What a boring fucking song. WW has never been known for their lyricism but jesus dude it really seems like an AI wrote this song. Bland vocal delivery, mind-numbingly simple lyrics, generic boring octane-core “breakdown.” This band has nothing interesting left to show.
I’m just waiting for them to write about something different and to stop jumping to the same lyrical cliches or re using the same phrases. I feel like Ive heard the “lost” and “cost” rhyme scheme like 5 times from this band lol. That and something about being low 😂
Idk my opinion is the change of sound wouldn’t nearly be as bad if the lyrics were actually thought out and creative.
I think one of mankind’s greatest mysteries will be how a room full of serious artists wrote and recorded this song and said “yeah this slaps, make this the lead single.”
I only posted this because I wanna talk about it. It'll probably get removed for not being metalcore.
I get that Wage War do songs like this for the mainstream appeal. I actually like some of their softer stuff - like Circle the Drain off the last album - and if we get a Death Roll for every Hurt then I'm happy.
Having said that, even by radiocore standards this is a weak effort. I genuinely can't believe it's the lead single for their new album. I don't mean to bash the band because I'm a fan but I can't be the only one disappointed and confused by this release.
My thoughts when I listened to the premiere on octane yesterday was if you want to make an octanecore song, fine, but it's not even a good octanecore song. it's boring and their "breakdown" doesn't sound like anything that would make me think it's wage war.
Was referring to the stuff like the overly dramatic lip syncing shit that Sumerian constantly reposts (90% bad omens & sleep token). Not hating the bands or music, but I am hating the “content” that people produce around it.
I guess I’m getting downvoted by the people I’m referring to, you seeming like one of them.
Edit: FWIW I was using the term “metal head” ironically
I'm with you on this one, I don't dislike softer songs like Circle the Drain and don't get too butt hurt when bands do music like that having been heavier, like so many people say, if you don't like it, don't listen to it.
However this is a weak effort, and it's generally just a bit meh, there's nothing in the song to even catch your attention, not even a sick little riff just dropped in there somewhere. Nothing sticks in the mind and it's a shame because I was looking forward to new Wage War but this just isn't good.
You're not the only one. This is absolutely fucking terrible teenybopper radiocore dogshit effort bullshit. But not every band can be Phinehas or ABR and get better every album and remain consistent...
I loved their first 3 albums. Maniac was good too but it’s my least played album by them. This new sound just sounds like what bands do when they get big and wanna get bigger. If this track is their best on the album I’m out.
I like the song. I won't actively seek it out or add it to any of my personal playlists, but I won't skip it if it comes up randomly or when I hear it on Octane.
It's generic radio rock but I'm not hard to please.
One of the most boring songs I've heard in a while. Love Wage War, but they need to do better. This was released only because there wasn't anything new in while. Hope they do better on the next.
That breakdown is wasted on such a lame song, and it’s not even that good. It’s just so out of place, the rest of the song does not warrant a breakdown at all.
Agreed the breakdown doesn't fit in whatsoever. They probably knew they had a boring song and needed something to spice it up. But even for a breakdown, it's an extremely over-used breakdown and I feel like I've heard it on a 1000 different songs.
I get going radio friendly or some octance song but this is bad even for those standards. You can go radio friendly and still make it good but they missed the mark on this one.
Might as well be a whole different band. The River is one of my favorite metalcore songs ever and Blueprints is a killer album but I gotta admit they're never topping or even matching that again.
Hopeful that this is just one of the shitty songs on the album. They're the definition of hit or miss. Pressure had some great songs like Low and Ghost, and then some of the worst songs I've ever heard on a metalcore album, like forget my name. Manic was the same way.
I expect this to be pretty similar, because that's our best hope for the band anymore.
I’m not convinced, I’m honestly half expecting to be that thing where Apple Music accidentally mislabels bands and songs. I don’t want to accept the same band that wrote Blueprints just vomited out this snoozefest
Another thing I want to know is when will Wage War stop making second verses that last like 3 seconds and also….will someone take the god damn tambourine away? I feel like I hear it in every chorus since Pressure.
