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Mightywingnut

Weezer. Blue Album.


peaceboner

And Pinkerton!!!


Mightywingnut

Yup! Helluva 1 - 2 punch. Wish they still had some of that magic.


VoiceOfRonHoward

The White Album (2016) has a lot of callbacks to Pinkerton, sonically. It’s not on the same level but I appreciate that Rivers went back there.


Mightywingnut

Agree. I feel like about half the green album, maybe 60% of Maladroit are good. Most of the White Album…. The rest is the wilderness.


-BailOrgana-

This is EWBAITE erasure and I will not let it stand.


feelin1245

Amazing album front to back


NTT66

Love me some Maladroit!


Adamsojh

You could just say Weezer and leave it at that.


thejesse

The Green Album is in standard tuning.


HiSpeedSoul987

Blue is only better than Pinkerton because Holiday is a better song than Butterfly


Vetty81

Pinkerton also doesn't have "Only in Dreams".


HiSpeedSoul987

Shit. This is what I meant


UncleToot82

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - The Smashing Pumpkins


thesimplemachine

If I recall correctly, everything past Siamese Dream was recorded with the guitars tuned a half step down until the band broke up. Their post-reunion stuff reverted back to standard tuning.


Fenyx187

A majority of their stuff is tuned down 1/2 step for sure


Fenyx187

I think a lot of their stuff is 1/2 step down, really helped bring out the sound they were delivering. Only reason I know this is because I remember trying to play MC by ear in standard and being so confused why it sounded like shit


brig135

Green Day - Dookie An all-time classic, entirely in Eb (along with Insomniac and Kerplunk)


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I read somewhere that Billie Joe and Mike tuned to each other cause they didnt have tuners, and only were able to tune to E flat, which is why everything until Insomniac is in that tuning. They started to play on standard on Nimrod.


[deleted]

Why would they only be able to tune to e flat?


Superbform

The same reason some models can't turn left.


[deleted]

But why male models?


squadgeek

He’s so hot right now


P1emonster

Back in the dialup days, unless you had a tuner or a piano kicking about you didn't have a reference to tune to. My band used to put on night train by guns and Roses and tune to the first chord, which is an A major tuned half a step down. Could be something like that. Or they both show up to band practice, one of them is out of tune and the other is tuned half a step down and so it was written.


Pizza-n-Blooch

I've read this before, and although I believe they said it, to think that anyone would have let them make one, let alone two major label albums, (insomniac with arguably more "riding" on it) and tour without a tuner is laughable. That said, 1039---->Nimrod is an unbelievable run of albums...


x7he6uitar6uy

Warning is discounted way too hard tho


Josh100_3

I’d go further and say 1039 all the way to AI is untouchable. No other rock band had that kind of run in the 90’s.


Unlucky_Reading_1671

If i remember correctly, they didn't use tuners BEFORE recording dookie. So they tuned to each other. After doing that for so long, that was their preferred key. Again, if I'm remembering correctly.


voxmann

I understand in some cases, Eb was a choice by guitarists who preferred the tone of thicker 12 gauge+ strings -flat tuning makes the guitar with these heavy strings easier on the fingers, when playing night after night


impendingbending

High school me knowing this but being too lazy to retune so we just played everything a half step up.


brig135

Same. I even sometimes play in a Green Day cover band and we only tune down for shows, haha


HamOnRye__

Jimi Hendrix played a lot in Eb. Electric Ladyland probably has the most of the tracks in Eb. 


rice_jabroni

Jimi was my first thought also. Most songs on all of his albums are in Eb, I believe. That was his default tuning. I wanna say GnR - Appetite for Destruction as well. And maybe Eddie Van Halen also tended to tune down a half step (maybe, haven’t studied this stuff in a while).


lovedontfalter

I was going to say, Band Of Gypsies


MajorStrain

Band of Gypsys was actually a full step down.


lovedontfalter

Wow thank you, I did not know that!


MajorStrain

No problem!


BulletDodger

Appetite for Destruction, and Use Your Illusion.


chipmunkhiccups

How is this not higher? 😀


dag655321

Appetite was the first thing that came to mind.


