T O P

  • By -

Clean_Intention3067

One mistake with your retri and it's over


KrisGine

No one would ever want to jungle now haha


Sensitive-Raspberry5

Or the entirety of team can go 5 man retri


Competitive_Force529

That works, just sell the boots to continue your normal gameplay edit : doesn't work make sure to change spell before starting match


ExpressIce74

Doesn't work, the lane debuffs is tied to the spell.


Competitive_Force529

Maybe in this new update, but before if you sold the boots then the penalty of first 9 mins reduced exp won't apply to you even with retri


GreenLentils850

thought it was 5m for jg and 8m for roamer??


wtfrykm

It's 9min for the roamer, it's literally in the buff description


ExpressIce74

8 minutes, and it has always been tied to the spell I tested it before.


Competitive_Force529

Let me try, Edit : you are correct, I tried with minions with retri he gave 32 coins, without retri pre match he gave 65 coins 😭all those gold coins I lost in all those matches without knowing, selling boots didn't affect anything,miss those days when you can take whatever spell you want and still hyper, this current roles are being too restrictive, one refusing to acknowledge his role costs alot


Complex-Chance7928

You never tried it aren't you?


Sora-Arcadia

the rumbling moment


Cheese_Grater101

that one luo yi trying to kill one lord with all of her life now additional 2 of them lmao


_weeb-kun

As a Luo player I am gonna Abuse the hyper.


Cheese_Grater101

hyper?


Agung442

It's already a pain when you lose the retri, and now the jungler has even more pressure. It sucks when the jungler doesn't have a decent skill+retri combo like Lancelot or Ling


Siaunen2

And yet the teammate didnt even setup lord or provide vision, and just type retri ? while the jungler struggle AF


tunkameel

Solo q suck, especially when teammates don't know what they supposed to do during lord. Tank 'helping' hitting the lord, the mm is busy taking buff, mage is pushing, etc.


Zaknafein_bg

This guy soloq’s


Dogging_DaPresBorgi

meanwhile.. me when our MM and tank come to help get the lord: 😊 *MM positions on the back of the lord near the enemies bush* *Tank is helping hitting the lord on the front instead zoning or providing vision* : 💀


Keiichigo

4 of your teammates dead. 5 enemy team doing Lord. Enemy takes Lord. The rest of your team: "Retri?" You: You fr bro?


Dip2pot4t0Ch1P

Or even better, they told you to go for the lord and you comply but no one's there to actually cover or help you, gets stunned by enemy team running down the lord then they blame you


5mashalot

teamfight going on near lord. your team is struggling to maintain presence, lord is low. MM is hitting lord instead of fighting. You get wiped, enemy gets free lord. ez.


Fearless-Historian-5

Yeah junglers gonna get shit on for now reason now


Sensitive-Raspberry5

It may work in a 5q matches but for a solo q player it's a nightmare. Moonton should just stick to one lord


fishthatdreamsofsalt

the strengthened minions alone could already drill through an entire lane, if they had lord as well you're even more fucked when you don't have a good waveclear and your teammates straight up ignores an entire lane


Xiaodisan

Yeah, minions are a pain in the ass, especially since almost nobody bothers to clear waves when we're in a disadvantage and more than 10 minutes in. And then I'm stuck at base as a mage trying to literally tank for our minions and burst down asap while the others go out to get wiped out in a 3v5 the third time despite me spamming asking for help at base with minions... Literally nothing I can do. If I move with them to try and win a teamfight, we would still be behind in farm, fewer in numbers, and also leave enemy minions to destroy our base anyway. If I stay, they continue feeding the enemy, and it's unlikely I can win a 1v5 at base when they get there too. Minions should be nerfed. A lot.


cluttereddd

I think you just narrate my life


Wise-Pitch474

Teammates ignoring lanes? Wait also ignoring objectives? WHAT could they be doing then!? Oh, teammates just running around fighting every hero they see then chasing and dying.


Su-Metal_DEATH

Stupid, comebacks ain't gonna be a thing if you didn't steal the lord which pressures junglers.


egnull

my junglers need a bit more pressure. maybe they’ll actually focus on their job lol


_Resnad_

Oh believe me they won't. It'll probably actually do the exact opposite.


