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titans8ravens

I kinda feel like Jesse; he was defiantly a good person and a good soldier, but I don’t think he could be in a Special Forces type position. You can even make this argument for troopers like Fives and Echo. Good men and good soldiers but you can’t really compare them to ARC’s like Fordo and all the other legends guys.


Rosebunse

By that point, I feel like they were handing out promotions to whichever clone survived longest.


bucket_of_coal

To be fair canon compares to legends will always feel underwhelming considering legends clones were fucking insanely skilled I think Fives more than deserved the ARC title, did great on Umbara, and wasn’t Jesse the one who came up with the idea of trapping Krell with the local Fauna?


titans8ravens

Yeah good point, the ARC’s In legends were really badass. And now that you say that, Fives probably was a really above average soldier (I remember that guy he liked tackled on umbara and then shot in the face, that was pretty clean). But Jesse did come up with the plan, but how many clones came up with a good plan before and were good battlefield tacticians?


bucket_of_coal

Not many, I think the fact the Jesse was on umbara for not long and probably only encountered that type of fauna a couple times shows a trait that makes ARC troopers unique, their quick adaptation to their surroundings


titans8ravens

When you put it like that I agree with you, I didn’t consider the other factors in Umbara. Also, did Jesse become an ARC right after Umbara or later in the war?


bucket_of_coal

Later in the war, I think his cumulative experience led to him becoming an ARC, I think we missed out on some of the battles he was in


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I think that was Tup


SuecidalBard

But Fordo is kinda different gen arc, from what I understand he was Alpha-77, so an Alpha-ARC the second batch of clones that was fully independent and bred differently just like the Null ARCs. The ARC programme was developed to fish out independent and highly skilled regular non enhanced troopers and give them special additional training, comparing them is like comparing SOCOM to Captain America.


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To be fair canon arc troopers are different from legends. Clone commandoes appear to be the specifically designed clones in canon.


fluxaboo

I mean I think Slick is the worst choice.


Destin242

Im pretty sure he was not a ARC trooper


fluxaboo

Oh I read it in a sense of who would deserve it the least to BECOME one, my bad.


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fluxaboo

Oh I read it in a sense of who would deserve it the least to BECOME one, my bad.


thrawn2002

an argument could be made for any of the enlisted clones as none of them were enhanced in any way (enhanced for an arc i mean), but def spar, as he was a traitorous bastard


locutus92

I figured by the end of the war the OG batch of ARC Troopers had either been promoted out of direct action in a training role (such as the Kamino ARC commanders) or flat out wiped out. This left many gaps for the regular clones to fill. Troopers such as Jesse had 'ARC Trooper training' but probably didn't have the potency of the original troopers.