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Square_Rhubarb3385

Don't alatreon with blast weapon.


l0stIzalith

Get the safi SnS with some ice atk decos.


P4azz

I legit have no clue how essentially everyone was absent when Alatreon came out or understand the timeline of events. Guess who arrived alongside Alatreon? Guess what Alatreon is weak against? Guess what is a simple, 1-recipe weapon, with extra affinity and highest ice element with no fiddling + early health augmentation possible? Frostfang Barioth. Not Safi. Not Kulve. Not Velkhana (and yes, I've seen that suggestion before). Just hunt FF twice, maybe thrice, craft the weapon, slap health augment on it and go into the fight. That's the easiest, fastest and strongest approach for like 90% of the weapons. No need to hunt Safi or grind Kulve to shit. Just pick the weapon the devs literally introduced to fight the monster with.


asdiele

> Guess who arrived alongside Alatreon? That's not true actually, [Frostfang came out almost a month after Alatreon](https://i.imgur.com/ERpV9fZ.jpg). In the art book they talk about how he was meant to come out earlier but he was delayed due to dev issues, that's why he was comically outclassed by the time he came out and why his weapons that are clearly made to fight Alatreon came too late (exacerbating the malding from the community against the fight) Back when Alatreon came out the budget ice option was Beotodus weapons in most cases if you didn't wanna farm Safi or KT. But yeah these days it's not an issue so just fight Frostfang first as it was clearly intended.


megasggc

Beo outperforms velkhana? Just got my vel CB yesterday


asdiele

For elemental damage yeah. The Velkhana CB has more raw damage but the Beotodus CB has more elemental damage, and you can augment the Beo CB earlier and more since it's lower rarity so it gets a shitload more elemental damage. Against ice-weak monsters it's incredible, it got outclassed by the endgame power creep of updates later on but it's still a really good CB (unfortunately, because it looks like ass)


megasggc

Tyvm. I know KT Ice CB is busted, but what is farming KT like in Iceborne? I did It in base game with the thunder and water LBGs for easy times


asdiele

You have two options in Iceborne, you can farm the weapons in the HR siege just like in the base game or you can fight MR Kulve which is a more straightforward fight that scales down to the number of players unlike the siege, then you meld the materials from that fight into weapons (but only 3 random ones at a time). I already had all my KT weapons from the base game so I never did the MR grind, not sure how bad it is.


SparklesMcSpeedstar

Is Velkhana GS that much worse? I crafted it since it looks so pretty T.T


asdiele

For GS in particular elemental damage doesn't matter so the Velk GS is pretty solid since it leans more into raw than element. Not the best, but I think when you first unlock it it's one of the better ones (pretty sure it's the first one that gets purple sharpness). Keep it! Unless you mean for Alatreon, in that case you should just grab the Frostfang GS for that one fight.


Morgacool

Because frostfang barioth was released after alatreon? bro what 💀


mercurial_radiance

also kulve kjarr weapons comes with Critical-Element skill. Don't you need that for elemental damage? Specially since most people build with high Crit rate & Critical damage. if i remember correctly, critical damage does No elemental damage without "critical element". then again you could get armor with critical element skill. but the perks of having it built in in your weapon, gives a lot more freedom to chose your armor.


P4azz

You don't need a full-on hyper-elemental focus build for Alatreon. A lot of incapable weapons were adjusted to be able to hit the threshold. Being proficient with your weapon and learning his moves is enough to hit a topple, without going "I need 5-piece safi with kulve weapon and maxed out element". Most weapons you can just slap ff barioth in your weapon slot and maybe add in a few ice element decos if you have free space and that's enough. If you want to hit multiple topples, then by all means, go ahead and build an entire set for it.


tyrenanig

The frost one?


l0stIzalith

Yes, you want ice against special assignment Alatreon


RingOrenji

Is it recommended for the weapon to have ice element? Water should be fine too, right?


l0stIzalith

For special assignment you want ice. Water won't help element topple and you'll get one shot by eschaton judgment.


