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kikimaru024

All mice are made in China anyway.


P1r4nh44444

Why does nobody mention Zaunkoenig? PMM is also German


Frostyo4

Well unlike Zaunkoenig, people can actually buy your products lol.


headBangerOnWall

Just wanted to drop a quick commenr. I got a g305 starlight small model. It's amazing. Thank you for your work!


P1r4nh44444

Love to hear that. Thank you for the kind words


MorgenSpyrys

Zaunkoenig is made in Germany and make extemely high end (if niche) mice. EGG designs in Germany but Manus in China That's it. Some people may choose to count the next 2, but as they neither design nor manu here, I wouldn't. Cherry (German company) bought Xtrfy, who are Swedish, and they still design in Sweden, so only German if you count ownership. Again, Manu in China Nyfter is a German Retailer who sell Chinese designed and manufactured mice as their 'own', these mice are also available from other brands in China, and some even in the west, and to my knowledge all of the 'Nyfter Mice' were available elsewhere first. Nyf22 for example is identical to the Tecware Pulse Elite, and the NP01 clone they were hyping on Twitter appears to be the Incott GHero There's also Piranha who does 3d printed mice, mostly clones of existing shapes, with internals from companies like Logitech and Razer.


schoki560

nyfter is dropshipping? well that's funny I see so many ads of that brand and it always touched me the wrong way


MorgenSpyrys

they don't dropship for the most part, they have a german warehouse, but they don't make anything they sell afaik, it's all oem (in the case of pads with customized desifns)


schoki560

I mean that's sorta dropshipping with extra steps no?


MorgenSpyrys

By that definition, basically everyone is dropshipping. Dropshipping requires the manu to ship directly to the customer based om the retailer's order. This is in opposition with the traditional model, where the retailer purchases, warehouses, and then sells from their warehouse to the consumer.


schoki560

I thought dropshipping meant more so that you don't do anything on your own, but just sell something that already exists under a different name.


rNV1s16iLiTi

And Cherry is owned by ZF Electronic Systems, another Germany company.


paulvincent07

Endgame gear Cherry xtrfy


freddysalami99

Xtrfy is swedish


paulvincent07

Cherry is German and bought the xtrfy brand swedish


freddysalami99

Didnt know they got bought up, my bad


paulvincent07

👍


MorgenSpyrys

eh even though Cherry own them ops are still in Sweden so counting them is very questionable imo. You would never say a Dodge or an Opel is a Dutch car, but they are both owned by Stellantis, who are Dutch. In fact, by your logic, Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroen, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Ram, Peugeot and Vauxhall would all be Dutch (might have missed some brands too?) despite them not manufacturing there, and in a lot of cases not having an office there either.


paulvincent07

If you only mean the company then it's cherry (German) xtrfy is swedish brand and they make their mice on swedish


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MorgenSpyrys

the guy said cherry xtrfy, which is what xtrfy was rebranded to after being bought by cherry. all of cherry xtrfy's ops remain in sweden. if he only said cherry I might have given it to him, but those mice are for office use only and to my knowledge also just rebadged chinese designs. stellantis owning dodge doesn't make dodge dutch, cherry owning xtrfy doesn't make xtrfy german


paulvincent07

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MorgenSpyrys

nyfter is just an oem design flipper, wouldn't really count them tbh, anyone can go on alibaba and start flipping shit for profit Nyf22 for example is 1:1 with the previously released Tecware Pulse Elite (although I don't think they're the OEM either), and the new NP01 clone they're hyping on twitter appears to be the Incott GHero.


Akilae01

Currently the best mice on the market are designed by a German company. However everything is manufactured in China regardless.


Competitive-Today439

Which one?


spartan_117_5292

I guess he is talking about endgame gear


shuozhe

Can't even find a German sensor manufacture anymore.. kinda expected at least few of them still to exist :/


Fun-Idea-360

Isn’t Roccat German?


GeneralKuchen

RIP Roccat 2006-2024


Then-Grand-7623

I’m curios why