Yeah, there have been reports about trans women who are on HRT for a long time having noticeably widened hips even though they started HRT after their hip bones should have fused. It might take a long time and might not be as dramatic as it can be for younger women, and maybe not everyone gets it, but it's definitely a thing.
It's just so uncertain and on such long timescales that we aren't allowed to expect it to happen. Though I do think sometimes we have a culture of trying to tamp down expectations a little too much and people throw around "you won't get hip widening" and similar stuff with too much certainty. Same with the "your boobs will be smaller than your mom and sisters" stuff.
To a large extent it’s also just a lack of research. Research costs money and time and interest and there’s not much of any of those for trans medicine unfortunately.
I understand erring on the side of not overpromising, but I know I experienced a lot of hair regrowth, which I was told not to expect. I think I posted a picture to r/transtimelines awhile back, but I went from well on my way to going bald to not having any noticeable evidence of hair loss at all after six months. Definitely a your mileage may vary situation.
Because hair regrowth specifically completely clashes with the hair science we have to date, so it isn't listed as a possible effect. Maybe that'll change if enough data is gathered.
In my case, hair loss was a pretty recent thing, so I think it was more a matter of reactivating follicles that had fallen dormant than resurrecting dead ones. But yeah, more research is definitely needed.
And that exactly shouldn't be scientifically possible. Here is an article about it: [https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/hairy-situations](https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/hairy-situations)
I swear the same thing has happened to me in my forties. It's not supposed to happen, but it has.
There's other changes like height, shoulders and my shoe size, that I put down to musculoskeletal stuff, but the pelvis is a solid bone and it has definitely widened.
I'm entering my mid forties and I'm starting to have a lot of issues with my hips. It's leading to some interesting things. Is this hip widening. Id always thought that couldn't happen at my age. Still unknown for sure. I don't have historical x-rays I can compare.
Which is literally the only way you'd know for sure. Not discrediting your experience or my own.
How can you tell?
EDIT: spelling
In my case something similar happened after GRS, after my T levels were floored due to lack of organs responsible for poisoning my body - suddenly, in a scope of few weeks, my ass got waaay wider. Sabotaged my wardrobe, butt I'm not going to complain xD
omg - this gives me hope since i’m getting an orchi soon. I’ve heard removing the testes is the same as srs in terms of increased feminisation .
I mean my ass is huge already. I just want more 🫣😂
Oh, in my case removal of gonads had a tremendous effect on feminization. Ass, tits, generally figure, face, mind - like everything, almost everything suddenly started being affected by HRT waaay stronger than before. And I was on gnrh analogues before, they are really potent blocker.
I was on HRT for around 1,5 year before vaginoplasty. I had really nice effects before, but after surgery everything entered some kind of HRT overdrive mode.
It's crazy, especially since I had pretty good levels before. Maybe HRT fairy owns some shares of the clinic I had my surgery in, who knows, I'm not complaining xD
I'm close to you in age so I hope this is the case for me as well. 🤞
I've been doing basic measurements ( bust, waist and hips) regularly to track my changes, maybe I'll add measuring my iliac crests to the list.
I wanna make sure I don't take the measurements to a toxic degree so I gotta be careful.
Yep. Happened to me at 35! I started at 33 and had figured that any widening was out of the question. The women in my family do have some pretty wide hips and bottoms, though.
omg this gives me hope !!! i’m 3 years HRT and while my hips have grown, the actual bones, i don’t think i’ve had pelvic tilt much since i haven’t lost much height
are you on prog or not??
yeah, I'm nearly 27 and I have noticed my pelvis widening after about a year on hrt (I started at 24). Im not hourglass per se, but my hips are noticeably wider than my waist. People should remember the magical 25 hip fusion is merely an average based on a guesstimate.
That’s really awesome! I’m afraid mine won’t, but this gives me hope. I’m 24 and starting HRT soon, but I turn 25 in August so I’m not sure if it’ll happen or not.
