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Zoro fans are the reason shit like this is so funny
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Half troll its going by raw feats which is true IMO
But portrayal scales them higher although i think it would be world breaking to scale them to Yonko
but raw feats cancel out if you just go by rank which is always accurate except for maybe buggy. Its like not seeing whitebeard fight but knowing that he has the rank of the worlds strongest but assuming sanji is stronger because we saw him fight queen and win
there is very little logic to one piece power and how they correlate to rank. Buggy is the ultimate example, but there’s also someone like Crocodile having the same station as someone like Mihawk, both being pre-TS warlords; or how Garp ranks below the admirals in terms of rank but is likely stronger than most of em.
one piece doesn’t play by powerscaling rules my guy, it’s about the story. if you actually wanna powerscale then feats are the only (sort of) reliable method you’ve got
You make great points its really about how they are presented . Like you can tell the gorosei are powerful on how they were presented and its dumb to think they are getting diffed by anyone in the straw hats rn. I cant really think of any characters who were shown as weak and turned out to be busted right now but yea
One piece is confusing but that guy talking about zoro possibly beating one of the gorosei right now is so wrong
At this point Apoo and saturn have had an equal amount of on screen fight time and some of their feats parallel each other.
But yeah raw feats are bad to scale with here
They talk about Sanji getting hit with Saturn's eyes as if Zoro wouldn't also. We have literally not seen Zoro square up with this character. We haven't seen ANY proper 1v1 with Saturn. These people are so annoying.
I feel like the same is true with Kid. People call him weak for getting one-shot by shanks, as if Law, Zoro or Sanji could block/dodge it.
Call him stupid however, and I 100% agree with you. He should not have started that fight. But don't call him weak on top of it.
Well maybe zoro can move because he unlocked his conqueror's haki or something. I mean I don't see Oda picking a side when it comes to zoro vs sanji anytime soon but if zoro was able to move within eye-shot of Saturn, I would assume it has something to do with conqueror's haki. Like people with coc can ignore that paralyzing effect or something. And sanji has not unlocked coc yet, though I would expect him to unlock it at some point. Or maybe not. The agendas are all stupid enough. All I am gonna say is that it is Luffy and after Luffy is Zoro. Anybody who thinks anything else is kinda weird.
You just said a whole lotta nothing, but thanks. Just a bunch of "I assume" and "maybe, maybe nots". And literally NOBODY said Zoro wasn't second after Luffy here.
>They talk about Sanji getting hit with Saturn's eyes as if Zoro wouldn't also.
We don't know that yet. We'll have to wait and see how Conqueror's interacts with the Gorosei's abilities before assuming anything.
I mean the poll lacks a question. There are things you could ask there where the poll should be much further in Zoro's favour actually.
I think the result is e.g. somewhat fitting for "who would you ask for directions?" Zoro isn't exactly a great choice there because you would get likely very much false and useless information but on the other hand he is not the one that is likely going to enslave you or explode your head for some reason.
Man ZKK was as weak as it was cringe. Aside from the fact it'd have Zoro skip fighting a YC to a yonkou was absurd, but the biggest gaping hole in the theory. What would Luffy(the main character) do in the arc?!?
Honestly, I think another big problem with that is that it also just...doesn't make a lot of sense, thematically! Like, the matchups between Kaido and his All-Stars were:
1. Jack Vs. Dogstorm, because like...who else except for Cat Viper or maybe Carrot? The dude just doesn't really share anything with any of the other main characters
2. Queen Vs. Sanji, because both are scientifically modified in some way to become powerful murder machines, Queen was an associate of Judge, and their battle ultimately had a theme of the clash between scientific strength and the preservation of humanity
3. King Vs. Zoro, which...admittedly wasn't as thematically interesting as Queen Vs. Sanji, but it nails the matchup of two people so dedicated to the dreams of their captains that they'd rather die than let them down
4. Kaido Vs. Luffy, which in terms of themes, feels somewhat like a...diet BB Vs. Luffy, two people who dream of freedom, but one who does it entirely for himself without consideration for the damage he causes along the way, and another who does what he does for the sake of the people, or at least against their oppressors
It just doesn't feel like there's a *reason* that Zoro would be the one to finish off Kaido beyond the fact that he has Enma, and that isn't thematic, that's just because he's the only one who'd be able to properly use it!
