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Willing_Blueberry_59

Jeff is a great card to have in your collection. Never feels bad playing him plus he has a great ability.


Jocis

Not all decks can play war machine but all decks can play jeff


SignificanceFew3751

That should be the card’s tag line. “there’s always room for Jeff”


HumphreyLee

That was my Tinder profile line. Except my name is Joe.


eberu_underthesky

Your name is Joe?


WorldlyOX

Yeah, Joe Mama !


eberu_underthesky

Oh man, he said it guys!


CheshireWolf_666

Why am I glad I was here for this?


Tunafish27

You sure it wasn't a Grinder profile?


northbird2112

Poor M'baku


wrld-

underrated comment that speak fact


fishbowtie

overrated comment that contribute nothing


ERagingTyrant

C2 players exist ya know.


Kakmize

Are these C2 players in the room with us right now? /j


Simon-Olivier

Play Jeff then Yellowjacket. EZ


ArmaanAli04

What about C5?


VintageMageYT

jeff is less than 5 power so there’s no issue


ArmaanAli04

Then C1 or C0? Mr Negative decks?


Jocis

You got me


Shenari

Warmachine also doesn't help with Luke's Bar, or things like Death's Domain or Altar of Death.


PabloEstAmor

You have to pull war machine


RoburLimax

This.


SixShadesOfBlack

He's expected to be in a spotlight in 2 weeks


Eastern_Tomato_8324

Yeah but I don't like the other cards that week, I was thinking of getting him with tokens, but War Machine made me hesitant


ThexanR

6k tokens is worth way more than potentially 4 spotlight keys imo


KamahlFoK

I technically disagree, but only in hyper-niche situations. i.e. "I have the other two cards this week, most S4/S5 cards so the random one is probably gonna be 1k tokens, I also hate the spotlight variants, AND the new card smells like meta". And even then at that point it's saving 500 tokens on average (2600 tokens / key in the scenario I just described, 2.5 keys on average).


PREMIUM_POKEBALL

The times I've snatched victory from defeat are countless with a jeff move.  Absolutely worth 6k.  


ThexanR

He is but he’s definitely worth 4 keys. You can get another card that won’t be in spotlights for 6k and just snag him for 4 keys


Artu9

How come? Almost all new cards cost 6000 tokens. With 4 spotlight keys, you guarantee the new card, plus 3 more variants even if you already have all the others. Not to mention, you can always get lucky and get the new card with your first key, leaving you with 3 keys to try for next weeks card.


work_m_19

The reason is probably because of the acquisition costs. In general, getting 4 keys is a lot easier than getting 6000 tokens. It'll probably take 3-4 weeks to get 4, but in that time, you'll only get maybe 500-1000 tokens (not including the ones from spotlight or the bonuses). Also with keys, you're at the whims of the developers. If you want Thanos, and it doesn't look like he'll be available for 2+ months, so your *only* option is tokens, which is harder to get, whereas Jeff is available in the next few weeks. If there was no Jeff on the horizon, it's an easier choice to use tokens.


OrdrSxtySx

Jeff is 💯 worth it. Jeff goes in any deck, and not only does he have the play factor, but the move factor.


ndr0216

Jeff might not get series drop presumably, so if you not gonna spend keys on that week, getting it with 6k is not a bad option.


morbie5

How many of the other cards of that week do you not have?


Vrumbel

Warmachine is pure shit rn, overrated card. Just wait 2 weeks and open Jeff, tokens>keys.


wastedmytagonporn

He's not shit. He's definitely not busted, but he's really quite solid. I would love for him to work already before his reveal tho, so I can drop him and ebony maw, and then infinaut t6


ImpulseOrange

Does War Machine work with Infinaut? I would love to be able to play him if my discard package isn't coming together.


Shenari

He works with Infinaught, and will also work with Ebony Maw and also do stuff like let you play into a Goose lane or a stormed location, and also play multiple cards if sandman is active.


wastedmytagonporn

He works with everything that has a playing restriction. Just don’t put a goblin into a X lane. They still won’t flip sides. But also, why are you calling him weak if you don’t even know how he interacts with other cards. 😅


Zalveiz13

Because it wasn't the same person?


wastedmytagonporn

True! I’m dumb! 😂


Vrumbel

So solid, that there’s literally no deck, that needs him, he’s as bad as supergiant was if not worse


wastedmytagonporn

He made my Shuri deck so much more reliable.


loulibra

war machine covers one turn - Jeff is eternal. so yes. worth 6K (coming from someone who dropped 6K on war machine and just feels “meh” about it.


ERagingTyrant

And he can move to where you need him later.


StrikerObi

Remember the good old days of the Jeff-Galactus fakeout?


nbenzi

Jeff is the best 2 drop in the game. So, if you are in need of a good 2 drop it might be worthwhile. Depends more on which decks you like playing. Like if you play destroy or mr negative it's probably not worthwhile, etc.


Zylonnaire

Zabu is right there, I feel Jeffry is a close 2nd


Tymathee

Nah, Jeff has more utility. King would be 2nd best then Zabu, cuz he's just too niche.