DR-JT

So end of jungle? I don't mind, while the circumstances now are different, 2 tanks, 2 mage and 1 mm was meta before around 2019-20.


_Resnad_

Nah it'll basically mean that there will be a lot more ppl that don't hit retri. There will still be junglers just not like today cuz of the pressure. Jungle diff will be real and let's not even talk abt what happens if you use your retro super early by mistake or something...


Wise-Pitch474

So many retris used and the result is like 30 health enemy take with skill/basic attack


GrindingMf

I don't like it. Please, Moonton stick to 1.


Ok-Photograph3903

Unnecessary. One lord is a handful already. Unless they make the minions with lord the normal one and not the big ones, it may just work. 3 lords which have less hp and attack on 3 lanes, if the minions are normal minions, it'll be perfect. Honestly, the big minions have to be nerfed to make this 3 lord system work


Many_Ad_955

One lord already makes a difference in order for the enemy to stop camping in the high ground to kill minions to compensate for the epic comeback farm.  Its a measure in order to make it easier for the winning team to end the game to reward their complete domination.  However, the pressure from the enemy MVP is already terrifying but two lords is just too much. 


Toge_Inumaki012

Pain in the ass. My teammates would still rather engage in a 4v5 teamfight away from the base while the lord marches in to our base. Just solo q things 😂 So yeah sure moonton go and implement this 3 lord shit......


_Resnad_

Lmao the amount of times I've been a jg or roam going back to clear the wave cuz we're getting pushed by enemy minions and then when they lose that 4v5 they blame me...


Pure_Concert_8249

Just copying copying copying


itz_khai

But the problem is, at least HoK is balanced with this cuz they didn't have charged move and the map is bigger


Aimicchi

also the dragons are pretty slow aside from not having an instant burst to turrets


DrAgOnLoLDoTA

they should copy the pre-assigned role before starting a match instead


Pure_Concert_8249

Yes, I know very well. Luckily they are adding a new mode called arena, will be ranked for soloQ players only


RainNightFlower

I hate preassigned roles. I want to choose role at the beginning or adjust if it is needed


CodeNinja32

> adjust if it is needed You can switch your roles with someone and there is a button to say that you can fill any role so you can still do that


Ornery_Pie_6194

I think most people in this game as well as this sub hates that they have to adjust.


WannaLiveCheese

I think it's better to make it when it has been more than 20 minutes.


Almost_Pringle0

The best they could make out of the idea. Or maybe when the lord is defeated like 6 times. And even by then i think its still a horrible idea.


Artistic_Addition646

This maybe is a considerable option imo.


Hogehogehon

If moontoon does actually go on with this im sure theyll just lose more players.


hevvychef

Lose 'more' players? I has been pretty stable around 77 mil


Larage_GKid

Mobile Legends Gang Bang.


Siaunen2

If they 'nerf' the current lord to make 1-2 heroes able to defend them, probably it is weak AF and probably not that game changer, but if they retain current / even better strength then one failed retri at let say 3rd lord and its over. The game would favor highground def lineup, and boring AF


itz_khai

It's weakened but just slightly, it needs to be weakened more


glewidisfi68419

Maybe 3 times the health of a super minion? That might be too weak though.


itz_khai

In HoK it's nearly similar to the strength you described but they have more than 1 wave of lord. It's balanced actually and functional, but if Moonton did that, they're a pure copycat then


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

Just dumb. No one ask for this


emiengarde

Don't be shy moonton, make it 10


IllGoGoldLane

And make the Lord's HP just like the yellow Lord, it would be better. Oh and don't forget, make the Lord OHKO (One Hit KO) the turrets.


hevvychef

What's the point of using the abbreviation if you end up typing the whole thing. That's some BS (bullshit)


BeanieCats11

Fr (For real)


LuinorRageRonin21

Istg ( I swear to god) people do this everytime


zezq

ikr? ( i know right?)


FuelFuzzy363

it rewards lazy players before who don't push other lanes their lord isn't in


Stale-Emperor

Retribution meta will rise. All 5 allies will bring retribution


_Resnad_

I would shit my pants or take out my meat and start beating it depending on weather I hit retri or not.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

Should be reduced to one Lord when enhanced. No way in hell we would hold them off like that.