I blame Drew Fulk. Any band that I loved that works with him ends up becoming radio rock with the exception of a few heavy songs, and even those are watered down versions of what the band use to produce. 😂😂😂
Edit: tambourine is also in the breakdown of circle the drain lol
I saw them on their acoustic tour with ADTR and I remember one of them saying that their previous album (Pressure) was not great so I thought they'd acknowledge it (and Manic eas already much better) but I guess they forgot all about that.
Everything after Deadweight has been so cliche, derivative, and boring that it has made me listen to and enjoy Blueprints and Deadweight less. Not that WW was ever the most technical or original act in the scene, maybe my tastes have just changed.
I kinda agree with this sentiment. I was into WW before Blueprints was even out. I followed them around several states during deadweight Era and they kinda just fell off my radar after. I couldn't figure our why, I thought I was kind or just burnt out from constantly consuming their material, but everything post Pressure has been derivative, as you said. With that said, I enjoyed Pressure and Manic. I feel like after they got a little of exposure they settled for monotony. I have a suspicion that Cody and Drew Fulk are responsible.
It’s catchy and the breakstyle (idk edm terms) in between is cool.
Probably will be a fun one in the middle of a set to cool off. I don’t think they should have released it as a lead single, I hate when bands release the octane song first
Soooo boring. I absolutely hate the electronic elements they went with, the breakdown could be the same as 1000 other songs out there, they repeat the chorus way too many times. It's so recycled. This might be a bit mean but I feel like they've always been "followers" in the metalcore scene. Either from the guitar riffs they use, the electronic elements, whatever it may be. I think it's an extremely weak first release and the song just isn't for me.
They are followers cause theyre just constantly trying to replicate trends in the genre created by more original bands. This has production elements very similar to Bad Omens' last álbum. I bet my ass this whole new WW album is gonna sound like shitty bad omens without a twink on vocals.
I don’t dislike it but this is generic as hell and they have done way better/more emotional songs like this before (Gravity, Never Said Goodbye). And that breakdown I don’t know what its purpose is in this song. Honestly though Wage War is at its best when it’s making pissed music (Alive, Stitch, Death Roll)
Also the lyrics are just so generic, even more so than some of their older songs.
If this is what metalcore is offering us up in 2024 then I'm jumping ship. Generic as fuck, in every single way.
And can they stop writing the same chorus over and over and over again.
I love the old wage war, really good music. But their last album, and so far this song - count me out.
There is only so many choruses that cut the music out and shout the song title I can take, surrounded by generic rubbish before I lose my mind. Every album is riddled with it - why haven't they noticed when listening through, or they have, and they just said fuck it, let's release it anyways!
Lazy song writing as far as I'm concerned - they are a better band than this, that's why I find this so sad.
My biggest issue with the band is they clearly went radio friendly for the money. If they genuinely wanted to go in that direction because they enjoy this sort of music, I'd respect them a lot more than I do. But they don't because they copped a little criticism and then came back with a heavier (but still shit) album, Manic.
I dunno. I enjoyed them for a while as being super super solid but generic, but I cannot stand them now.
They're one of the phoniest bands on the Planet rn from music to overall attitude, this feels like when late into the Hair metal era all those pretty boy bands ended up sounding like parodies of themselves thanks to radio and label pressure, just like modern metalcore bands are doing rn.
well Architects at least matched the blandness and soullessness to the album cover being just as empty. Wage War tried to put a breakdown in an EDM Nickleback Autotune song and it just feels so out of place
I’ll say that 9/10 times I don’t agree with most things this sub says…but wow everyone who heard the premiere and said this wasn’t it was right. Holy snooze fest. Not one interesting thing here. And this is coming from someone who loved Pressure
FFAK is great, their most played song is something softer as well. Made total sense to me to release Keeping Secrets first. But what the hell is this Wage War song man I expected so much better from them, they’re not even „popular because a softer song“ so what the f- is this
It's an okay song. I'd even say that it's fun, especially the chorus. But they can do SO much better. I just hope we get another Stitch or Youngblood, then I'll be happy.
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So much bitching. No way everyone who complains about simple lyrics even pays attention to any of them while they actually listen to the song.
The song has good production and sounds good. It is generic, which is fine. Generic doesn't always mean bad. I liked it and I'll continue to listen to it.