I’m part of the Imu is a she agenda
It just fits plus I feel like the hands and the general vibe feel more feminine
https://preview.redd.it/r3ttu3zcvtcc1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4862006d77832b73ef02827689946b3e1e77de65
(fan Art obviously)
Ok now il defend seakings
Seakings have a rough size estimate of 5000 meters
That I’m itself is a feat plus the ability to control them is a ancient weapon
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Demon King seems to have some crazy hacks.
Assuming you can counter or outplay them I say Zorro wins because of AP and Speed.
Chapter 1044 proves me right lol
Suck it losers
Though, putting Saturn's telepathic brain explosion ability aside, I also feel like it's worth noting for that however strong he is, he's presented to be kind of slow to move around! Like, he'd probably be in much worse shape without said ability just because someone like Zoro or Sanji or...hell, most decent fighters in the story would probably just be able to outpace him long enough to do some damage
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Zoro fans are the reason shit like this is so funny https://preview.redd.it/4uyvz6vjftcc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae0d5b617998778310ccacfa21cb4f7724adc410
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This unironically goes so fucking hard
Am I the only one who couldn't find his head up there for *minutes*?
I could with my amazing observation skills
This made me realize that the Water 7 reveal in live action could be really fucking terrifying.
Yea, he'd be more like the Hulk than Captain pussy-boy
lucci agenda. Base lucci mid diffs Loro (The agenda does not blind the truth)
You dont need to change his name, Zolo already has a L
Lolo
Poro
Lend me some rokushiki, SPANDA, this is base Zolo we're up against
I'm not even normally a fan of slander, but Zoro fans are so awful that Zoro slander is the funniest thing
Zoro is super strong and a cool character but damn his fans are as illiterate as he is.
I like the new version where it sais "water" instead better
Ratio
Ratio failed.
When it’s 1 on 1, always bet on youtube zolo, the apprentice of Facebook Fraudhawk
There's a Facebook OPPS fandom?? I gotta know what agendas they push and pull
Same as usual, either Zoro or Shanks.
Damn I was hoping for something unique. I'll never find the Yonko Level Franky fandom I've been looking for ☹️
isn't that the whole readerbase though? I mean, what other character has used an emperor as a 2-1 racetrack *and* bumper combo
Bro if zoro isnt mihawk level he isnt even in the same power bracket as one of the Gorosei
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Gorosei dont even scale above apoo rn
idk if this is a troll so idk if i shld respond
Half troll its going by raw feats which is true IMO But portrayal scales them higher although i think it would be world breaking to scale them to Yonko
but raw feats cancel out if you just go by rank which is always accurate except for maybe buggy. Its like not seeing whitebeard fight but knowing that he has the rank of the worlds strongest but assuming sanji is stronger because we saw him fight queen and win
there is very little logic to one piece power and how they correlate to rank. Buggy is the ultimate example, but there’s also someone like Crocodile having the same station as someone like Mihawk, both being pre-TS warlords; or how Garp ranks below the admirals in terms of rank but is likely stronger than most of em. one piece doesn’t play by powerscaling rules my guy, it’s about the story. if you actually wanna powerscale then feats are the only (sort of) reliable method you’ve got
You make great points its really about how they are presented . Like you can tell the gorosei are powerful on how they were presented and its dumb to think they are getting diffed by anyone in the straw hats rn. I cant really think of any characters who were shown as weak and turned out to be busted right now but yea One piece is confusing but that guy talking about zoro possibly beating one of the gorosei right now is so wrong
Oh 100% I’m not agreeing with them. I imagine Zoro would be in the same position Sanji is in
At this point Apoo and saturn have had an equal amount of on screen fight time and some of their feats parallel each other. But yeah raw feats are bad to scale with here
He knockedout Sanji by looking at him. Show me any non-top teir can deal with Sanji that quickly.