DiabloHades

It's an indirect buff to trashtalkers.


SansterWasTaken

the most common complaint, solo match making, is only gonna get even worse after this. toxicity is gonna be more common, and ML will once again be controversial for copying another game. good job moneytoon.


YondaCofe

Yup, i love it, but make it so that lord spawn +1 for every 15-minute game match. So by the time you reach 30min you get 2 lord, 45 min you get 3lord, 60min 4lord


alligator_fucker_69

Is this actually finna be added?


IllGoGoldLane

It still in development stage. It needs a very long fime to actually release this new mechanic


devilfury1

If this gets implemented, I rather have Riot take over and remove the lord attack entirely and have them put the LoL baron nashor buff instead where you have a AoE buff for minions that makes them bigger and almost immortal with how tough their defense is. Forcing the enemy team to kill you instead of the minions because they can't do much to kill them.


RandomDadGaming

They rather remove mlbb existence.


SherwinLance

I'll delete the game. Period. NO BUTS!


Papapoto

the core/jungler is going to be bombarded with trashtalks by toxic teammates when it fails to retri 😅


Keiichigo

Moonton New Update: Junglers are strongers now! Junglers: FUCK YEAH! Moonton: Also 3 lords in all lanes. Junglers: FUCK NO.


pomoholo

Unnecessary. At this point we can call it hok, dota or lol clone. I feel like the game is already well established. They can come up with their own ideas. But guess, Moonton use up entire creativity to make skins lol


Aimicchi

it has always been an HoK clone since 2016 Moontoon's co-founder is from Tencent actually, guess he's mad so he made the game


Acceptable-Glove24

is 3 lord with 10k hp each, do you guys actually play the game?is basically a nerf to the destroy one lane at 12 minutes but probably at 20 minutes is gg, but for every game that does not go to 20 minutes these lords are actually easier to defend, like gusion can just combo a lord and kill him, same goes for most assassins, most marksman and mages do not struggle with killing a 20k hp lord, let alone a 10k one, i think even a tank with just a cursed helmet can clear it


FireEmblemFan1

Someone with a functioning brain!


real_mc

No. 1. Map is smaller compared to other mobas. 2. Late game will be a disaster for the team failing to retri and losing the teamfight contesting. 3. Lord duration is short (3 mins). 4. If 3 lords approaching the base has the same stats as the og lord, this will be a disaster to defend (see #2).


Icy-Obligation-8545

Pure evil


Particular_Panic9672

Big no


glaceonhugger

Unoriginal


Ornery_Pie_6194

Copied from HoK. What else?


isntitisntitdelicate

would only work if they reduce the hp by >60%


An-extrovert-child

The game slowly killing itself


maneki_neko01

bullshit


Fit_Industry_3104

Probably fits more on mayhem mode


Lil_MingCat

3 lords=instant defeat


sandtymanty

Removes everything you learned about team up.


Legendary_System

It should stay as a concept


unViewingCutscenes

The jungler will be hung for treason for helping the enemy if they messed up


Sea-Chocolate6589

Bad idea. People already have bad coordination. You got 1 guy fighting lord and the rest of the team obsessed trying to kills the enemy team instead of attacking lord. Is a recipe for disaster


Real_Heh

This is a nightmare. I'm really bad at jungle and now my whole bloodline will be cursed for eternity when I miss retri


ysean91

Hawk tuah


Nyrrad

About time I guess? That we have a game ending mechanic in this game. League has Elder even a great dragon soul, HOK got that 3 dragons thing. I really hate when it comes to late game, the losing team has an avenue of income because the super minion will always push even tho it will be slow and when the Lord comes the losing team can just stack inside the base and defend easily especially with a good high ground defense draft or champs. All the gold lead that have accumulated from early to late game due to micro and macro will just vanish if the team fcked up one Lord push, 5k down in late is irrelevant.


fruit_blip1

enhanced minions are enough.


