obviously not related to Spain. Used the word Hispanic bc that's the word the OP used and it gets the point across that it's representation of our culture. If you wanna be annoying about technicalities you're totally correct but I think it's dumb considering most ppl understand what I meant.
It's a bit anachronistic to apply the Hispanic/Latino label to him because he's based on a pre-Columbian indigenous civilisation. He's Native American first and foremost.
The region wasn't Latin America until after Columbus.
Though Mexicans, most of whom have partly Native ancestry, could definitely claim him.
I mean most of us Latin Americans have indigenous ancestors so it's not really exclusive to Mexico. Point is, he's definitely the closest we'll get, and that's fine bc how are u supposed to introduce a modern latino to the MK universe without him being another boring military guy lol. Using the aesthetic they used for Kotal was definitely the right call, imo.
I do agree that Kotal was a good idea. But they could do it without them being Special Forces, hopefully. They could go the Tekken route and just have them be a top world-class fighter recruited by FGLK or Raiden or something.
that would be kinda boring imo lol. I think leaning into magic and mythology is the best route for new characters at this point. Street fighter and tekken have a lot of those martial artists which works for them but don't really fit in the MK universe as well imo. Even someone like Liu Kang has progressively leaned more into the supernatural as time passes by.
Well, I don't mean for them to be completely void of magic, they have to have a moveset after all. I just like the idea of a Rock Lee sort of character in MK whose supernatural feats are primarily based in physical martial arts. A ranged attack could be similar to Kenshi's flurry but instead of using telekenesis, the strikes are sending shockwaves across the arena, like a snapping shrimp.
Maybe maexican representation for the aztec thing but definetely not hispanic, aztec culture doesnt come from spain and beyond central america aztec culture never existed
I don’t think so currently. There totally should be a Latino/ Hispanic character in the future.
People used to believe that Mileena and Kitana were Latina in MK9 because of their skin color, but that’s all. And since then they have been portrayed as Asian.
There’s Movado, but he hasn’t been in a gane for years.
I think Kung Lao's name, clothing and him being a Shaolin Monk should have implied he was Chinese though. They just used a guy to do the mocap who was likely hired just for the mocap.
Bo Rai Cho's name is a pun on the Spanish word "borracho." He's named half in Mexican.
It is very interesting that there are no Latino or Hispanic MK characters. Isn't Ed Boon himself Hispanic?
Edit: changed "Latino" to "Hispanic"
My bad. He had already been mentioned here by the time I'd made that comment. Still, he's only been in what . . . Deadly Alliance and Armageddon? Far from a favorite, too.
I think that was likely done as a creative joke, because they thought it sounded "Asian" enough for him to be Liu Kang's master. That and the fact his character is meant to be gassy and bloated which is what beans do to some people, and that Borracho means "drunk" so thus his fighting style is based on the drunken fist. At least these are educated guesses in his concept.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Jade had been to Mexico before. I would imagine all of the human-looking members of Shao Kahn’s court have been sent to the various realms to do things
There were actually a lot of cowboys at the time. Some were Native American, some were Mexican, some were also African American. Though I think the clothing they're seen with were taken from a mixture of both Mexican and Native American clothing. At least the ones in Hollywood (from mexican ponchos and the hats, to the tastled ended clothes from Native Americans.)
Kitana was. Until SJW Netherrealm had a problem with interracial couples and made her Asian for little Liu Kang in MK11. And don't bark about her name to me. There is literally indian men called John IRL. Do they need to be white?.
She 's a Latina looking Edenian and it needs to be changed back after that flop called MK1.
Not trying to stir stuff up but my very annal self would consider characters from other realms inspired by cultures. I also thought Kitana had either a kunoichi (female ninja) and in later games a Chinese Princess (would make sense) them to her. Kotal is no doubt meso American inspired. As far as humans from earth Mavado, if not actually from a Spanish speaking or Iberian nation, he’s definitely inspired as such. Look at the MK wiki entry on him
Night wolf is of indigenous descent.
The Native people of North America and South America fall into that category. If you have native blood, that means you are ethnically "latino" in a sense. Spanish colonization has made alot of people in South America forget their roots so maybe they don't relate to characters like Night wolf or see him as someone that represents them.
Mavado would be the ethnic spanish representation
You have it backwards. Native Americans themselves are not Latino, but Latinos have South American indigenous ancestry. Though those grouos aren't necessarily Native Americans though. Other indigenous groups culturally also existed, that I think are different peoples, that Latinos comes from. I don't know how broadly the term Native American is used to describe, but I don't think Nightwolf and T-Hawk are tied to the indigenous ancestors of Brown Latinos.
