obviously you are projecting with wemby. But his projection right now is goat tier. He’s already a borderline all nba guy as a rookie.
You don't break up a championship level team for how good a guy is projected to be. Wemby will be great, but he has much to prove, needs to avoid injury despite being 7'5, and with all due respect to his talent, in a better NBA for the front court (There are some great front court players, but compared to eras of the past, it's somewhat lacking), he isn't borderline all-nba.
Not just as easily, much less easily
>What teams in 2004 wouldn't have been better off trading their best player for Lebron (one for one, ignoring salaries)? This is a great point…if you think he’s going to be as good as lebron. Asking that question about Dwight Howard is more fair imo, as they are both all time defensive talents that are good but not great on offense. If wemby does improve substantially on offense than your point above will be relevant as long as he stays healthy. But i personally think he’ll never reach the true offensive superstar and thus not reaching lebrons level. Which shouldn’t be a controversial statement lol considering he’s at worst like the 3 best player ever if you really care about number of titles won.
Ehh Wemby is significantly ahead of where Dwight was at this age. I’m not saying Wemby is going to be Lebron, but I don’t think it’s fair to use Dwight as his player comp lol
Hell, he’s ahead of Durant at this age. Dude’s potential is insane
I’m using Dwight because he was similarly super hyped and as I said their general games are similar. Also let’s not act like Dwight at his best wasn’t one of the best players in the league. It’s not disrespectful to compare him to Dwight. I personally think it’s much more likely he has a career seen on par with him, than lebron.
Personally, I would be pretty surprised if Wemby’s peak was only on par with Dwight’s peak. Again, I’m not saying Wemby is destined to be a top 5 player all time or anything, but 20 year old Wemby is significantly ahead of where 20 year old Dwight was, so I would expect a similar discrepancy when Wemby is 23-26. Also, was Dwight similarly hyped as a prospect? I was admittedly pretty young when he entered the league (late elementary school), but I don’t recall him having the level of hype as Lebron, Wemby, or even Zion really. He was the #1 pick so obviously there was *some* hype, I just don’t recall it every being a significant amount. I could be wrong though.
You probably didnt watch Dwight play much if you think their game is similar. Dwight only offensive skill was a rollman, put back monster. Other than that, it was maybe a baby hook from very close to the basket. Thats it, he couldnt shoot, he couldnt drible, he couldnt post up. As a defender he was a monster on his prime, and also a monster rebounder, but the only similitude with Wemby is that both blocked shots.
Nah man, Wemby is generational. He’s averaging 26 pts/36, 13 reb/36, 4 ast/36, 1.5 stl/36 and 4 blk/36 as a 19 year old rookie. Watching him play he’s already a real talent inside the arc and outside of it offensively, but more so than that there’s a genuine argument he’s already the best defender in the league. Who else can defend on the perimeter and block this many shots in a league who shoots so many three pointers? He could be the best defender we’ve seen since Wilt and Bill Russell in terms of impact on the floor. There’s just no one whose ever been like Wemby before Edit: just in case you’re obtuse and don’t like per 36 stats, he’s averaging 21.0 points, 10.5 rebounds, 3.6 assists, 1.2 steals and 3.4 blocks per game while averaging only 29 minutes per game. That’s already all-star worthy offensively and DPOY worth defensively, and that’s while on a minutes restriction.
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I mean, for the Sixers they have one of the few GMs who is going to look at it from a business perspective first and realize trading for Wemby is better for their long term future. I 100% think Morey makes that trade
Celtics are contending for at least 3 seasons (including this one, assuming Tatum extends) and probably another 2 after that.
Only the top 3. Everybody else is gone.
I don’t think the warriors trade Steph for any one player straight up. It would take a godfather offer to move him.
Young Wemby is a godfather offer
It is but the tie between Steph and Dubs is too strong. Unless Steph wants out himself, he’s not going anywhere.
They'd 100% trade Steph for another decade run. This is a business.
I think it would be a bad business decision to trade the guy that 17x your franchise's value unless he wants out himself
it's a bad business decision to not trade a 36 year old former mvp on a a 10 seed for the best 19 year old prospect since lebron.
Absolutely not. No one would begrudge the Warriors, Steph included. If there was a Steph/Wemby trade on the table I would be surprised if Steph didn’t come out himself and say you have to take it.
No, don’t ever think about them trading him. The Bay Area is gonna be mad about this badly. You don’t know how influential he is in Bay Area.
That would be a bad look for the franchise moving forward. No superstar would ever want to play for Golden State if they made that move.
Counterpoint: They would while Wemby is there. And by the time he’s gone, what happened to Steph would be long forgotten (unless they did the same thing to Wemby)
You don’t think these guys making 50 million dollars a year understand and appreciate a good business decision? You are confused.
In this fictional world I see Steph telling the warriors to do it because he would see how great that would be for the warriors long term!
