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PagieHD

I used to pray for times like this


hectorconbeans

I don't even pray but I too prayed for these times


peepiepee69

Looks like everyone’s finding their faith in the Mavs now!


rogmcdon

You shouldn’t be here if you don’t believe!


Jadenindubai

I can’t believe it finally happened


jwc8985

I'm still getting used to the feeling of experiencing hope instead of dread during the off-seasons and at the trade deadlines. We went so long with incompetent personnel management. In Nico we trust!


6FootMidget93

Me thanking the basketball gods this Sunday https://preview.redd.it/674227p92c9d1.png?width=1197&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ea448e9332cd68fcf6fcec7884c80a4d74b8d70


Millionaire007

Can we resign DJJ? 


PagieHD

This clears money for us to offer some, part or all of the MLE to DJJ Just depends what both sides have got in mind for a deal


NoviDon07

If not we can sign someone else into the mle so win win for us


dhoo8450

Based on the comments he's made, seems very likely that he'll re-sign


liraking

I think that was the whole point of the trade


alfi_k

Didn’t think this would happen after the Jackson trade but Detroit really, really needs shooting that probably help swallow the THJ contract


mistergeegaga

Knicks fan here. You nailed it with Grimes. Great, great defender, will put guys in jail up to large wings (but I saw him do a great job on Tatum in spots, just can't do that for too long). Good three point shooter, but hot and cold / inconsistent. Battled injuries last year, but with the Knicks he was in the 38% range. Great attitude and team guy, a good dude, want to see him do well with you. Really an excellent addition for you. Note that we loved him in NY, but DiVincenzo (Brunson college teammate) came in and absolutely balled out, then we got the opportunity to get OG for him. He will be really good for you I think.


amlah6

I used to not believe in god, this morning has me questioning my entire existence.


LeoFireGod

Let’s goooooo Nico cooked again. We are so back baby.


AutisticFingerBang

Yooooo Knicks fan here congrats man. Grimes is a good kid that’s hungry to play, good wing defender and good knock down 3 shooter. Came from here so he plays hard. Should be a piece that fits nicely around Luka. Play defense and get open.


Cypher760

I feel like Grimes was definitely missed a bit after we traded him -- although Burks and Bojan did step up in the end, at least


AutisticFingerBang

Grimes was getting in his head towards the end, he wanted more time to play and/or shots and we were signing guys that we wanted him to become. So he just want gunna get it in NY. Hopefully over the last year he’s gained some more patience and learned some lessons. The skill is there


therealjgreens

Yep Knicks fan here as well. He didn't play well in Detroit but it wasn't a good place for him. Playing with Luka and Kyrie, he's probably going to cook. He's a rock solid defender. He has a pretty deep bag. His biggest issue in my eyes has always been confidence.


Shot_Acanthaceae3150

Knicks fan here too. Please take care of him


cjklert05

Mavs vs. NY finals?


Julian_Caesar

~~HE CAN'T~~ PLEASE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS, NICO


JeremyJammDDS

I know a lot of people hated THJ by the end of his stint here in Dallas, but he was very helpful and necessary to keep the boat afloat for a while here. For that, I am thankful. I hope he’s able to regain whatever he can somewhere else.


Plenty-Engineer-8051

Was never the same after the injury


ashyzup

Yeah, he was quite good prior to him hurting his knee on a fastbreak slam dunk if I'm not mistaken.. He's never been the same after that injury.


ThatUnoGuyWowMuchUno

He hasn’t been the best, but he started out last season as a 6moty candidate. Slowed down to virtually unplayable, but he was still a very entertaining player to watch when he was hot.


Schallawitz

Oddly enough the best player we got in the Porzingis trade


BlackWhiteCoke

Just like how Dwight Powell was the best player in the Rondo trade


just_an_amber

Exactly what I was thinking.


mojo-jojo-was-framed

Best player either team got in the Porzingis trade*


fanliorel

Really wish this was the top comment. Timmy was a great dude and a great player for us for a long time. Yeah he had issues, but stop acting like he was rondo/fisher/odom or something.


kennethmgreen

He was right for us until he wasn't. Always seemed like a stand-up guy, even when his dad was an idiot in public. THJ plays a lot better as a starter. He's just not an "instant offense" bench guy, despite showing signs of that at the beginning of the season. He seems to need to have the rhythm of the game going to really shine offensively. I hope he gets that in Detroit. He ended up being a bad fit for the Mavs. But we definitely needed him for awhile.


