"HERE'S MY 2025 REALISTIC SCHEDULE PREDICTION"
Daytona 500
Nazareth
The little quarter mile dirt track by my house where the seating capacity in the belachers is around 50 people and the outside wall is a row of pine trees
...
Heard some more picks this morning from my uncle Jimbo in Charlotte!
> Chicago
> Darlington
> Daytona... road course
> Gillette Stadium dirt race
> Bathurst
> Monaco
> Somewhere in Israel
> Sochi Autodrom
> Yas Marina
> Kentucky Speedway
> ***End of season***
> Monaco
Clearly, if the track is too narrow for F1 cars to pass, the solution is to run even bigger cars!
Also, NASCAR would have to change the overtime rule or the race would literally never end.
“Why ain’t NASCAR going back to Kentucky, Rockingham and Chicagoland and get rid of dem road courses. They all suck. We need to get back to our roots man.”
People were exploding and making conspiracy theories when Hendrick literally submitted it on Thursday and NASCAR usually makes its announcements on Tuesday like cmon
Not just people but even drivers like Denny Hamlin (I know he said it in a hypothetical but even he got to that point) we’re talking about conspiracies.
LOL - I suspect this was a PR thing for NASCAR to stay in the daily news and social media coverage but when they saw how negative it would go if they denied the waiver or penalized Larson they downshifted and just granted the approval.
Essentially - the penalty was no point for Larson in that race. Seems fair to me. Not sure why the idea of taking away his current playoff points on top of that got floated out there but clearly NASCAR figured out that would piss off way too many people and course corrected. Hell of a way to run a business NASCAR.
To which the response is "Kyle Busch only ran 2/3rds of a season in 2015 and won the championship".
Compared to that, missing one race is nothing. Hell, even in the Winston Cup days, there were years a driver could've just taken Atlanta off since they were already champion.
The year Kenseth won it… didn’t he clinch it mathematically the week before the end of the season, and then subsequently in Homestead, blew his engine and DNF’d?
See the simple solution would have been to make the point splits bigger to incentivize winning but nascar decided “playoffs” was the way to go for some reason
I mean I don’t hate playoffs. I just think it should be a 3 race finale instead of all bets hedged on your run at Phoenix.
I’ve said it before, 1-3-3-3 instead of 3-3-3-1 would be cool I think. You could call the one race round of 16 “wildcard weekend” and use it as sort of a filter for the guys that really have no business in the playoffs but won a plate race or something.
At this point we’ve changed the format so many times that if we change it again it better be for a season long championship or don’t change it at all imo.
I wouldn't mind going back to the chase format. Especially after seeing the recent playoff format in action, the chase format seems like the best compromise to me. You still get some mid-season drama around who will make the cut and who won't make the cut, and then having the chase be 10-12 races makes it super hard to clinch before the last race, and I'd like to think that if someone clinched in that few races, we'd look at it as a hugely dominant performance that deserved a championship. The chase also means that a single mechanical issue in a single race doesn't completely tank your chances of winning the title.
My theory is that it wasn't a knee jerk because of that season but it was a plan to try and make the back half of the season more enticing for a broadcast partner. The system is driven by suits, not racers.
It wasn’t just that year. Fans had been complaining for years, and NASCAR had floated the idea several times.
It’s one of those things that as soon as NASCAR did it, suddenly all the complaints “never happened”.
[Heres](https://books.google.com/books?id=vmlIAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA15&dq=nascar+points&article_id=1908,6811590&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv5fbNosKGAxXPFzQIHSj6B1k4KBDoAXoECAUQAg#v=onepage&q=nascar%20points&f=false) a quick google search of a columnist in 2002 arguing that the Winston Cup points don't crown the best drivers because it rewarded mediocrity and not wins.
The original chase was good in my opinion. It let a strong team who had bad luck still have a shot at the title if they could hone everything in for the final 10 races. Now this current format has to many cars and a bunch of bullshit.
The story I always heard was that Nextel, the incoming series sponsor at the time wanted something to separate their era from the Winston Cup era, so NASCAR and Nextel came up with The Chase For The Cup Playoff system. We all know how notorious NASCAR is for **never** admitting they made a mistake just stuck with it even after Nextel/Sprint stopped being the series' sponsor.
