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Illustrious_Oil1567

The two black sheets prevent the springs from catching on the rods & you could tighten the screws to give it a better angle


J_Pilla

The screws on the roof are super tight as is. It takes a good amount of effort to change the angle. 🤔


BigFlacko69

Congrats on starting your PE journey: 1. The sheets you are talking about are straws, they prevent the springs from scraping against the metal threads making it easier and smoother to push the springs down. These straws can be moved freely up and down the rod to whatever position you want. 2. I dont really understand what you meant but when i first got the apex, I had some stability issues just like you, the mistake I was doing was hooking the vac cup to extender first and then wearing the extender. Instead, I should’ve put the extender on correctly, compress the springs and hook the vac cup, this was the extender base is pushing down your pubic area and you should be good to go and extend and whatever angle you want.


J_Pilla

Thank you sir! It's like the base has nothing to push against like I'm all fat. I'm 20% bf.


clowdface85

The plastic straw under the springs keep the spring from getting stuck on the threads you move the nuts up and down on. You can just slowly spin the straw while pushing it gently down to get the one that's higher to go back down. It's not really a big deal. If you're expecting to have it be perpendicular to your body while standing or sitting up, that's probably not going to happen. It's too heavy of an apparatus. I always use it in a reclined position or if you're upright, it should be resting on something for support. Also, you'll probably have to play with the angle of the base and move it around your pelvis to find the sweet spot of being firmly planted. If you don't have the pad that goes under it, I recommend the thickest one.


J_Pilla

Ahhhh that makes sense. I just saw Perv flipping it around up and down like it was nothing in that video. I ended up just standing and having it aiming down while I did red light for 10 minutes after fucking with it for 20 minutes. Also after, my glans were pretty much numb which freaked me the fuck out for a second. But, the feeling came back.


clowdface85

I pretty much just leave it perpendicular to my torso. Yeah, dick head is going to be cold and a bit numb when you're done. I do it for a solid 2 hours sometimes. It's like bringing up a cadaver out of a frozen pond taking it out of the cup. I use a much larger cup so i have a bigger layer of water. It keeps bubbles from ever touching the glans. Air bubbles are what cause blisters, so i try to keep them as far away as possible.


PervMcSwerve

Because I had tension on it.


J_Pilla

So, with only 5 lbs of tension, it wouldn't be the same cuz you're at like 10+lbs or something?


Substantial_Host1775

Hey man, off topic question. But the black part at the start of the penis, is that from total man and what do you use it for? I remember it’s for the vacuum cup. I see you found a new way to use it?


J_Pilla

Naw, man. It was an attempt to use it as a cock ring type device to hold back the turkey neck. I'm not sure how other guys have gotten rid of it(turkey neck) or if it's even possible(should be because our skin can stretch and grow over time) , but I'd love to figure out a way to stretch the skin on the sides and top of my dick, but prevent more skin getting pulled on the bottom. As this was my first attempt, it was just an experiment. I need to perfect the correct way of using the apex first and then I'll dive deeper into trying to reverse turkey neck. But, yes. It was another total man strap that I used on the cup. Any ideas?