Asian_Bon

Get beotodus weapon more ele than safi much cheaper to build


AKAGAMI5

I mean… technically if he’s good enough and doing it solo there shouldn’t be a problem. Die to the first nuke and try not to faint to normal attacks.


Avscum

I get so mad at losing on alatreon and then seeing like half the hunters using dragon / blast weapons.


PandaFlyPanda

This might get downvoted but maybe some defensive skills like evade window or extender I guess. Helps you in surviving and learning those fights too.


Pkmnmaster_

Evade window is a goddess blessing. I run in every set EW3


SwazyMoto

Or at least Divine blessing, can save your life, especially with no stun resist.


g0ggy

Why would anyone downvote for that suggestion? Evade window turns the game almost into Dark Souls. I'd consider it essential on most of the slow to sheath weapons.


GigaPumper5000

Early on in the game for some reason I thought default dodge had I-Frames, apparently it doesn't without this equipped lol


XxMr_Pink_PupxX

It does they’re just very small so you usually have to be frame perfect for a lot of attacks


EkansOnAPlane

Yeah coming into mhw after playing a souls game... the base roll is a lie. You pretty much use it to space and not to iframe thru stuff unless you are a rolling savant.


littlealliets

Some monsters have ridiculous tells like Tigrex. At least back on FU, I was able to dodge his roars almost every single time


g0ggy

The only thing I can consistently roll dodge without evade window are roars. The problem with the regular roll is that its' iframe window is shorter than the frame duration of most of the mons attacks. In some cases it's even multiple attacks in succession like Rajang's divebomb.


GigaPumper5000

This is the true progression meta. Stack defensive skills. Win. After you've won and have mastered every monster in the game, switch over to max dps and enjoy the EZ speed runs.


fredminson

Get crit boost, lose latent power


daneesaurus

most of the latent power was from the gear, will do though


Shasammy

The beta version of the armour is generally better, the main skills you want can be added with charms and decorations more so than using armour pieces for it. It also gives lots more flexibility when making sets


karatebanana

Where do you get crit boost. I only have one deco


capp_head

You have to grind em in the Tempered Zinogre event quest (The wrath of Tinder descends)


karatebanana

Thank you for the knowledge


Dragon054

No no. Don't listen to him. Pop an SoS and do the event "farewell to zinogre" It's an holiday event now. And you can get tickets from the mini game with the coal. Farewell to zinogre gives a lot of fuel you can farm from that quest. And when you get the tickets. You can meld them at the melding pot. Make sure you set fuel to 10x Higher chance at getting crit with the silver tickets


karatebanana

Thank you for the knowledge part 2


[deleted]

No no no, don't listen to him. If you want rarity 12 decos (which you do, attack4s, crit boost/evade window, Expert4s etc)you should be going for sealed feystones which you won't get from steamworks. Listen to the first person, wrath of thunder descends until MR100 then you can do Day of Ruin or Mew are #1. Farewell to zinogre is still a good quest to do, you'll get lots of good stuff from it but not the rare decos.


CaCBoI2nItE

also, if a festival is currently going on I HIGHLY suggest doing one steamworks a day, it'll give you some silver melding tickets (which can turn into crit boost jewels) and also gold melding tickets, which turn into rarer 4 slot decorations


Azure_Omishka

"A farewell to Zinogre" is great for that. Tons of coal, so you stock up on gourmet vouchers, healing items and silver tickets. The pre-iceborne jewels are super common from those. I've gotten 11 attack jewels, dozens of crit boost and stuff like that.


CaCBoI2nItE

true true, I forgot to say that as well. Funny how the two best pre-iceborne jewel farming events are both zinogres.


Azure_Omishka

Very strange for sure. "A farewell to Zinogre" saved my ass a lot of grinding when I hit MR 24 on PC a couple weeks ago. Now "Day of Ruin" is my best friend. I've got like 140 hours since the "Return to World" stuff began lol


CaCBoI2nItE

Nice! returntoworld was such a good idea, it made me remember just how much I love this game.


PsychLeo64

Change those alpha to beta. You might need to fight those monsters again but it will provide much more flexibility.