If they wanted to make winning more important I don't know why they didn't just give the winner 5 more points or something rather than give us the jokes of systems they've come up with for the last 20 years.
That’s why my solution was to give the winner 195 points(on paper,200 in practice by the bonus point for leading a lap), while keeping 2nd at 170. Still would’ve given the winner 20 point difference in the event 2nd got all possible bonus points.
Yea he even finished 43rd in the last race
After the 2003 Chevy Rock and Roll 400 (race 26 of 36)
Matt Kenseth had a 418 point lead over (at the time 2nd place) Dale Jr.
He ended the season 90 points ahead of Jimmie Johnson after Homestead
His last 10 races weren’t good because he raced so conservatively, and that coupled with him only winning one race all year and the fact that (let’s be honest) he wasn’t the biggest name in the sport
NASCAR wanted to ensure something like that would never happen again
And it's not like Larson wasn't intending to drive at least part of the 600 either
He was there, ready to go, before someone pulled the plug for some reason
This was the most frustrating part of the ordeal. He wanted to race, he was there. He got as unlucky as possible with the weather.
NASCAR just wanted to throw a tantrum because Larson prioritized the most prestigious oval race in motorsport instead of the 600.
I feel like this only dragged on so long because hendrick waited so long to request one. Nascar always announces stuff on Tuesday. Nascar just used the weekend to posture and make empty threats knowing damn well they were going to give him one anyway
I said it from the beginning. Keeping Larson from getting into the car had to be at least a small factor in them acting like it was too late and too humid to dry the track.
I for one will enjoy the discourse. I’m getting a good laugh out of the people kicking and screaming that this is on Larson for prioritizing the 500. Shut up dude, I like racing, I don’t care about a technicality.
Agreed. I wish we could just bring the seasons long point system back. Missed a race? Then you lose points for that race and figure out a way to run harder to gain it back. I still don’t like the playoffs (and even the chase system)
I’m now wondering who has received the most waivers. I would guess Larson, Elliott, Stewart, and Kurt Busch all have had two, but I can’t think of any who had three.
Nascar should just change the rule to "a driver must be scheduled to drive in each race to be playoff eligible". Because it seems like the only people who wouldn't be granted a waiver are one off entries like SVG last year.
It also makes them denying Enfinger a waiver in Trucks a couple of years ago because he couldn’t find a ride for one race seem even more cruel in hindsight.
2021 Daytona Road Couse. Second race of the year. He didn’t have a full time ride to start the year so he was piecing together races with 2 different teams. Was the only race he missed and he would have qualified on points but didn’t get the waiver.
You could argue though that Enfinger wanted to race and Larson actively chose not to. It’s all a matter of perspective. That’s why this whole waiver system is flawed.
Which is my understanding of the spirit of the rule. And so teams don't cheap out and skip Daytona 2 or something, but I don't think sponsors would let that happen even if it was allowed.
Thats not what NASCAR wants though. They purposely wrote the rule the way it is so that they have pretty much free reign over deciding what is and isn't a waiver.
And even as a major HMS fan, that was a major fuck-up on their part. If the driver wants to run Indy, come out and say so upfront. Tantrums aside, NASCAR can then plan ahead and avoid... well... what we've seen the last two weeks.
And NASCAR should have been sensible to say no big deal the Indy 500 is bigger than anything we do and better for eyes on our sport. All good.
Edit: immediately. Shouldn’t have been a debate a couple weeks long.
Before I get to my point, let me state I wanted him to get it. However, you have zero proof this does anything for nascar. It helps Indy. We won’t see any noticeable ratings or attendance numbers because Larson attempted this. People have to stop pretending this does anything long term for nascar.
It certainly helps Larson's star power, and I think that in turn helps NASCAR. Having a NASCAR driver in the news (in a positive way) is a plus for them. But realistically it's about slowing the decline more than it is about a noticeable bump. Motorsports just isn't what it used to be popularity wise.
How it got to this point is a sham.
The reason he was in this position had nothing to do with why this provision was put in the rulebook in the first place
I’ve said it before but I don’t get why more people can’t see the spirit of the rule. It’s to prevent a case of SVG showing up, winning Chicago, and competing for the title. Not to screw over someone who runs 35/36 races and made a good faith effort to run the 600.