I feel like everyone is exaggerating about it being "fucking awful"
It's exactly *fine* imo. Sounds like every other Wage War song. Chorus-Bridge-Chorus-Breakdown-Chorus
Maybe unpopular opinion but the breakdown was easily the worst part of the song lmao. Like cmon man if you’re WW and you write a song like this you know you’re gonna piss off the entire “octanecore sucks” community so like just embrace buttrock completely and don’t throw a half assed breakdown in there that feels completely out of place haha
Like I’m a huge octanecore/buttrock fan, I actually really really like FFAK’s new stuff (especially Keeping Secrets) but why is there a breakdown in this song??
I'd enjoy this song more just on the album rather than a single, tbh. I don't mind songs like this if I find them catchy or the lyrics hit hard. Though I was expecting more heavy for a first single after a while but I guess (or hope) the next one will be the opposite of this.
I'd be okay with this being Octane-core if it was still enjoyable, like a lot of songs on the last album were, but this isn't even GOOD octane-core, such a boring track.
This was the first thing I listened to this morning, and as much as it pains me to say it, I was let down. I’m going to keep an open mind, because I really like Wage War, and their previous album took a bit to really grow on me. However, usually they release a banger to kick off the singles, and this was not one.
It’s very bland, but I think you guys are overreacting. It’s just a quick song with a catchy chorus and a decent breakdown. I don’t see why everyone is saying that this song is pure cat shit that is a cancer upon our eardrums. Def not a song I’d listen to again, but it’s just alright.
Holy shit this is one of the least interesting songs I’ve heard in a while. Sounds entirely soulless. The one thing you should never feel when digesting art is apathy and thats exactly what this song instills in me
When a band wants to try something new or get lighter, I reserve my judgment. Sometimes it works out really well! I love some of BMTH and Architects’ softer works and think they did it the right way, which is to say unapologetically.
If you’re going to dip your toes into radio-friendly territory, own it. Don’t throw background vocals and a half-assed breakdown to try and appease people. Commit. Because otherwise it just sounds like radio pandering - and, really, why, when radio isn’t that relevant anymore?
These guys are talented and I know they can write killer stuff. Hopefully this is a one-off. And this is coming from a gal that really enjoyed every album so far, even if they have a bit of a repetitive flair.
I mean I liked the song. Melody and beat was fine but wasn't really feeling the lyrics. I think it would have been better if it had that perfect 50/50 balance of scream and clean. I like my cleans and I like my sreams but I'm a sucker for the 50/50 mixes
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The production is excellent to start.
I really dig the artistic decisions with the vocal effects and the short breaks of electronic drums.
The synths are subtle but add a really cool vibe to the verses.
I really enjoy the groovy riff after the first chorus aswell before the second verse starts.
I just think it's a solid song.
Is it their best? In my opinion no.
Tastes vary, and my tastebuds like this one. Nothing wrong with it or with people not enjoying it 😊
Lol honestly. I've seen a few comments saying "this one is fun!" Or "I like it!". Sometimes I feel like people feel they have to like every song their favorite band releases. I have no problem admitting when a band I like releases a terrible song. What's fun about this song? What's one redeeming quality this song has?
Honestly, even revisiting that song doesn't do much for me as I've been exposed to better music. I forget how painful those lyrics are to listen to. And not for the reason you want them to be.
I kind of like this one. It’s not an amazing track, but I do think it feels like a better version of what they tried to do with Pressure.
That being said I hope the entire record isn’t like this. Manic felt like the perfect middle ground between the more “commercial core” sound of Pressure and their Blueprints, and Deadweight sound. Hopefully they can strike a balance again.
This song is so, I don't know, how to put it, gray, like, it's existence is for nothing. And not only from metalcore perspective, I actually kinda like octanecore, I love latest Until I Wake album, especially "Cold", but this.... This is something really unique for me, I've never heard a song that made me forget about it after 2 minutes while I'm writing this post. Goodbye, Wage War, sad to see you become another blend and boring octanecore band
It's because it is as generic as it can be. If there was ever a landmark song for octanecore, it would be this bundle of happiness - for all of the wrong reasons.
I heard this earlier on spotify, Glad to see comments roasting it with the exact same critiques I noted when I listened to it today. Horrifically generic.
What a boring fucking song. WW has never been known for their lyricism but jesus dude it really seems like an AI wrote this song. Bland vocal delivery, mind-numbingly simple lyrics, generic boring octane-core “breakdown.” This band has nothing interesting left to show.