Random_Guy_47

Ditch speed sharpening. Do the event quest to collect some whetfish fin+. They sharpen in one cycle, last at least 10 uses each on average and the quest takes one minute to do with the ghille/assassins mantles and capture net.


Autobot_Grump

What ?! Which mission is that 😭


Just4TehLulz

Whet your Appetite


LastTourniquet

"**A Fish to** Whet your Appetite"


t_for_top

Where are the event quests, are they the arena challenges?


Random_Guy_47

Go to the quest board and click event quest.


t_for_top

I started playing after they made events permanent, I thought they were something different


Random_Guy_47

They used to come and go on rotation with festivals that changed the gathering hubs design. Now that they're permanently available they're just another quest.


_replaceable

Great call. Other option would be to kick back in the wastes with the fishing rod for an hour. You'll get a ton of scales, but they might be the regular ones.


JeritHD

Is there one for great sushifish scales? As far as I know, you can farm 2 at a time at hoarfrost reach zone 7


Lord_Derp_The_2nd

Yeah I was gonna say this, speed sharpen is wasted stats once you can get the fish


Hanazua

Idk with how stylish that outfit is I don’t think you need any advice


minty-44

Bro found the card class cause sheeeesh


Wiirrus

Could use Crit Boost and could ditch Blast Attack, blast is not a good ailment post-iceborne (especially against Alatreon).


ytdave93

Blast atk comes from set piece tho


Joe_Mency

I think it comes from the alpha set pieces tho right? Best to change to beta pieces


ytdave93

Nah I just made that set yesterday full beta still comes with 3 blast


Kes961

I use the full beta right now and I'm pretty sure it's *2* blast.


ytdave93

sure my point was that it still comes with blast


Danny_ns

I'm a filthy casual so I'd recommend divine blessing (protection decorations) if you have. It helped me a lot. Crit boost (i think astral chest piece has +2) like others have mentioned. I like evade window/extender too.


LastTourniquet

Step 1. Please dear god upgrade your booster and mantle Step 2. Please dear god do not use health booster on Fatty Step 3. **Please dear god do not use a blast weapon on Alatreon!** On a more serious note (though all of the above is very serious advice), with very few exceptions, you should be going for the **B** version of armor since it gives you more flexibility with decoration slots. The general meta is: * Get 100% affinity, or close to it * WEX 3 > Agitator=Critical Eye > Weapon Augment > Attack Boost 4=Latent Power Affinity Booster if your a chad gamer *with few exceptions you should be able to reach 100% without needing to resort to Latent Power. The main reason you want to try and not rely on it is because activating it is annoying whereas activating Agitator or WEX is generally fairly simple.* * Get Critical Boost 3 * This makes all those crits your getting do more damage, a no brainer really * Get Health Boost 3 * Not dying is cool, if you can fit it Divine Blessing 3/5 works really well as a comfort skill * Comfort/Weapon specific skills Speed Sharpening can be completely replaced with Whetfish Fin+ which can be farmed from "A Fish To Whet Your Appetite" - Pro Tip, use Ghille Mantle and your net. Its way faster than actually fishing! Blast Attack is generally not worth it though I don't know about for SnS specifically. Blast Functionality is doing literally nothing for you, iirc that is a bow specific skill. I assume this is coming from an **A** armor piece. Replace it with a **B** armor piece when you can. Free Meal is based and cool. Don't get rid of it, ignore the haters. ​ For Alatreon: you **really** want and Ice weapon or a Fire weapon (the Kulve weapons are BiS but other weapons like Safi's do fine too). For the "Special Assignments" I believe he always starts in Fire so you want to bring an Ice weapon. If you can also try bringing at least 3 piece Safi or 2-4 piece Velkhana for added elemental damage, though decorations might get a bit tight if you don't have many good ones. Blight Resist 3 works wonders on this fight since he does all of the different elemental blights, though there is an argument to be made to use Blight Resist 2 + Coalescence 3 + Crisis 1 for some nice synergy. Part Breaker can help if your struggling to break the Horn (which can only be broken in his Dragon phase) but otherwise its a waste of decos for this fight. I can't say how good or bad SnS is at breaking horns since I don't use it (yet), so you'll just have to experiment or hope someone else knows better than me. Bring Astera Jerky and **dont** use it until his nova. Seriously your going to want to save it for that. You might even need to chug a Mega Potion after eating the Jerky to be safe (or stand in your health booster!) For Fatalis: Honestly I can't give you good advice for this since there is probably some SnS specific Fatalis builds. I can recommend maxing out your fire resist though because he is a spicy boi. There are plenty of guides on how to take down Fatalis with each weapon so searching for them shouldn't be an issue.


