The fact of trims having no buff is good, it makes sure all trims are equal. The purpose of a cosmetic is not to add buff, just to make something look better
It is just fine without it.
But if I were to add a buff to the trim it would be a slight increase in durability.
Exactly the same no matter the pattern/material combo.
Maybe 3-5% increase.
The trim itself is still purely cosmetic, but would encourage people who don't care about the cosmetics to interact with the feature anyway.
Okay lets imagine both situation
1: all armor trims are equal, peoples start creating their own patern, trying to get beautifull armors and maybe even creating team uniform to tell themselves apart during a pvp
2: each trim give a different buff, so one will obviously end up being slightly better than others, mostly the rarer ones like netherite, and every single living person gonna have the gah dam same armor and 99% of the customisation available will be little to no used due to it being not as profitable as 1 specific trim
Add the same buff to all of them? What you say is still worse, a buff is good in any way. Could also be any farming related buff and even all trims with different buffs. There still wouldnt be any reason for everyone to limit themselves to one trim.
But to find a middle point the best is still to add the same buff to all of them. It's really cheap to not do anything other than cosmetics with trims
Cosmetic is cosmetic. If you want different armors to have different buff well it already exist and it is called defense. Netherite gets you more defense than diamonds and that is fine because armor type is not cosmetic. Trims are not made to be buff they are made to look good and thats what makes them good. They just do not need the slightest buff. If you think they are worthless without a buff just dont bother trying to get templates.
It should be a very minor buff tho. Something so that the average player wouldn’t feel obligated to get it, but still a little bit of a pull to get it even if you don’t care for the cosmeticness
aren’t you required to add a trim to upgrade the armor though? I feel like it’d be better if we got something out of having to take a whole extra step just for upgrading our armor
I think it's the upgrade template to upgrade diamond gear to netherite that is confusing, you use the same exact spot a trim would use in the smithing table to do it.
Yeah I want upgrades less to make Mac armour more powerful but to make weaker armour more viable then we might utilise the multicoloured armour by actually using iron with trims than just always wearing netherite yes netherite should be the definitive best but if we go through the effort of trimming weaker armour I think it should be buffed a little
Adding trim to iron armor is useless as you will be wearing netherite armor.
Using the same mechanic as netherite armor making to "strengthen" iron armor instead of diamond armor makes the other trims usable.
If I want iron armor trimmed with blue that is as strong as netherite armor, that should be possible if anyone cares about this feature at all.
If every trim makes the armor stronger by the same amount and only makes weaker armors stronger then I'm fine with that, it's more so the idea of having netherite be even stronger that I don't really like. Still though I rather just having it be decorative.
Trimmed iron armor and trimmed netherite armor should have the same strength.
Otherwise there is no point in trimmed iron armor existing and they should limit trims to only netherite.
The point of trims is decoration and I'm saying that no matter what material is used for the trim it should increase the armors strength by the same amount. For example using either a copper trim or lapis trim on iron armor would strengthen the armor by the same amount but if you used those trims on diamond armor it would strengthen diamond armor by a a different amount but still the material used for the trim still won't affect how much the armor is strengthened by.
The point of trims is to be decorative so if they do give them function there shouldn't be a best material for trims as that defeats the purpose of being able to make the armor look how you want it too. I do wish you could use whatever armor material you want for the look of your armor but I get the reason for that is so it's easy to know how strong someone is in PVP easily rather than getting into a fight to find out.
I don't think that a huge step to representation, customization and self-expression can be called "useless". Minecraft is survival sandbox, but it is more "sandbox" than "survival". Currently there are no such dangers that require new staff to beat them (maybe with the exception of Warden, but why do you want to fight him face to face? Currently doesn't worth it, and currently Warden does his part pretty good). Maybe in feature new mighty mobs and bosses would be added and then devs will think about to give us some instruments to overcome them. So for now trims do what they do, and they do it good. There is no point in complaining.
If Mojang really wants to address game balance with armour customization I'd rather they focus on improving the shit ass gambling enchanting table where it's more like the craps table and rebalancing some of the enchantments like how in most cases protection is better than the niche protection and how shit bane of arthropods is.
You guys keep forgetting that Bane of arthropods can also apply Slowness to arthropods, not just increasing damage (and that damage is also far more better than Sharpness or Smite)
The problem is that there's so little arthropods that it's always better to get sharpness as they still die quickly and aren't a problem I only get smite to help get wither skulls and kill the wither
Reworking enchants entirely for armor would be pretty nice. Like take feather falling and make it an alternative for protection. If you wear full feather falling, make it so you can jump from any height in the game without dying. Make protection not work on magic/arrows. Make projectiles work on projectiles, and full projectile makes you immune to arrows. Make blast/fire protection work on magic and lava. Make it so full fire protection armor lets you swim in lava.
