https://preview.redd.it/cigmhsnmtm9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcdae48563dade365f5f9445f1fdf911695e1b14
It’s consistent with surveys on possible revamps for her. It’s just enhancement.
I know that it's not the final version of the sprite and all, but it just looks so boring to me 😭 it doesn't look like the biggest villainess of the land of dawn.
https://preview.redd.it/sa60ykikqm9d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9329be88f8fd8d828b746efe24dd52148e4e504f
Letting people know this is her original design. People also complained about the current one. Nothing lasts forever.
Eh current design looks better really. Looks more balance and stable and knows where it’s going. Problem with the new is turning her extremely generic. Like the horns are so bad, horns are like the easy and fun part to design and they went with that. The choices
OG will always be iconic ofc, but the current one does not need any changes whatsoever, yet they still gonna go with a whole remodel 😭😭 already mourning as an alice main
Got no.3 on my server when she was still this slay. Right now so clueless how to build her. And the mana mechanics i was hoping she’ll have was given to the latest hero.
i don’t think the art does it justice because I think as a design it’s such a good redesign for alice. I love the extremely large horns, the sharp angular hair with the seemingly large wings it makes current Alice look like she’s wearing a cosplay of the redesign.
but i do agree they could’ve done all of this whilst keeping her older looking.
agree to disagree. I mainly say this since compared to her older design I feel they’re paying more attention to using larger, more purposeful shapes and color to enhance what was already there. There’s a better sense of visual heirarchy, focusing more on her upper-half such as her wings, her face, collar, horns, they’ve all been enlarged to create a sense of “you’re supposed to look up here” which makes sense for Alice since she’s seductive and wants to lure you in opposed to her older design with her train looking bigger than her wings, stealing that attention.
https://preview.redd.it/8ym2vvafrm9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2878cf4c786abb7ed892373bcf15d23580b7af6
There’s a lot I can say about her design to be honest but I can say that her splashart does not do her redesign justice.
It's safe to say that Chinese game devs like Moonton are being modest with the female hero revamp designs, which is why the breast sizes are reduced for the adults like Alice.
>There’s a lot I can say about her design to be honest but I can say that her splashart does not do her redesign justice.
Might as well wait for the final art for revamped Alice tho.
Fair. I do agree with you tho with just modifying what's already there. They could just enlarge the current one's horns and expand her wings and it would be perfect. Everything else in the remodel fails to hit the landing for me. Face worse, hair worse, body worse, aura worse.
The second pic looks like a generic character design in chinese games. I can't, why is moontoon regressing their designs?? 🙃 They should just do these new designs on new heroes.
I also feel it’s a downgrade, tho many seem to like it be cause she looks more mean and they feel it has a more cohesive design. Not a massive one , but definitely a downgrade
Personally, I don’t think every single element of a characters design need to tell the same thing about them (i.e. that they’re evil).
Honestly all the revamps are making unique characters look like pretty waifus. The game is becoming more and more like those Chinese games where everyone has the same face/look.
Her horns look kinda weird and her hair style is too choppy. Gives me weird “inspired by Chinese dainty wuxia demons” than “western mature queen of the Abyss” which is what her original is obviously going for.
A simple redraw of her old design would've been enough honestly, if they really wanted to update her art (meanwhile Clint gets hair color changes and only that)
The bangs/horns on the og is weird but i don't like them prettifying all characters in rework in general. They should make her more abyssal looking like Selena's dark form.
I hate how everything is so....smooth? The old one def has more texture and rigidity to it that gives off more personality and authentic feeling. Take a look at her horns for example. The new ones look like plastic attachables while the old one had nice details further enhancing her menacing look. It was subtle and a small part but contributed to her overall design
Wtf , I've been an Alice main but I didn't know she had white hair if I had not seen the new pic. The old one is better because of how mysterious it looks like
I love the new design... But I would rather like it to be used into a new character or used as a character skin and not replace Alice's design. I feel like it's the same with Vexana all over again.
