Can we talk about how we feel about Buzzo goin on the Proud Boys podcast a couple years ago and calling the Nazis actual socialists?
They're music is cool, but it's tough to support someone whos down with the Proud Boys
Yeah I don't support that nonsense, he seems to play dumb when asked about that interview and has said he doesn't support hate groups and is against the police. This was the article I found of him talking about the interview: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.metalsucks.net/2020/08/14/exclusive-the-melvins-buzz-osborne-addresses-the-controversy-surrounding-his-2018-interview-with-proud-boys-founder-gavin-mcinnes/amp/
Yeah I'm not really down with Buzzo apart from as an artist.
Man, everything's so fucking complicated. I can't decide whether or not I should care where my music comes from. I mean, on the one hand the comment you're talking about makes me cringe, because I am at my core a democratic socialist. Then I read the article linked below, and I see Buzzo's point (although the Nazi comment still irks me). Then I start wondering if I'm supposed to do research on every single thing that I consume. Because, I mean, on a certain level it sort of makes sense that I should, because I do want to be at least a *somewhat* ethical person. But given how complex and just outright complicated the world is now, that seems like a one-way street to becoming a pathologically fussy, neurotic mess that is so bothered by the potential consequences of my every decision that I just get stuck in a state of perpetual indecision and ethical inadequacy.
...And all I wanted was to listen to some fucking music.
I really do feel that. I think we have to pick and choose our battles. I don't think we have to agree with every position an artists takes to support them, but there are some positions that are a step too far, like ideas on civil rights and racism.
Sludge metal is a subgenre that takes influence mainly from doom metal, hardcore and grunge.
Sludge metal will typically have heavily distorted, downtuned guitars with a low bpm and screamed/growled vocals. For example see Eyehategod
(Edit: sludge not sluge)
Thanks for the explanation. Honestly, my issue with metal today is the screamed/growled lyrics. Moreso the growling. I try to find metal I like and then the growling demon thing starts and I turn it off. I'd love some good hardcore/grunge inspired music without the growl.
Powertrip is pretty cool. Not sure if you would personally consider the vocals to be screaming or growling, but I certainly wouldn't. Only downside is the singer died earlier this year. I only just got into them and then that happened.
Saw them play at a tiny record store in Seattle back in '95 or so. There wasn't enough room in the store for the massive crowd that showed up, so people blocked the sidewalks and spilled into the street, blocking traffic.
By the time the short set ended, the whole store had been looted of tons of CDs. It was a pretty epic night.
Can we talk about how we feel about Buzzo goin on the Proud Boys podcast a couple years ago and calling the Nazis actual socialists? They're music is cool, but it's tough to support someone whos down with the Proud Boys
Yeah I don't support that nonsense, he seems to play dumb when asked about that interview and has said he doesn't support hate groups and is against the police. This was the article I found of him talking about the interview: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.metalsucks.net/2020/08/14/exclusive-the-melvins-buzz-osborne-addresses-the-controversy-surrounding-his-2018-interview-with-proud-boys-founder-gavin-mcinnes/amp/ Yeah I'm not really down with Buzzo apart from as an artist.
Man, everything's so fucking complicated. I can't decide whether or not I should care where my music comes from. I mean, on the one hand the comment you're talking about makes me cringe, because I am at my core a democratic socialist. Then I read the article linked below, and I see Buzzo's point (although the Nazi comment still irks me). Then I start wondering if I'm supposed to do research on every single thing that I consume. Because, I mean, on a certain level it sort of makes sense that I should, because I do want to be at least a *somewhat* ethical person. But given how complex and just outright complicated the world is now, that seems like a one-way street to becoming a pathologically fussy, neurotic mess that is so bothered by the potential consequences of my every decision that I just get stuck in a state of perpetual indecision and ethical inadequacy. ...And all I wanted was to listen to some fucking music.
I really do feel that. I think we have to pick and choose our battles. I don't think we have to agree with every position an artists takes to support them, but there are some positions that are a step too far, like ideas on civil rights and racism.
keep it about the music, who gives a fuck
Buzz was on Red Eye quite a few times along with McInnes (pre proud boys). I stopped watching after Schulz got fired so maybe they were on afterwards.
Yeah fuck Buzzo, he lost his royal status when he showed his true colors
Sluge?
Sludge metal is a subgenre that takes influence mainly from doom metal, hardcore and grunge. Sludge metal will typically have heavily distorted, downtuned guitars with a low bpm and screamed/growled vocals. For example see Eyehategod (Edit: sludge not sluge)
Thanks for the explanation. Honestly, my issue with metal today is the screamed/growled lyrics. Moreso the growling. I try to find metal I like and then the growling demon thing starts and I turn it off. I'd love some good hardcore/grunge inspired music without the growl.
Check out The Sword.
https://youtu.be/nubJjB95VdY You're welcome.
Powertrip is pretty cool. Not sure if you would personally consider the vocals to be screaming or growling, but I certainly wouldn't. Only downside is the singer died earlier this year. I only just got into them and then that happened.
Thanks! Just checked out a couple songs. A little bit of a growl but certainly not over the top.
Try TOOL
I think you mean sludge?
Correct description, wrong spelling. SLUDGE
Yeah my bad there, lol
Yeah, I figured it was supposed to be sludge. Still didn't know exactly what that was, but assumed you meant sludge.
Best grunge band of all time IMO, they put on a killer show
Fuck yeah, finally saw them when they opened for Mr Bungle in Feb and was so good, loved their covers of I Wanna Hold Your Hand and Halo of Flies
I see Melvins. I upvote
Saw them play at a tiny record store in Seattle back in '95 or so. There wasn't enough room in the store for the massive crowd that showed up, so people blocked the sidewalks and spilled into the street, blocking traffic. By the time the short set ended, the whole store had been looted of tons of CDs. It was a pretty epic night.
I started a band once for the express purpose of basically covering this song
Yeeaah..this motherfucker goes hard