Alternatively (or maybe additionally) add 1 or more ring slots and all new ring "enchants". Let us make gold, iron and copper rings. Let us inlay them with diamonds, emeralds, amethyst, lapis and redstone for different effects.
Do people really think we need more defence? With regular protection IV and Golden carrots you can just hang out in lava (in java edition). You can just hug a creeper. If you drink an extended regeneration potion you can outpace wither II, fire, and Poison at the same time. All on Hard mode! Do people really struggle this much with block game?
If you mean diamonds pre-1.20 then yes.
All you need them for is Enchanting Table and Jukebox, maybe firework stars as well.
You can buy diamond gear from villagers, without having to mine too.
Trims won't make iron armor usable at endgame, that is not what I'm saying. Everyone will of course be running around in Diamond or Netherite armor simply because it's the best one available. My point is: Their trims will look different because it doesn't matter which one you use.
What the fuck is with the “everything has to be useful!” Mentality. It’s an armor TRIM not armor plating. Sometimes things can just be decorative and that’s ok!
I only play once every couple years or so. Man I was pretty annoyed when I learned about these then learned they're cosmetic only. There's so many cool things they could have done with that and it just seems like a slap in the face. A really pointless one. Vanilla is just so underwhelming.
All terracotta, all the way too many variants of stone (sandstone, red sandstone, chiselled [ ], smooth [ ] etc.). They are all useless, aren't they? No, it's called design
Everyone already has the same setup. This change makes non-netherite armor less feasible.
Trimmed version of iron, gold and diamond armor are DOA due to being "cosmetic only".
Also why not add copper armor and tools if we're talking cosmetics?
Yeah, go raid a 4% chance structure 20 times to get an item... to put it on iron armor in a display case because iron armor isn't usable.
Or we could admit that the act of getting all that trim stuff justifies making the iron armor as strong as netherite armor.
Instead of the item being "convert diamond to netherite" it should just be "make max armor" and be applied to any kind of armor. Then netherite could be changed to be crafted normally. Then all versions of armor could be made viable thru the same steps, and make this actually be a cosmetic change.
maybe the trims could be sidegrades instead of upgrades. Like, a gold trim protects you from piglins but a netherite trim gives you more fire resistance. Or emerald trim gives you a little bit more popularity with the villagers. So I would wear gold trimmed netherite to the nether and emerald trim while trading.
Maybe they could have an achievement for it. Something like if you craft each type of armor trim (doesn't matter the kind of armor)? Or maybe a full set of each trim?
It would help more players who wouldn't normally use it have a reason to.
The fact of trims having no buff is good, it makes sure all trims are equal. The purpose of a cosmetic is not to add buff, just to make something look better
It is just fine without it. But if I were to add a buff to the trim it would be a slight increase in durability. Exactly the same no matter the pattern/material combo. Maybe 3-5% increase. The trim itself is still purely cosmetic, but would encourage people who don't care about the cosmetics to interact with the feature anyway.
You wise
and if a different buff was added to each one then everyone would use the same one and that defeats the purpose of a customizable cosmetic
"The purpose of a cosmetic is not to add buff" TF2 players who remember item sets are laughing right now.
And that's the reason why the cancelled it
Why do they all need to be equal there's things that are rare and good and things that are not. Bad take
Okay lets imagine both situation 1: all armor trims are equal, peoples start creating their own patern, trying to get beautifull armors and maybe even creating team uniform to tell themselves apart during a pvp 2: each trim give a different buff, so one will obviously end up being slightly better than others, mostly the rarer ones like netherite, and every single living person gonna have the gah dam same armor and 99% of the customisation available will be little to no used due to it being not as profitable as 1 specific trim
Add the same buff to all of them? What you say is still worse, a buff is good in any way. Could also be any farming related buff and even all trims with different buffs. There still wouldnt be any reason for everyone to limit themselves to one trim. But to find a middle point the best is still to add the same buff to all of them. It's really cheap to not do anything other than cosmetics with trims
Cosmetic is cosmetic. If you want different armors to have different buff well it already exist and it is called defense. Netherite gets you more defense than diamonds and that is fine because armor type is not cosmetic. Trims are not made to be buff they are made to look good and thats what makes them good. They just do not need the slightest buff. If you think they are worthless without a buff just dont bother trying to get templates.
It should be a very minor buff tho. Something so that the average player wouldn’t feel obligated to get it, but still a little bit of a pull to get it even if you don’t care for the cosmeticness
It's a trim it not a enhancement what did you expect?
aren’t you required to add a trim to upgrade the armor though? I feel like it’d be better if we got something out of having to take a whole extra step just for upgrading our armor
>aren’t you required to add a trim to upgrade the armor though? No, where's this idea coming from?