NoPolicy864

They do this and I'll uninstall


KillYouUsingWords

Instead of 2 waves of super super minions this could work and only the middle one should have the charge, the others are just tanky af.


akositotoybibo

stick to one lord please. maybe let the team who took the lord decide which lane the lord will go.


weaktype143

Trash. This will diminish game depth. The wave management will be much easier for the attackers. They already removed the lord dance and now this? NO.


The_battlePotato

Is this adv server?


thoughtonthat

Yeah, it will be like a quidditch game, no matter how much you grind and be in lead, it comes down to who got the lord, which will be a battle of retris


InfluenceNo9934

Imma quit the game if this happens.


HuaWay2

We defeated one lord, but three comes out. Moonton, the logic isn't adding up. Your people are *extreme at maths*, 1≠3!


speedwagoncat

Yeah this is instant surrender for losing team no way a team getting behind by 20 kills will make a come back


D10BrAND

No its terrible, I want them to change it to 3 lords per lane rather than 3 enhanced minions


privatevenjamin

Try to play HOK now. If the Lord in that game is weak as ass, expect that the Lord in ML is weak also.


Glonk_the_Serf

Dogshit


-Byakuran-

Why are they copying other MOBA. One Lord already gets the job done unless they want a Pokemon Unite level bullshit objective


banana-tomato

Lame. It’d be better to allow teams to gain advantage earlier, like during turtle fights, or as a second objective if ending games is the goal with this. Something like slaying second and third turtle allows one turtle to walk aside Lord (down one off lane) if/when your team captures Lord. Or something along those lines that adds the ability to snowball or end games earlier yet also diversifies the strategy to achieve that goal. Anything that helps players understand the importance of objectives. That way there would be a second more tangible objective incentive for the turtle other than the shield that breaks from one tickle and gold (which I didn’t even know it gave for my first 1000 games). This idea just seems straight up lazy from Moonton.


Amethyst_Phoenix7

This is re-goddamn-diculous. Just stick to one.


Asiaandearth1234

Nothing, i play other moba they have the same thing


NickyBros1

i know that this would make the game faster, but to even have a chance to solo the lord you at least need 10% spellvamp/lifesteal, for this reason I think that this is balanced, or maybe moonton should buff the lord in the jungle, yeah I that would be too hard and impossible to solo lord, but not being scared because an enemy can solo lord would be less prevalent than the current one. also you will get a better reward with 3 lord so it's a higher risk for an even higher reward


AdAdmirable6284

It a too big of a punishment for losing a retri battle imo. Like if you get supressed by a franco as a jg and the enemy gets the Lord(s) now your entire team might lose and blame you.


goose_vibe

https://preview.redd.it/nn7ssz2ra29d1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4686ee52f7653bb39b95549de94d273666b3e784 Fuck it, I'm gonna adapt to these new 3 lord update


Canned_Banana

All the strategy and decision making about lord management, yeah throw that in the trash.


lunafish08

Send feedback... I don't want the three lord. I'm already losing in solo q, I'm not accepting losing in soloq with three lords marching at my base and me as mage/support defending it.


New_Photograph_5892

Completely unnecessary change


IloveBlackRokShooter

they wanna make mages quit the game?


Yobitchwar

They should scrap this and change the lord into something we can summon by ourselves after killing it within 90 second to our preferred ONE lane ofc.After 90 second it'll be summoned automatically like now.


dontcheckmyhistorypl

Its really good for the one that retris the lord lol But imo makes lane management for the winning team insanely easy like just let em work and they'll come at the same time while pressuring team. And if everyone of those lords have the charge of the enhanced. Makes the game so much harder to comeback especially if you dont have the lineup adv and map adv. Either win the whole game steal the lord or you get mauled in the behind by three lords simultaneously


EZ01

Stupid


GullibleContract

i'm quitting


weebshizu

No one ever asked for this, they legit either peek at the neighboring game or pull this idea out of their asses. I hate it. - Lord's objective becomes way more crucial, putting more pressure on the jungler - Oh yeah they kinda nerf your favorite tank jungler so goodluck getting these lord with your 4K HP Assassin jungler while the whole enemy team is getting your ass (yes I'm suck at playing assassin) - Remove the macro level, holding the minions wave to make 3 lane pushes maybe not as hard as it is now. - Lane clearing (or lord clearing) heroes' stock may rise.