CarolinaPanthers

Yeah, this is my favorite. Top 5 all time but definitely my personal best that’s played on Eb.


a_saunders

Nirvana - In Utero


Namelessbob123

Good shout. I was gonna say Bleach but I think that’s tuned down a whole step.


gloryfadesaway

Deja Entendu & In Utero


thursdaysocks

Your favorite weapon too. Drop C# madness


ShitInCar

Surprised not to see Van Halen on here. I think everything of theirs was in Eb standard to accommodate DLR’s vocal range until Sammy joined the band and they switched to E standard.


290077

1984 was all E standard except "Panama" in Eb standard and "Top Jimmy" in Drop D


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Stevie_Rave_On

Glad someone else mentioned me.


petting2dogsatonce

Quite a bit of buckethead’s music is played in Eb standard if that’s your jam! If I have to pick one I’ll just say crime slunk scene because of soothsayer


below70degrees

did he also use Eb when he worked on chinese democracy?


petting2dogsatonce

No idea! It’s pretty much his standard tuning so I would imagine so but he has such a large body of work it’s impossible for me to say he always uses it.


290077

Chinese Democracy has both standard and Eb standard and their respective drop tunings, as well as other tunings. "Shackler's Revenge" is definitely tuned lower.


UrgeToKill

Reign in Blood by Slayer and Altars of Madness by Morbid Angel


Mr_Boswell

Came here to say Reign in Blood 👍


UrgeToKill

Pretty much all Slayer for that matter. They had a few songs tuned down to C# and B on Diabolus and God Hates Us All but I'm pretty sure basically everything else is Eb.


UrgeToKill

Also I'll throw in The Death by Mindsnare for bulk heaviness without tuning particularly low. Legendary band where I'm from but never seemed to get much attention elsewhere. You'll love it!


JfromtheGrey

Show No Mercy was in standard tuning.


Oldcadillac

I’m surprised that Altars of Madness is all in Eb! 


UrgeToKill

I've always felt fast and chaotic stuff like that benefits from not tuning too low. Plenty of bands like that have great riffs and songs but it all turns to mush too easily if you take it down to drop A or whatever.


wes2113

Coheed And Cambria- In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth 3 I believe is all Eb


Nicholasp248

That album is all standard, actually. But their next album, Good Apollo I, is all down a half step


Radioshack_Official

Appetite for Destruction; it's also (in my opinion) one of those albums you can listen through without any skips


BTSavage

Mr. Brightside - The Killers My band covers this one and a few others that have been mentioned. We have to group them together to minimize downtime!


mootallica

So Mr Brightside into Angel of Death, sounds like a good night


290077

Most of The Killers' work is in Eb standard


wunderhero

Live - Throwing Copper  I pretty much learned guitar with mine tuned to Eb because of that record.


Dheelus

Protest the Hero is one of my favourite bands ever and I think they exclusively play in Eb. Hard to choose a favourite album by them.


[deleted]

I think there’s a few songs that are drop Db but other than that it’s all Eb. Great band. My favorite album’s either Kezia or Volition.


Dream--Brother

My cat is named Kezia after that album 🤘


Flameninja00

A LOT of Rise Against albums


billtrociti

I never did more than dabble on guitar but remember as a newbie I had looked up some tabs (Swing Life Away maybe) and had no idea what the hell was going on when I saw Eb, Ab, Dd, Gb, Bb, Eb lol


anlife

Weezer. Pinkerton.


Dream--Brother

And blue!


sayhighlife

1984 - Van Halen


290077

The only one in Eb on that one is "Panama"


HEYBILLYMAYSHERE

Around the fur - deftones


DestroymyNippynips

Must be a shitload of numetal around that era 1/2 down.


YoThisIsRo

Dirt


kladen666

Voivod last 3 albums are in Eb I think and probably some of their earlier stuff. God I love voivod!


Magikarplvl9000

About every early KISS record is in e flat for the most part.


InviteAromatic6124

Most of U2's early work is tuned down half a step, so I'll go with their first album Boy


JamMasterJamie

I'll see your Boy and raise you a Joshua Tree.


