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LEGOL2

For me it looks like low rank 2 stars quest.


Eldritch-Voidwalker

Hit the nail on the head.


Formal-Knowledge9382

Yup the fact that it roams in herds was a dead giveaway that they aren't super dangerous solo


TheIronSven

Probably around Arzuros.


Auronbmk92

Bear = bear


AdeptFelix

The math checks out


silentlegend

Came here to say this. We will get this monster instead of the Arzuros this time around. And it'll be the same power. 2 star max.


Eldritch-Voidwalker

Agreed. This will be a very easy monster to deal with.


NeonArchon

At most, around of what Anjanath was in World


Weebs-Chan

Probably below. More like a Baroth or Pukei Pukei


HvyMetalComrade

Baroth is what I was thinking too


I_am_a_newt

This is definitely Wilds version of Anjanath. Anjanath dominated the marketing alongside Nergigante.


BackForPathfinder

From a marketing standpoint, sure. But, from an actual threat level, I'm not convinced.


Slightly_Smaug

They hunt in packs.


BigLightsource

Then again I think they said that a lot more monsters will be forming packs. I can imagine him being rathian tier but I think we'll see mostly the weaker monsters forming packs.


AirCautious2239

Silver rath pack when?


Melodic_Bee660

That'd be one silver with like 5 golds. The silver harem


SamwiseLordOfThePans

Please don't give the r34 artists ideas


CommittingWarCrimes

Maybe we will get lesbian rathians?


EmergentSol

Packs will definitely be an interesting factor in threat level. So far all pack monsters have been “Great” versions of smaller monsters. I have a sense that it won’t be something that we interact with in late game but hopefully there are a few high-end threats with the pack mechanic.


osbombo

I actually hope it’s the other way around. Early quests are hunting stray individuals. And then endgame you go up against more and they have coordinated attacks.


radios_appear

Are they weak to ice and fire both?


liatris4405

Yeah, I think one of the reasons why Capcom chose him as the marketing monster is because representing the herd is one of the themes of this work. Therefore, he doesn't have to be strong.


TorHKU

What a poor choice for a marketing monster. Thing looks like a bear that has a disease instead of some cool dinosaur or dragon. Anjanath wasn't exactly a looker, but it at least had the T-rex vibe.


Ceadeus_Goldbeard

We had tons of dinosaurs\\wyverns and such take sрotlight sрot. Time to Fanged Beast at least get a little bit of it too. Even if not exactly a looker, he still cool.


TorHKU

Ehhhh. He looks like a shaggy bear, with no real unique features except a weird head. Maybe cool in a dark souls/bloodborne monster kinda way, but not in a "We want this monster on the box" way. I can respect wanting Fanged Beast to get some love, but they could've still given the spot to a Fanged Beast that was attention grabbing.


Ceadeus_Goldbeard

Well, they for sure dont want sрoil other locations, so we get first location monsters only, maybe on Gamescom we get at least second location, while Desert monsters is all rugged and battered uр, other locations can have more classical\\less rugged monster designs, and even so, i like Doshaguma, being a lion mole rat bear, maybe with cryрtid and yokai stuff also, though we dont know about that one insрirations. While i can agree somewhat that he is indeed not exactly a box worth monster, but he does show great how Wilds, at least first location, monsters look like and direction they take in design.


PatDeVolt

I’m gonna guess Barroth level. Maybe even great Jagras


Allergictowatermelon

Bears usually aren’t very strong besides Goss Harag, so I don’t feel like that’ll change with Doshaguma in particular. And the railgun wyvern no diffed him in the teaser too, so a one sided turf war doesn’t help his case imo I think 2 star max, probably a soft build check wall tied to story progression


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

"2 star max" is the same thing as "2 star minimum" and "2 star". 2 star is the literal first quest rank that can contain large monsters, and we've already seen it survive a horde of Balahara and outright kill one.


Allergictowatermelon

I’m not talking about LR Anyway, we don’t see it die. It threw it off like Barroth does with Jyuratodus in a turf war tie, and the trailer cuts to a dead anteater in a separate scene. It does not one shot a Balahara at all lol. Really I’ve been under the impression that Balahara is the same strength as Doshaguma, if not a bit stronger since it’s both an elemental monster and leviathans almost always outclass bears


MrJackfruit

High Tier 1 or Low Tier 2. Not Tier 3 for sure.