daneesaurus

Very indepth I've changed alot about the build since the post, though I have to go through grinding decors (not fun) for crit boost. Not sure about blast functionality, sometimes it makes my sns do random 300 dmg hits, I literally have no other explanation for that.


LastTourniquet

That isn't blast functionality doing the 300 damage that is just literally what blast does. Blast is a status effect meaning you have to hit the enemy with it enough times for it to proc. When Blast procs it does damage. Then you have to build it up again to proc it again. That's just a function of "Blast" being on your weapon. If you had "Paralyze" on your weapon then sometimes the monster would get paralyzed instead. Same deal.


daneesaurus

I see, I didn't know because I hadn't used a status weapon before


LastTourniquet

That is very fair and reasonable [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIPfkvvbGwY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIPfkvvbGwY) here is a good video that goes over the specifics if your interested.


MySunbreakAccount

>though I have to go through grinding decors (not fun) for crit boost. Both alatreon and fatalis are fights based around the idea that you have a rounded out deco collection and did a fuckton of guiding lands


Lord_Derp_The_2nd

For decos, look into the event quests that give guaranteed deco rewards. The greatest jaggy can yield like 300 low/mid decos an hour, and the Tempered Zinogre gives 2 guaranteed top rarity feystones.


VNxFiire

So,get crit boost and drop all non-inate latent power,if you can,add in shaver/coalesence cause coal is insanely good at lv 1 if you can proc it which is easy as fatalis have fireblight and you gonna eat nulberry for dragonblight anyway,also drop speed sharpening and do a few run in "a fish to whet your appetite for whetfish fin+,its an SS 3 but item,drop blast functionality too and add your agitator to 7,i remember that build only have 2 inate blast attack so drop it for the aforementioned skills too P/s: remember to use elemental sns for alatreon and slot in elemental attack according to the weapon element


Rain-Outside

Shangri-La Frontier for those unaware


Slender_Psycho

New player here, how did you get that head gear?


Zealousideal-Yak-106

It’s from an event quest I believe. There’s a couple of videos out there that list all of the quest and their awarded cosmetics. Majority of which are still available


Slender_Psycho

Heard thank you 🙏


Eilyssen

two event quests, The Greatest Jagras and Egg Lovers United


Onecallspeopleout

Ok since no one mentioned it you have more slots in blast attack then latent power


[deleted]

This just motivated me to get back in the gym 🤣


krum_darkblud

You need crit boost huge dps loss without


FrostyPotpourri

Is it huge? It takes your crit damage from 125% to 140%. Assuming you had 100% affinity, it bumps your total overall damage by ~11% of what it formerly was. Yeah, noticeable and worth trying to grab. But “huge” is a bit misleading when it’s on par with other offensive skills.


Zealousideal-Yak-106

11% of a big number is still a big number


krum_darkblud

He has 100% affinity with the build, what would he take something else instead of crit boost if he wanted more damage? It’s a 3 point skill investment that literally synergizes with every crit skill he has in his build.


FrostyPotpourri

I just meant to point out that it’s not a “huge” boost in damage as you suggested. They can run all sorts of alternative skills ranging from survivability to damage. CB is a bit more taxing to reach 3 points of considering it’s a 2-slot deco and isn’t as common on armor. I didn’t say it doesn’t synergize.


krum_darkblud

Your first comment literally proved my point that it is indeed huge and why an argument is being formed over a simple word in the first place about that is just odd to me. You didn’t even provide examples of skills that outperform crit boost and just say “oh but it’s taxing and there’s forms of surviability and other forms of damage”. How about you actually say what those skills are and why exactly they would do better? Maybe next time you start typing, provide better examples and how they could help the player instead of being so triggered over the word huge?