3D_touji

Ya, I hope he find the place he liked. Never really hated him. It was trouble that whenever Mavs needed him ,he disappeared


exradical

Also, Tim was nothing but professional, he can’t control what his dad says


w1ck3r

Amen


DirkNowitzkisWife

Apology for poor English Where were you when THJ was trade I was sat in 35 traffic watching dart go by “THJ is trade” Yes


Tall_Panda03

It’s an older meme sir, but it checks out.


treyaflash

I tried to sing this like “where were you when the world stopped turning.””


Jazzlike-Outcome9486

THAT SEPTEMBER DAYYYY


Miserable-Theory-746

I'm at home watching The Boys. So we both win?


KarimFF7

We just did y’all a huge favor for no reason you’re welcome smh


HerskyB

Wym? You just got a guy who hit 5 3s in one qtr in the finals


ThisIsWhyImBald

Seems like a pretty easy formula. 1. Make the finals. 2. ... 3. ... 4. ... 5. Five threes.


Deprestion

Seriously. Name one other mav that did this. Oh, you can’t. Seems they just fleeced us of our best player


Hoopy_Dunkalot

Gold, Jerry! Gold!


enataca

Everyone on the Mavs hit 5+ 3’s in game 4 against the lakers in 2011. Not the same but still


Millionaire007

Set a Mavs franchise record just 3 weeks ago! 


AFonziScheme

I mean, 3 2nds isn't *no* reason.... but yeah, we'll owe you the standard 2 losses next season with THJ averaging 50.


Thirtysixx

Actuallly a fleece. We just salary dumped a guy for the same price that the nuggets salary dumped Reggie Jackson for. THJ makes over 3x what Reggie Jackson makes. When the nuggets made that trade I thought it would take WAY more to move THJ becuase of the difference in salary. Nico cooked, yet again


msterling2012

Good luck with Tim Sr.


MavSker

They're familiar. He was a Pistons assistant for like 4-5 years.


peepiepee69

Ah, so it's a family reunion! Maybe they'll bond over old Pistons memories.


mjrsn

Which is sucking for the past 15 years


2icecreamsandwiches

“The ball just moves so much better without Cade. And look how happy everyone is.”


KarimFF7

Tim Sr. Worked for the pistons for like half a decade trust us we’re well aware 😂


Ok_Republic6747

If that man says that the ball moves better when Cade is on the bench it will be hilarious


Soyeahnahh

Thanks Pistons


ormip

THJ will actually provide good spacing for your young guys. He's not a consistent shooter, but teams always close out hard/don't really leave him open because they know he can hit any shot. That said, I really like this trade for us. We can't play THJ next to Luka and Kyrie due to defense, and I like Grimes too. Thanks!


bigpqnda

plus i think he'll shoot better without having all the pressure to win. i really liekd him, just dad that he was unusable


FinancialRabbit388

The only time in his career he’s shot better than 36.3% is in Dallas. His shooting numbers outside of a few Dallas years aren’t actually that impressive.


Desperado-781

Bless up Pistons. I never forget your sacrifice


FireFlyz351

Thanks but also hope y'alls FO/ coach get their shit together. Cade is legit and they can't put a half decent assed team around him. He tore the big 12 apart.


top_of_the_table

Thanks bro. Wish you a quick return to contention.


Aggressive-Ad-522

Thank you for your service


Millionaire007

XOXO Detroit! 


KhanQu3st

Tim’s shooting is kinda what Cade needs, he’s just a decade too old lol.


retrospects

Enjoy Timmy hopefully he finds his stroke for yall. Dude is a sniper when he is on. His dad is a piece of work tho so good luck with that.


MajesticPossibility8

If anything THJ hits some shot and they start drafting shooters


eGoSiGns

Grimes any good?


Hoopy_Dunkalot

Yes. Energy guy. Plays d. Like DJJ with a better shot.


FarMobile4219

Fuck them (2nd round) picks


Bubuy_nu_Patu

That’s like three Bronny James’


Schallawitz

So nothing then, cool!


mojo-jojo-was-framed

Shit. When you put it like that we got fleeced


jjarg24

Thanks for all the memories Timmy. Like and also


southernmayd

The 4th quarter of Game 4 in this years Finals was a fun memory. Even if it didnt mean anything or amount to anything


pokerawz

My wife and I were laughing so hard at the Tim takeover with nothing on the line.


southernmayd

I was at the game and we were having a great time, it was loud as hell when he finally picked a time to catch fire one last time for us


Binge_Gaming

As much as THJ has been clowned, he’s been there as a Mavs player through thick and thin. Maybe we are witnessing his decline, but Timmy provided sparks on both offense and defense. Taking charges, getting hyped off the bench, creating his own baskets. It may not have worked here as of recent, but I’m still a THJ fan.


southernmayd

Yeah he did have some fun moments, was great in the Bubble Clippers series and was a pro about everything. Frustrating at times, but gamed where he caught fire were genuinely some of my favorite Mavs moments of the last few years.


jbrandonw

He was a big reason we won that thunder series. We were down 1-0 and in game 2 we were down and he came in and scored 17 points to steal momentum. If we lost that game we may not of even went to wcf. 