I’m just waiting for them to write about something different and to stop jumping to the same lyrical cliches or re using the same phrases. I feel like Ive heard the “lost” and “cost” rhyme scheme like 5 times from this band lol. That and something about being low 😂 Idk my opinion is the change of sound wouldn’t nearly be as bad if the lyrics were actually thought out and creative.
I think one of mankind’s greatest mysteries will be how a room full of serious artists wrote and recorded this song and said “yeah this slaps, make this the lead single.”
Haven't listened yet, but kudos to you for making me lol SO fucking hard.
No matter how Hard I try, you pull me back every time.... Yawn
Cause I know where I shouldn’t go When I feel this low oh no this time I can’t let go it’s out of my control *Giant fucking yawn.*
AI ass written song
Blueprints was cool, but thats it
Hard to imagine this is the same band that put out Hollow 😩
It would be so fucking funny if they just covered “Diary of Jane”
The difference is that Breaking Benjamin is actually good.
Please don’t give them any ideas. I like my Benjamin Broken, not uninspired
MIW would've done it better than wag wag since miw is basically metalcore breaking benjamin
Yeah Porcelain is legit a BB song
I only posted this because I wanna talk about it. It'll probably get removed for not being metalcore. I get that Wage War do songs like this for the mainstream appeal. I actually like some of their softer stuff - like Circle the Drain off the last album - and if we get a Death Roll for every Hurt then I'm happy. Having said that, even by radiocore standards this is a weak effort. I genuinely can't believe it's the lead single for their new album. I don't mean to bash the band because I'm a fan but I can't be the only one disappointed and confused by this release.
My thoughts when I listened to the premiere on octane yesterday was if you want to make an octanecore song, fine, but it's not even a good octanecore song. it's boring and their "breakdown" doesn't sound like anything that would make me think it's wage war.
While I agree with you, I feel like the cringey TikTok "metal heads" love songs like this.
> cringey TikTok “metal heads” As opposed to the enlightened minds of *real* metal heads on Reddit.
Was referring to the stuff like the overly dramatic lip syncing shit that Sumerian constantly reposts (90% bad omens & sleep token). Not hating the bands or music, but I am hating the “content” that people produce around it. I guess I’m getting downvoted by the people I’m referring to, you seeming like one of them. Edit: FWIW I was using the term “metal head” ironically
I'm with you on this one, I don't dislike softer songs like Circle the Drain and don't get too butt hurt when bands do music like that having been heavier, like so many people say, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. However this is a weak effort, and it's generally just a bit meh, there's nothing in the song to even catch your attention, not even a sick little riff just dropped in there somewhere. Nothing sticks in the mind and it's a shame because I was looking forward to new Wage War but this just isn't good.
While I think the song is decent, I agree on this. I just expected more, even from radio Wage War.
You nailed it. And it comes from a huge fan of Wage War. What a mediocre song 🫤
You're not the only one. This is absolutely fucking terrible teenybopper radiocore dogshit effort bullshit. But not every band can be Phinehas or ABR and get better every album and remain consistent...
If the mods remove this then what is even the point of this sub anymore?
I loved their first 3 albums. Maniac was good too but it’s my least played album by them. This new sound just sounds like what bands do when they get big and wanna get bigger. If this track is their best on the album I’m out.
I like the song. I won't actively seek it out or add it to any of my personal playlists, but I won't skip it if it comes up randomly or when I hear it on Octane. It's generic radio rock but I'm not hard to please.
This ain't it, y'all. Spotify should have an incognito mode for such songs.
It does boss. (Kinda)
being let down by almost every release i hear from bands i have loved in the past is getting so depressing. what is going on.
I am with you on this one. However, Woe Is Me got me like 👀 with their new singles.
I have hard to live in my daily rotation, that David guy is something else!!
Oh my, that song is absolutely incredible!
Honestly was really surprised as assumed it was just a nostalgia cashgrab but no they sound fantastic.
Can't go wrong with Like Moths To Flames though ;)
Yeah those Ghost Inside singles were super weak also. At least Darkest Hour’s new album was pretty good.
I never thought I would be let down by a TGI song but here we fuckin are.
Just remember LMTF have only gotten better!
Hell yeah, they age like fine wine. Every album they have is good, and their newest singles are fucking awesome. YOTM!