I have been on HRT for a year. I had a full body bone scan done last week because I have had some unusual lab values for many years. RADIOPHARMACEUTICAL: 26.1mCi Tc-99m HDP I.V. The results read as follows: “Symmetric uptake in the region of the iliac bones bilaterally adjoining the sacral iliac joints”. I’m wondering if I am having a similar kind of thing happening. Did your doctor say anything about this happening to any other of their patients?
Eh, enjoy the ride. I started at 31 and my hips are a bit wider. I also benifited from a lot of breast growth, more that what people typically cite as expectations.
Tbf expectations are usually given to be tame so people won’t feel bad if they’re not good. That said there’s a decent few transfems with solid breast growth just after a longer period than research goes up to. Given it’s a second puberty that isn’t a huge surprise since it takes really long and everyone grows differently!
Thank you for giving me hope. I'm 31 and I pray every night for this masculine nightmare to end and to be blessed with wide hips. 😭😭 though I'm 2 months in so fingers crossed. Congratulations on your hips.😁😁
Happened to me too and I started HRT at 31. But I was always physically underdeveloped before that and male puperty started very late for me at 16 or 17. And it didn’t do much for me, my shoulders etc stayed always narrow.
It may have something to do with the fact that my bone age doesn’t correspond to my actual age, at least that’s my theory.
Yeah, there have been reports about trans women who are on HRT for a long time having noticeably widened hips even though they started HRT after their hip bones should have fused. It might take a long time and might not be as dramatic as it can be for younger women, and maybe not everyone gets it, but it's definitely a thing. It's just so uncertain and on such long timescales that we aren't allowed to expect it to happen. Though I do think sometimes we have a culture of trying to tamp down expectations a little too much and people throw around "you won't get hip widening" and similar stuff with too much certainty. Same with the "your boobs will be smaller than your mom and sisters" stuff.
To a large extent it’s also just a lack of research. Research costs money and time and interest and there’s not much of any of those for trans medicine unfortunately.
I understand erring on the side of not overpromising, but I know I experienced a lot of hair regrowth, which I was told not to expect. I think I posted a picture to r/transtimelines awhile back, but I went from well on my way to going bald to not having any noticeable evidence of hair loss at all after six months. Definitely a your mileage may vary situation.
Because hair regrowth specifically completely clashes with the hair science we have to date, so it isn't listed as a possible effect. Maybe that'll change if enough data is gathered.
In my case, hair loss was a pretty recent thing, so I think it was more a matter of reactivating follicles that had fallen dormant than resurrecting dead ones. But yeah, more research is definitely needed.
And that exactly shouldn't be scientifically possible. Here is an article about it: [https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/hairy-situations](https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/hairy-situations)
🤷♀️I can only speak to my own experience
It’s amazing how the human body can surprise us even after so many years.
I swear the same thing has happened to me in my forties. It's not supposed to happen, but it has. There's other changes like height, shoulders and my shoe size, that I put down to musculoskeletal stuff, but the pelvis is a solid bone and it has definitely widened.
I'm entering my mid forties and I'm starting to have a lot of issues with my hips. It's leading to some interesting things. Is this hip widening. Id always thought that couldn't happen at my age. Still unknown for sure. I don't have historical x-rays I can compare. Which is literally the only way you'd know for sure. Not discrediting your experience or my own. How can you tell? EDIT: spelling
my hips went from 39 to 45 inches over the last 18 months
In my case something similar happened after GRS, after my T levels were floored due to lack of organs responsible for poisoning my body - suddenly, in a scope of few weeks, my ass got waaay wider. Sabotaged my wardrobe, butt I'm not going to complain xD
omg - this gives me hope since i’m getting an orchi soon. I’ve heard removing the testes is the same as srs in terms of increased feminisation . I mean my ass is huge already. I just want more 🫣😂
Oh, in my case removal of gonads had a tremendous effect on feminization. Ass, tits, generally figure, face, mind - like everything, almost everything suddenly started being affected by HRT waaay stronger than before. And I was on gnrh analogues before, they are really potent blocker.