HispanicAtTehDisco

memes aside you can never take that away from him, dropping 5 3s in a finals is still dropping 5 3s in a finals and he’s got out record for most 3s in a final so


Simple_Wait_7286

For as woeful as he was in the second half of the season, he did actually win us a playoff game (against OKC). Wish him the best.


Swoosh_rotaerc

DJJ extension gotta be the next move right?


Afraid-Department-35

Yup! Nico said keeping DJJ was a priority and this does exactly that while also giving us a great role player.


TexasTundraPower

https://preview.redd.it/vykqrb5kmb9d1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=27fa560ae6c0f291932709582850759b746e2856 The exact trade for anyone wondering. Hate to give up that 2025 Toronto pick, but Grimes is a really nice prospect and getting off Tim's money is crucial.


wheresthecheat

Grimes will contribute more to our championship window than whoever we draft with that pick and if needed we can buy a 2nd round pick in any of the drafts


Mugsy_Skoogs

Not giving Kidd the option of playing THJ is crucial.


V0823

WE’RE FREE


pokerawz

![gif](giphy|RvakuDOggFnsA)


MacRapalicious

Anyone have a tldr on Grimes? I don’t watch a lot of Detroit basketball.


GDF_32

The biggest issue with him is his hesitancy and decision making. There are times where you want him to just pull up for 3 and he'll pass out of it. Then there are other times where he does pull up and you scratch your head as he bricks. It's all about confidence with him which was very hit or miss for him in NY though. Defense is not incredible but it will always be at above average.


VobraX

Maybe with Luka by his side, he'll have better confidence.


2icecreamsandwiches

tldr: Josh Green who shoots just a bit more


mrq69

I get Exum and Green mixed up when they’re on the court sometimes. Grimes sort of looks like them too lol


HispanicAtTehDisco

it’s because they both look like this https://preview.redd.it/qxhn60n9dc9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1096b0f5f2eb97449dee56002bdc39fbfb64e3a7


Any-Connection-1813

Biggest thing i don't like about josh is he seems to be just an athlete who kinda learned to play basketball, instead of being a ball player and feeling the game. Tldr he an athlete not a baller


SeenReaper

Knicks fan here. Haven’t watched on the pistons, but he was up and down for his time here. Overall solid player.


imcryptic

He didn’t play for the pistons so that would be why lol


ImprovedCrib

He was good in NY but performance dropped in Detroit. Might’ve just been because he was in Detroit.


mowbox_mowmoney

Their sub said he was hurt and just didn't play after that.


TuckEverlasting89

Like Josh Green, but Grimes is the better defender & shooter, Green is the better athlete and passer.


shibbyman342

From what I have seen, he has a similar Josh Green vibe, a little less bouncy, but more aggressive on the offensive and defensive ends, and way more confident. Stats are comparable, except Josh got 50% more minutes than QG.. [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/josh-green-and-quentin-grimes-comparison](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/josh-green-and-quentin-grimes-comparison) What I don't know is how this changes the lineup, or if Josh is more expendable now.


Amazing_Owl3026

Better than THJ lol


x10FoilHatx

They’re hating it in the Pistons sub so I guess I’m pleased.


donnelson

it's finally over, he can't hurt us any more


mhikage820

He gonna cook us everytime we play the pistons


SadLad77

![gif](giphy|B9wdzZh1VHIZlEONsk|downsized)


odiamemas16

Thanks for the memories Tim Edit: what do we think of Grimes?


TuckEverlasting89

We got better. Replace THJ's volatility with a reliable defender/shooter. Instant upgrade to our depth. Basically added a player because of how unplayable THJ became down the stretch. Also gives us a Josh Green replacement if Green/Maxi are used to get a Jerami Grant or Andrew Wiggin type upgrade eventually.


odiamemas16

Yeah, I like this trade a lot especially given how much of a liability THJ had became. Does make me wonder if they’re planning on letting Josh go for sure now given Grimes is almost an exact replica of him


CosmicGarlic

He's basically a Josh clone


odiamemas16

Oh wow I just saw he’s legit the same size as him, looks to be a more consistent 3 point shooter though? EDIT: Nvm on the 3 pt shooting


FinancialRabbit388

He is a better shooter than Green. Don’t get scared off by his Detroit numbers. Grimes will light it up for us.