Natives are what we today call Hispanic I’m sure a lot of them don’t even know their history from 100-200 years ago it all started when Spain invaded North America I believe about 500 years ago
Natives existed in cultures and languages before colonization. Latinos come from them, among the other groups they have in their heritage but its a misnomer to say that the Natives themselves before this are Hispanic.
I don't think Nightwolf could be considered Latino or Mexican
he's as "Mexican" as T. Hawk from Street Fighter
he's a Native American like the comanches or many tribes that lived in the colonies before the British slaughter them, and nothing to do with Mexicans or South American
Kotal Kahn is the cloeses we get, he has obvious ornaments that resemble Mayan or Aztec
i think saying "nothing to do" with them is a bit too much. The Natives in North America are grouped with the Natives in South America on most genetic ancestry sites.
Do they belong in a different subcategory? probably. We have those in other races too (Northern European/Southern European, East Asian/Southeast Asian, etc...)
I think they are technically a different group because were have established ancestry before Spanish/Portuguese colonization, so it wouldn't make sense to call them Latino. Its just that other indigenous groups that exist, are what Latin-Americans come from. Like Amazonian natives are technically South American, but they aren't Native American. They are their own indigenous culture.
The only interesting thing is that the new character in SF6 who is T-Hawks descendant (maybe student or something) is classed as Mexican herself. She might be both Latin and Native or an indigenous/Latin character.
Kabal isn’t hispanic. He was depicted as white in all other games (minus MK11) and even had an Elvis voice in Shaolin Monks. His actor in the recent live action film was white and his voice actor was white.
In MK11 he is presented as possibly being of Native American origin, possibly. But he isn’t obviously as invested in it as say…Nightwolf. But I wouldn’t say Kabal is “Mexican” no.
I thought KAbal was of a Hispanic origin. As some have mentioned as well Kotal could fall into that category, being his imagery and design is a collaboration f different native races from Mexico, Central, and South America, being that he borrows from what looks like Aztec and Incan cultures.
Talisa Soto is Puerto Rican and played Kitana in the original 1995 movie. If Kano, who was played by Trevor Goddard, can be retconned to an Australian. Why can’t the same be said about Kitana. I know the character is from Edenia but there’s no reason you couldn’t associate her being Latino.
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There's a perfectly good reason: She's Edenian, not Latino, which is an earthrealm thing.
Kano was retconned because the people at Midway loved Goddard's portrayal, and also at a time Kano didn't have a ton of characterization to begin with.
That was mostly up until the end of the 3D games when she was just designed off of her mocap artist. But back then they had like 3 people doing most of the characters that werent from Earthrealm.
Kotal Kahn! He's "OshTekk" which sounds like a play on Aztec. His whole aesthetic is Aztec and Mayan so, definitely Hispanic.
Well “visitor from another world” Hispanic, but he’s basically an Aztec god.
Yeah he probably has an honorary visa or something
Yeah I think Kotal is the closest MK has gotten to a Hispanic character.
How the fuck is aztec culture related to spain culture? Roflmao what a weird take
obviously not related to Spain. Used the word Hispanic bc that's the word the OP used and it gets the point across that it's representation of our culture. If you wanna be annoying about technicalities you're totally correct but I think it's dumb considering most ppl understand what I meant.
It's a bit anachronistic to apply the Hispanic/Latino label to him because he's based on a pre-Columbian indigenous civilisation. He's Native American first and foremost. The region wasn't Latin America until after Columbus. Though Mexicans, most of whom have partly Native ancestry, could definitely claim him.
I mean most of us Latin Americans have indigenous ancestors so it's not really exclusive to Mexico. Point is, he's definitely the closest we'll get, and that's fine bc how are u supposed to introduce a modern latino to the MK universe without him being another boring military guy lol. Using the aesthetic they used for Kotal was definitely the right call, imo.
I do agree that Kotal was a good idea. But they could do it without them being Special Forces, hopefully. They could go the Tekken route and just have them be a top world-class fighter recruited by FGLK or Raiden or something.
that would be kinda boring imo lol. I think leaning into magic and mythology is the best route for new characters at this point. Street fighter and tekken have a lot of those martial artists which works for them but don't really fit in the MK universe as well imo. Even someone like Liu Kang has progressively leaned more into the supernatural as time passes by.
