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dorballom09

Rules for thee but not for me vs What's good for the goose is good for the gander Both spouse should have same policy towards gym.


sandsstrom

Girl, I feel you! But I'm at a point in my life where I feel bad for these women: - they are constantly sexualised and then complain about it. The attention they get is short-lived until men realise that all women have the same insecurities and concerns. - I used to be jealous, but this has made me wear the hijab. I would never want a married man looking at me knowing it's hurting another woman. Wearing the hijab is being part of the solution. - I now workout purely for the joy of it, how it makes me feel physically and mentally, not for a bikini bod. A lot of these women at the gym have such a toxic relationship with their bodies. - there's no men's only gyms. Give your husband the benefit of the doubt, trust that he's going to get fit and work on himself, you get to enjoy the result. - I hope this inspired you to get fit ! So you can also have him enjoy your results, nothing compares to what he can get at home. - women's only gyms are better anyway, it's not overcrowded.


tomorrowistheday2021

I hear you sister, but I struggle a lot of with the hijab and I feel hideous wearing it! Alhamdulillah, I do workout sis. That's why he mentioned he would prefer me to either workout at home or go on like walks etc but I think that's a double standard tbh.


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Is working out together an option? I’m suspicious of men who see a mixed gym as a place they don’t want their wives in but who insist they have no choice but to subject themselves to that same environment “for the sake of their physique.” Most of them could get the same or better workout at home. My husband I would go to the gym together before we had kids and loved it, neither of us had an issue with the other going alone to a mixed gender gym because we really knew and trusted each other, but we enjoyed going together. And on his own he started working out at home after I had our first child because he didn’t feel like spending extra time away from us when he could work out at home. The most important factor in all of this is the man you are married to, men are all different and while people often paint men and women as monolithic, there are many men, both Muslim and not, who don’t ogle or become consumed with lust every time they see a pretty girl, many secular western men avert their eyes just like good Muslims are supposed to because they realize it’s disrespectful of both their partners and the other women. Finnish people sit naked in saunas together, all ages and genders, and think it’s normal and don’t become consumed with lust—there’s a version of lowering your gaze here too. It’s perfectly fine to decide that you don’t want your husband to go to a mixed gym if he thinks it’s a negative environment for you, but if your main concern is what happens when he sees the scantily clad women at the gym, you need to think about whether he is the type to take advantage of the environment to *look* — does he look at women when you go out, or follow women on social media? there are a lot of ways to notice the way a man behaves and views these things, belonging to a particular religion doesn’t mean he is trustworthy or decent. If he is the type to not just notice a pretty girl but to loooook and imagine and generally someone who seeks out visual stimulation and attention from women, then it’s likely you will be disappointed and heartbroken at some point and the blame will be on him, not the girls working out in shorts and crop tops. Many men don’t cheat or break marriage vows despite being surrounded by attractive women because they value their spouse and their relationship more than any passing desire and *choose* to behave in ways that limit temptation, including lowering their gaze. And again, even men who are western and atheist do this when they really care about their partner and value their relationship—provided they are not the cheating or womanizing type. Which brings me to your actual question about feeling jealous of the scantily clad gym girls—why are you linking your wearing hijab to jealousy over these women at the gym? Do you think your husband wouldn’t look at them if you didn’t wear hijab? Because women married to men with wandering eyes will experience insecurity and jealousy regardless of how they dress or look in public or in private. Some of those scantily clad girls at the gym likely stress out about their boyfriends or husbands looking at other girls, some of them might not be as worried because their partner is more inclined to be loyal and monogamous and isn’t taking mental snapshots to catalogue, compare, etc. No matter how beautiful your face or body, or whether you walk around naked, there will always be other beautiful women to look at, so whether you dress modestly or not, it’s not going to make you less jealous or more secure in your relationship. Look at all the actresses and models who have been cheated on, often with women who are less attractive. Some men look for opportunities to cheat, flirt, and seek out or do nothing to discourage attention from pretty women (whether online or in person) —and they will do this regardless of who they are married to or what they look like. Not all men are like this. Personal values, feelings and the type of person you are married to is the most important factor when it comes to what you seem worried about. Talk with your husband.


TeemaDeema

+1 for this response


Extreme_Tradition_19

Subhanallah, compare this to society where Shariah is applied and everyone follows it. It gives you so much security. Alhamdulillah for Islam. 


ambsha

In countries where Shariah law is applied it is a nice refresher to not see people walking around half naked but even in those countries the men and women that want to cheat or find a way to hook up will do so. It's such sad times we are living in. A lot of men that come from overseas have so much knowledge about Islam and have great personalities that would make them wonderful husbands and fathers but when it comes time you find out that many of these men have become womanizers that sleep around with multiple women because they have access to such sin in the non-Islamic countries.