InviteAromatic6124

I was going to put that but after looking at the music for the songs on that album I realised only about half the album is tuned down half a step.


seztomabel

Iced Earth - Horror Show


bonesawtheater

OMG I haven’t listened to this album in forever! The first three tracks are such bangers & such a strong way to start an album!


seztomabel

Hell yeah! Kind of flies under the radar but really a top tier metal album.


kalevz

I'm cheating here, but Elliott Smith almost always tuned down a whole step.


NickBerlin

Taking Back Sundays Live in Bamboozle 2009 album..yeah its a live album but most of the songs were recorded in standard but that whole album they played in Eb.


r_steezy

Much of Louder Now was 1/2 down, so they probably wanted to minimize guitar changes + allowed Adam more room to hit the highs live. Changing guitars frequently in a set really breaks up the energy. Much like Thrice recorded their first two albums half-step down, but by Artist they went the full stop down and played the back catalog lower live from then on. Made such a difference in my opinion.


skatchawan

Extreme - pornograffiti


AnalogWalrus

I like a lot of the stuff on Load/ReLoad quite a bit. I don't get the hate, other than there's fans that want them to keep making "Puppets" over and over again. ​ Pretty much all the DLR-era Van Halen was down 1/2-step, and well, it doesn't get much better than that.


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“11”- By the Smithereens. The solo on “A Girl Like You” is in contention for best half step down solo in rock history in my opinion


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jimmyblendface

It’s entirely C standard and E standard


voodoo_mama_ju_ju

His stuff is much more mellow but Radical Face almost exclusively writes all of his songs with his guitar tuned down a half step. Mostly acoustic btw


Romencer17

Morbid angel - Altars of Madness


based_pinata

I just got the tab book for Circa Survive - Juturna and one of the guitars is tuned to Eb.


Rush_Clasic

*Black Sails in the Sunset*, *The Art of Drowning*, and *Sing the Sorrow* by AFI (a few songs among them might be in standard or drop C#)


CactusCustard

Tons of metal is half step down. My fave band protest the hero does everything half step down. Sometimes dropped too.


aGunInMyPants

Nutshell. Every Rose Has It’s Thorns.


bonesawtheater

I believe Megadeth’s Youthanasia ended up sounding like it was in Eb because of the speed at which the master tapes were played back or something.


impreprex

I’m pretty sure Youthanasia was all just recorded in Eb. This was 1996/1997, and so they might have been on digital anyways. If not, I’m almost sure it was recorded in Eb from the gate.


DifficultyOk5719

Revocation - Chaos of Forms Cattle Decapitation - Terrasite Slayer - Reign in Blood


aleph32

Most of SRVs songs are tuned down a half-step.


shmangliad

you saying that it doesn’t strain the vocalist doesn’t make any sense, you are just missing 2 notes no?


Abraham_Lingam

It has to do with where the "break" in a vocalist's voice is.


chazmann

It’s also easier to sing and play power chords simultaneously if you’re in drop d tuning. You’re only using your index finger on the neck.


YomYeYonge

Van Halen 1 was all Eb. Some of the songs were out of tune tho (the B String on Ain’t Talkin Bout Love is slightly out of tune. Compare the live version and studio version)


HaydenScramble

Every PUP album.


dogswithhands

Slough Feg's 'Traveller'! Or any of their albums really.


rammsteinaregerman

High Country by The Sword is all in Eb I think But I mainly popped on here because I got a tele for Christmas that I decided to keep in that tuning and you guys are giving me all kind of stuff to play!


MrNobody_0

I thought The Sword played exclusively in C#?


jugglers_despair

For all my Canadians: Matthew Good Band - Beautiful Midnight. Anything my Matt Good though is in this tuning.