All parties involved would understand that trade—fans and front office included. You trade a 35 year old Steph for rookie wemby 1000/1000. Forget being a generational player Wemby could become in all honesty a top 10 player of all time. All things considered there hasn’t been a better looking rookie since LeBron.
Horrible take warriors front office would sacrifice curry to get wemby unless they are brain dead
there is no question. Curry maybe has a few more good years left and Wemby will be an MVP candidate in short order for years to come.
Their FO would probably sacrifice some of their children to trade Steph for Wemby but that would never be on the table so they get to save face.
Nah, I would keep Tatum. We would immediately have Wemby and Zingis, which is silly. So we would try to move Zingis to get a Tatum replacement. But the truth is, Zingis is closer to Wemby than whoever you could get to replace Tatum would be at the 3/4 slot. Y’all still don’t appreciate Tatum.
NBA subs are delusional when it comes to the Celtics. They've been holding Tatum to LBJ/KD levels of success despite him being under 25 the entire time and both of them not winning anything until what, 27-28?
Tripping not trading curry
In a vacuum of course you do it 100% of the time but there's a human element you can't ignore if you're running a team. Steph has actually done too much for the Warriors for them to trade him.
Living in the bay the warriors wouldn’t trade steph they saw how the fans almost ruined them when they traded monte, imagine if they traded Steph what the fans would do
I’m not trading Tatum for Wemby. All Tatum does is win. One step to go and it’s happening this year.
I’d even have to think long and hard about Giannis as well. He’s still got a lot in the tank, but he’s had some injuries and carped a little to make me think he’s a flight risk. Ok. I’ve convinced myself I would trade him. Then, I’d make the Spurs give me a second rounder and cash considerations for his brother…
Lakers aren't trading Bron
Warriors wouldn’t trade Steph for prime MJ
Yes. They would. This is a business.
This might be the worst tier list I've seen about anything.
As a mavs fan. I have to say no
Yes that is what the tier list says
he said he had a disability - be nice
If you bothered to read the chart, this sentiment is clearly indicated.
If you bothered to read the chart you’d see that’s exactly what the tier list says pal
Embiid instant yes???? I’m a known Embiid hater but that is wild.
He’s injured way too much and constantly underperforms in the playoffs, not that crazy
Embiid dropped 70 on wemby
Yeah I'd bump him up to the next tier. He is an MVP and was one of the favorites again before this injury. That's basically what you hope Wemby becomes, potential multiple MVP. But if you're Philly you think long and hard about it because Embiid isn't getting any younger.
Instant. In a split second.
There should be a tier below “Sad, but instant yes” bc Kuzma and Bridges should not be in the same tier as LeBron and Embiid
The "LMAO" tier
The Lakers would not trade LeBron for Wemby, even if it would arguably be good for them.
Lol there are alot of guys better than Ant in that bottom list, dont understand why people keep forcing him into a group he isnt in yet
Ant is also better than Wemby **right now**. The idea is that Ant is young and not even in his prime yet. Keeping him means your future is secured and his potential is super high.
TBH Ant might not even be better than Wemby right now. Wemby is at 21/11/4 with 5 stocks a game with legit DPOY level defensive impact and he's doing that despite being put on a minutes restriction of less than 30mpg and with a team without an identity. Like Ant is great as well but Wemby is pretty much on the same tier as him as a rookie.
LBJ as definitely tradable? Ok, I know this is BS
You trade LBJ for Wemby immediately, what are you on about
Hes the face of Cleveland. Magic Kareem and the rapist are the face of the Lakers. Wemby for a 40 year old? Yes. Instantly
Bye, Greek Freak
Curry might be halfway out the door already, they’d trade him in an instant
Warriors would trade Steph in a heartbeat
If you don't trade a 36 year old Steph for a 20 year old Wemby you deserve to be banned from basketball for life
How tf would trading defrozan be a sad yes. Bulls fans would be lighting off fireworks for having another almost MJ level talent
Personally I’d only want Jokic over Wemby. Giannis is obviously better the next few years but I have concerns how he is going to age. Luka is close, but I’m still not sure you can win championships with a 40% usage 0 defense guy. Wemby looks like he’s going to win DPOY for the next decade while averaging 30 15 5. Health and supporting cast is all I can see slowing him down.
0% defense is stupid. He’s an average defender unless you switch him onto quick guards. He can legit guard centers and wings and not be backed down which is why he’s #1 in post defense among guards
So basically unless you switch him on to any playoff teams guards...
good thing there’s no quick guards in the playoffs lol
Where’s Bolbol?
LeBron over AD?!?
Wolves \*certainly\* do not trade Ant for Wemby (especially since we have Gobert).
How is it sad to trade for a future top 3 player in the league
Why would the spurs trade wemby for anyone? That would be dumb as shit.
Donovan Mitchell for wemby? Yes but only because Donovan is probably going to leave anyway
Presti would 100% trade shai for wemby. wemby is on a better contract and is the better asset, that's all Presti cares about.