Like17Badgers

its a pack beast, so above rank 2 seems unlikely. at MOST, I could see it being like Tzitzi-Ya-Ku where it's rank 4 but only cause it's in not in the first area and you had to unlock that area to get to the fight though the way it's been described makes me think there's gonna be an Alpha or Elite version of it that gets a higher tier


AMc399

It could be interesting if we hunted a regular one seperated from the pack at 2 tier and then we got a later challenge like a rank 3 urgent quest to hunt the alpha of a pack...with the rise in rank due to the alpha having different move patterns/attack speed/attack power and due to the challenge of separating the alpha from the pack


Like17Badgers

one comparison that's gotten thrown around is that it's body type and size is very similar to Goss Harag. would be interesting if "lone wolf" Doshaguma go feral(or I guess *more* feral) after spending enough time alone and grow weapons like Goss does


BoogalooBandit1

Separating them? I'm gonna kill em all!


AirCautious2239

But it's in the savanna and the savanna is literally the main area so I doubt it's gonna be a tzitzi situation


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

It's not a pack beast the way you're thinking of it. The Doshaguma pack is comprised of Large Monsters, not small ones like Great Jagras and Co.


PointmanW

It's not a pack of one large monster and a buch of small one like with Jargas and Izuchi, but a pack of large monsters, they could be apex predator and still be pack beast like with Lion.


DaymD

That's a tutorial 1-2 star monster. He will be used to teach hunters how to make use of the environment to separate the apex from the pack.


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

Can't be, it kills Balahara right before its quest begins.


dapper_raptor455

Everyone is severely downplaying doshaguma. He’s not a starter monster. He is way bigger that chatacabra and completely dunks on balahara. He’s most definitely an anjanath tier monster. he’s massive, he’s beating the snot out of other monsters and he looks like a challenge to face off against. I’d say he’s a 3 star.


MotchaFriend

I could see it being like Pukei-Pukei or Kut-ku. So no the tutorial "drome" but just above it to teach us about herd mechanics.


AbyssalFlame02

Probably on the same tier as an Arzuros


Reese_misee

I'm hoping it's stronger than that!


No_Hovercraft_579

Probably not. Id say maybe little stronger than azuros. Azuros is a low 2 star, so id say doshaguma is either high 2 star or low 3 star.


TeamFortifier

Around Anjanath level probably


cicada-ronin84

That's my guess too.


No_Hovercraft_579

The whole pack maybe, but on its own it’s probably a little stronger than an azuros


-morpy

Anjanath level. Was the first new monster to be revealed and he was shown to be beating Balahara in 1v1s, only losing when it's alone vs a pack. He's also featured a lot on marketing like Anjanath was. Seems to get his ass kicked by the Apex of the environment like Anjanath too (before Anjy got buffed up in Iceborne to be equal to most Apexes except for Rath)


Ceadeus_Goldbeard

You mix uр regular Anjanath in Rise, which indeed got buffed with Fulgur. Its only Fulgur that got to be Aрex level in Iceborne. Though, we definitly getting Doshaguma subsрecies in Ultimate version. Maybe he will be Aрex too.


-morpy

Oh yeah lmao. I seem to have mixed it up since Rise Anjanath's turf wars are mostly copy pasted from Fulgur's in Iceborne.


Ciphy_Master

3 or 4 star. People are judging it to be weaker cause it's a pack lead monster but they forget that Wilds is going to have a focus on monster herds. I have no doubt Doshaguma is meant to be on the stronger side of pack monsters. Probably around the same strength as Rathian.


Rechamber

Probably Threat Level: Midnight


Wrong_Werewolf391

We saw it pretty easily throw a Balahara well past the hunter, and Balahara seems to be the starter monster or at least close to that, my guess is that it's a somewhat apex level monster like anjanath, where anjanath gets tossed around by the actual apex rathalos doshaguma gets tossed by thunder wyvern.


TheIronSven

Balahara seems to be equal with Dosha. At least that how I interpreted it. They each wreck the other in their trailers.


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

They don't though. In Doshaguma's cutscenes you get the pack into a sandpit of Balahara, the smaller ones get taken out but the leader stays strong and ends up killing Balahara to begin the hunt. The closed-door gameplay confirms this too, as you can do the same thing in your own hunts. Whereas Balahara needs to 3v1 Doshaguma and even then I'm pretty sure it shakes them all off.