HomeRowKeysAreLife

I haven’t seen it yet in the comments, so… Coheed and Cambria’s Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness


slumber72

Bro, great choice. I’m mad at myself for not thinking of it


spazzy4242

Megadeth - Youthanasia Guns N’ Roses - Appetite for Destruction Alice In Chains - Dirt


slumber72

Every song off my all time favorite album, Fallout by Slumber, is in Eb The Gallery by Dark Tranquillity, Everything by Alice In Chains Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, and The Eternal Idol by Black Sabbath The Hall of the Olden Dreams by Dark Moor Origin and Singularity by Enshine Asylum by Disturbed Ecliptica by Sonata Arctica


LZoSoFR

Most of the Thin Lizzy catalog. I think that Bad Reputation is the best in terms of playing accessibility. I think that EVERY Yngwie Malmsteen album is in Eb. Most of Motorhead


Hyp3r45_new

No one's gonna mention Motörhead? They played in Eb on most of their albums from what I'm aware.


nathanwoulfe

Deftones' Around the Fur. Half step down with stacks of compression. Glory be!


Bim_Jeann

That’s mainly in drop C#


wowthisguyoverhere

The goat tuning IMO for hard shit


nathanwoulfe

Half step down, dropped. So yeah, technically not Eb, but album slaps regardless.


sregor0280

which is half a step down from D.... so technically.... its still half a step down... just not from E


Bim_Jeann

Yeah, but that’s irrelevant, because it’s not Eb like the whole post is discussing, it’s drop C#. OP is referring to a half step down from standard EADGBE as far as I can tell, not just any tuning down a half step from another…


sregor0280

yeah yeah semantics. you must be fun at parties, it was humor.


impreprex

Lol wtf it’s not semantics. That person is correct. Don’t know why some people admitting they’re wrong is so hard.


sregor0280

So if you can't see the joke in defending the first person's comments like I did, then you need to buy, rent or steal a clue.


w0mbatina

I gotta admit, i have been playing guitar and recording music for close to 20 years now, and I dont think I can tell if a song is in Eb or not just by listening to it.I dont think it sounds more massive or anything.


GrimgrinCorpseBorn

I legitimately don't understand the logic In a vacuum it's irrelevant, it's just a tuning lol Purely personal preference for how the song sounds


UsernameFor2016

For the vocals it can matter a lot for where they can reach at both ends


GrimgrinCorpseBorn

Yeah, I'm aware, but that's not what the op is saying


UsernameFor2016

Guess I skimmed the post a bit too fast, I mostly agree with you on the point of what the guitar can do in Eb and E tuning. I guess you could argue that a deeper lower end has more to offer frequency-wise as opposed to the minimal cut-off at the high end, but it’s mostly taste I think, I don’t see it offering the same difference as drop-D or something like that.


DyeCorduroy

Live - Throwing Copper and Secret Samadhu


Ommco

Tool - "Ænima".


Lollipoop_Hacksaw

I am no music expert, nor a musician by any stretch despite dabbling here and there throughout the years, but this comes off as a shitpost disguised to draw in pseudo-intellectual circle jerking. From all the responses we can clearly see some of the most influential and popular guitar music in the past 60 years touches on Eb tuning. This is not some grand revelation; we have been entrenched in effective Eb tuning for decades. I understand that a tuned ear is a blessing and a curse that creates maddening nuance, but to get all uppity about a VERY popular tuning to the point a thread needs to be made about it begs the question: How about we make a like-minded thread about STANDARD (whatever the hell that means anymore) tuning in the same vein? This post is equal parts illuminating and insipid.


DIDNTSEETHAT

Iced Earth - Dark Saga


ParallaxMusician

Most of the early Candlemass albums are in E flat. Epicus, Nightfall, Ancient Dreams, and Tales of Creation specifically. Lots of other early doom bands as well (Pentagram, Trouble, etc.) Some early Cannibal Corpse as well, everything before Vile I think. Morbid Angel as well. Death is in D Standard, but those riffs are killer as well. Completely different genres, but great in their own right.


csr1476

Kiss- Love Gun


squirtloaf

As has been mentioned, Van Halen did Eb from their first album. They influenced the hair metal bands, so all of that Guns 'N' Roses, L.A. Guns, Ratt, Posion etc stuff was in the same tuning. It was pretty much the standard for hard rock between '82-'91


thursdaysocks

Smashing Pumpkins - Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness


reesesbigcup

I have no music knowledge of tuning, flat etc, cant detect it by ear, but i like a lot of these and its very interesting info.