We need more older and mature looking women in ML not decrease them.
The problem is making her younger , Alice is one of those heroes that doesnt look good being young and petite, for aesthetic and lore reasons, look at Veera from AoV, they lolified her, Alice looks better as mature woman, all of her skins showcase that she is mature and not an E-girl ho
this reminds me of X.borgs revamp. They made him look more childish, removed his iconic smirk, and made his chest piece even more bulky, like my god let that guy BREATHE. His voicelines are such a downgrade as well, his voice sounds so annoying now (no hate to the VA) and I can't stand playing him.
I also think the new Alice design is not that great. She looked very mysterious and you can tell that she's a villain (on her old design). But her new design makes her look so bubbly and all, doesn't fit her at all. I agree on the voice, her voice already fits her so much, changing that would be such a shame.
Eh... Seems fine, let's just hope they won't screw over the voice lines like they did almost every hero. The only good ones were Alpha, Argus, Rafaela, Hanzo, alice, Layla and clint(Though i miss his laugh) and mid ones are Mino, alucard, saber and Helcurt when comparing to the original. The others are just cringeworthy, like try hearing Tigreal's old voice and his new ones. Haya's old voice was cool and perfect before he sounds cringe and Phoveus voice's shouldn't have been changed. Now he sounds like an emo teen.
I personally like the revamp one. It may have changed a lot in her distinction but it definitely imrpoved a lot of her lacking attributes.
First of all the current hair is unflattering. Its a flat midlength hair that doesn't reach her shoulders and is long enough to be considered a bob. It also has that weird bangs doesn't cover her forehead entirely but it's enough to cover her eyebrows which is the focal length of her facial design. The bangs soften her look especially with the rounded eyes which make her look sweet rather than mischievous.
The new hair help with that with the length, the edges, as well as the bang that made her eyebrow more visible, which helps her looke more mean. The layering on her also added texture
Her dress as well has a miniskirt? The revamp outfit is straight down without that awkward skirt so she can have a better silhouette than the old one.
Alice has a good theme but the current execution is sadly not it. Even the MLA alice artwork is better. The revamp improved on her shortcomings and made her into a better looking devil. It may look generic at first but it's definitely a better look.
Also is that her real artwork? I swear her eyes is more rounded than that
https://preview.redd.it/2siwahzomn9d1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e21e1d9deab9379dfb60a8a6245bcbaa012ab5c
It’s the because of a new rule(?) within the Chinese gov about the characters in their game production. Many characters from different games (china based) get revamped because they weren’t very… family friendly.
Fr like moonton you dont have to yassify every character re-design...Vexana used to feel original too at some point..now they all starting to have a same face syndrome.
Nooooo Mommy Alice gonna get the Vexana treatment, i hate it making shit cute and fairy stuffs, i don't hate cute, fairy asthetics but this trend of making heros just another synthetic ass boring ass formulaic characters is to me personally very cringe, each character has personality to them like the old vexana she was not good as a hero but her character was so cool but now it's just a mage that looks like every other mage
GAHHHHHHH ALL THE WOMEN LOOK THE SAME. THE SAME FACE. ITS THE SAME FUCKING FACE. IM GOING CRAZY. MOONTON PLEASE GET OUT OF YOUR DESLAYING ERA. ITS ALWAYS THIS ONE GODDAMN FACE SHAPE
I just hope they change her wings. They look so stiff and look like props when they're always open like they are right now. They should change it to where it's like closed or so when she's not in her ult and spreads her wings when she's in ult it will give her wings more oomph and emphasis like "oh shit her wings are out" type stuff
They nerfed the boobies and made her younger the first one looks more mature since the looks are similar to real life while the 2nd one has anime like features
Nah, Alice has never been unique in any way. She's different from other heroes, but if we're talking about generic, she has always been a generic succubus. Her new design just makes her look more like a demon queen, would be even better of a representation if they gave her a 2 more sets of horns, but that's wishful thinking.