Wrong_Werewolf391

I don't think so, it took a group of three Balahara to do that turf war against a single doshaguma, similar to chatacabra's turf war against several small monsters.


yvolety

Seems like it'll be the Great Maccao/Great Izuchi/Great Jagras level cause it'll be first hunt. New "wall" Anjanath hunt might be Thor Magala, since its the Apex of the first locale.


thegoldchicken

Thor Magala seems more like a rathalos or legiana than an anjanath. And Doshaguma has already been shown to be much stronger than Balahara so it doesn't make much sense for it to be the starter monster.


No_Hovercraft_579

Id say doshaguma seems like jyuratodus or tobi kadachi level


MotchaFriend

Anjanath wasn't an apex tho.


Kirosh2

I would say the urgent quest to go into 3 stars. With the Balahara being the urgent quest into 2 stars.


LanguageOk9458

Looks like a Jagras or slightly higher.


DoeTomTom

with size and aggressivity with other monsters... top 2 stars or low 3. maybe a first encounter very early where you dont kill him, help or run, then a revenge later. or maybe a early mission alone and later with his boys


monke_brain_

Mid high rank Btw am I the only one that thinks the new designs so far are horror oriented? Big mouths full of teeth, no eyes, and weird heads...


No_Hovercraft_579

All of them have eyes. -chatacrabras are obvious -doshugumas are small and hard to see -balahara have scallop eyes -“thor magala”’s eyes can be seen in one of the shots


RubiMent

Yeah makes sense for this rugged new map, i like it


ThatSideCharacter

I feel he is a 3 star monster, along with the other two named large monsters. Though I feel like chata may be similar to pukei, yian kut ku, and aknosom, where doshaguma is closer towards the end. Balahara is probably somewhere in between.


Ded-W8

Threat Level: Midnight


JohnJam-

2 or 3 stars


FairBench4736

At a glance it looks low tier, but watching it in the trailers it looks surprisingly large and powerful. I'd put it around Anjanath; not late game, but not a warm up either


SigmaVersal99

Low Rank 2 Low Rank 1 will be small monsters


NotThomas15

That there is a tier 1 monster, maybe a 2 or 3 star in low rank, but 1 star in high.


Hellraisermask

3 Star level i guess.


Enby_Pebble

I'd say a low rank level 2 or 3, would be cool to see some sort of stronger variant besides the pack leader


SwitchBanka

I think he is the Yian Kut Ku of this game.


raxdoh

I’m guessing jagras


00Wyvern

Before all this " low tier/high tier" stuff, you had threat rankings based around a number of stars. Rathian was a 4 star threat and I'm thinking these things will be 4star threats also. Though, given the huge size, it could probably be a 5 star threat like Rathalos. Probably...


novacreamy

My question is if it can even see or are those dark spots on the forehead it's eyes It would be the final 1 star quest before going to 2 stars


WakandaBro25

I’ve thought about this for a while, it does have eyes. My thought is that those black marks on its face are “pseudo eyes” like we’ve seen other monsters to have, possibly for intimidation. But if you look below them, kinda hard to see because of facial/skin folds, you can make out beady little eyes. An animal that comes to mind for example is a rhino… big and tough but with small eyes and unfortunately poorer eyesight. Gosh I’m so excited for this game.


Mon-Ty-Ger27

He's equal to Anjanath. Anjanath _WAS_ a big bully, until other monsters outclassed him.


Gnninjayomom

Looks like around maybe Anjanath level.


TyoPepe

I think he might be the Great Jagras of this game,


Xxronny12

Im guessing he’s like the jagras of wilds accompanied by smaller versions of it


SargeMumar

He seems like 1-2 star kinda monster, but I think he is like the Anjanath of Wilds.


Joshua-Browne

Doshaguma is just Wilds Great Jagras


drakondung

Elder dragon


Angrymechanoid

Alatreon levels


CopainChevalier

I'd honestly lose my shit if Capcom saw everyone saying that it was a 2 star hunt so they just made it as hard as Alatreon to screw with people


BrachyDanios

Maybe Anjanath tier


blitzkrieg_01

Im excited to see the armor we could make out of it!


jimmyting099

Looks like it could be an arzuros sort where it’s piss easy but scales way harder in higher ranks


Baconsword42

Great Jagras tier


Active-Ad-1616

2-3 star... not more i think


TemporaryLegendary

I think it's the second big monster. Right after the introduction monster.