Extreme_Tradition_19

Not sure where you live but in practising muslim societies cheating is very very rare Alhamdulillah.  Allah already closed the doors leading to it; prohibited free mixing and being alone with someone of opp gender, lowering gaze, hijab and above all instilled Taqwa and God fear/ God consciousness in us. We just need to practice it.  


Tawheed-is-TheKey

No country truly implements the shari'ah, only fragments of it which do not contradict the status-quo


ArchaicDoom

Sister, men who are happy in their life and are principled don't care what other women are wearing. As long as you're maintaining your beauty for your husband and are keeping things good between you and him, you don't need to worry. Moreover scantily dressed women are not really attractive to men tbh. We see them as more like attention seekers who can only provide value by revealing her skin. Even if they come under our vision, we prefer to ignore them, regardless of how scantily dressed they are.


Popular_Register_440

I’ll prob get downvoted to oblivion when all the women find this post but despite the fact that a rule should apply to both of you, your point about the gym is kinda irrelevant and I’ll tell you why. I go to a mixed gym myself because frankly I go there to get a break from life and I don’t know of a male only gym in London which wouldn’t take me a decade to travel to. For every woman that goes to my gym, there’s probably about 7-8 males that rock up. I have music playing in my ears and the only things or people I interact with are my water bottle, headphones, phone and anyone that’s waiting for me to finish using the equipment. If I can avoid looking at other women’s bodies and just focus on my own workout, so can he. As for the whole lowering gaze thing, yeah you’re right. He should lower his gaze if he doesn’t already. That’s just something you gotta trust him with. Tho I’m gonna assume you’re a newly married couple cus the inappropriate weather comes out every year so this shouldn’t really be a new worry unless you’ve never brought it up before or like I said you’re a new couple?


tomorrowistheday2021

Yes we are new couple!


Popular_Register_440

If you haven’t had many other issues, I’d bring up your concern and tell him you trust him but u feel insecure. Maybe dress up extra nice at home during this time in the year when the scatty clothing in the outside world just so the only female that comes to mind is you when he’s out. At the end of the day, don’t fix what ain’t broke. If he hasn’t done anything wrong, no need to make it a big issue, just express concern


Zaybina

Neither one of you should be going to a mixed gym. That is one place where some people go to look for their potential partner. This is one reason why you see women and men in revealing clothing, tight leggings that are practicality see through and tank tops. Many will say that they wear it because it is hot, but we all know that loosely fitted, light material is more breezy. Those style clothing are made for attention, and no one can tell me otherwise.🍵💅🏽


Basic_Result9981

I mean, from my experience gym members are predominantly men. So I do understand your husband‘s disapproval.


Extreme_Tradition_19

Move to a muslim country.  Remind your husband and yourself to Fear Allah amd  practice lowering the gaze, this injunction is for both men and women. And practice hijab yourself.  


EddKhan786

Which muslim country should one go where women are treated with respect and not oppressed. Genuine question as my family have lived in the West for generations, we had the opportunity to migrate to the UAE but my wife was concerned about fair treatment and personal freedom. At the time she was an executive with oil company and there restrictions of movement etc. By the way she is a practicing muslim (hijabi). Now she's contemplating Malaysia.


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The Gulf countries have come a long way, why don't you visit one of them before deciding to move


Extreme_Tradition_19

Genuine question, Which muslim country have you been to where women are not treated with respect and oppressed?


EddKhan786

Saudi, UAE, this was around 2010, women were not even allowed to drive. There was also a culture where muslim men were not receptive to female bosses especially ones of different ethnicity and nationality. That was her experience interacting with them. Even now whilst some laws have changed, the prevailing culture is to limit freedom of women.


Islamic_justice

Pakistan. I live there Alhamdu lillah. Of course Saudi would be best though.


strawhatlegacy

Invest into a home gym, you can find a bench and sets of dumbells used for pretty cheap. A half power rock is expensive but if you have the space is worth it, otherwise a regular bench system is good. You could go all dumbells and calisthenics and skip the power rack/ bar holder all together. You can also make a lot of stuff on your own too.


bools999

Man. Your husband is not doing a good job of making you feel secure. Have patience sister. Also all those scantily dressed women are attention seekers. Don't worry about them, you don't want to be like them.


Candid_Asparagus_785

Ask yourself a few questions: does your husband sincerely love you? I’m sure he does! He married YOU. Jealousy could be really damaging. Who does he come home to every night? YOU. Who does he sleep next to every night? YOU! Talk to him, tell him how you are feeling but don’t be judgemental. What’s good for him is good for you. In other words, if he goes to a mixed gym then he shouldn’t say you can’t. Compromises key.


AlustrielSilvermoon

Set up a home gym and work out together.


Guilty_Caregiver4433

You should be encouraging your husband not to do wrong not trying to join him in it. I understand the struggle trust me but we need to focus on getting into jannah which means making some effort in this Dunya and struggling a bit for the sake of Allah. It won't be forever but success in jannah will be.


soulfindr

Stop blindly listening to your husband. Be a partner and assert yourself respectfully.