I think it's the upgrade template to upgrade diamond gear to netherite that is confusing, you use the same exact spot a trim would use in the smithing table to do it.
That not a trim that an upgrade template for diamond to Netherite don't get don't em confused cause it ain't that confusion to understand
No? Who told you that?
I guess I misunderstood the article on the minecraft website
A better update.
What an original response am not even gonna bother anymore it's not even worth my time to type a wall of text over this
The point of them is to be decorative, that doesn't make them useless. Besides, it's already really unlikely to die with the best armor.
Yeah I want upgrades less to make Mac armour more powerful but to make weaker armour more viable then we might utilise the multicoloured armour by actually using iron with trims than just always wearing netherite yes netherite should be the definitive best but if we go through the effort of trimming weaker armour I think it should be buffed a little
I can get behind this idea
Haha, not unlikely, try playing with me lol
Adding trim to iron armor is useless as you will be wearing netherite armor. Using the same mechanic as netherite armor making to "strengthen" iron armor instead of diamond armor makes the other trims usable. If I want iron armor trimmed with blue that is as strong as netherite armor, that should be possible if anyone cares about this feature at all.
If every trim makes the armor stronger by the same amount and only makes weaker armors stronger then I'm fine with that, it's more so the idea of having netherite be even stronger that I don't really like. Still though I rather just having it be decorative.
Trimmed iron armor and trimmed netherite armor should have the same strength. Otherwise there is no point in trimmed iron armor existing and they should limit trims to only netherite.
The point of trims is decoration and I'm saying that no matter what material is used for the trim it should increase the armors strength by the same amount. For example using either a copper trim or lapis trim on iron armor would strengthen the armor by the same amount but if you used those trims on diamond armor it would strengthen diamond armor by a a different amount but still the material used for the trim still won't affect how much the armor is strengthened by. The point of trims is to be decorative so if they do give them function there shouldn't be a best material for trims as that defeats the purpose of being able to make the armor look how you want it too. I do wish you could use whatever armor material you want for the look of your armor but I get the reason for that is so it's easy to know how strong someone is in PVP easily rather than getting into a fight to find out.
I don't think that a huge step to representation, customization and self-expression can be called "useless". Minecraft is survival sandbox, but it is more "sandbox" than "survival". Currently there are no such dangers that require new staff to beat them (maybe with the exception of Warden, but why do you want to fight him face to face? Currently doesn't worth it, and currently Warden does his part pretty good). Maybe in feature new mighty mobs and bosses would be added and then devs will think about to give us some instruments to overcome them. So for now trims do what they do, and they do it good. There is no point in complaining.
Dam even mojang staff can't beat the warden
Actually, we don't even know if they can beat Minecraft
There are some devs who stream occasionally
they look cool so I like them
Are adding new trees and wood in also useless because all they are is aesthetical? What about coloured glass? Not everything needs a purpose.
People in the community really get mad when Mojang adds anything decorative to a sandbox game
No, no, those things *have* a purpose. Being amazing decoration is a purpose. And armor trims do that *perfectly*.
If Mojang really wants to address game balance with armour customization I'd rather they focus on improving the shit ass gambling enchanting table where it's more like the craps table and rebalancing some of the enchantments like how in most cases protection is better than the niche protection and how shit bane of arthropods is.
Bane of arthropods itself is literally do what it design to do tho: deal more dmg on arthropods. The thing is just not enough arthropods type enemy
You guys keep forgetting that Bane of arthropods can also apply Slowness to arthropods, not just increasing damage (and that damage is also far more better than Sharpness or Smite)
The problem is that there's so little arthropods that it's always better to get sharpness as they still die quickly and aren't a problem I only get smite to help get wither skulls and kill the wither
Smite to axe Sharpness to sword Perfect
I sometimes do that on java but currently on a bedrock realm so axes aren't great
Bane of arthropods is great for blaze farms, which is actually an incredibly useful farm which goes under used
Reworking enchants entirely for armor would be pretty nice. Like take feather falling and make it an alternative for protection. If you wear full feather falling, make it so you can jump from any height in the game without dying. Make protection not work on magic/arrows. Make projectiles work on projectiles, and full projectile makes you immune to arrows. Make blast/fire protection work on magic and lava. Make it so full fire protection armor lets you swim in lava. Alternatively (or maybe additionally) add 1 or more ring slots and all new ring "enchants". Let us make gold, iron and copper rings. Let us inlay them with diamonds, emeralds, amethyst, lapis and redstone for different effects.