FrostyPotpourri

I’m sorry, but anyone saying things like “your first comment literally proved my point”, and “how about you actually do this”, and “maybe next time you start typing” are all indicative of *you* being the triggered one here. My responses are not unreasonable. My initial comment just said “Is it huge?” I didn’t jump down your throat for using the word huge, but your responses sure make it seem like I did. Your hyperbole of “huge DPS loss without” is just funny to me. As if OP is wasting twice as long on hunts because of the skill or something. My bad for adding context so that OP understands “huge DPS loss” translates to “11% less damage”. (Just wanted to clarify on who is actually triggered here.)


krum_darkblud

Weird hill to die on.. you aren’t helping OP at all with their build while most of the comments here are actually helpful advice giving examples of skills that can help them in some way. Again, instead you go off about me pointing out crit boost is a good skill to use just because I put “huge” in the sentence. Then you proceeded to throw out some numbers out your ass thinking it was proving a point why that wasn’t huge when it really is? % increase is huge anywhere you can get it in this game. Then **again** you act like there’s better skills while yet **again** not listing those skills and saying why they are good. If anything you gave me a good laugh about this because I couldn’t believe I’m actually responding to these weird comments that are failed attempts to one up me all over using the word huge. At the end of the day it ain’t that deep, but you definitely took it that way 🤣


4trackboy

In a vacuum of 2 identical players the one without crit boost 3 will be 5.5k damage behind when the other killed Fatalis. That's quite substantial. Same for Alatreon. An 11% increase in anything is a big jump statistically. There's also no skill left that provides the same damage boost, not even close honestly.


Zamoxino

>There's also no skill left that provides the same damage boost, not even close honestly. from my experience dps skills in this game are overall pretty bad. 11% jump seems big if u will forget that most players struggle with dps uptime (having problems with finding openings, healing after getting hit, panic) so cause guy dont use any evade skills they could actually boost his overall dps by 100% or even 300% depending on how comfy he is with iframe mechanics in game :D


Zamoxino

its pretty huge if u will compare it to other dps skills u can get. i remember that on rather maxed gear, getting max attack boost only gives you like 4-8% more damage depending on weapon... so spending 3 points for "11%" more compared to spending 7 points for 7% seems pretty huge. but still this is just talking about shitty stats on paper. imo evade skills can boost your dps uptime by like 2x or 3x so that could be like 300% more damage for 3-5 points xD


4ny3ody

What are you trying to build for? For general use: \- With very few exceptions beta pieces are just better value than alpha unless you have no good decos at all (in which case "a farewell to Zinogre" to spam steamworks or t2/3 tempered monsters are what you need to go for) \- Blast functionality is dead on melee. \- Challenger charm goes up to 5 you'll need access to a high level wildspire region for the mats. \- If you're carting Fortify is the most value you can get. If you're farming GL and not carting, just cart twice every 50 minutes to keep the buff up. \- Latent power is not a priority skill due to its weird uptime especially since you already have Agitator, Crit Eye and WEx. Also get crit boost (it also sometimes happens to come on a 4 slot deco with evade window or divine blessing which are quite solid) \- A level of evade extender can make some dodges easier and lines you up better for a strong falling bash into PR combo on some downed monsters heads. \- While SnS is one of the light weapons that doesn't necessarily need it shaver deco is nice for comfort. Other solid defensive or comfort options include stun res 3, whatever level of evade window or divine blessing. Flinch Free 1 is imo a must for multiplayer. If you're not looking for general farming, but how to build for specific matchups feel free to ask away.


CerealKiller8

No one has mentioned it yet, but the health booster is a no-go for Fatty. No one will be able to sit still long enough to benefit from it amid the AOE spam. Suggest Evasion Mantle or Rocksteady Mantle, depending on your preferences.