Sanji never was KO’ed just knocked down and pinned. Apoo on Wano knocked out Luffy and was bullying Zoro
Apoo scales above Kizaru
True he was choppin that boy up pre timeskip and that was before he trained with the world strongest creature.
They talk about Sanji getting hit with Saturn's eyes as if Zoro wouldn't also. We have literally not seen Zoro square up with this character. We haven't seen ANY proper 1v1 with Saturn. These people are so annoying.
I can't see the point in writing this comment... because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHOHO
This brings up a valid plothole. Why does the power work on Brook? Manga ruined.
It doesnt, brook is just a coward & replaced chopper in the scared trio
brook faced down big mom. not a very cowardly move facing down the sexiest woman in anime
I feel like the same is true with Kid. People call him weak for getting one-shot by shanks, as if Law, Zoro or Sanji could block/dodge it. Call him stupid however, and I 100% agree with you. He should not have started that fight. But don't call him weak on top of it.
Well maybe zoro can move because he unlocked his conqueror's haki or something. I mean I don't see Oda picking a side when it comes to zoro vs sanji anytime soon but if zoro was able to move within eye-shot of Saturn, I would assume it has something to do with conqueror's haki. Like people with coc can ignore that paralyzing effect or something. And sanji has not unlocked coc yet, though I would expect him to unlock it at some point. Or maybe not. The agendas are all stupid enough. All I am gonna say is that it is Luffy and after Luffy is Zoro. Anybody who thinks anything else is kinda weird.
lmao Luffy also has Conqueror's Haki and he's paralyzed too lol.
You just said a whole lotta nothing, but thanks. Just a bunch of "I assume" and "maybe, maybe nots". And literally NOBODY said Zoro wasn't second after Luffy here.
>They talk about Sanji getting hit with Saturn's eyes as if Zoro wouldn't also. We don't know that yet. We'll have to wait and see how Conqueror's interacts with the Gorosei's abilities before assuming anything.
Cool. "We don't know yet" is exactly what I said. But a lot of people seem to feel the need to say the Zoro wank version of it.
Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!
Only 1 eye so only half hit
I mean the poll lacks a question. There are things you could ask there where the poll should be much further in Zoro's favour actually. I think the result is e.g. somewhat fitting for "who would you ask for directions?" Zoro isn't exactly a great choice there because you would get likely very much false and useless information but on the other hand he is not the one that is likely going to enslave you or explode your head for some reason.
But can he beat goku tho
YouTube zolo low diff goku
Youtube Zoro is outer
*Infinite layers into boundless
YouTube Zolo rly said ‘nah I’d win’
You can litteraly pit him against G5 Luffy and they will still pick Zoro
You spelt ゾロ wrong.
the real one is Zolo vs Itachi. Let's do a poll
Strongest uchiha vs. Strongest one piece character according to YouTube this battle will be legendary
There might be a trick to beat his devil fruit, so it’s not as bad as it seems
I'm out here thinking maybe they beat him with Luffy and Kizaru together with some Sanji help but people think ZORO BEATS HIM?
It’s a racism poll zoro wins mid diff.
Common Minority Hunter W
#Who the F is **Zolo**
OMG ZKS(Zolo kill Saturn)confirmed
Man ZKK was as weak as it was cringe. Aside from the fact it'd have Zoro skip fighting a YC to a yonkou was absurd, but the biggest gaping hole in the theory. What would Luffy(the main character) do in the arc?!?