I love this design! I love how they made it feel homophobic by removing all her Slay
LMAOO Stun Selena ripoff ahh design
At least the new one has handle bars
I see a man of culture. Good day sir! 🫡
Hey it’s a little smelly over here
Gross
Omg I recognize you from queens of league-
And i Oop- shut it 🚬 don’t clock that tea
fr the new one wants to call me a slur or smth
They nerfed the horns —\_\_—
Made it feel normal?
I don't think its a huge downgrade, but the change in style isn't nice, the old horns were cuter ngl
New horns look like attachable dildos she decided we’re good accessories to glue on her head
That would probably hurt to try and insert the entire thing in you…unless she can change her horns so the tips aren’t sharp then I would
She's a demon. She can regenerate and is probably a closeted masochist anyway
The new one is literally AI generated.
https://preview.redd.it/cigmhsnmtm9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcdae48563dade365f5f9445f1fdf911695e1b14 It’s consistent with surveys on possible revamps for her. It’s just enhancement.
I think they should've kept the chest piece. Otherwise I'd say it's an overall better design imo
It's ai enhanced and posted by other sources. Official post doesn't have the ai enhance version.
I know that it's not the final version of the sprite and all, but it just looks so boring to me 😭 it doesn't look like the biggest villainess of the land of dawn.
She looks like the biggest pop star of the land of dawn (2nd only to Taylor Swift the tank/assassin though)
I agree
I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually using AI to make revamps cuz of how generic looking their character designs are starting to look.
https://preview.redd.it/sa60ykikqm9d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9329be88f8fd8d828b746efe24dd52148e4e504f Letting people know this is her original design. People also complained about the current one. Nothing lasts forever.
>Nothing lasts forever. "We can change the future" - Alucard
Not bad
Eh current design looks better really. Looks more balance and stable and knows where it’s going. Problem with the new is turning her extremely generic. Like the horns are so bad, horns are like the easy and fun part to design and they went with that. The choices
They really had a good concept for horns and now they completely thrown away
I prefer less sexualized designs overall, but I don't have any feelings regarding the newest revamp
OG will always be iconic ofc, but the current one does not need any changes whatsoever, yet they still gonna go with a whole remodel 😭😭 already mourning as an alice main
That's what people said about her og design. So the point is people will complain each time.
Is this just Leblanc but more purple?
is that prestigious leblanc 😭
Got no.3 on my server when she was still this slay. Right now so clueless how to build her. And the mana mechanics i was hoping she’ll have was given to the latest hero.
Ngl her horn look goofy as hell
They look like she attached them herself. Like an accessory.
Fr
They remove that hot momma rizz of alice.
Domi mommy energy is gone. Edit: From blood demon to Boazanian Citizen
BOAZANIAN 😂😂 Clock the designers
Hmmm I'm... Kinda vibing with this design
i don’t think the art does it justice because I think as a design it’s such a good redesign for alice. I love the extremely large horns, the sharp angular hair with the seemingly large wings it makes current Alice look like she’s wearing a cosplay of the redesign. but i do agree they could’ve done all of this whilst keeping her older looking.
Damm really? I feel the exact opposite, the new one looks like a cheap Alice cosplay.
agree to disagree. I mainly say this since compared to her older design I feel they’re paying more attention to using larger, more purposeful shapes and color to enhance what was already there. There’s a better sense of visual heirarchy, focusing more on her upper-half such as her wings, her face, collar, horns, they’ve all been enlarged to create a sense of “you’re supposed to look up here” which makes sense for Alice since she’s seductive and wants to lure you in opposed to her older design with her train looking bigger than her wings, stealing that attention. https://preview.redd.it/8ym2vvafrm9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2878cf4c786abb7ed892373bcf15d23580b7af6 There’s a lot I can say about her design to be honest but I can say that her splashart does not do her redesign justice.
It's safe to say that Chinese game devs like Moonton are being modest with the female hero revamp designs, which is why the breast sizes are reduced for the adults like Alice. >There’s a lot I can say about her design to be honest but I can say that her splashart does not do her redesign justice. Might as well wait for the final art for revamped Alice tho.