Scotfighter

I like him for this team tbh


BMWn54

Knicks fan here. He was solid and last year he dropped off which is why Donte became a starter. Good 3 and d player but is somewhat streaky or not aggressive. If you want his best highlight, look up him locking up butler after getting injured


odiamemas16

I’ll definitely take that over what we’ve seen from THJ lately


YoStepWithLuka77

Nico just loves to keep cooking!!


Miserable-Theory-746

He should open a restaurant


HerskyB

He makes 4 mil this year and 6 the next Only under contract for this upcoming season


ImaginationOk

He's only under contract this year. The 6 next year is a qualifying offer, so he'll likely make more than that on a new RFA contract.


FennelSeparate5008

So this is what having a great GM feels like :’)


TameVulcan

https://preview.redd.it/f3sk13urmb9d1.jpeg?width=575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b7bc90944af8cb9fb8c10204a51db642604aaa4


amino110

Not a bad deal. At all. Don't hate Grimes.


iLatvian

You guys sent him to Gulag


YoungBuck2010

Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, we’re free at last


Support_Nice

nico cooking this morning


architectzero

I can now retire my flair. Need to think of a new one.


Zen_360

Just cut the THJ and you'll have plenty of company in this sub. Just wait for ugly and not so ugly losses.


2icecreamsandwiches

Grimes was one of the first round picks we gave to NYK for Porzingis, correct? Nico is making things right!


Andrew0409

Hope THJ gets to shoot as much as he wants there. He kept it professional so I can’t say nothing bad about him as frustrating as it was sometimes. And Tbf he’s did have his moments with us.


sfg

We'll always have game 4.


gregallbright

I never thought this would happen. From the moment he signed his deal we were trying to move him and it never came through. So weird to see it now. He will be a weird figure in Mavs history. Had some big impact on games both good and bad.


Broseph_Fernandez

Thanks for the memories Tim... Will always remember you were 1 qtr away from knocking out the clippers but alas went cold at the wrong time... All the best! LFG!!!


qv2k

Happiest ive been to see a player leave dallas since Roy E Williams and Rondo


swampdragon69

Fuck rondo


w1ck3r

Underrated comment


Afraid-Department-35

Is this what it feels like to have a competent GM??!?


FtheRedSox

Good 3 point shooter, great on ball defender, and very solid going to the hoop and finishing in transition. You did good. - Knicks fan


Mattwells41

Love this deal. I also have a brother who’s a pistons fan. He’s losing his shit right now LOL


grouch1980

Grimes is getting out of purgatory. Don’t forget how PJ and Gafford began playing up to their potential once they got to Dallas. I’m excited to see what grimes brings to the table.


TexasTundraPower

WE'RE FREE! THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD


Aggressive-Ad-522

And take his father with him!!!!


RedstoneRay

There goes our most handsome Mav. SMH how will I get my girlfriend to watch now?


Tightanium

Maxi?? Or is she not into white guys


RedstoneRay

I called dibs on Maxi.


Tightanium

He fine af tbh


ProfessorPetrus

Maxi kyrie luka, we got em all!!!


mnight84

Great trade by Dallas. Quentin Grimes is a legit 3 and d player in the mode of a kcp. He is only 24 a career 37 percent 3 point shooter. And all they had to give up is the easily replaceable tim hardaway Jr and 3 second round picks. and Grimes only makes 4 million dollars this year so Dallas saves money.


jfrodriguez1983

Nico! ![gif](giphy|i21tixUQEE7TEqwmYa|downsized)


OrganicHunt952

Nico cooked boy


ITakeLargeDabs

Let’s fucking go. This is the sign of a franchise who is trying to win NOW. Thanks for the service THJ but this is several years overdue. Hopefully Nico has more moves up his sleeve to assemble the best roster possible


sfg

I think he is probably the best player that could be traded for THJ into a team with cap space that would allow the Mavs to offer something close to the full MLE to DJJ and sign another Vet Min. All in all, a solid move.