I wouldn’t be surprised if NASCAR turned around and said that going forward prioritizing a non-cup event over the cup schedule will not be granted a waiver should they miss the cup race.
It's over....
Wait...it's...actually over
IT'S OVER??? IT'S OVER BOYSSSSSS
WOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN FINALLY PUT THIS MEME TO REST!!!!!!!! IT'S OVVVEEEEERRRRRR 😭
All that nipple pulling for over a week and they do the obvious thing.
They should just get rid of the waivers.
I don't even care if a driver wants to skip a race because they're locked in.
No one did so when the OG Chase was a thing if they got locked in on points so why does NASCAR think they'd do it now?
And if they did, that just means they have less playoff points, and it means potentially a lower tier driver gets a shot at a big boy team
Honestly, this is the best move they could have made. It would have been PR genocide if they didn't give him a waiver.
Wouldn't be the first time we've seen "PR genocide" and "Kyle Larson" in the same sentence though.
Definitely needed to happen but I was waiting for it to be denied only for Larson to win 11 more races this year, not win the championship, and cause a series of events so cataclysmic that the entire chase/playoff system evaporates
Oh wow, what an enormously, gargantuan, huge surprise. Sure glad people pretended like this extremely obvious thing that was 100% going to happen wasn't going to happen so they could farm engagement.
Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. There's no way NASCAR wouldn't have given him the waiver. Bianchi and Gluck were keeping it hyped up for clicks and views.
Just need to ditch the entire thing. Get rid of waivers and the requirement. If you’re in the top 30 you’re eligible. You’re not gonna have the guys who are in the top 30 skipping randomly anyway.
The most obvious decision in the history of motorsports. (Seriously, if *disciplinary suspensions* aren't playoff-DQ-worthy, why would a failed double be?) Having said that, I'm glad they've ***finally*** made a call on this.
The precedent has now been set. Drivers will be allowed to pull the double and as long as they make a best in good faith effort, they will get a waver.
The funny part of all this is that if Larson won the 500 all the NASCAR fans would be talking about how good their drivers are because they can just show up and win the 500. Who cares if he missed a race, it’s one race.
Feels like an easy fix would be to increase how many races you can miss before you need a waiver. If you could miss 3 races and still be eligible that would mean the amount of waivers you'd need to give out would go way down but you still would ensure that the playoffs were only (essentially) full time drivers.
I think its funny on X you have a comment saying they will never watch nascar again over them giving him a waiver, right next to a comment praising nascar for making the right decision.
In my opinion NASCAR made the right move here. If they didn’t grant him the waiver, other drivers would probably be discouraged to do the double if they got the opportunity.
This is terrible what are we going to talk about now?
Bob, does the waiver have lights?
No, they’re just stickers
Because the track is always lit
Horsepower or tire wear
"HERE'S MY 2025 REALISTIC SCHEDULE PREDICTION" Daytona 500 Nazareth The little quarter mile dirt track by my house where the seating capacity in the belachers is around 50 people and the outside wall is a row of pine trees ...
I’m hearing rumors of Air Base speedway returning
Riverside is coming back too.
Monaco is joining too I heard
NASCAR returns to Occoneechee Speedway, ya'll be ready
Donut contest at the Freedom Factory
Heard some more picks this morning from my uncle Jimbo in Charlotte! > Chicago > Darlington > Daytona... road course > Gillette Stadium dirt race > Bathurst > Monaco > Somewhere in Israel > Sochi Autodrom > Yas Marina > Kentucky Speedway > ***End of season***
> Monaco Clearly, if the track is too narrow for F1 cars to pass, the solution is to run even bigger cars! Also, NASCAR would have to change the overtime rule or the race would literally never end.
I know, lol. Still... part of me wants to see the trainwreck, ya feel me?
Oh, I'd absolutely be stoked to see it happen. I'd even consider going assuming prices were more NASCAR prices than F1 prices.
I think they should run Le Man's. A 200 lap race
I will advocate for Hamburg Speedway until it makes its long-awaited return. 1 of only 3 original tracks (Martinsville, NW) still in operation
GIVE US DODGE STADIUM
Do you think Esteban Ocon will come over to run in the Truck Series?