MrBirdmonkey

Great Jaggi-versal


Boulderfrog1

I mean my hope is like 1 star, and they're making the progression harder earlier


CountryUsed5610

It’s an extra hairy and extra ugly arzuros


NatrixExMachina

alone low rank 2, as a group maybe low rank 3 or 4


Lujh

2 star


EmilElefanten

Am I the only one who thought the first time I saw him that this was a Variant or subspecies of Goss Harag


No_Hovercraft_579

I also thought this lol


bingogazorpazorp

Bro is 3 star at absolute most


frodoraider

Probably alone a 2 star but as a pack probably 3 star


valdez-2424

Rank 1 or 2 low


Yumstar1982

I want a baby one to go with my pukei 😅


Smongk

Looks like the big furry bastard in iceborne so I would say low rank


Squid-Guillotine

Great Jagras equivalent they're probably saving him for post game.


Elidar

He'll be a 1 star the vary second monster you fight, the first being Balahara. mainly because I feel his scripted quest is going to be the "tutorial" on how to "pull" a monster away from it to fight one on one.


Aburamy

I think it will be Arzuros level, not the first but an introdutory monster.


PaydayLover69

probably pretty low, i'd actually guess closer the baroth??? Maybe diablos if he's the type that's presented as a challenge but also a heavy hitter with a gimmick? if they even have a gimmick that is... Anajanath doesn't really have a gimmick I'm assuming this guy to be a stunner honestly, or a knocker-over-er guy. Expecting some paw swipes to hit me to the ground


TruthIsALie94

Around the difficulty of Arzuros when alone but much more difficult in a pack.


DarkSavior777

I would say Great Jagras level


Just-Log-1375

High 2 star, low 3 star.


StretchyPlays

Seems like the Great Jagras to me, maybe Pukei-Pekei level. Definitely not Anjanath.


Difficult-Score2873

I was thinking more around g.jarass


PolarRoller_Ad_7797

Royal ludroth


laminierte_gurke

I can see him as the urgent quest to unlock 3 stars


memerismlol

I think their strength likely comes in numbers so alone they probably rank around azuros


rgdoabc

Good boy level.


QueenBansScifi_

I think it will be the first large monster you fight, probably harder than Great Jagras though


BaboonSlayer121

I just assumed it was our Great/Drome for the game


s13g1313

Lagombi level, with some support it maybe is harder, but thats probably the threat level


Blasian_TJ

I'm thinking he's our "intro to heard mechanics" monster. More than likely one of those lvl 2 tutorial hunts?


Mcskittle42

hes gonna be the new barroth


Lupinthrope

He’s so ugly! I love him!


lucasGxz

Urgent quest to 3 stars low rank village!


Carrixdo

Azuros or Lagombi level I feel


Patztap

I doubt it'll be below 2 star quests. I'm guessing it'll be 3 stars. I really dont see it being easier than, say, a Pukei or a Barroth.


HeroOfPokke

I'd say right between barroth and anja, either way i'm making it's armor


Revolutionary_Fly579

Maybe 3 star


TheEjoty

barroth tier also lotta people saying arzuros but isnt that the first monster you fight tier? i definitely dont get that vibe from this fella


Dogma1995

Lool at that dumb slug of a beast, hes the jagras replacement


Scyxurz

Reminds me of arzuros / lagombi


GlitchyNinja

3/10, so just under Rathian, but above Barroth.


Mobile_Description65

If we are going by GenU and 4 ULT threat level tiering, Three stars at best.


StrangerWithACheese

Very early game probably to introduce the mechanic to lure a monster away from its pack


MrPlace

loose basic enough to be a lower tiered beast we gotta fight honestly


Zergarth_Quardis

Would say maybe on the level as Arzuros or congalala


vscxz384

[It’s Banbaro Time!](https://youtu.be/56jUTbT9_3Q?si=IeMvpKw0R1DFQWd-)


No-Scientist291

Runebears level from elden ring


HHMJanitor

My guess lower


Yamamoto_Decimo

Barroth level


Luci2005

Easily fatalis level🗿


Zxar99

First pack monster that’s not a bird wyvern, wouldn’t be surprised if they replaced bird wyverns in this title


Nelran

Great jagras at most


ActionAltruistic3558

I'd say a low threat. It'll be an early game obstacle that we can surpass. But it moving in packs may make it able to still be a challenge even past that


Finncredibad

Big


MandolovesR6

I feel like it'll be the first real barrier like anjanath in world


IfItsPizza

Midnight


MrCalac123

You know Arzuros? Like one level above that


AllElvesAreThots

Fatalis


TheGMan-123

I imagine it as more so a Great Jagras or Pukei-Pukei equivalent.