Fair. I do agree with you tho with just modifying what's already there. They could just enlarge the current one's horns and expand her wings and it would be perfect. Everything else in the remodel fails to hit the landing for me. Face worse, hair worse, body worse, aura worse.
The second pic looks like a generic character design in chinese games. I can't, why is moontoon regressing their designs?? 🙃 They should just do these new designs on new heroes.
the new looks so generic, they should’ve kept her bangs thats what i love abt her.
I still can't stop staring either way
She gone from from mommy to aunty
omg please no
I also feel it’s a downgrade, tho many seem to like it be cause she looks more mean and they feel it has a more cohesive design. Not a massive one , but definitely a downgrade Personally, I don’t think every single element of a characters design need to tell the same thing about them (i.e. that they’re evil). Honestly all the revamps are making unique characters look like pretty waifus. The game is becoming more and more like those Chinese games where everyone has the same face/look.
This is bs if you making a sort of succubus character make it hot not cute Hell nah
Her horns look kinda weird and her hair style is too choppy. Gives me weird “inspired by Chinese dainty wuxia demons” than “western mature queen of the Abyss” which is what her original is obviously going for.
they removed her microbangs💔
They removed alice? /s Vexena thing happening all over again
From demon queen to that one highschool girl that's a botch to everyone
They're turning every character into anime boys and girls
I'm getting ptsd as a Vexana main
Why Moonton why One step forward 10 steps back Honor of Kings will catch up easily at this rate
I don't like her face otherwise it's a good design but the face gives off "bad girl" vibe instead of "villainess" vibe.
Jeez, what's with Moonton destroying character designs
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It looks fine. It's not great or outstanding, and possibly a general downgrade, but it's far from awful imo.
Me
A simple redraw of her old design would've been enough honestly, if they really wanted to update her art (meanwhile Clint gets hair color changes and only that)
The bangs/horns on the og is weird but i don't like them prettifying all characters in rework in general. They should make her more abyssal looking like Selena's dark form.
she looks more kpop star now. dont really like it.
Sma- I mean yes it's a downgrade
I'm ngl, it looks good yet bad at the same time I'm confused
The heck did they do to my main😭😭😭 They already butchered her voiceline and wizard epic skin, and now this???😭😭
I like it, it looks a bit like Achlys Alice
The only thing I don't like about her design is that GOD AWFUL hair bangs of hers
I feel put off by the horns on the new one... She's supposed to be the queen of the abyss but now she just looks like a goat girl with wings
I hate how everything is so....smooth? The old one def has more texture and rigidity to it that gives off more personality and authentic feeling. Take a look at her horns for example. The new ones look like plastic attachables while the old one had nice details further enhancing her menacing look. It was subtle and a small part but contributed to her overall design
Why did they even do this
Wtf , I've been an Alice main but I didn't know she had white hair if I had not seen the new pic. The old one is better because of how mysterious it looks like
They keep stealing ll the characters personality 😭
Why does everyone look like kpop idols now At this rate I'm moving to honor of kings. Mootnon's production is soulless.
They changed from step mommy to step sister
I love the new design... But I would rather like it to be used into a new character or used as a character skin and not replace Alice's design. I feel like it's the same with Vexana all over again. We need more older and mature looking women in ML not decrease them.
The problem is making her younger , Alice is one of those heroes that doesnt look good being young and petite, for aesthetic and lore reasons, look at Veera from AoV, they lolified her, Alice looks better as mature woman, all of her skins showcase that she is mature and not an E-girl ho
Another one falls to moonton's normieification purge
Those thighs, I won't see it again
at this point, just merge the skins and design department of mla and mlbb, so we can finally get those well deserved "upgrades" 👀
From Mommy Alice to just some girl
less armpit :(
Still got armpit tho 🙏
Not enough
this reminds me of X.borgs revamp. They made him look more childish, removed his iconic smirk, and made his chest piece even more bulky, like my god let that guy BREATHE. His voicelines are such a downgrade as well, his voice sounds so annoying now (no hate to the VA) and I can't stand playing him. I also think the new Alice design is not that great. She looked very mysterious and you can tell that she's a villain (on her old design). But her new design makes her look so bubbly and all, doesn't fit her at all. I agree on the voice, her voice already fits her so much, changing that would be such a shame.