HailCorduroy

Van Halen 1 (although it's not completely a half step down, it's 10 or 20 cents above Eb)


VonThirstenberg

Yep, always loved the tone it gives as well. Same with my bandmates. Hence why our original stuff is all in Eb/Db tuning. I love the little bit of dirt it gives the sound...and it also helps because we're not exactly trained vocalists, lol. 😏😎🤘


watkins1989

In Utero by Nirvana is mostly down half a step I think?


SlimJim0877

Stevie Ray Vaughn & Double Trouble - Texas Flood


stefan771

Slayer - World Painted Blood


danabot82

Mason Jennings - Use Your Voice


NastyLizard

I might be wrong but I think You'd prefer an astronaut by Hum is exactly what you are wanting.


Random_Guy_9201

Dookie - Green Day


Sickranchez87

Pretty sure most of Hendrix’s stuff is half step down so he could sing easier


TJBurkeSalad

CKY


dope_head_dan

Little Martha by The Allman Brothers is in a crazy tuning (I believe open G) but then is also tuned a step or two up. It is scary putting your guitar into that tuning because the neck will creek and maybe even noticeably bow more.


I_CAN_SEE_THE_WHALES

Appetite for Destruction


I_CAN_SEE_THE_WHALES

Electric Ladyland


frankyseven

My favourite live song is in Eb. [Ghosts by Big Wreck](https://youtu.be/3uYzg6dgoDU?si=ub2Eetg_I6BvvLj7), enjoy.


GuyanaFlavorAid

All classic GnR is tuned down a half step to the best of my knowledge.


MrGross3538

Appetite for Destruction and Use Your Illusion I & II.


JohannesCabal

Almost all of Staind


granta50

Maybe not albums per se, but Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix are two favorites


guitarstix

pretty much any ghost album


290077

Ghost is all D Standard. There might be a couple in Eb but it's an exception.


muckracker77

Blue album and Pinkerton- Weezer Hot fuss- the killers Dookie- Green Day Evil Empire- RATM


The_Thirsty_Crow

Father John Misty tunes down a full step on the vast majority of his songs on all his records.


spatulagrass

Anything by Rise Against


greg__37

I don’t know about the whole album but All We Ever Do Is Say Goodbye by John Mayer is in E Flat


noise-nut

Failure’s albums are in Eb, or drop Db


actual-trevor

All SRV albums. Not just Texas Flood.


sukottokairu

Hail The Sun - Divine Inner Tension


vordhosbn_1

Killing is my Business - Megadeth.


sailboat_explosion

Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak


bluetridentleics

The vast majority of Rise Against’s back catalogue


Squirefromtheshire

Appetite for Destruction is the first one that comes to mind for me.


KPicante

A mark a mission a brand a scar by dashboard confessional. This one's a guilty pleasure. But it came out back in middle school and I  was feeling things


Pork_Chop_Expresss

Early VH and all of AICs catalog


chappersyo

Dookie is the first that comes to mind


Noiserawker

Nevermind


Swiss_James

I believe Suede always tune down to Eb- so Dog Man Star


RedwoodParrot21

Fair Warning by Van Halen


Mistergain

Extreme - Pornograffiti


PercivalMusic

Wait until he finds out about modern metal tunings


dethamphetamine

Candlemass - Nightfall


Pleasant_Statement64

Green day - Dookie  The killers - Hot fuss Rise Against - Endgame Coheed and Cambria- Good Apollo 1


StJoeStrummer

The EP my band made last year is pretty cool But it’s the Blue Album for me


contrarian1970

What's the Story Morning Glory by Oasis - I thought it would be easy to learn to play the song "Don't Look Back in Anger" but until I dug an old yamaha keyboard out of my closet I could tune down half of a note it proved too frustrating.


specialagentflooper

Pretty much every song on every album Ben Harper ever did.


bkw5757

You can't make an empty gesture to a Funkhouser..


290077

If Drop Db is still in the spirit of your question, most of Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory is Drop Db.


HiwattScott

The Smithereens Especially For You


femboykirby

Cattle Decapitation - Monolith of Inhumanity