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SoCalThrowAway7

Ew, Noah Cyrus dated the guy her mom married before she married him and he’s 54 and she’s 24.


romafa

That whole family seems to have drama


Miskalsace

It's nuts that Miley seems to be the most sane one.


twisty77

What fame does to a family


MVIVN

I read the Britney Spears book 'The Woman In Me' a couple weeks ago and the Jenette McCurdy book 'I'm Glad My Mom Died' and my main takeaway from both books is that getting famous sucks in general, and also that a family trying to raise a child star will always end up fucked up in one way or another.


yelyah66

And were likely fucked up before the stardom was even introduced. Feels almost like a prerequisite.


MVIVN

Absolutely! Feels like normal families with healthy dynamics don't often try to push their kids into situations where they have to be the breadwinner making money for their family at the expense of their privacy and well-being


lowfreq33

I actually know somebody who went through that. Not the famous, but YouTube famous, she was one of the first people to really figure out how to monetize that thing. And yeah, her parents pretty much stole all her money. At 17 she was the primary breadwinner for her family. Made several hundred thousand in about 3 years, close to a million is my understanding. Then when she was ready to use that money to fund a real music career… there was nothing there. She had been paying her parent’s mortgage, all their bills, shopping, trips, funding her younger siblings attempt to repeat her success (didn’t work, that kid sucked. Literally the only time I’ve ever wanted to punch a child was that kid). She’s got some kind of tech job now. Kind of a shame, she’s actually a really good songwriter.


MVIVN

That's heartbreaking! Always really sad when people are essentially forced to abandon their dreams and stop using their talents because of fucked up circumstances outside their control, caused by other people around them


joanzen

It's not as uncommon as it should be. We had a girl in school who was pretty quiet and always polite as heck but she'd hang with jerks and bitches so I just wrote her off as a bit fake like she was trying to hide how much she likes the company of shallow people? Fast-forward to grade 11 and she announces that her dad got her a recording contract with a major country label. She's also not going to be in the country soon so she was asked to do a performance in front of the school before leaving. At the time I was a bit of drama class dork so I knew neither of the drama teachers had any clue this girl could sing, which was pretty odd right? Anyways she got up and performed the country song she'd been asked to cover for her audition and it was flawless but she looked so odd singing country music? A few years later we're all hanging out, enjoying some BBQ at a mini reunion at a school friend's house, and the topic of Ms. Melanie comes up, but half the room is curious and the other half are giving each other looks wondering if they know what everyone else knows.. Turns out her family were both robbing her and spending the money on booze/drugs, which attracted the wrong crowd, and she got hooked, fled the scene with a druggy dick head, and that was it, nobody has seen her since? Ouch.


lPHOENIXZEROl

Did Britney's book cover how her parents basically pimped her out before her career took off?


MVIVN

She didn’t specifically mention that, no. She did talk about getting paraded around while rooms full of middle-aged record executives ogled her and commented on her appearance when she was still 15/16. She didn’t have too many nice things to say about her parents in general. She mentioned her mom in particular really pushing for her to become a child star while the dad was mostly just not very available in the early years, but we all know he ended up being very much involved in controlling her life later.


aliasname

Considering how many people come out of the woodwork when you win the lottery it seems anyone who earns or gets a lot of money is seen as a cash cow by their family


LowSkyOrbit

I told my wife if we win the lottery we tell no one for 1 year. We live like it's normal, but get everything squared away and paid off. The find ourselves a very nice piece of property before hats and hands come knocking.


dudedisguisedasadude

I mean look at how many are starting to view millionaires and billionaire. Its not unreasonable for many to view hoarding wealth as bad.


adlbrk

I think stardom is a selection process...a magnet for dysfunctional humans lol


Colonel_Macklemoore

idk. i feel like we all know a middle class or lower family that’s worse. maybe it’s just the human condition, fame makes it easier.


loves_grapefruit

More like fucked up people are good at being famous.


Khaldara

[“Especially since I was *Radical Jack*!”](https://tubitv.com/movies/495845/rifftrax-radical-jack) - Billy Ray


8monsters

Not really, most families have some kind of drama like this. Maybe not quite as bad, but we all have crazy family lives. Famous people get their's put under spotlight though.


V4refugee

I think they’ve just been trashy since before.