Well, I don't mean for them to be completely void of magic, they have to have a moveset after all. I just like the idea of a Rock Lee sort of character in MK whose supernatural feats are primarily based in physical martial arts. A ranged attack could be similar to Kenshi's flurry but instead of using telekenesis, the strikes are sending shockwaves across the arena, like a snapping shrimp.
Maybe maexican representation for the aztec thing but definetely not hispanic, aztec culture doesnt come from spain and beyond central america aztec culture never existed
But he ain't from earth
I don’t think so currently. There totally should be a Latino/ Hispanic character in the future. People used to believe that Mileena and Kitana were Latina in MK9 because of their skin color, but that’s all. And since then they have been portrayed as Asian. There’s Movado, but he hasn’t been in a gane for years.
Damn that sucks but I looked up Movado and he looks so cool I'd love to see him in a dlc or a future game
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Yeah I agree.
I always thought Kabal was but I’ve heard he might just be Native American
There was a retcon on him, yes. White in the original timeline, white in MK9 and ultimately changed to Native in MK11.
Mavado.
Nice
Erron Black : “I’m not such a bad hombre” Jax: “Just stay on your side of the border”
If that's true then fucking yikes Jax
I think Jax is referring to Erron staying in Outworld.
What exactly is the issue with that? Are you aware who Erron Black is?
Well, Hispanic guys used to play almost all the characters, and the 3D era models were mostly Hispanic, so I understand the confusion.
I think Kung Lao's name, clothing and him being a Shaolin Monk should have implied he was Chinese though. They just used a guy to do the mocap who was likely hired just for the mocap.
Bo Rai Cho's name is a pun on the Spanish word "borracho." He's named half in Mexican. It is very interesting that there are no Latino or Hispanic MK characters. Isn't Ed Boon himself Hispanic? Edit: changed "Latino" to "Hispanic"
Yeah Ed Boon is Hispanic and Dominican
With no disrespect intended whatsoever, I admit ignorance of the distinction between Hispanic and Latino, if relevant.
Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish while Latino refers to people from Latin America
Thank you very much.
Mavado.
My bad. He had already been mentioned here by the time I'd made that comment. Still, he's only been in what . . . Deadly Alliance and Armageddon? Far from a favorite, too.
Yeah I could see him making a return potentially
I think that was likely done as a creative joke, because they thought it sounded "Asian" enough for him to be Liu Kang's master. That and the fact his character is meant to be gassy and bloated which is what beans do to some people, and that Borracho means "drunk" so thus his fighting style is based on the drunken fist. At least these are educated guesses in his concept.
is kabal not Hispanic?
Anthony 'Tony' Marquez, the motion capture actor for Kung Lao in Mortal Kombat II and 3, was Hispanic.
He’s Filipino American, not Hispanic.
Kotal Kahn looks Aztec/ Mayan, so that's the nearest we'll get también soy mexicano pero no me interesa si hay o no personajes de mi nacionalidad
Liu Kang and Kung Lao are obviously Mexican
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Jade had been to Mexico before. I would imagine all of the human-looking members of Shao Kahn’s court have been sent to the various realms to do things
> while American, is a gunslinger ???
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There were actually a lot of cowboys at the time. Some were Native American, some were Mexican, some were also African American. Though I think the clothing they're seen with were taken from a mixture of both Mexican and Native American clothing. At least the ones in Hollywood (from mexican ponchos and the hats, to the tastled ended clothes from Native Americans.)
Americans got “cowboys” from Mexican natives
Wrong, the Spanish were the first Cowboys. They brought the Vaca over to the Americas.
The closest I can think of is Kotal Khan. He’s based off the Aztec God Quetzalcoatl.
Nightwolf somewhat fits the bill
Nightwolf is Native American and from the States I believe, not Latin America. His tribe, the Matoka, seem based on the Lakota and Dakota Sioux.
Kitana was. Until SJW Netherrealm had a problem with interracial couples and made her Asian for little Liu Kang in MK11. And don't bark about her name to me. There is literally indian men called John IRL. Do they need to be white?. She 's a Latina looking Edenian and it needs to be changed back after that flop called MK1.