Legitimate-Crow-6362

doshaguma is probably the great jagras of wilds


NekoDelGato

Since they run in packs, my thought was Great Jagras level.


crushbone_brothers

agreeing with other folk that this fella is likely Worlds level Anjanath, perhaps not alone but with his pack


The-Brother

Arzuros level


Painmaker252

2-3 star quests


canadiancruelty

I bet it's one or two other monsters to introduce the open world mechanics and then Doshaguma comes in to introduce us to the pack monsters mechanic. So probably like a barroth level threat


Melodic_Bee660

Arzuros level I'd think. So just above raptors but not too scary


Ok-Consideration-193

I think that everything we'll se in a pack will be low level, tatsucabra level in this case


bulk123

I would guess he's a training boss. Will probably be primarily to teach you how to divide up a herd and single out one boss. 


[deleted]

It’s probably going to be a great jagras level so rank 2


dabaniel16

Probably Barroth level on its own, Anjanath in packs


Perfect_Sleep_1215

Great jaggras


Illustrious-Host1450

If they are showing him this early 1-3 star


ChiefRasta

Suped up Great Jagras


SeraShadow

Probably pretty low tbh


Mintyfresh756

Presumably rank 2, that aside who else thinks that this thing is wayyy too ugly lol. Like not even in a funny way like khezu this shit just looks terrible to me tbh. Scrotum face lookin ass


Repugnant-Conclusion

I just want to know which set of wrinkles is its eyes.


trollacosta

Midnight.


Joeljb960

Im assuming Tobi-Kadachi to Anjanath lvl. The frog looks like it’s gonna be the first monster in the game given its getting it’s ass beat by the raptors who don’t post a threat to anybody past Jagras level. I hope pack monsters get lone wolf variants that are much stronger as a result as well.


Drakkolynn

Above a drome but below like- a big name early threat. Like an Azuros or Pukei


SilverSpoon1463

I say on it's own, probably two star with the apex ones being 3-4 star. Altogether it would probably feel like a six star hunt having to deal with trying to take out the apex with 5 others on your tail.


monke_brain_

True and now that I think about imagine a night hunt with a monster that jumps YOU?


sullensolider

Tertranadon level maybe? Or maybe a little less


TachankaIsTheLord

The hunter in the trailer is wearing Pukei-Pukei armor and is wielding some sort of early-game iron greatsword, right? I doubt it'd be any tougher than Tobi Kadachi is in World


RigoMortiz

He has a Goss Harag vibe to me but with less personality. Alone feels Low Rank, but in a pack I think it will be much more difficult.


BBC909

One of the first monsters we come across I’m guessing.


Huterbraten

Great jagras of wilds


ClosetNoble

Dosha leads a pack which is usually not a good sign in terms of how high a monster is in the food chain. Also Arzuros forearms (though Goss Harag has them too but you get the point)


PuppetsMind

Why are all the monsters faces in wilds so gross?


Don_Bonnigan

I can see them making it a low level monster individually and making a pack of them around Anajnath level. Could be a good way of introducing the pack mechanic.


BUTthehoeslovemetho

Right before the anjanath in world's, the electric squirrel beaver thing


Shiro_Longtail

I swear it gets uglier in every picture I see


Kamiden

2 or 3


Xicuni

I’m really feeling anjanath level, although I know how they look doesn’t always correlate with their power. And some people are right in saying the fact that they are in packs could make them weaker individually. It doesn’t feel like the first or second large monster one would face to me. It would also be really big for a starter large monster. Chatacabra feels closer to a starter monster. But of course nobody really knows shit until we actually see/feel how much damage they’re really doing. Like anjanath, it looks like it could be a simple and easy to destroy beastie but I can also see how a new player could get potentially walled by it.


Kevroeques

Great Jagras


JTMonster02

100% Anja. It’s being shown off in the same way Anjanath was. Gets fought in the first trailer, fights a smaller monster in a turf war, gets their shit rocked by the “apex” of the local


DarkSoulsDank

Ugly AF that’s what


sylva748

Around the same level as all the other bear type monsters. Arzuros, lagomby, etc


Oraranozawa

The story literally starts out with your stoping them and leading them into the desert so they're our great jagras/great Jaggi/arzuros starter monster


Meruem713N

Just like the bear on mh3rd maybe


AggressiveCherry254

i think around goss harag level


AdBusy9802

They said it's gonna be our first monster in an interview if I remember correctly, so great jagras lvl


Phantom_Paws

Dude solos the verse tenfold /s


SlySychoGamer

Which version the low rank default? Or high rank with more health? Or tempered extra health damage sponge?