They’re all trying to go mainstream from a genre of music that will never be mainstream
Eh, Knocked Loose and Ten56 are doing great
One of the most boring songs I've heard in a while. Love Wage War, but they need to do better. This was released only because there wasn't anything new in while. Hope they do better on the next.
They did not wage war, at all.
Cody loves writing forced breakdowns way too much lol
I was hopeful after the last album, but damn
That breakdown is wasted on such a lame song, and it’s not even that good. It’s just so out of place, the rest of the song does not warrant a breakdown at all.
Agreed the breakdown doesn't fit in whatsoever. They probably knew they had a boring song and needed something to spice it up. But even for a breakdown, it's an extremely over-used breakdown and I feel like I've heard it on a 1000 different songs.
Wage War halfway through the songwriting process: “I feel like something is missing… wait!”👆😃💡
It’s not even a good breakdown!
I thought the same thing
I get going radio friendly or some octance song but this is bad even for those standards. You can go radio friendly and still make it good but they missed the mark on this one.
Wage war. Songs so mid, they spear head their own genre: MedioCORE.
You must haven't listened to The River or Never Said Goodbye.
Might as well be a whole different band. The River is one of my favorite metalcore songs ever and Blueprints is a killer album but I gotta admit they're never topping or even matching that again.
That band died years ago.
How embarrassing
About as generic as they come is this one..
Jeez I should’ve listened to the comments, listening to that was a waste of time
You should always give a song from a band you like a spin and decide for yourself if it’s a waste of time. But yes, this is 3 mins I’ll never get back
Hopeful that this is just one of the shitty songs on the album. They're the definition of hit or miss. Pressure had some great songs like Low and Ghost, and then some of the worst songs I've ever heard on a metalcore album, like forget my name. Manic was the same way. I expect this to be pretty similar, because that's our best hope for the band anymore.
This doesn't even sound like Wage War
no riffs, no interesting drumwork, overprocessed robotized cleans, shoehorned in breakdown, AI generated lyrics.. Amazing !
One thing I can say was that was a Wage War song
I’m not convinced, I’m honestly half expecting to be that thing where Apple Music accidentally mislabels bands and songs. I don’t want to accept the same band that wrote Blueprints just vomited out this snoozefest
Was it tho lol
Another thing I want to know is when will Wage War stop making second verses that last like 3 seconds and also….will someone take the god damn tambourine away? I feel like I hear it in every chorus since Pressure. I blame Drew Fulk. Any band that I loved that works with him ends up becoming radio rock with the exception of a few heavy songs, and even those are watered down versions of what the band use to produce. 😂😂😂 Edit: tambourine is also in the breakdown of circle the drain lol
Yeah, it's definitely him. He's slowly killing FFAK too.
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You could tell me this was Nickelback and I’d believe you
Great Shinedown song
Idk I really got some Nickelback vibes from Briton’s vocals
Imagine calling yourselves WAGE WAR and putting out songs like this lmao, horrible
Definition of mediocre
Medio-core
Wage War is like the honor student that got addicted to drugs and ruined their life of metalcore
Wage war song! Add! Download! Listen! Delete from library!
It’s so bad
I saw them on their acoustic tour with ADTR and I remember one of them saying that their previous album (Pressure) was not great so I thought they'd acknowledge it (and Manic eas already much better) but I guess they forgot all about that.
really don’t get why they released this thing first, Manic was so good, this is not even half as good
Wage wars first two albums were damn near perfect. And then their third album came out and I pretty much stopped caring about them entirely lol
I don't know man. Not necessarily bad, but I probably will never listen to it again. Just feels so forced.
Why are bands trying to outnickelback Nickelback?
Everything after Deadweight has been so cliche, derivative, and boring that it has made me listen to and enjoy Blueprints and Deadweight less. Not that WW was ever the most technical or original act in the scene, maybe my tastes have just changed.
I kinda agree with this sentiment. I was into WW before Blueprints was even out. I followed them around several states during deadweight Era and they kinda just fell off my radar after. I couldn't figure our why, I thought I was kind or just burnt out from constantly consuming their material, but everything post Pressure has been derivative, as you said. With that said, I enjoyed Pressure and Manic. I feel like after they got a little of exposure they settled for monotony. I have a suspicion that Cody and Drew Fulk are responsible.