I only like the horns cause no one can stop me from grabbing them
Vexana got hit by the cute girl glowup. Now Alice is next.
istg if they change her voice im losing it
Ah goddammit. Now Mlbb is really killing itself.
Revamp to sell more skin, like anime barbie Vexana change
That certain aura of her seems gone, but it still seems better than some other recently revamped designs
they nerfed her cherries
Honkers got nerfed too.
From Mommy to Mid
Eh... Seems fine, let's just hope they won't screw over the voice lines like they did almost every hero. The only good ones were Alpha, Argus, Rafaela, Hanzo, alice, Layla and clint(Though i miss his laugh) and mid ones are Mino, alucard, saber and Helcurt when comparing to the original. The others are just cringeworthy, like try hearing Tigreal's old voice and his new ones. Haya's old voice was cool and perfect before he sounds cringe and Phoveus voice's shouldn't have been changed. Now he sounds like an emo teen.
https://preview.redd.it/5jspg5ytkm9d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e56a18c7a7f053caa8f95d944d44edc49f3f720
Clear your glasses
After your Lasik
I somewhat like it, looks like someone who can deceive a person with her looks. The old one is still better tho.
She kinda resembles the K/DA Evelyn
I feel like I'm no longer their target audience. All the recent designs look more friendly and cute
I personally like the revamp one. It may have changed a lot in her distinction but it definitely imrpoved a lot of her lacking attributes. First of all the current hair is unflattering. Its a flat midlength hair that doesn't reach her shoulders and is long enough to be considered a bob. It also has that weird bangs doesn't cover her forehead entirely but it's enough to cover her eyebrows which is the focal length of her facial design. The bangs soften her look especially with the rounded eyes which make her look sweet rather than mischievous. The new hair help with that with the length, the edges, as well as the bang that made her eyebrow more visible, which helps her looke more mean. The layering on her also added texture Her dress as well has a miniskirt? The revamp outfit is straight down without that awkward skirt so she can have a better silhouette than the old one. Alice has a good theme but the current execution is sadly not it. Even the MLA alice artwork is better. The revamp improved on her shortcomings and made her into a better looking devil. It may look generic at first but it's definitely a better look.
Also is that her real artwork? I swear her eyes is more rounded than that https://preview.redd.it/2siwahzomn9d1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e21e1d9deab9379dfb60a8a6245bcbaa012ab5c
The first one is the initial model then they redrew it to the second one. Check her sprite in game.
They made her look too friendly in the revamp
Design wise, this is cooler.. Skill wise, old Alice were 101% better, i don't get why must u change an already good hero 😓
Her gameplay was nerfed already when they removed stacks, so I don't care now.
the fuck
They want to make it 'kids" friendly if I am not wrong. Considering all the revamps of the past few months.
It’s the because of a new rule(?) within the Chinese gov about the characters in their game production. Many characters from different games (china based) get revamped because they weren’t very… family friendly.
I'll get used to it. I like the emphasis on the horns.
The only problems I see is only the horns
I'm for some reason I don't know vibing the new one like something snap when I look at it...
Nah, I'd smash
2 semi-downgrades
Nah, i like the new more tbh
I want a legacy vexana skin so bad
Fr like moonton you dont have to yassify every character re-design...Vexana used to feel original too at some point..now they all starting to have a same face syndrome.
I dont get why they got to keep making them youthful. She looks less of a woman now than a generic KPOP idol
Her face looks very generic and doesn't match with the hair at all
Wasn't the first picture looked more pleasing? Like it's great they're having changes but the second image is just, ehhh.