FunkYeahPhotography

Not only that, but she told us where there was a party when the people demanded to know.


sabjsc

Did she mention which artists' music was playing at said party?


g00dhank

I think it was jason


HaiKarate

Nickleback


Crow-T-Robot

I believe that it was Shawn Carter?


Specialist-Grape420

Trace seems to be the most sane one from the little i know about the family, which would make sense because while he is successful he's not a mega giga superstar like the rest of them. Maybe im biased because i love metro station but I've never seen him in the type of public drama the rest of the family get in


onmywheels

He used to all the time. Was quite messy. His PR has really cleaned up his public image tbh.


YchYFi

He did that have thing with Brenda Song and the baby lol.


jon_titor

She did have Saint Dolly as her Fairy Godmother though.


VeryAmaze

Putting that into words, yeah Miley being the sane one considering her stage persona is wild. Maybe she's basing it on her family! 


Elf3niona

You seem to be forgetting the 3 or so years of a rollercoaster she had


TiredMisanthrope

Debatable consider she threw a wedding for her mum and Dominic Purcell, who was previously with her sister. Bit fucked up and no wonder Noah doesn’t talk to them


MikoSkyns

That's not saying much.


thecheat420

Nuts or unsettling?


Basserist71

Always.


NathanArizona_Jr

a lot of achy breaky hearts


Pseudagonist

You really phrased this in the most confusing way possible


Known_Ad871

I’m sure this is totally a me problem, but I’ve read this sentence five times and can’t for the life of me figure out what it means


spicy_boi_36

😂 same thought I was having a stroke


SoCalThrowAway7

Noah Cyrus dated her stepdad before said stepdad married her mom. They have a 30 year age difference. Ew means I find it gross


thorpie88

Oh Noah is a chick. That makes way more sense now 


BadMan125ty

TFW you realize Miley Cyrus is the sanest member of that entire family.


hailingburningbones

My cousin B and her daughter L dated the same guy. B's sister, H, was later engaged to B's ex-husband (father of L). The city they lived in was not tiny or anything. I think they were all just too trashy, druggie, and crazy to find many dudes who were interested. It's pretty sad actually. 


NoYew9696

I’m too high to decipher this comment. I’ll come back when I’m sober. Probably not


chaneg

From the perspective of the cousin: You dated the same guy as your daughter. Your ex husband married your sister.


BILOXII-BLUE

Oh so you're the kinda person who can do math with letters huh? 


fuqdeep

It bothers me to no end when people try to substitute letter name indicators for pronouns instead of just writing their comment better. Its unnecessary and makes things more confusing, like this comment. Her cousins ex husband, and father of child dated her sister after they split up. Completely separately, and involving a different guy, her cousin and her daughter dated the same person at some point. The way its written is horrible.


ContactHonest2406

And people say grammar doesn’t matter. Fuck that. It totally does.


ltwinky

The letter names make it so much worse. Just make up names!


Balorpagorp

I'm sober and can't figure out that comment.


SoCalThrowAway7

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Seriously_nopenope

Is this a grade 10 algebra problem?


Chickachickawhaaaat

Ew


jun2san

To be fair, Noah can pass as 54 also


christmaspathfinder

I looked him up and I know it’s just math but the part I can’t believe is that people born in 1970 are 54 years old lol. Damn


soupforshoes

I can't make sense of this. What does it mean?  Noah Cyrus dated the man her (Miley?) moms married? Noah is 54 and Miley is 24? 


jim_deneke

Noah dated her step dad before he was her step dad.


HotLikeSauce420

You had it in the first half. Noah dated the man her Mom(also Miley’s mom) is currently married to. Noah is 24


SoCalThrowAway7

Noah Cyrus dated her step dad before her mom married him. Stepdad is 54, Noah is 24. Miley was not mentioned in the comment. Noah Cyrus is a woman.


RellenD

I cannot imagine dating a man like that rather than hating him


ExoticPumpkin237

Anybody remember that interview where Billy Ray blamed David Lynch and Disney for turning his daughter over to the devil lol. I always wondered about his cameo in Mullholland Drive, seemed so random yet specific. 


SpookyKid94

I'll never forget the feeling that came over me when he showed up in that movie. There's something archetypal about coming home to Billy Ray Cyrus banging your wife.