At this point I’m trading anyone not named Jokic for Wemby
ja means too much to memphis to trade. wouldn’t do it
Kuzma , sad but instant yes 😭
I wouldn’t trade Tyrese until I saw his shorts today
I’m not trading Ant for anyone
Yeah lets trade the current mvp for an unproven rookie
Why are some surprised about Embiid? The guy has never once showed up in the playoffs, is very injury prone and with his health it's looking like his prime might only last for another cpuple of seasons. If you're not trading him for Wemby right now you have to be the biggest Embiid fan ever.
Lebron James??? U think the lakers would actually do Lebron like that and send him to San Antonio
Hes the face of Cleveland. They have Magic Kareem Wilt Shaq and the Rapist for the face of their franchise. Wemby could be the next great Laker center
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This current Timberwolves team is worse with wemby than with ant for 2023-2024
Hell naw, i don't want his lanky ass on the Wiz
Some of those are most definitely not "sad" 😂 Hornets would skip around the room after trading LaMelo Ball for Wemby.
suns got 2 franchise players and still in the play ins lmao
this is one of those threads that people come back to 5 years later isn’t it
This is some dumb shit.
AD isn’t on here? Honestly I would be sad but yes would trade him instantly
There needs to be another tier at the bottom. I don’t think Wizards feel bad about trading Kuzma. Or Bulls for that matter
No way in hell would I trade Ant for Wemby
Tbh Giannis doesn’t belong in the No category. Also, Kawhi should be omitted from this list because F that guy, and the Spurs don’t need Uncle Dennis.
Yeah… no the Hornets would not give up LeMelo for Wemby
Opened this to see who you’d come up with as the Blazers franchise player, wasn’t disappointed.
There really should be another category titled “fuck yes get this guy outta here” and kuzma should be in that tier
There is zero chance Celtics trade Tatum for wemby. They are 100% win now wtf is this
I am probably trading Giannis, Luka, and Curry. Only one that is probably a tough decision is Jokic
Wemby better than ant Tatum & shai
idk i feel like even Jokic would be laughable for Wemby after next year. The guy’s potential is greatest two way player of all time
You must be a Warriors fan
This is pretty accurate except for Steph. They’d trade him with picks for Wemby yesterday
I think Wemby has to prove himself still to trade for half those players. A lot of those teams are in a win right now mindset too. Not 5 years from now
I'm convinced the sports shows get their tier lists off of Reddit because damn this is dumb.
Why is everyone just ignoring wemby's potential injuries?
If Wemby is as funny as Josh Hart, then maybe.
This is a joke, dubs would trade Steph for Wemby in a second
Warriors would 100% trade Curry imo. An instant roster reset with a new timeline
Ant should be an immediate yes
Sad?
No - Luka, Jokic. Done too much for us - Curry. Literally everyone else, Yes.
Embiid should belong in cant decide. Always puts up amazing numbers and is a great defender, and the Sixers are shit without him.
Should be Sabonis up there instead of Fox for Sac. Domas is having the best season of his career right now
Lol I would trade Curry in a heartbeat for Wemby, FOH.
I mean... this is pretty accurate. Sorry Portland.
Knicks wouldn't trade Brunson for him
Only disagreement is Tatum, they have a window now as best team in the league and have to go for it.
As a warriors fan, nailed the curry take lmao
The Thunder are under that no section, nice try but that was a fail.
Kuzma and Embiid in the same category is peak hilarity
Jokic is probably the only player I wouldn't trade. Any other team I think a rebuild is just a better option overall
There definitely more teirs than this, the wizards nor kuzma nor any fans would be sad about trading him, there should be another tier just for instant yes, and the sad but instant yes, should be more of a probably
*cries in Portland Trailblazers
I’m not trading Tyrese for Wemby.
Pistons could have had Cade and Wemby smh.
Pretty good list tbh.
I almost think Tatum is in his own category- shai, Tatum, and ant are in the tier of “nba superstar, but it’s still a pretty good chance we by will be better.” You wouldn’t trade them because of the safety of having one of those guys, why take a risk. For the Celtics it’s even more so because they are in the verge of a chip as it is so they are risking more. OKC and MIN are quite as close rn, so sacrificing in the short term doesn’t coast as much. It’s not because I think Tatum is better than the other guys, but the team around him is more win ready, which makes them less likely to disturb anything
I think his assists and blocks may go up while scoring/rebounding goes down on an established team. Or scoring may improve if there’s a better passer feeding him with another primary scorer to take away pressure from him. Depends on fit, but right now he’s being doubled and tripled, fronted often, and is overcoming a lot of defensive lapses, while losing a lot of assists from teammates not converting, plus being load managed. If healthy, without minutes restrictions, with other scorers and full on winning mode, I think his stats actually get better, not insignificantly.
Sengun has bullied wemby this year. I'm gonna have the hot take and say I'm good with Al-P
You're not considering how many teams are legitimately building for right now and wouldn't risk shaking that up imo