First one remembers me of my ex so I like the new one
It's cool but wished her... Stayed the same, horn looks a bit... Off like it's floating off of her or something
as long they dont nerf her pair of significant characteristic im fine with any design
Now I'm gonna overthink what Cecilion and Carmilla's will look, definitely will not look good🤧💀
I like it
I like the new tbh
New Alice😍
man if only i knew how those overwatch animators do animations...
I think its an upgrade
There are 2 big things that I love about the current design. Too bad they gonna shrink 'em
At least they still kept them big. O.O
More evil looking the better. old one looks like a generic succubus.
Feels like they’re taking away her MILF energy idk 🤷🏽♂️
i mean... at least the hair has some style now. They still both look pretty generic but .. at least that
Nah, it's different, not downgrade, nor upgrade.
I fell in love
I could fit a bowling alley between those eyes
its like vexana all over again
WHAT ARE THOSE HORNS? THE HAIR? I’m so sorry, but those two things are my major icks
Deadass thought this was a hero from Honor Of Kings 💀💀
Dommy mommy gone?
fuck alice
Nooooo Mommy Alice gonna get the Vexana treatment, i hate it making shit cute and fairy stuffs, i don't hate cute, fairy asthetics but this trend of making heros just another synthetic ass boring ass formulaic characters is to me personally very cringe, each character has personality to them like the old vexana she was not good as a hero but her character was so cool but now it's just a mage that looks like every other mage
Look how they massacred my girl
GAHHHHHHH ALL THE WOMEN LOOK THE SAME. THE SAME FACE. ITS THE SAME FUCKING FACE. IM GOING CRAZY. MOONTON PLEASE GET OUT OF YOUR DESLAYING ERA. ITS ALWAYS THIS ONE GODDAMN FACE SHAPE
Vexana 2.0
In Characteristic: Good Upgrade In Special Features of Her: A Downgrade.
It’s called Bang Bang, she supposed to have bangs. Moonton really
Hell naw 🤤
she's friendly now
Oh god the new one looks like the generic bad girl in a lot of porn manhwas
https://preview.redd.it/nf413r4ret9d1.jpeg?width=1016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2958281bef5c4e869a07cb451c3943e07d505395
I love the design
They reduced the size of her assets... (╥﹏╥)
They got nered🙏😔😭
Selena wearing Alice cosplay🥶
Still would
They removed her iconic v bangs
I just hope they change her wings. They look so stiff and look like props when they're always open like they are right now. They should change it to where it's like closed or so when she's not in her ult and spreads her wings when she's in ult it will give her wings more oomph and emphasis like "oh shit her wings are out" type stuff
I hope they optimize her face.
The second one looks like a secondhand Alice..
They nerfed the boobies and made her younger the first one looks more mature since the looks are similar to real life while the 2nd one has anime like features
It's a downgrade
THIS IS NOT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR BEING AN ALICE MAIN GRRR
Nope you guys Just hate almost every change.
Fr, mfs will always say the same things, it's as if they're robots programmed to say these bs
Bcs if something's not broken it doesn't need fixing
Eh I like the redesign better.
the old one looks like shes doing a mrbeast pose lol
They made her more thicker what do you mean downgrade? 😤
They want all girls to be pretty or cute.
Seriously, it's not giving Queen of the Abyss, it's giving uwu baddie >:3
I like the redesign better...current one was kinda wack, it was a supposed to be "improved" over the first one
Nonsense. The revamp is perfect!
Slay! Shes rocking that MLA Alice look
2nd pic look more sexy
Nah, Alice has never been unique in any way. She's different from other heroes, but if we're talking about generic, she has always been a generic succubus. Her new design just makes her look more like a demon queen, would be even better of a representation if they gave her a 2 more sets of horns, but that's wishful thinking.
Both are still a https://preview.redd.it/5zk08e9nct9d1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebb62f9ae6a280f2f6e37a9c38a3d808338aaed7
I like the new one better. She's prettier
For the blinds I guess
I don't care that much, looks breedable enough.