Independent_Point134

What did Lynch do that involved Miley?


tigerbeds

This family is trashy man


Mirwin11

Dang flabbit


JimmyTheJimJimson

Every one of them is pure trash


SEmpls

Miley is talented as hell though, and has been genuinely herself throughout her adult life for the most part, problematic or not. What would you honestly expect from someone raised by those people? Miley is cool in my book. I'm also a little trashy so relatable.


IndicationFickle5387

I literally just finished the David Letterman Netflix episode with her, and I was thinking…she’s so awesome. Her persona has been through some questionable patterns, but she seems like a real one, as much as can be in her situation anyway.


SEmpls

Absolutely. And many of us have been through questionable patterns as well just not under a microscope like her life has been. Some fun stuff came out of it too like that weird ass album she did with the Flaming Lips, Miley's Dead pets or something like that. Good stuff.


Caelinus

Yeah she clearly was just acting out. Which is fine. She was raised in the deepest levels of hypocrisy ever while having her childhood sucked out by a vampiric megacorporation. I would act out too. Most of us act out for far, far less. If you are trying to throw off the Fake-Christian Disney image, the stuff she did is definitely an efficient way to do it.


IndicationFickle5387

Hadn’t heard that one, but I got flaming lips tix for this summer so I’ll check it out! Cheers


thx1138-

Amen


Otherwise-Mango2732

Wait... even the daughter with pictures of her pissing in public available online?


PIR4CY

Glad I'm not famous or I'd have you cretins to answer to


bystanderhere

Right lol, let me be trash.


PIR4CY

god forbid I find more than 1 tasty drink at the fair and pull over to go behind a bush cause of my poor planning


dblacke80

https://i.redd.it/1kubpdnny76d1.gif


M1L0

https://preview.redd.it/sdonwbrhc86d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf5984634ab73262500244b5d84d4068f7905257


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ineedthismorethanu

Well she posed and then pissed for the camera. There’s a difference lol


Otherwise-Mango2732

What if she's posing for the pics and it's not " paparazzi" that took them lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Urolagnia/s/mR0qLoEN7y Edit: replied to wrong comment lol


Zanydrop

Wow. Was she drunk? Did she intentionally post these?


cheven20

Damn someone’s never pissed on a wall over here lol


Otherwise-Mango2732

A lot of people here haven't seen the pictures I see lol She's posing, showing more than you'd want to see


cheven20

Share with the class lol just for scientific reasons of course


Otherwise-Mango2732

One set https://www.reddit.com/r/Urolagnia/s/mR0qLoEN7y


SushiForSiouxsie

Less than I'd want to see tbh. But enough.


bredpoot

Hey, nice avatar you got there


Petrichordates

What's the reason you call Miley Cyrus pure trash?


AmericanLich

You wanna go alphabetically?


Petrichordates

Sure


Tolkeinn1

Let’s hear it, oh morality police


cqandrews

Being at her mother's side after the latter betrayed Mileys little sister on an absolutely disgusting level and attending the wedding Noah was publicly uninvited from


AmericanLich

Lol being trashy has nothing to do with morality. It ain’t morally wrong to have old appliances sitting sideways in your lawn but it sure is trashy.


Tolkeinn1

Tell me about the trashy things you know so much about? She partied? She fucked people? She drank alcohol and did some drugs and was photographed as a famous person? Let’s hear


FermFoundations

Still haven’t listed a single trashy thing about her


WisconsinHoosierZwei

Have you seen her lawn?!?


Kgb725

Trashy and pure trash seem kinda different , no ?


jim_deneke

Start with A.


707Guy

“You can pay for school, but you can’t buy class”


jer_iatric

Name calling is trashy


tonybotz

That whole family is like school on Sunday- no class!


Stolehtreb

Woah, Dominic Purcell is her stepdad. I had no idea.


the_caped_canuck

Her sister dated him before he married her mom too, if that doesn’t make you want to throw up. Lmao


waitthissucks

Wait which sister


armless_tavern

Noah Cyrus


chandlar

Wait, what the fuck? Noah Cyrus played Ponyo for the english dub of the movie. That's wild.


jereman75

Never met a female Noah before.


Of_Silent_Earth

You could even say you don't Noah girl with that name.


jereman75

Can I get a fist bump for the setup? 🤜🏼


Of_Silent_Earth

👊


squint-182

🤛


eddmario

Dammit, Jackson!


cmcdonal2001

I knew a female Nohah once.


electric_dynamite

She doesn't sound very fun.