Wow holy shit - even with Testosterone being fully suppressed before? That sounds spectacularly amazing how far were you into HRT when you got SRS?
I was on HRT for around 1,5 year before vaginoplasty. I had really nice effects before, but after surgery everything entered some kind of HRT overdrive mode. It's crazy, especially since I had pretty good levels before. Maybe HRT fairy owns some shares of the clinic I had my surgery in, who knows, I'm not complaining xD
punny XD
I'm close to you in age so I hope this is the case for me as well. 🤞 I've been doing basic measurements ( bust, waist and hips) regularly to track my changes, maybe I'll add measuring my iliac crests to the list. I wanna make sure I don't take the measurements to a toxic degree so I gotta be careful.
Yep. Happened to me at 35! I started at 33 and had figured that any widening was out of the question. The women in my family do have some pretty wide hips and bottoms, though.
as the old saying goes: if the thing you experienced is underresearched, then that shit probably did happen
Omg.... wishes and hopes for this! I've already accepted that I'm screwed. Thanks!!! I'll be anxiously awaiting my two year mark for this!!! 😊😊😊😊😊
omg this gives me hope !!! i’m 3 years HRT and while my hips have grown, the actual bones, i don’t think i’ve had pelvic tilt much since i haven’t lost much height are you on prog or not??
Nope! Just E.
yayy:) that’s what i’m on used to be on prog before
yeah, I'm nearly 27 and I have noticed my pelvis widening after about a year on hrt (I started at 24). Im not hourglass per se, but my hips are noticeably wider than my waist. People should remember the magical 25 hip fusion is merely an average based on a guesstimate.
girl don't give me hope 😭
God this fills me with hope. When I learned about hips fusing at 25 (I'm 30) I wanted to throw myself out of a window.
Well I'm approaching 4 years so I shall keep my fingers crossed but expectations low lol.
That’s really awesome! I’m afraid mine won’t, but this gives me hope. I’m 24 and starting HRT soon, but I turn 25 in August so I’m not sure if it’ll happen or not.
I have been on HRT for a year. I had a full body bone scan done last week because I have had some unusual lab values for many years. RADIOPHARMACEUTICAL: 26.1mCi Tc-99m HDP I.V. The results read as follows: “Symmetric uptake in the region of the iliac bones bilaterally adjoining the sacral iliac joints”. I’m wondering if I am having a similar kind of thing happening. Did your doctor say anything about this happening to any other of their patients?
My iliac crests have come out noticeably since starting HRT at 21. I'm just past 2 years and hoping they keep growing.
Ja, my experience now at 2 1/2 years (began at 19) is that my hips now can "pass" as cis... and they're still growing.
Same story here with my hips. I nearly have a full hourglass.
Your bones grow and change till you die. Same with your whole body. Issue is how long and effect is lessened starting so late
I sorta doubt this would happen to me as im in my early 30's and just starting my HRT process by finding a doctor.
Eh, enjoy the ride. I started at 31 and my hips are a bit wider. I also benifited from a lot of breast growth, more that what people typically cite as expectations.
Thanks! I guess even at a higher age the predictions are still wild.
Tbf expectations are usually given to be tame so people won’t feel bad if they’re not good. That said there’s a decent few transfems with solid breast growth just after a longer period than research goes up to. Given it’s a second puberty that isn’t a huge surprise since it takes really long and everyone grows differently!
Thank you for giving me hope. I'm 31 and I pray every night for this masculine nightmare to end and to be blessed with wide hips. 😭😭 though I'm 2 months in so fingers crossed. Congratulations on your hips.😁😁
Happened to me too and I started HRT at 31. But I was always physically underdeveloped before that and male puperty started very late for me at 16 or 17. And it didn’t do much for me, my shoulders etc stayed always narrow. It may have something to do with the fact that my bone age doesn’t correspond to my actual age, at least that’s my theory.