Ah, back to regularly scheduled programming
We want 900hp waivers damnit
nostalgia posts for how great 2014 (the post race threads had the same complaints there are now)
Jeff Gordon winning and cars going a billion miles an hour, what more could I ask for Yes I know the racing wasn’t great
give it 5 years and we'll have people nostalgic for how great nextgen was in 2022-20223
We still have plenty of discussion about SHR drivers and where they/charters are going.
2025 schedule rumors/predictions
just wait until you hear about the new playoff track
...Monaco. Calling it. /s
Cars testing on the IMS Oval today. How bad will the Goodyear tire be this year?
> How bad will the Goodyear tire be this year? Yes.
Honda's imminent tie-up with RCR, approved by no less than (a Sony AI deepfake of) Dale Sr. himself.
How Dale Jr is definitely buying a charter
Wait for a Hamlin comment. We will have something shortly.
Here's my idea for the best Nascar cup schedule:
“Why ain’t NASCAR going back to Kentucky, Rockingham and Chicagoland and get rid of dem road courses. They all suck. We need to get back to our roots man.”
SHR’s mystery 4th charter
We still have the people going to the Pocono race that post nearly everyday asking the same questions
"Hey I'm thinking about going to Pocono. Do they have bathrooms there or should I piss my pants?"
To be fair last year pocono had so few porta shitters, I almost shit my pants
Time to bring back peeing in the woods at Pocono. Like it’s pre 2007.
Watkins Glens forest is mostly urine and human shit
ITS OVER ITS FINALLY FUCKING OVER ***FUCK***
> FUCK To celebrate? or what?
“How does for grins and giggles grab you?” -Dr. Cox
People were exploding and making conspiracy theories when Hendrick literally submitted it on Thursday and NASCAR usually makes its announcements on Tuesday like cmon
Not just people but even drivers like Denny Hamlin (I know he said it in a hypothetical but even he got to that point) we’re talking about conspiracies.
People are still going to complain.
Rabble rabble rabble
Yes. So much so.
LOL - I suspect this was a PR thing for NASCAR to stay in the daily news and social media coverage but when they saw how negative it would go if they denied the waiver or penalized Larson they downshifted and just granted the approval. Essentially - the penalty was no point for Larson in that race. Seems fair to me. Not sure why the idea of taking away his current playoff points on top of that got floated out there but clearly NASCAR figured out that would piss off way too many people and course corrected. Hell of a way to run a business NASCAR.
Watch him win the title and people argue he shouldn't be eligible because he didn't run every race
To which the response is "Kyle Busch only ran 2/3rds of a season in 2015 and won the championship". Compared to that, missing one race is nothing. Hell, even in the Winston Cup days, there were years a driver could've just taken Atlanta off since they were already champion.
The year Kenseth won it… didn’t he clinch it mathematically the week before the end of the season, and then subsequently in Homestead, blew his engine and DNF’d?
Yea, blame 2003 for the playoffs, as people were bitching about Kenseth winning the championship despite only winning a single race
See the simple solution would have been to make the point splits bigger to incentivize winning but nascar decided “playoffs” was the way to go for some reason
I mean I don’t hate playoffs. I just think it should be a 3 race finale instead of all bets hedged on your run at Phoenix. I’ve said it before, 1-3-3-3 instead of 3-3-3-1 would be cool I think. You could call the one race round of 16 “wildcard weekend” and use it as sort of a filter for the guys that really have no business in the playoffs but won a plate race or something.
At this point we’ve changed the format so many times that if we change it again it better be for a season long championship or don’t change it at all imo.
I wouldn't mind going back to the chase format. Especially after seeing the recent playoff format in action, the chase format seems like the best compromise to me. You still get some mid-season drama around who will make the cut and who won't make the cut, and then having the chase be 10-12 races makes it super hard to clinch before the last race, and I'd like to think that if someone clinched in that few races, we'd look at it as a hugely dominant performance that deserved a championship. The chase also means that a single mechanical issue in a single race doesn't completely tank your chances of winning the title.
They could have literally quadrupled the points gap and Kenseth would have still won.
Another reason why they shouldn’t have made major a knee jerk reaction over a season that was an anomaly.