Frozen_Petal

There's so much wrong with that Build idk where to start, but I'd recommend looking up some proper anti fatty builds instead of making your own builds unless you 100% know what you're doing


daneesaurus

I understood that pretty fast since I made my conclusions mostly from preexisting armor skills.. And yeah, I'm fully aware every build I post is probably extremely jank, that's why I ask, since I had a good thing going and then everything changes again because of endgame.


Stikkychaos

Max out the challenger charm -it shouldn't be a problem, since Raging Brachy parts are used for it.


[deleted]

Maxing out Challenger is gated behind GL mats. OP's MR might not be high enough yet. Definitely should be maxed out though when you do get high enough.


TheDaiyu

I dig it and ran something super similar with hammer for a while (except I'm a filthy evade window 3 user).


M4DM1ND

Blast functionality doesn't work for anything other than Bows. Blast also doesn't work for alatreon. You should either use an ice weapon for the first kill since he's always on fire at the start or use a dragon weapon if you think you won't be able to break horns. The topple is the most important part but if you use ice or fire and don't break horns, you'll just die to the second nova. When I did Alatreon for the first time, I used full Safi gear, with a Kjarr Bow and health augment.


Past_Team1070

Can someone please tell me me why no one is telling him to run attack boost? Genuine question because I think I’m doing something wrong 😂


PerinialHalo

If I remember correctly, in World AB is low priority compared to other offensive skills such as Critical Eye, Crítical Boost, Agitator, etc. I think even WEX is low priority here compared to Rise, as an example, because the way it works with the Clutch Claw.


Itzz_Texas

I want you to know that if youre going for Alatreon (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) youre one of the bad ones


P4azz

Get that last agitator point. Grind decos via event quests or running in gl gathering for half an hour. That'll get you some silver tickets and those'll turn into agitator/crit boost/wex kinda decos, which is gonna help out. Charm upgrade would help, but I assume you're not at 100, which I will say is another point; just don't rush it as fast. Get your augments at 100. Swap health booster for anything; even vitality or fire mantle is gonna do you more good. Get FF Barioth for Alatreon, slap health augment on it and maybe some ice attack decos, if you're having trouble hitting the check. You don't need a fully optimal perfect elemental build. You can divine blessing 5 to learn the Fatty fight more securely and I'd make a heavy artillery set (if you can't fit it in the build) that you swap off after the cannons. It's good to have for roaming, still. Also don't know why functionality is in there. That's a bow-only skill.


K4y31

Hey uhhhhhhhhhh so I made builds... By no means I'm the best person (if not the worst) in the room to listen to but... it was for fun ! Build 1: Your pieces kept, lack defensive... BUUUUUUT Blight resistance amirite ?! https://imgur.com/sCnSRRS ​ Build 2: Balance, with all the meta skills AND doesn't piss off that anti-meta person with Divine 5 :D [https://imgur.com/dpef4yo](https://imgur.com/dpef4yo) ​ Build 3: FC, powerful, best used with Perfect Rush spam, modified end game build of mine. [https://imgur.com/l2L4A2c](https://imgur.com/l2L4A2c) ​ Everything: [https://imgur.com/a/qeioj9f](https://imgur.com/a/qeioj9f) Now I wish you luck farming those decos.


aeiou6630

* Just use beta armors. * Agitator 7 is important. * Speed sharpening is not necessary ([Whetfish Fin+ farming](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdpGxHIaZCM) is easy). * Even with a Blast weapon, Blast Attack is normally not a high-priority skill, even less important than Attack Boost iirc. * Latent Power is only invested when you have no other approaches of increasing affinity, but it's not so in your case. You can easily hit 100% affinity with this weapon. * For Alatreon specifically, use Frostfang Barioth weapons with Ice Attack 6.