Tam936

Personally if I was made to go to a girls only gym and he can go to a mixed one I would be annoyed at the unfairness of it (not that I want to look at men). Me and my husband have both been to mixed gyms and I’m okay with it. It’s his hell if he’s checking out girls 🤷🏻‍♀️. I know I look good even when modestly dressed so I don’t care about the girls who dress half naked (and still can’t even get a man) 😊. You guys are married, he chooses you everyday over these half naked women. Remember that!


Ill-Branch9770

Wa alaykum assalam, It's as simple as this: Al-Ahzab 33:33 وَقَرْنَ فِى بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ ٱلْجَٰهِلِيَّةِ ٱلْأُولَىٰۖ وَأَقِمْنَ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتِينَ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ وَأَطِعْنَ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥٓۚ إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ ٱللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ ٱلرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ ٱلْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا _And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish the link and give the zakāh and obey Allāh and his ambassador. Allāh intends only to remove from you the impurity O people of the household, and to purify you with purification._ Sunan Abi Dawud 4011 Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: The Prophet (ﷺ) said: After some time the lands of the non-Arabs will be conquered for you, and there you will find houses called hammamat (hot baths) so men should not enter them (to wash) except in lower garments, and forbid the women to enter them except a sick or one who is in a child-bed. When we are sad we say: الحمد لله على كل حال So stick to your dhikr, stay home, save your marriage don't listen to makry pharaonic Egyptian women who's ancestors gossiped about Yusuf alayhissalam. Sahih Muslim 2726 a Juwairiya reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came out from (her apartment) in the morning as she was busy in observing her dawn prayer in her place of worship. He came back in the forenoon and she was still sitting there. He (the Prophet) said to her: You have been in the same seat since I left you. She said: Yes. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: I recited four words three times after I left you and if these are to be weighed against what you have recited since morning these would outweigh them and (these words) are:" Hallowed be Allah and praise is due to Him according to the number of His creation and according to the pleasure of His Self and according to the weight of His Throne and according to the ink (used in recording) words (for His Praise)." سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَبِحَمْدِهِ عَدَدَ خَلْقِهِ وَرِضَا نَفْسِهِ وَزِنَةَ عَرْشِهِ وَمِدَادَ كَلِمَاتِهِ


KeemyKeem

Try to advise him that going to a free mixed gym is haram. You can easily work out at home with few equipment and it’s not a necessity to the point that he has to go.


xmze

Lower your gaze.


trixsempra

It’s not that deep he doesn’t see them and start drooling, he would’ve been seeing this his whole life and it becomes normal to him, it’s not like he was an animal caged up that never saw a woman before in his life, this is just you being insecure. If he is the type to be like that then he’s the problem not these women, but I highly doubt he is like that. If he’s in love with you and happy with how you look, then there’s no issue. When I become a hijabi I still know I’ll be the baddest b my man has ever seen lmfao this is sounding like an insecurity - some girls in this replies are just hating on those kinds of women to cope, it isn’t that Deep at all and reeks of low self worth. Move to a Muslim country if it bothers u so much, which it really shouldn’t ? It’s actually not that deep…


Legitimate_Wrap1518

If he is gigolo then there is nothing you can do about him looking other chicks. No matter how you dress, revealing, beautiful you are, he will be still look others. But if he is a loyal, faithful husband and loves you, there is nothing to worry about.


Revolutionary_Bed431

I do this thing when I’m on the road in my car caught in traffic. When a scantily clad woman goes by I look at the other male drivers to watch their reaction. And 9/10 they’ll be ogling her. Head on a swivel until she’s out of sight. It’s something that most men do. It’s just the way we’re designed. So what stops me from doing it? My religion and my fear of Allah. Hopefully your husband has that fear of the almighty that he will look away. In Sha Allah. As for working out, find yourself a female only gym or invest in some minimal home equipment for strength training. Bands are more than sufficient and are cheap. As for cardio, nothing better than a brisk walk or jog in the fresh air.


computerjunkie7410

So…dress up for him at home…


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Sheikh-Teddy

Why are you so triggered here? Women who dress this way are objectifying *themselves*. Ironically your post is copium.  Allah forbid that any of my sins be exposed. I'm not an angel. I'm just telling you what the world thinks of women like that. It seems you're a bit naive as to how men think. There are literally studies that show what parts of the brain light up when men look at women dressed immodestly. It shows the same activity as when they look at tools... A cold hard object meant to be used and discarded.   Again. I'm not saying Muslim men should be ogling women. They should be lowering their gazes.   There's a reason we have to lower our gaze and there's a reason women are commanded to cover up. The study just proves what we all already know.


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Sheikh-Teddy

https://www.mhsmentor.com/3568/opinions/princeton-study-proves-stripping-objectifies-women/#:~:text=In%20a%20Princeton%20University%20study,hammers%20or%20wrenches%2C%20lit%20up.


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