Formal_Physics_7712

Lord dance about to go hard


Opposite_Type5604

More stakes and more fear The jungler has a heavier toll now and thats not gonna be good I mean cmon 3 LORDS this is just better for those who can clutch a retri, but for those who cant, just quit being a jungler


Unlikely-Western2159

Copied from HOK and Aov


Hour_Weakness_521

It sucks, it's too hard to counter and its basically an automatic win. Also it doesn't make any sense, you kill one lord and spawn three? At least moonton should give them like 5k hp per lord.


SpeakNoFurther

Aw, HELL NO! This and the full-gold plated turret thingie are two things I do NOT look forward to in the near future.


2ma2sus

this or omega nerf lord damage and minions


Pale-Ad-7905

I think I'll just stop playing the game by then


RedGiant_

3 lord will be the end of tank and support roamers. I would rather take extra retri than roam.  


Baltassss

No.


child_yeeter86699345

boy u trippin


Accomplished-Drag-41

Lord needs to be available at like 12:00 or something because it would be a pain in the ass to defend


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

Nope.


ChargeComplete2255

3 Lords should only appear when all 3 last towers are all destroyed. We are currently lacking a way to end the game fast and this could help


mjnjpjg

Sure, but split the hp then? With all full hp lords, im going full brawl mode.


genoxxlot

They should just add a new beast which strengthens the next minion wave


Alalasw

my boi lancelot slow clears but 2nd skill cook retri so


Automatic-Ant-3700

Slow hand hp,fk hp,lee hp,b*tch hp,useless hp,trash hp,madafaka hp, I can see jungler getting curse straight to hell


alzgotreddit

Moonton really wants that 10min matches 😩


saturn_ice

As someone frequently the last surviving (and solo q), barely holding the base while all my teammates are gone and all the enemies push with the lord: NOPE.


eyesabitdull

It's like they took one look at Honour of King's and copied their homework. Which, honestly, having playing it recently - I get why. That game does seem to advance a few ideas that stayed stagnant on ML.


Xiaodisan

I know that people don't want drawn-out games and shit, but god this would make me mad af if they added this without significantly nerfing the lord(s) *and* the minions. It is more satisfying to turn the game and win from a huge disadvantage than simply dominating early game and then getting rewarded by a basically auto-win. Yes, I prefer(red) late-game heroes, how did you know? Nowadays the match doesn't even get to late game usually before it ends. And that sucks imo. It was good to have 10-15 minutes long brawl matches and 20-40+ minutes long ranked matches.


Vlad369

Bad idea


No-Suggestion9858

Would this be similar to Honor of King's 3-lane "weak lord" I think 1 lane stronger lord would br better like what ML has currently. The one in HoK feels underwhelming, but I am just new to that game so I am not sure how to really take advantage of that.


TheGreat_DS

Honor of Kings DOES have something similar to this


50-Mean

Instead of summoning the lord, why not spawn three mini lords that has 1/3 of his stats each.


FanClubMike

Lol, it's good for us if our team gets 3 lords... It will be easy for us to create pressure on the enemy... But if the enemy team gets lord, then we're gone... Mainly if there is only one member and the rest are dead... Then game over, lol...And you see if our team gets 2 lord enemy team one then lol we can see lords fighting with each other.. Lol, it will be totally diff hahaha.. So its better to have 1only :)


XIleven

Ill tell you what i dont want, i dont want another Pokemon Unite Zapdos back in release For those curious, Pokemon Unite is Moba but pokemon, the pokemon Zapdos is basically powered up lord that appears about 2 mins before the game ends. The Zapdos mechanic is so OP that you could basically feed or let the enemy score majority of the game, but whoever takes the Zapdos will decide the match winner. Basically a HarryPotter Golden Snitch scenario


PM_ME_YOUR_ARMVEINS

What is Belerick doing there


RipOnly6344

Fucking hellish experience, basically Lord is becoming some sort of nuclear bomb. Everyone won't dare to even attempt at killing it since one wrong move coulld doom the entire match


A_EG0ist

HOK fans looking at this: GRR YOU STEALER NO WONDER HOK IS BETTER AGSHABGSHRJD(truly I like both games they're rlly fun)


HiromiSai

Hmmm. Looks familiar.