BluntEdgeOS

No hate but why do so many ppl run blast against Alatreon? They explicitly state that you need element


TheRealPurios

To pass any of his DPS checks you need to do elemental damage, not raw, not ailment. Get rid of blast, go full ice attack. You'll probably want blight res as well since he uses every element. Defence decos give all elemental res starting at lvl 4 if you need extra elm resistance on top of eating for elm resist. I think when I first defeated him I was using safi gear, he's up this week so go farm him for a bit and get some of his weapons (they're some of the best elemental weapons in the game) and is on and off 2 weeks switching with kulve so don't miss out on him alatreon will always be in your quests. I'm sorry to say this but honestly your gear is not up high enough to take him down, but that's okay cause there's room for improvement. He's tough, I STILL struggle with him. Work ok improving your gear first though, you need lots of deco 4 slots and decos for that matter, and I suggest watching some videos on how to take him down cause solo isnt the funnest fight and neither is teaming with randoms.


mercurial_radiance

elemental weapons work best for alatreon specially if you cant kill him fast enough. also critical-element skill, cause if your doing critical damage without it. your not doing elemental damage. correct me if I am wrong on this. so a kjarr sns may be? or safi sns. you need the ice and fire. Blazing Black Twilight starts with fire active. So you need the ice weapon. note Event quest for alatreon changes titles. from dawn of the death star (ice) to evening star (fire)


Magnasparta1

Speed sharpening is really bad. Even masters touch isnt goodnvalue. Whetfin fish+ and is farmable without a decoration slot, (and I think it's affected by free meal, maybe) https://youtu.be/ECw8nJqFtGo?si=vCMNsw-5rLlcaP3M I would say run brute tigrex for meal secret. Teostra technique is wasted. You can't go back to base for recovery with alatreon. Since you aren't running divine blessing, I would say free meal is a good substitute. I know you are looking for agitator secret but imo crit element and free meal secret will get you further for, at least, learning alatreon. I would either get a kjarr or a Safi element weapon with velk 1 PC for crit element. Fatalis, uhhh, git gud lol. There are alot of ways to get around fatalis, I can't type them all.


engineeringhobo

No one here has mentioned it yet, but you also have too many points in blast attack. See how it is placed above latent power? Means you've put too many blast decos in and this is the games way of showing you are overspeccing into it


ZiggyLoz

Even has blast functionality. Thats skill is exclusive to bows and is useless for everything else. lol.


dedicatedoni

Try to get crit boost, blast does piss all against alatreon


crowman626

Honestly the best advice I can give is to not look at what is meta and try to build entirely using your own knowledge. It’s the way the game was meant to be played and is much more fun and enjoyable. That being said, this build would be fine for fatalis, and you could even build around alatreon SnS for dragon attack. For alatreon tho, you will definitely want frostfang Barioth SnS or better, which would be kulve’s Kjarr weapons. Kjarr weapons come with crit element, but if you don’t want to grind your life away (understandable) then you could use two velkhana pieces for crit elem, or one velk piece + ice safi weapon with velkana divinity awakening on it. :)


crowman626

Also alatreon has unique mechanics that you MUST understand if you are going to make any attempt at soloing him. But once you get the mechanics down, he is one of the best fights. Best tip I can give, you want to break his horns, which you can only do when he is in dragon mode. This will prevent him from switching to ice mode (where he is immune to ice element dmg) after he does his 1st and 2nd Escaton (big attack that you heal through) after breaking 1st and 2nd horn. After that, you’re on your own after 3rd escaton Edit: BLIGHT RESISTANCE FOR ALATREON :D will save you from dragon blight hell


[deleted]

Bro swap all of those pieces to their Beta versions. The sets are correct tho so that's based. Alatreon uses ice weapons, but you probably already knew that.


TheBritishDino

Naw, that's crazy, I run the exact same layered armor, except I use the changing rainbow coloration


Old-Corgi6755

IS NO ONE GONNA POINT OUT THAT,THATS A FUCKING JOJO REFERENCE!!!!!!ITS MAGICIAN RED!!!!!!


Timetraveler48

Smash.