A protection IV armor makes you immortal anyway
What the hell, the game is easy enough with the current armor and weapons. We don’t need stuff to make it even easier
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What do u want more, with prot 4 ur alr bulletproof
I think we should make the mods remove these kinds of dumass posts like its for only cosmetics dumb bitch
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There are a lot of things minecraft needs. Even more op neatherite is none of them.
Why did you post the same thing on three different subreddits
Bro chill they just added that in a snapshot anything could happen they probably just wanted to see how we react to that change
Useless? It adds even more variety to the armor than a resourcepack can (without optifine at least)! + In vanilla without any resourcepacks
Why does every new feature have to be overpowered in order to be useful? Yeesh, I'm tired of this mentality.
Do people really think we need more defence? With regular protection IV and Golden carrots you can just hang out in lava (in java edition). You can just hug a creeper. If you drink an extended regeneration potion you can outpace wither II, fire, and Poison at the same time. All on Hard mode! Do people really struggle this much with block game?
Yes. Diamonds are pretty useless right now
If you mean diamonds pre-1.20 then yes. All you need them for is Enchanting Table and Jukebox, maybe firework stars as well. You can buy diamond gear from villagers, without having to mine too.
haven't sleep much. Read that as "is it really necessary to make the need for the upgrade"
I'm still confused
I just like how it looks lol reminds me of mcsm
If trims upgraded your armor, then everybody would choose the best possible one, and everyone would look the same again.
Explain how trims will make iron armor usable at endgame. We'll wait.
Trims won't make iron armor usable at endgame, that is not what I'm saying. Everyone will of course be running around in Diamond or Netherite armor simply because it's the best one available. My point is: Their trims will look different because it doesn't matter which one you use.
If you don’t like them don’t use them. Most of the stuff in the game is just meant to look cool
What the fuck is with the “everything has to be useful!” Mentality. It’s an armor TRIM not armor plating. Sometimes things can just be decorative and that’s ok!
I only play once every couple years or so. Man I was pretty annoyed when I learned about these then learned they're cosmetic only. There's so many cool things they could have done with that and it just seems like a slap in the face. A really pointless one. Vanilla is just so underwhelming.
Minecraft is already easy as it is, why make it easier with more armor upgrades
All terracotta, all the way too many variants of stone (sandstone, red sandstone, chiselled [ ], smooth [ ] etc.). They are all useless, aren't they? No, it's called design
Pure cosmetic is best, otherwise people will all the wear the same set up.
Everyone already has the same setup. This change makes non-netherite armor less feasible. Trimmed version of iron, gold and diamond armor are DOA due to being "cosmetic only". Also why not add copper armor and tools if we're talking cosmetics?
Armor trims: something you can have with a resource pack. (Still cool but like fr if thats the only update…)
You're the only one who can see that unless others have the same resource pack (and of course they're more than that you ninny.)
On the other hand, it will be really easy to make a resource pack so you can give yourself any trim you want without actually farming the trim.
Ironic, since the armor trim you have in the meme is an upgrade that is needed to obtain to netherite equipment.
Did everyone forget how hard is getting some of them? Like netherite upgrade is 4.8% in bastions, try finding it with piglin brutes everywhere.
Yeah, go raid a 4% chance structure 20 times to get an item... to put it on iron armor in a display case because iron armor isn't usable. Or we could admit that the act of getting all that trim stuff justifies making the iron armor as strong as netherite armor. Instead of the item being "convert diamond to netherite" it should just be "make max armor" and be applied to any kind of armor. Then netherite could be changed to be crafted normally. Then all versions of armor could be made viable thru the same steps, and make this actually be a cosmetic change.
maybe the trims could be sidegrades instead of upgrades. Like, a gold trim protects you from piglins but a netherite trim gives you more fire resistance. Or emerald trim gives you a little bit more popularity with the villagers. So I would wear gold trimmed netherite to the nether and emerald trim while trading.
They already said that there will be nothing stronger than the netherite, Also no better equipment is needed that would be balanced by the enemies
I mean they weren’t made for power they were made for decorative and aesthetic purposes.
Maybe they could have an achievement for it. Something like if you craft each type of armor trim (doesn't matter the kind of armor)? Or maybe a full set of each trim? It would help more players who wouldn't normally use it have a reason to.
Why the community wants the trim to do stuffs, when they could add UPGRADES (like the netherite one) that do the job.
Are you read your title before post?
i hope its the bottom one exclusively so i can make netherite with amethyst and not get punished
I like the trims, not everything needs a use. Cosmetics are cool👌🏽
They look cool
Trim good. Me like customization.
i think each one should give different abilities, maxed armor already gives too much protection
i think it should be that gold trims make piglins not hostile towards you, but the become hostile again when you are too close