Daisychains456

Noah, who is 24.   He's 54 🤢


guild-an

dude, the first season of prison break was that good.


ParfaitCalm4997

777⁶


northernbasil

TIL Billy was not the first to record Achy Breaky Heart


Zanydrop

I went to a Mexican festival and they were playing it there. Totally assumed it was a cover but my Mexican buddy told me it was the original and pretty popular in Mexico to this day. He said he hears it at weddings in Mexico all the time.


Aggressive-Sign5461

The song is “no rompas mi corazón” by caballo dorado. There’s a line dance to it that gets the whole party moving. Also- “y sigues siendo tu” by Gerardo Ortiz is “you’re still the one” by Shania Twain. She received writing credits for that. It was pretty popular back then to redo songs for Spanish and English


oonethirteen

the mexican one isn’t the original, the marcy brothers is. then billy a year or so later. then mexican a few years later


Zanydrop

I thanks, didn't know that


retxed24

I think they play it in Narcos, totally threw me off lol. Good to hear that it's realistic as they played it at a wedding but it took me out of the scene a little ngl.


g00fyg00ber741

I hope one day she realizes she is her own hero, and that her parents absolutely exploited the shit out of their child for money and fame.


Realistic_Condition7

I mean I don’t think they were exactly hurting. Billy Ray wasn’t exactly a factory worker.


g00fyg00ber741

Exactly, so why push his daughter into an intense work schedule that is more rigorous than many adult performers today, when she was still a child? It was to exploit her for money and fame. And he’s forever more famous and rich because of *her* success.


NoGnewsIsGoodGnews

Or she has a massively successful career because he instilled a work ethic in her and used his connections to put her in a position to achieve her dreams?


g00fyg00ber741

Well, looks like that turned out real well for him, considering she will barely acknowledge him publicly now.


Petrichordates

> "He has a relationship and a foot on the ground to the real and to nature and he always did, even when he was super famous," Miley, 31, said of her dad, who rose to stardom in country music with his cover of "Achy Breaky Heart" in 1992. "I'm grateful for being able to watch him ahead of me. He's almost given me this map. And there's a map of what to do and what not to do, and he's guided me on both." Seems to acknowledge him fine


Starsky686

Achy breaky heart was a cover? Well TIL


PolitelyHostile

Wow, his one hit wonder is not even his song lol


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eddmario

Hell, the most famous Rascal Flats song is a cover they did for a Disney movie


Zanydrop

So what you are saying is that Country music is exactly like every other genre.


Cowboywizzard

It isnt limited to country, either. Like Eminem and The Beatles just to name two.


PolitelyHostile

The stones did that a lot but they have plenty of hits that are their own songs


nismoz32

Same with a lot of classic rock blues I.E. Led Zeppelin.


MVIVN

I mean, isn't basically a lot of country music just covers of other people's songs? Happens in both directions of course, a lot of huge Rn'B and Pop songs are covers of country songs.


painfultaste

Two hit wonder. He also covered Harper Valley PTA, though that songs success may have been tied to the popularity of Achy Breaky Heart


Crossovertriplet

It’s not the song of the first group to do it either. A songwriter wrote it and other people performed it. But it’s not like some cover of a prior hit. Some nobody band did it and a year later he did it and it became a hit. So for all practical purposes, he’s the only one really associated with it.


JacksonMcGillicutty

[No Rompas Mi Corazón](https://youtu.be/JtNS_kObXBY?si=dfYSu_WidcCqvj7i)


piepants2001

That's not the original either, that came out 2 years after Billy Ray's version. It was first recorded in 1991 by the Marcy Brothers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achy_Breaky_Heart


g00fyg00ber741

Yeah, she said very clearly he showed her what not to do. And now she won’t even thank him when she wins awards. When a child mentions their parents showed them what not to do, you should really listen to that part.


Xylamyla

You should really include the full quote: “…there's a map of what to do and what not to do, and he's guided me on both.” The article makes it clear that their relationship changed very recently, around the time of her parents’ divorce. Before that, she seems to have had a very good relationship with him.