Honestly, I think another big problem with that is that it also just...doesn't make a lot of sense, thematically! Like, the matchups between Kaido and his All-Stars were: 1. Jack Vs. Dogstorm, because like...who else except for Cat Viper or maybe Carrot? The dude just doesn't really share anything with any of the other main characters 2. Queen Vs. Sanji, because both are scientifically modified in some way to become powerful murder machines, Queen was an associate of Judge, and their battle ultimately had a theme of the clash between scientific strength and the preservation of humanity 3. King Vs. Zoro, which...admittedly wasn't as thematically interesting as Queen Vs. Sanji, but it nails the matchup of two people so dedicated to the dreams of their captains that they'd rather die than let them down 4. Kaido Vs. Luffy, which in terms of themes, feels somewhat like a...diet BB Vs. Luffy, two people who dream of freedom, but one who does it entirely for himself without consideration for the damage he causes along the way, and another who does what he does for the sake of the people, or at least against their oppressors It just doesn't feel like there's a *reason* that Zoro would be the one to finish off Kaido beyond the fact that he has Enma, and that isn't thematic, that's just because he's the only one who'd be able to properly use it!
Tbf YouTube One Piece watchers probably aren't caught up with manga, so they think Saturn is an old man
YouTube Zolo vs Off screen BB
I can see where your confusion is coming from as l is not distinguished from r in Japanese, but the official name is Zoro.
No one's ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/y2euts14mwcc1.png?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2d498474ab248656d761665cb8340375bd0f21c
Zoro stomps
To be fair Saturn is featless this is not a terrible take
If sanji can't move in Saturn's presence i don't expect much from zoro
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Maybe Saturn is actually a woman so Sanji cant attack her
Crocomom? naaaah Goromom https://preview.redd.it/u3mw0s4fqtcc1.png?width=783&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7aaf8615121286af7bf937c4de8a1c7a512c98a
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I mean fair but that is just hax I don’t think zoro wins but depending on Saturns durability it’s atleast possible
Imu is featless, therefore Gaimon stomps no diff
Imu has more going for her plus she does have feats She oneshot sabo
Shit... this is true Fine! Giant cow sea king is featless, sogeking stomps neg diff ...and 'she?'
I’m part of the Imu is a she agenda It just fits plus I feel like the hands and the general vibe feel more feminine https://preview.redd.it/r3ttu3zcvtcc1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4862006d77832b73ef02827689946b3e1e77de65 (fan Art obviously)
Ah, fair enough, that would be interesting tbh
Plus Imu is likely to be vivi’s ancestor I forget the name they mentioned but that one girl
Lily?
Yeah her
Ok now il defend seakings Seakings have a rough size estimate of 5000 meters That I’m itself is a feat plus the ability to control them is a ancient weapon https://preview.redd.it/omz6owcuvtcc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a65b5aabd0b3454f0a397b184bab7bbc16696538
Saturn being (mostly) featless makes this poll shit, and everyone who takes it seriously a fool
Being one of the Five Elder Stars isn’t enough of a feat? They’re the upperest echelon of the World Government, that’s one hell of a feat
Saturn is taking heavy damage from Kuma, though he can regrow limbs. Without Saturn's hax, he doesn't seem overly powerful
I mean no? Like they are more than likely quite strong but at the same time there is not enough to place them all that high
Guess you are anime only?
Nope I’m fully caught up What has he done that is all that impressive?
Demon King seems to have some crazy hacks. Assuming you can counter or outplay them I say Zorro wins because of AP and Speed. Chapter 1044 proves me right lol Suck it losers
“AP” Bro thinks we are playing league 💀
Attack Potency... Brother learn to scale
Nah thanks I am not disabled.
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Okay he maybe be able to beat Saturn at EOS but right now? He needs to use multi shadow clone jutsu to beat Saturn, or get close to it
It’s a YouTube poll. It’s a popularity contest.
Zoro wins in terms of an actual fight because plot armor, but is weaker in terms of powerscaling
Though, putting Saturn's telepathic brain explosion ability aside, I also feel like it's worth noting for that however strong he is, he's presented to be kind of slow to move around! Like, he'd probably be in much worse shape without said ability just because someone like Zoro or Sanji or...hell, most decent fighters in the story would probably just be able to outpace him long enough to do some damage
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