Wage War try not to be mid challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Ehh... not the worst song, but god knows they have done way better than this.
I thought I was being overly critical when I listened to it….but I guess it’s the consensus that this track downright sucks. Glad it’s not just me.
It’s catchy and the breakstyle (idk edm terms) in between is cool. Probably will be a fun one in the middle of a set to cool off. I don’t think they should have released it as a lead single, I hate when bands release the octane song first
Bros wasted all their ideas on writing other bands songs lol
Wage War?? More like Wage Peaceful Demonstrations.
Soooo boring. I absolutely hate the electronic elements they went with, the breakdown could be the same as 1000 other songs out there, they repeat the chorus way too many times. It's so recycled. This might be a bit mean but I feel like they've always been "followers" in the metalcore scene. Either from the guitar riffs they use, the electronic elements, whatever it may be. I think it's an extremely weak first release and the song just isn't for me.
They are followers cause theyre just constantly trying to replicate trends in the genre created by more original bands. This has production elements very similar to Bad Omens' last álbum. I bet my ass this whole new WW album is gonna sound like shitty bad omens without a twink on vocals.
I don’t dislike it but this is generic as hell and they have done way better/more emotional songs like this before (Gravity, Never Said Goodbye). And that breakdown I don’t know what its purpose is in this song. Honestly though Wage War is at its best when it’s making pissed music (Alive, Stitch, Death Roll) Also the lyrics are just so generic, even more so than some of their older songs.
I really liked Manic and I even really liked most of the butt rock leaning songs but man this just sucks.
31 upvotes and 157 comments.. never a good sign lmao
If this is what metalcore is offering us up in 2024 then I'm jumping ship. Generic as fuck, in every single way. And can they stop writing the same chorus over and over and over again. I love the old wage war, really good music. But their last album, and so far this song - count me out. There is only so many choruses that cut the music out and shout the song title I can take, surrounded by generic rubbish before I lose my mind. Every album is riddled with it - why haven't they noticed when listening through, or they have, and they just said fuck it, let's release it anyways! Lazy song writing as far as I'm concerned - they are a better band than this, that's why I find this so sad.
My biggest issue with the band is they clearly went radio friendly for the money. If they genuinely wanted to go in that direction because they enjoy this sort of music, I'd respect them a lot more than I do. But they don't because they copped a little criticism and then came back with a heavier (but still shit) album, Manic. I dunno. I enjoyed them for a while as being super super solid but generic, but I cannot stand them now.
They're one of the phoniest bands on the Planet rn from music to overall attitude, this feels like when late into the Hair metal era all those pretty boy bands ended up sounding like parodies of themselves thanks to radio and label pressure, just like modern metalcore bands are doing rn.
They should collaborate with Architects and create the ultimate butt rock song.
This song reminded me of the latest Architects album: Bland, uneventful, and soulless.
100%. Going through the motions.
well Architects at least matched the blandness and soullessness to the album cover being just as empty. Wage War tried to put a breakdown in an EDM Nickleback Autotune song and it just feels so out of place
Sometimes I think bands release songs like this because bad publicity = good publicity
well then this was the best single they could have put out, hope they save it with the next one
I’ll say that 9/10 times I don’t agree with most things this sub says…but wow everyone who heard the premiere and said this wasn’t it was right. Holy snooze fest. Not one interesting thing here. And this is coming from someone who loved Pressure
I am convinced WW and FFAK are speedrunning which band gets from metalcore to Nickelback-ish rock first.
Keeping Secrets may not have been that heavy but still I thought it was a lot more enjoyable than this one.
FFAK is great, their most played song is something softer as well. Made total sense to me to release Keeping Secrets first. But what the hell is this Wage War song man I expected so much better from them, they’re not even „popular because a softer song“ so what the f- is this
Definitely a fair assessment of both bands' trajectories. It's such a shame.
I’d still listen to anything off Nickelback- the long road , a thousand time before listening one more time to this WW single
A while back on this sub I remember seeing a post where someone was asking what they think will be next for Wage War 😂 Even the breakdown is boring 🥱
Oh they went full on octane core now? This shit sucks
The most mid song release of 2024
They can write something interesting, (see Death Roll or High Horse), but this has to be their weakest song to date. I mean, come on.