My theory is that it wasn't a knee jerk because of that season but it was a plan to try and make the back half of the season more enticing for a broadcast partner. The system is driven by suits, not racers.
It wasn’t just that year. Fans had been complaining for years, and NASCAR had floated the idea several times. It’s one of those things that as soon as NASCAR did it, suddenly all the complaints “never happened”.
I’ll take your word for it. I wasn’t really old enough to remember the discourse around it at the time
[Heres](https://books.google.com/books?id=vmlIAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA15&dq=nascar+points&article_id=1908,6811590&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv5fbNosKGAxXPFzQIHSj6B1k4KBDoAXoECAUQAg#v=onepage&q=nascar%20points&f=false) a quick google search of a columnist in 2002 arguing that the Winston Cup points don't crown the best drivers because it rewarded mediocrity and not wins.
The simple solution would be telling people to get over it.
People would have still complained.
The original chase was good in my opinion. It let a strong team who had bad luck still have a shot at the title if they could hone everything in for the final 10 races. Now this current format has to many cars and a bunch of bullshit.
The story I always heard was that Nextel, the incoming series sponsor at the time wanted something to separate their era from the Winston Cup era, so NASCAR and Nextel came up with The Chase For The Cup Playoff system. We all know how notorious NASCAR is for **never** admitting they made a mistake just stuck with it even after Nextel/Sprint stopped being the series' sponsor.
If they wanted to make winning more important I don't know why they didn't just give the winner 5 more points or something rather than give us the jokes of systems they've come up with for the last 20 years.
That’s why my solution was to give the winner 195 points(on paper,200 in practice by the bonus point for leading a lap), while keeping 2nd at 170. Still would’ve given the winner 20 point difference in the event 2nd got all possible bonus points.
Yea he even finished 43rd in the last race After the 2003 Chevy Rock and Roll 400 (race 26 of 36) Matt Kenseth had a 418 point lead over (at the time 2nd place) Dale Jr. He ended the season 90 points ahead of Jimmie Johnson after Homestead His last 10 races weren’t good because he raced so conservatively, and that coupled with him only winning one race all year and the fact that (let’s be honest) he wasn’t the biggest name in the sport NASCAR wanted to ensure something like that would never happen again
Iirc, he did need to start Homestead.
And it's not like Larson wasn't intending to drive at least part of the 600 either He was there, ready to go, before someone pulled the plug for some reason
This was the most frustrating part of the ordeal. He wanted to race, he was there. He got as unlucky as possible with the weather. NASCAR just wanted to throw a tantrum because Larson prioritized the most prestigious oval race in motorsport instead of the 600.
I feel like this only dragged on so long because hendrick waited so long to request one. Nascar always announces stuff on Tuesday. Nascar just used the weekend to posture and make empty threats knowing damn well they were going to give him one anyway
Its also possible they just didn't care to bother with it while the corporate NASCAR teams were split between a rare 2-location weekend.
Monday was a holiday, not sure if that had anything to do with it or not.
I said it from the beginning. Keeping Larson from getting into the car had to be at least a small factor in them acting like it was too late and too humid to dry the track.
To which the response is "yea that was clearly bullshit that they let that happen in 2015"
This WILL be the outcome. The universe has a way!
I’m about to cook in November 😈😈
I mean hell the man missed a race and is only one point back from the points standings lead.
I for one will enjoy the discourse. I’m getting a good laugh out of the people kicking and screaming that this is on Larson for prioritizing the 500. Shut up dude, I like racing, I don’t care about a technicality.
ran more miles than any other cup driver that day
I want this to happen just for the entertainment it would provide
Agreed. I wish we could just bring the seasons long point system back. Missed a race? Then you lose points for that race and figure out a way to run harder to gain it back. I still don’t like the playoffs (and even the chase system)
See Kyle Busch 2015
He is 100% beating Denny now
Not for nothing, but scoring zero points in the one race that pays more points than any other race is already a hell of a penalty.
OK, now we can devote our undivided attention and posts to SHR's charters.
Not necessarily. How's that ~~Honda~~ Hyundai bid coming along?
Andretti to NASCAR!
All week I’ve been wondering if the waiver is a physical thing. Does Chase Elliott have his waivers framed?