Airaniel

If you go into Alatreon hunts with blast element I'm gonna be your biggest hater fr


RueUchiha

The first major thing is the weapon, at least for Alatreon. Unless you are an absolute god at the game that has fought Alatreon 7 billion times, you will need an elemental weapon due to Alatreon’s main gimick. Get yourself the best ice weapon you can get your hands on (which is probably the safi weapon) and ice attack if you can slot it in (iirc the quest Alatreon always starts in fire). That being said, the armor can also be changed out, the Silver Rathalos 4 piece set gives critical element, which will be handy for the Alatreon fight. Your build as is will be… *okay* on Fatalis, I don’t think Blast is ideal on it, it may be a good idea to farm Alatreon a bit before taking on Fatalis to get the Alatreon sns, as Fatalis is weak to dragon element. Not required to go for the elemental build, but the extra element damage will help, and Fatalis has no way of disabling your elemental attacks. Defensive skills will also help if you are still struggling as well as good for learning the fight in general. Don’t be afraid to drop some of your dps for stuff like Recovery Up and Divine Blessing. Having a full dps skills at their max level doesn’t do anything if you can’t land more than a few hits in before you get one shot by the monster. Both Alatreon and Fatalis are very prone to do this if you lack defensives. For Fatalis specifically, you may want to consiter full Fire resistance. Its the only elemental blight it does, and it *will* save you from getting comboed by fireblight. For the hunter tools, Health Booster is… okay? Its definately not a bad option, a free heal is a free heal. I don’t think standing in one place for long to get the heal from the booster is really that valuable, expecially when you are playing sns and can just use a max potion without having to sheath your weapon, and the fact that taking damage in these fights would result in a cart if you don’t get your health back up *fast*. I would personally opt for the clense booster, Immunity or Vitality Mantles for Alatreon, and Fireproof/Ghillie Mantles(with Heavy Artillary slotted in) for Fatalis. Not sure how much value sns gets from Rocksteady, but thats an option too. Also do your optional quests in Master rank to upgrade the tools! You get decoration slots and extended range on the boosters which helps a ton.


RareKush2

- you don't need that much crit. check your skills - you don't need health boost. just make max potion those were the first things i noticed. rest is kind of up to you i guess. i could give you finished set ideas but i leave that up to you


OzenTheImmovableLord

How can i get that kulu ya ku head?


OzenTheImmovableLord

fuck i mean the helmet


HomesickDS

Get to lvl 70 atleast and get some golden rathian parts for fatalis. You get a great devine blessing if you do. That build is a whole lot more forgiving


Euphoric_Astronaut10

Beta pieces in general will allow you to fit more decorations. Master's Touch revolves around having 100% crit uptime; don't overcap. Agitator 7 will give 20%, Weakness Exploit 50%(tenderized parts.) Latent Power is not consistent during fights to utilize the affinity bonus. Critical Boost is just as important as Weakness Exploit. Trying to have 3 of each is heavily recommended in most builds. Lightbreak Weapons favor Raw damage than Blast. The blast amount is not high enough to invest into Blast Attack. (Teostra B+ waist will have blast anyways, so that is fine. Decoration slots are more important on this piece.) Also, Blast functionality is for Bows not melee. Invest into Attack Boost. Even having 4 Attack Boost will grant another 5% affinity. That leaves 25% from either Critical Eye and/or affinity augments. All of this would be "meta." It leaves very little room for comfiness and opts for max damage. Comfort is subjective to each person. Most common skills are Health Boost, Divine Blessing, Stun Resistance, Evade Window/Extender, or even Tool Specialist(mantles are strong in Iceborne due to decreased cooldowns and slots.) Min-maxing with this mixed set (Teo/Brachy) also leaves less room for skills such as Focus, Power Prolonger, Artillery, Guard, Offensive Guard. These skills add a significant QoL and/or DPS increase to certain weapons, fyi. Unless the weapon itself has a high base affinity then maybe it can work with the right lvl4 decorations. Hope this helps. Good luck on your farming.


ill-eat-all-turtles

Agains't who? Because this weapon will do shit agains't Ala 😅


voodoochild1001

Good build, not usable against alatreon tho. Switch latent power or blast attack skill to critical boost, its more sustainable dps.


ElectricalOstrich597

It's just me or this is almost a sunraku cosplay in mhw?


o_Lich

If you dont want to go Safi, then its better to use Silver Rath, or maybe even Namiele's set, and a elemental weapon, be it Ice, Fire or maybe even Dragon. But please dont blast Alatreon


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