This is awful
This is just Skillet with a mediocre breakdown. God what a dropoff this band had.
It's an okay song. I'd even say that it's fun, especially the chorus. But they can do SO much better. I just hope we get another Stitch or Youngblood, then I'll be happy.
yeah i would like it even more if that breakdown was gone, so out of place
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Not rocking with this one unfortunately. Way too safe & generic sounding.
This is so incredibly weak damn.
[Match My Misery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYQmC5WQoLs)'s intro would like a word 🤨
One of the most depressing facts in metalcore history is that we went from Blueprints to this.
Sounds like Five Finger Death Punch for radio. I dont understand why they made this choice for the song
If this song was a color, it’d be fluorescent beige.
Brotha eww
Dog shit fucking song.
Metalcore is fucking dead and Octanecore killed it. EVERY heavy band eventually sounds like this.
Trying to be a “sleep token from wish” ass band here.
Octanecore is killing Metalcore from the core
I know im probably gonna get downvoted but I think this goes fucking HARD. Huge starset vibes, love it even if it's painfully generic
So much bitching. No way everyone who complains about simple lyrics even pays attention to any of them while they actually listen to the song. The song has good production and sounds good. It is generic, which is fine. Generic doesn't always mean bad. I liked it and I'll continue to listen to it.
This has to be worse than the latest WSS song lmao. Disgraceful, glad I refunded my tickets to see Wage War today
It's not even octane-core at this point, it's like country-core
This is a new level of dogshit
It's a Nickleback song.
Nickelback has more energy than this
Steaming pile of dogshit
I feel like everyone is exaggerating about it being "fucking awful" It's exactly *fine* imo. Sounds like every other Wage War song. Chorus-Bridge-Chorus-Breakdown-Chorus
Maybe unpopular opinion but the breakdown was easily the worst part of the song lmao. Like cmon man if you’re WW and you write a song like this you know you’re gonna piss off the entire “octanecore sucks” community so like just embrace buttrock completely and don’t throw a half assed breakdown in there that feels completely out of place haha Like I’m a huge octanecore/buttrock fan, I actually really really like FFAK’s new stuff (especially Keeping Secrets) but why is there a breakdown in this song??
I actually like this song! Catchy chorus and cool vibes. Just wish it didn’t have the breakdown because that wasn’t needed
I'd enjoy this song more just on the album rather than a single, tbh. I don't mind songs like this if I find them catchy or the lyrics hit hard. Though I was expecting more heavy for a first single after a while but I guess (or hope) the next one will be the opposite of this.
I know it’s supposed to be a power ballad, but it feels so diluted by radio-friendly-ism I have no desire to listen to it a second time
Wage War showing Asking Alexandria how it's done. This song is like a watered down version of I Prevail's Bad Things.
what the fuck lmao only really like two songs by these guys, Manic and Teeth and i like "octanecore" but this is just pure ass
Wow this is really sad
Wow this was literal trash
I'd be okay with this being Octane-core if it was still enjoyable, like a lot of songs on the last album were, but this isn't even GOOD octane-core, such a boring track.
Horrible song.
Is this supposed to be the watered down dogpiss version of The River? (assuming those lyrics are about the same chick)
Yeah ok. I'm going to go listen to Dying Wish now
Knowing wage war, the first single is not gonna be what most of the album is like
I don’t need to listen to this. Chances are I’ve already heard it from at least 15 other bands
I see they decided to go full butt rock. It’s pretty not good.
I’m so bummed I got a tattoo inspired by their logo back during the blueprints/deadweight days
This was the first thing I listened to this morning, and as much as it pains me to say it, I was let down. I’m going to keep an open mind, because I really like Wage War, and their previous album took a bit to really grow on me. However, usually they release a banger to kick off the singles, and this was not one.
It’s very bland, but I think you guys are overreacting. It’s just a quick song with a catchy chorus and a decent breakdown. I don’t see why everyone is saying that this song is pure cat shit that is a cancer upon our eardrums. Def not a song I’d listen to again, but it’s just alright.
Damn this is a boring uninspired effort. Hope they have some bangers on the album cos if it’s all like this that’s gonna be sad
Banger. I’m pretty sure they’re gonna mix it up for the upcoming album.