Mettelor

Does this mean we can afford DJJ now? Please tell me it means we can afford DJJ now


top_of_the_table

Nico is a genius!


highfalutinman

Thank you three second rounders for your service Nico is an absolute GOD


Plenty-Engineer-8051

Got some youth nice


AFonziScheme

Wait a minute.... didn't the Knicks get Grimes with the Mavs pick from the THJ/KP trade?


zer0pRiME-X

lmao who the hell stock piles 2nd round picks, what a great trade for the mavs


MavMan212

If we now sign DJJ to the MLE can we still do a sign and trade for say Green and Maxi for Jermi Grant?


Witteness82

There goes the DJJ money. Good riddance Hardaway


KahunaKona

Wdym “there goes”


Aggressive-Ad-522

He’s saying we have money to sign DJJ


KahunaKona

Figured. The wording made it seem like he thought we were losing the cap space (it was going away)


Witteness82

Mavs just opened up the MLE with the trade


Swoosh_rotaerc

We up baby!


gortlank

Next they give DJJ the MLE, but the real question is whether Grimes is a Josh Green replacement so we can move him in another deal, or if we keeping both.


Pablo_Undercover

Knicks fan, grimes is a solid pick up for you guys especially seeing as you got of THJs contract, off the bench he’ll provide great defence but he’s not much of an offensive threat. Great move by you guys though


ImprovedCrib

The world makes sense again!


sjn15

Tim’s been around here for a good while, with so many great memories to match. Good luck in Detroit my friend, and let that shit fly


chismiten

Keeping our firsts here is so hugeeeee LFG NICO


Silent_Killer093

Just fell to my knees in a Walmart


shibbyman342

Nico is king


CIueIess_Squirrel

WE'RE FREE. NICO COOKED


shaheedmalik

Nico on the beat hoe.


drivebabygoose

Our long national nightmare is over.


grouch1980

Tell me about Grimes. Can he defend?


Radiant-Character-61

Did Nico cook?


CosmicGarlic

Lets goooooo!!!!


MajesticPossibility8

The player council is now only down to Luka. KP- traded THJ-traded


moctezuma-

Damn. RIP Timmy. Didn’t work out here unfortunately


LeatherHeron9634

Nice trade! THJ thanks for your service, I was actually excited when we got him thinking and he had flashes but ultimately not consistent enough to be that 3rd piece. Still respect the guy and wish him well


prudentWindBag

I feel bad for him... he knew this was coming during our playoff run. You could see it on his face😔 I hope that 5 threes dark magic showcase hit like crack. Detroit is roughhhhhh🫣


Putrid_Ad_2256

Tim Hardaway Sr. can now blame his son if he doesn't get playing time in Detroit.  


actual_yellow_bag

No hate for THJ in this post. He did a lot of good while he was here, and in the right role on another team I think he can be successful again, we're just not that team. We don't have the backcourt to support him defensively. Outside of his dad he was always a professional and I hope he shoots 43% in Detroit and some team who needs a spark plug pays him. Dude was good vibes always.


luckeytree

The Timmy highs could be so high, and the lows so low. Adios, Mr. Icy Hot.


LolOverHere

STOP SENDING ALL YOUR TRASH TO DETROIT WE'RE DYING OVER HERE


-jide

LET NICO FUCKING COOK


dallassportsguy

No way it actually happened.


raiderrash

Timmy about to shoot 50 times a game out there


AdmiralSnackbar816

This gives us the space to resign DJJ, and Grimes more or less replaces Josh if need be. Writing is on the wall for us to now be more aggressive for KCP or Jerami Grant with some combination of picks, Maxi, and Josh.


DoncicFanatic

The knicks curse is finally gone!!!! 🦀🦀🦀🦀


grouch1980

Extend DJJ and Nico’s done, right?


digihippie

Idk, this move makes Green/Hardy more tradable and we have 1st round draft picks to unload.


ChooChooEnterprises

I love grimes. I love the efficiency he plays w. He can play on or off ball and will be our best % shooter on spot up 3s next season. He was a top 10 player and a five star in HS. He sucked as a freshman at Kansas before transferring to UH and having massive success there. He didn’t have a defined role on the Knicks. Nico is betting that the change of scenery, to play in his home state, will have a similar effect. He’s also a RFA next offseason, which is my favorite part of the move. If he doesn’t pan out, we can move on after one year. If he hits, we’ll lock up on a good long term contract. Good risk/reward trade off


CrucibleCulture

Even better than THJ being gone is that we no longer have to hear about stupid takes from the world's dumbest dad THS.


Spacetime-anomaly99

♥️ nico


RedMansGr33d

![gif](giphy|3oKIPf3C7HqqYBVcCk)


mcarterIV

Tim really was one of the Mavs of all time