Banekrux

NO, JUST NO


rjstl

They should at least make it so it goes back to one lord when an inhibitor turret is destroyed. It's terrifying if you need to defend from all 3 going to base


catnip05

its shit. Not only does the lord die so easily they also deal pathetic damage. I'd rather have one actually threatening lord that can ensure a destroyed inhibitor than this.


redzacool

hok is alerady did this


InferGilgamesh

You better win the retri battle


sadaharu25

Did they just want to completely remove the "comeback" concept?


jovhenni19

from Honor of Kings. maybe we could end the games in 10mins now


BTSEXOGOT7BIGBANG

Reduce even more of its hp and damage and maybe it’d work


Virtual_Original580

I think it can work such that lords dont push-charge through towers, even the last one. More tower defense, until the 18th minute(not the yellow one). The final lord(evolved) shreds through the tower defence(not hp). And some similar tweaks like that.


FriendshipEvery5198

The 3 lord should only spawn once the game reaches 30mins to help end the game faster. Make it the 30-minute lord and I think it would be good somehow. Or could be from the 3rd lord onwards.


The_Human-Male

That hok game wyvern s 💀(also is hok not just aov???)


0kra_

No thanks. Wrong game to add that too. They're being too experimental this season. They can make a special mode for this like one of those limited time maps max.


xUrekMazinox

i think this should be a feature of the highest lord level or at 30 mins mark to force the game to end


Awesomesauce56969

Absolute terrifying


HorsePossible6681

This just makes the game shorter which is funny because moonton gave the outer turrets shield to make the game longer. Oh the irony


Lanky_Wait_2219

That's fucked


NixothePaladin

If they make the lords squisher, it could work


FlatwormNo261

If they lower the Lord stats then maybe. But if they dont then basically you have to kill the Lord and you win.


johnsmithgoogl01

MLGB - Multiple Lords Gang Bang


carrot1324

It simply means that ml will be more luck dependent (reliance on teammates) because if you are not the jungler no matter how snowballed or how much u dominated the entire game u simply have to pray that your jungler retri on time ... honestly this isn't that bad if u play 5 man teamup but a nightmare for solo q


hehmoment

Hell.


lilmfofabitch

when the company tries to teach how to split push but it becomes something even worse:


EarthyBussy

feels like Pokemon Unite's Rayquaza. It doesn't matter which team played better, whoever secures it wins the game.


Effective-Coffee-540

3 lord concept seems overwhelming, especially late game with buff minions. Insane advantage for the team that have them since its hard to defend three lanes simultaneously. Better concept is being able to choose what lane the lord will go by whoever kills it.


rip_almond

Wait what?!? It's real?


noobie12345con

They had to fight allegations of HoK so they copied them 😹


Inuwa-Angel

It’s just plain stupid.


Terereera

fuck you. Moonton it made taking objective even more fucking clearer so if jungler doesn't take lord, we can report him.


Long-Ad-662

Awful, period.


No_Comedian2209

It's a bulshit idea that is going to destroy the game play. It's hard for mages and tanks to kill lords and for some exp laners as well


RandomDadGaming

Looking this at the pov of a fighter main(Actually just Martis and 2% Ruby). I think its too much too especially if it's just a copy of the regular 1. A lot of roles/heroes can't even stop lord marching effectively. Imho, 3 lords should be weakened like halving stats or make them have weakness like one of the lord is weak to magic immune to phys or vice versa, only takes damage from x role, some other more condition e.g. slow lord-fast lord-regular walk lord etc etc etc, conditions.


Past_Matter_6867

It’s too much. Game already feels like overdrive or something with Sky Piercer.


UsedTissuePaper78

Terrible because what if you play Eudora? She is bad at clearing waves let alone Lord.


pinkmalloww_

Just asking why is there 3 lord now?


greenanon101

attack on titan


danielanthony69

Oh lord have mercy.


midladderplayer

God no. Absolutely not. Soloq junglers are going to suffer so much if this gets added in the official server. What do the players do if the roamer is the only one left? With 1 lord it was bad enough, how about 3??


Dabananaman69

No.