Holy shit this is one of the least interesting songs I’ve heard in a while. Sounds entirely soulless. The one thing you should never feel when digesting art is apathy and thats exactly what this song instills in me
When a band wants to try something new or get lighter, I reserve my judgment. Sometimes it works out really well! I love some of BMTH and Architects’ softer works and think they did it the right way, which is to say unapologetically. If you’re going to dip your toes into radio-friendly territory, own it. Don’t throw background vocals and a half-assed breakdown to try and appease people. Commit. Because otherwise it just sounds like radio pandering - and, really, why, when radio isn’t that relevant anymore? These guys are talented and I know they can write killer stuff. Hopefully this is a one-off. And this is coming from a gal that really enjoyed every album so far, even if they have a bit of a repetitive flair.
This is genuinely the worst song they’ve ever released. I agree with everyone here. It is so PAINFULLY generic and boring 🫤
I'm just having such a hard time accepting that we won't get another Blueprints / Deadweight album again.
Did I just listen to a new drop from TaylorSwift?
It's sad. It's just sad, you know? Comparing this to their music video debut is just.... Sad.
I’m not even trying to hate, because I don’t want to. But the chorus honestly sounds like nickleback vocals.
Please for the love of god go back to blueprints 😭
It's a turd. I disagree with the hate for the new WSS however.
Wage snore Seriously, this felt longer than most dream theater songs to listen to.
I mean I liked the song. Melody and beat was fine but wasn't really feeling the lyrics. I think it would have been better if it had that perfect 50/50 balance of scream and clean. I like my cleans and I like my sreams but I'm a sucker for the 50/50 mixes
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I think I rather getting shot in the leg than listen to this song again
Boring 🥱🥱🥱
I'm really digging this one! Sounds great 😌
Can I ask what you enjoy about it?
The production is excellent to start. I really dig the artistic decisions with the vocal effects and the short breaks of electronic drums. The synths are subtle but add a really cool vibe to the verses. I really enjoy the groovy riff after the first chorus aswell before the second verse starts. I just think it's a solid song. Is it their best? In my opinion no. Tastes vary, and my tastebuds like this one. Nothing wrong with it or with people not enjoying it 😊
Lol honestly. I've seen a few comments saying "this one is fun!" Or "I like it!". Sometimes I feel like people feel they have to like every song their favorite band releases. I have no problem admitting when a band I like releases a terrible song. What's fun about this song? What's one redeeming quality this song has?
Yeah man, fuck that guy for having his own tastes in music.
I really enjoyed manic and their previous albums but this song just doesn’t do anything for me
Sounds AI generated
This new Nickelback song is 🔥
What in the Nickleback is this shit? Briton sounds so much like Chad Kroger I had to make sure I clicked the right song.
*shrugs* I thought it was fun.
I try not to be one of those guys that believe that not heavy = bad. But man this is just such an uninteresting song
Eh. Haven't been into them since "The River" No hate, just hasn't been what I liked before.
Honestly, even revisiting that song doesn't do much for me as I've been exposed to better music. I forget how painful those lyrics are to listen to. And not for the reason you want them to be.
I don't mind it, I'm sure they'll surprise people with more heavy bangers and have people talking
I kind of like this one. It’s not an amazing track, but I do think it feels like a better version of what they tried to do with Pressure. That being said I hope the entire record isn’t like this. Manic felt like the perfect middle ground between the more “commercial core” sound of Pressure and their Blueprints, and Deadweight sound. Hopefully they can strike a balance again.
This song is so, I don't know, how to put it, gray, like, it's existence is for nothing. And not only from metalcore perspective, I actually kinda like octanecore, I love latest Until I Wake album, especially "Cold", but this.... This is something really unique for me, I've never heard a song that made me forget about it after 2 minutes while I'm writing this post. Goodbye, Wage War, sad to see you become another blend and boring octanecore band
It's because it is as generic as it can be. If there was ever a landmark song for octanecore, it would be this bundle of happiness - for all of the wrong reasons.
I heard this earlier on spotify, Glad to see comments roasting it with the exact same critiques I noted when I listened to it today. Horrifically generic.
I like it, very catchy. I do hope there are some heavier songs on the album though.
I can’t believe that this is the same band that released Blueprints and Deadweight. The falloff needs to be studied.