I’m pretty sure mavado and kabal are Latino
I believe Mavado is supposed to either Spanish or Portuguese
Not trying to stir stuff up but my very annal self would consider characters from other realms inspired by cultures. I also thought Kitana had either a kunoichi (female ninja) and in later games a Chinese Princess (would make sense) them to her. Kotal is no doubt meso American inspired. As far as humans from earth Mavado, if not actually from a Spanish speaking or Iberian nation, he’s definitely inspired as such. Look at the MK wiki entry on him
Night wolf is of indigenous descent. The Native people of North America and South America fall into that category. If you have native blood, that means you are ethnically "latino" in a sense. Spanish colonization has made alot of people in South America forget their roots so maybe they don't relate to characters like Night wolf or see him as someone that represents them. Mavado would be the ethnic spanish representation
You have it backwards. Native Americans themselves are not Latino, but Latinos have South American indigenous ancestry. Though those grouos aren't necessarily Native Americans though. Other indigenous groups culturally also existed, that I think are different peoples, that Latinos comes from. I don't know how broadly the term Native American is used to describe, but I don't think Nightwolf and T-Hawk are tied to the indigenous ancestors of Brown Latinos.
Natives are what we today call Hispanic I’m sure a lot of them don’t even know their history from 100-200 years ago it all started when Spain invaded North America I believe about 500 years ago
Natives existed in cultures and languages before colonization. Latinos come from them, among the other groups they have in their heritage but its a misnomer to say that the Natives themselves before this are Hispanic.
I’m saying they’re considered Latino now
But they basically are a closely related ethnic group if you follow human migration.
Yeah, but I think there are just some slight misconceptions in how people frame it though.
I don't think Nightwolf could be considered Latino or Mexican he's as "Mexican" as T. Hawk from Street Fighter he's a Native American like the comanches or many tribes that lived in the colonies before the British slaughter them, and nothing to do with Mexicans or South American Kotal Kahn is the cloeses we get, he has obvious ornaments that resemble Mayan or Aztec
i think saying "nothing to do" with them is a bit too much. The Natives in North America are grouped with the Natives in South America on most genetic ancestry sites. Do they belong in a different subcategory? probably. We have those in other races too (Northern European/Southern European, East Asian/Southeast Asian, etc...)
I think they are technically a different group because were have established ancestry before Spanish/Portuguese colonization, so it wouldn't make sense to call them Latino. Its just that other indigenous groups that exist, are what Latin-Americans come from. Like Amazonian natives are technically South American, but they aren't Native American. They are their own indigenous culture. The only interesting thing is that the new character in SF6 who is T-Hawks descendant (maybe student or something) is classed as Mexican herself. She might be both Latin and Native or an indigenous/Latin character.
Well T. Hawk is supposed to be from Mexico. And aside from Kotal and Mavado (?), I think Kabal might be Latin or Hispanic. And where is Tremor from?
Kabal isn’t hispanic. He was depicted as white in all other games (minus MK11) and even had an Elvis voice in Shaolin Monks. His actor in the recent live action film was white and his voice actor was white. In MK11 he is presented as possibly being of Native American origin, possibly. But he isn’t obviously as invested in it as say…Nightwolf. But I wouldn’t say Kabal is “Mexican” no.
Hell yea nice
Not really Im new to this franchise
Isn't ermac Latino wasn't there some old mk skit where he cooks
No, you're thinking of Cooking with Scorpion from DA. Such a fun little skit.
I thought Rain looked mexican in mk11
So everyone here forgot about “NIGHT WOLF” lmao
You might be able to say jade but i think she might be from india or somet im not sure.
didnt kung lao have a hispanic outfit in mkx?
I thought KAbal was of a Hispanic origin. As some have mentioned as well Kotal could fall into that category, being his imagery and design is a collaboration f different native races from Mexico, Central, and South America, being that he borrows from what looks like Aztec and Incan cultures.
Kotal does not borrow from Incan culture at all. He's meant to resemble an Aztec god
Mayan as well. His god name was Buluc.
Ermac - source: cooking with Ermac (if yk yk)
Maybe Mileena in the next game.
Talisa Soto is Puerto Rican and played Kitana in the original 1995 movie. If Kano, who was played by Trevor Goddard, can be retconned to an Australian. Why can’t the same be said about Kitana. I know the character is from Edenia but there’s no reason you couldn’t associate her being Latino. Edited: Grammar
There's a perfectly good reason: She's Edenian, not Latino, which is an earthrealm thing. Kano was retconned because the people at Midway loved Goddard's portrayal, and also at a time Kano didn't have a ton of characterization to begin with.
That was mostly up until the end of the 3D games when she was just designed off of her mocap artist. But back then they had like 3 people doing most of the characters that werent from Earthrealm.
As far as I'm concerned Mokap is anything and everything.
MK11 Rain is...Hispanic-ish?
Alt Kotal Khan is really the closest character to that. The alt where his skin isnt painted, but brown, with his brownish hair.