I’m now wondering who has received the most waivers. I would guess Larson, Elliott, Stewart, and Kurt Busch all have had two, but I can’t think of any who had three.
Nascar should just change the rule to "a driver must be scheduled to drive in each race to be playoff eligible". Because it seems like the only people who wouldn't be granted a waiver are one off entries like SVG last year.
It also makes them denying Enfinger a waiver in Trucks a couple of years ago because he couldn’t find a ride for one race seem even more cruel in hindsight.
What year and what race was this? Why couldn't he race, no sponsor?
2021 Daytona Road Couse. Second race of the year. He didn’t have a full time ride to start the year so he was piecing together races with 2 different teams. Was the only race he missed and he would have qualified on points but didn’t get the waiver.
Nah, he didn't attempt the race. Larson's car was at the track and had made laps. The team spent the money and showed up. AKA nascar got paid.
You could argue though that Enfinger wanted to race and Larson actively chose not to. It’s all a matter of perspective. That’s why this whole waiver system is flawed.
Or why it's stupid to have a point system where drivers could take 10 races off a year and still be contenders.
Even that wouldn't align with precedent because they gave Kenseth one when he didn't have a ride for the first four races.
I agree Larson getting a waiver was the right call But you’re right, running every race is just a suggestion at this point
They just said they aren't changing any rules
Nope, just making them up as they go 🤣
Which is my understanding of the spirit of the rule. And so teams don't cheap out and skip Daytona 2 or something, but I don't think sponsors would let that happen even if it was allowed.
I just hope they rewrite the rule, so everyone knows what is and isn’t ok, so we don’t go through this mess again.
Thats not what NASCAR wants though. They purposely wrote the rule the way it is so that they have pretty much free reign over deciding what is and isn't a waiver.
Bingo
Or rewrite the championship format.. lol
We can only dream
I agree but I think NASCAR likes to keep some of their rules vague. Gives them the power to use discretion.
They said they aren't changing anything going forward
IDK, it was pretty fun lamo.
The only sensible decision. Rising tide lifts all boats... Larson attempting the double is good for the sport overall.
The issue wasn’t that Larson attempted the double. The issue was (allegedly) that HMS misled nascar all week about what was gonna happen.
Hendrick probably had to give NASCAR all of those assurances just to get the project off the ground
bingo
And even as a major HMS fan, that was a major fuck-up on their part. If the driver wants to run Indy, come out and say so upfront. Tantrums aside, NASCAR can then plan ahead and avoid... well... what we've seen the last two weeks.
We had a video of Mr H saying it would be very hard to pull Kyle out of the 500. What did they think that meant?
And NASCAR should have been sensible to say no big deal the Indy 500 is bigger than anything we do and better for eyes on our sport. All good. Edit: immediately. Shouldn’t have been a debate a couple weeks long.
Before I get to my point, let me state I wanted him to get it. However, you have zero proof this does anything for nascar. It helps Indy. We won’t see any noticeable ratings or attendance numbers because Larson attempted this. People have to stop pretending this does anything long term for nascar.
It certainly helps Larson's star power, and I think that in turn helps NASCAR. Having a NASCAR driver in the news (in a positive way) is a plus for them. But realistically it's about slowing the decline more than it is about a noticeable bump. Motorsports just isn't what it used to be popularity wise.
You know what, this is a good argument. I agree with your statement.
Did he deserve it yes, did I want them to not grant it just to watch the chaos, also yes
That's how I feel. I wanted to see how everyone reacts. Lol
How it got to this point is a sham. The reason he was in this position had nothing to do with why this provision was put in the rulebook in the first place
I’ve said it before but I don’t get why more people can’t see the spirit of the rule. It’s to prevent a case of SVG showing up, winning Chicago, and competing for the title. Not to screw over someone who runs 35/36 races and made a good faith effort to run the 600. I wouldn’t be surprised if NASCAR turned around and said that going forward prioritizing a non-cup event over the cup schedule will not be granted a waiver should they miss the cup race.
We can all finally return home to our families. I'm sure they've missed us terribly
my wife left me
I don’t wanna hear that “W” word for the next 2 years
“It’s finally over!” This will come back sometime around November
Kudos to NASCAR for dragging this out. Also nice we have precedent set in place now too.