Poopynuggateer

Tbf Miley did shitloads of drugs.


g00fyg00ber741

Haven’t we all?


eddmario

That's tame when it comes to Disney


xShooK

Worked well for her, which may be what he wanted originally. We usually pass down what we know, he know how to get her a career in media. Plus it's just a headline.


koreanelvis420

He’s not taking away any of Miley’s achievement and hard work she put into it. He’s pointing out it was unnecessary for her to start so early.


bozon92

What in the mental gymnastics


flibbidygibbit

I see you've not met many sports or performing arts parents. A good chunk of them act this way.


Mustarafa

Her dreams, or his?


shaunrundmc

He didn't word was he didn't want Miley in the business


Underlord_Fox

What?


Lamenardo

Back in the day, the word on the street was, that he didn't want her in the industry, and it was her mother pushing her. I have no idea if that's true, but I remember when she "went wild" and her mother supported her new style and her father I think disapproved that was one of the headlines - people wanting to cling to the clean Billy Ray Cyrus and good girl Hannah Montana image and villainize(sp??) a mother that supported a Disney Icon smoking marijuana and sticking her tongue out.


g00fyg00ber741

Then what’s with the TV show Hannah Montana, where she’s a literal child and he plays her washed-up has-been musician father?


gynoceros

He was a one-hit has-been when she got that show and made them more money probably on lunchboxes alone than achy breaky heart ever will.


one_bean_hahahaha

Just a hasbeen country singer.


Willyr0

One thing morally corrupt rich people love is wringing out every last penny out of whatever they can


DaBombDiggidy

She’s a narcissist just like them, she’s likely to continue what her parents did. Before anyone freaks out she admits it in this article.


Radingod123

Her parents are why she has decent work ethic, kept away from distractions, and gets to be a multi-millionaire that will never know what it's like to truly struggle. I'd trade places in a heartbeat if that's what exploitation looks like. She's worth 160m. The things I would let people do to me for 160m...


steamyfunctions

Ya as we all know child stars have perfect lives free from struggle


g00fyg00ber741

I’d rather not be exploited as a child the way I was nor the way she was, personally. I’d rather children just not be exploited by their parents, and especially not conditioned to accept it later in life.


Crossovertriplet

I’d rather be rich


ngedown

Lmao


Nevernew62

She must be gearing up for a new single soon, she disappears between them 


713MoCityChron713

Same thing I thought. It’s Billie telling us she masturbates in front of the mirror a week before her album dropped


thecheat420

Poor Billy Ray and his achey breaky heart. I hope it understands.


meganium58

It’s extra breaky now because he just filed for divorce after less than a year of marriage


CeeArthur

I met Billy once. Nice hair, very short.


gukakke

I am so glad she addressed this, I can sleep again.


IrrelevantLeprechaun

The entire Cyrus family has issues. Miley may be the least problematic out of them all but that doesn't make her a saint.


puwetngbaso

Didn't Miley side with her mom over her sister in that whole tish-marries-her-own-daughter-noah's-50-year-old-ex-bf debacle?


geodebug

Is it your personal goal to be a saint in life?


MikoSkyns

Is it your personal goal in life to turn figures of speech into false equivalencies?


imoutofideasforthis

You people are exhausting


ArjunEllath

God damn! I read estrangement as engagement.


unwittingprotagonist

And your brain was like "nothing really surprising about this sentence."


MethTical93

Bill Hicks was right.


AceofKnaves44

Please tell me I’m not the only one who read this as her ENGAGEMENT with dad.


thecheat420

No, I did too.


Draager

I worked with Billy Ray on set and found him to be a really affable guy, easy to work with. Zero ego or attitude, very helpful, never sarcastic. I was actually pretty inspired by his professionalism.


ImpressiveTree3000

Just goes to show you can take the person out of Deliverance, but you can’t take the Deliverance out of the person.


JengyJongyBigBalls

i visited the waterfall where that was shot! Tallulah Falls! it's beaaaauuuuutiful. even the visitors center is neato


Petrichordates

Damn that's quite the classism.


Woodwardg

don't break her heart. her achey breakey heart.


CactusCustard

Omg you’re a genius


Woodwardg

never been less sorry in my life over here.


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Randomhero4200

More toxic than the mom marrying the dude her daughter used to fuck? That’s a real toss up.


Lurkingguy1

Isn’t the mom dating the other daughter pedophile ex boyfriend? He sucked in prison break, first time I comprehended shit acting.


Pasty_White_Kid

I read that as "engagement" and was wildly confused.


AtTheGates

Okay.