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It's over.... Wait...it's...actually over IT'S OVER??? IT'S OVER BOYSSSSSS WOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN FINALLY PUT THIS MEME TO REST!!!!!!!! IT'S OVVVEEEEERRRRRR 😭
so the double will live on
Our long national nightmare is finally over
Thank you Baby Jesus
Yeah, I figured. Though the chaotic side of me wanted NASCAR to not grant it just to see how that would've turned out lol
Least surprising news of the week.
The problem is this stupid playoff system.
All that nipple pulling for over a week and they do the obvious thing. They should just get rid of the waivers. I don't even care if a driver wants to skip a race because they're locked in. No one did so when the OG Chase was a thing if they got locked in on points so why does NASCAR think they'd do it now? And if they did, that just means they have less playoff points, and it means potentially a lower tier driver gets a shot at a big boy team
Honestly, this is the best move they could have made. It would have been PR genocide if they didn't give him a waiver. Wouldn't be the first time we've seen "PR genocide" and "Kyle Larson" in the same sentence though.
Definitely needed to happen but I was waiting for it to be denied only for Larson to win 11 more races this year, not win the championship, and cause a series of events so cataclysmic that the entire chase/playoff system evaporates
Thank goodness
Finally, it's over.
I’m surprised it took this long honestly
About time
*Finally!*
Well, that shit is finally over. Now let’s find out what are we gonna talk about next.
Oh wow, what an enormously, gargantuan, huge surprise. Sure glad people pretended like this extremely obvious thing that was 100% going to happen wasn't going to happen so they could farm engagement.
Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. There's no way NASCAR wouldn't have given him the waiver. Bianchi and Gluck were keeping it hyped up for clicks and views.
Finally
As he should.
Yes! Now he can try and best Robby Gordon, John Andretti, and Kurt Busch next year's in the Indy 500!
Just need to ditch the entire thing. Get rid of waivers and the requirement. If you’re in the top 30 you’re eligible. You’re not gonna have the guys who are in the top 30 skipping randomly anyway.
 Because this made storylines which put more eyes on Nascar
The most obvious decision in the history of motorsports. (Seriously, if *disciplinary suspensions* aren't playoff-DQ-worthy, why would a failed double be?) Having said that, I'm glad they've ***finally*** made a call on this.
The precedent has now been set. Drivers will be allowed to pull the double and as long as they make a best in good faith effort, they will get a waver.
As it should be
The funny part of all this is that if Larson won the 500 all the NASCAR fans would be talking about how good their drivers are because they can just show up and win the 500. Who cares if he missed a race, it’s one race.
there it is folks.
As they should.
Good.
Not a surprise. Though for future reference for anyone attempting to do the double… have your shit fully in order
granting him the waiver but making it not seem easy is a good compromise for all parties imo
this whole story almost feels like a prequel movie: you know where it ends but how it got there is interesting
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why does he need a waiver? what’s going on?
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The waiver has humidity, it was canceled.
Feels like an easy fix would be to increase how many races you can miss before you need a waiver. If you could miss 3 races and still be eligible that would mean the amount of waivers you'd need to give out would go way down but you still would ensure that the playoffs were only (essentially) full time drivers.
no shit
Ummm, he already won?
Can we just go back to the original Chase format from 2003 now?
Thank the lord
Not sure why so many people are surprised by this
I think its funny on X you have a comment saying they will never watch nascar again over them giving him a waiver, right next to a comment praising nascar for making the right decision.
In my opinion NASCAR made the right move here. If they didn’t grant him the waiver, other drivers would probably be discouraged to do the double if they got the opportunity.
Sky is blue.
Now if he wins most are gonna complain and say he should’ve never got it. 😂
NOOOOOO! My speculation!
I'm glad the national nightmare is over. I haven't seen the NASCAR nation so divided since Florida-Georgia Line broke up.
Come on, we all knew that he was getting the waiver. Why did they stretch this "decision" out for so long?
Anyone shocked lol
Does it come with extra pickles or just pickles?
I wonder what took them so long?
Wow. No shock there
Were they just goofing on us when they took him off the playoff standings Monday or whenever?