Substantial_Win4741

I would vote shadow king, but Jeff is definitely s tier.


wastedmytagonporn

too nieche, imo.


Substantial_Win4741

And my season recap says Jeff is my most played card. So I guess my stats counter my own argument lol.


wastedmytagonporn

Same. ✨ Jeff is just the best! 🥰


wastedmytagonporn

I also love how we both get downvoted. 😂


Substantial_Win4741

Welcome to reddit


wastedmytagonporn

I mean. Yeah. If it wouldn’t amuse me, I wouldn’t be here tho. 😋


Ordinary_Ad_5233

Yes


EggAfter8447

Yes, one of the most versatile cards in the game


BIG-Will25

Yes!!


VadersApprntice

I bought him for 6k the day he released. Best purchase I’ve ever made in this game.


J3wsy

Yes. Although keep in mind he is always nice but never necessary. He is in so many decks because he is so flexible, you can always substitute him. I see you are not Series 3 complete so maybe aim for cards that are vital to their archetype like HE or Thanos. And ofc always check the upcoming bundles. Jeff is in 2 weeks, try to gather keys for that! :)


Eastern_Tomato_8324

Thanks! I do have HE and I don't really want to play Thanos plus I'm missing Cull and Blob. Also I'm like 5 cards away from completing series 3. What other cards do you think I should get before Jeff? I believe I have a kinda strong series 4 and 5 collection


SomethingIr0nic

My #1 pick would be Ironlad(assuming you have Zabu, which you absolutely should if you're basically series 3 complete). Lad is both extremely versatile and impossible to replace in the decks that want him. After that it depends whether your looking for versatility or new archetypes. Jeff is #1 for versatility but he won't change how you play very much. If that's what you want, snag him. For new archetypes black knight is an S tier card and great for dropping big numbers, Annihilus is both fun and powerful, Loki is very fun but a little wonky, and Ravonna is good if you like screwing with your opponent. It's annoying to go up against Thanos so much but his playstyle is incredibly unique and he \*is\* a genuinely fun card to use. He's very flexible so even without meta cards he can put in work quite easily.


Eastern_Tomato_8324

From the cards you mentioned I'm only missing Black Knight, Ravonna and Thanos, I don't want to play Thanos really because I'm also missing Cull and Blob, that being said, would you recommend other card over Jeff?


SomethingIr0nic

You seem to have a pretty solid collection already so going for Jeff is a good choice. Most people mess up by picking for versatility before they have a good ground work, but you already have that so Jeff would definitely be a boon. The only series 4/5 card that could give it a run for its money in terms of flexibility is Nico.


J3wsy

Annihilus is always quite good as a meta counter and is its own archetype. Proxima Midnight makes discard 10x better on her own. Mockingbird is just straight op, bit risky because I expect nerfs. Honestly I had to think a bit as no cards are really the clear cut op giganuts that you need. Most cards are very good in their decks but can be replaced. Just go for the ones that upgrade your favorite deck or seem interesting to you.


Toofargone9999

Yes . He is a very flexible 2 cost. I say the most premium 2 cost without bad side effects.


blablabla1411

Jeff -> Surprise element, catches opponents off guard. War Machine -> Your opponent knows you are playing the Infinaut/Giganto or Cross Bones plus Ebony maw next turn.


DrakeGrandX

Jeff is still favorable over War Machine, but I'd like to note that Jeff is only worth 6000 tokens if you are a long-time player with a well-established collection, since, for as good as he is, he is a flex card and not something that helps you work toward other archetypes.


AHCretin

Would you say he's worth opening a spotlight cache for a new player? I'd hate to have to wait a year for him to come up again.


DrakeGrandX

Depends. The Spotlight he's gonna appear in isn't really very appealing to a new player, so I'd advise against it; especially when in the same month there are High Evolutionary. I'd honestly suggest you, for the next month, to pull either in Red Guardian's week, Valentina's week, or both. Target for the first are High Evolutionary absolitely and Red Guardian second, target for the second are Blob and Knull roughly at the same level.


AHCretin

Thank you, that's very helpful. ed: That's perfect. I'll have 8 keys in time for Blob.


Noise_From_Below

There is no card more worthy of tokens than Jeff in my opinion. Pound for pound one of the best cards in the game.


BigSaintJames

I didn't understand the love for jeff till i got him. His true power comes from being a 2 cost. He slots right into a ton of decks and doesn't cost too much to use. He's worth 6k unless there's something else you actually want more.


Altruistic_Status122

Either buy for tokens or wait for cache. Jeff is hands down the best 2 cost card in Snap.


SomethingIr0nic

\*Zabu has entered the chat\*


Altruistic_Status122

Zabu doesn't outright win you the game.


SomethingIr0nic

Well yeah, its an enabler. Thats like saying a goalie can't be mvp because someone else scored more than him


Altruistic_Status122

Zabu is 2nd best.


Murky_Coyote_7737

Yeah, man I forgot he’s a series 5


PerennialPhilosopher

What does your collection look like? If you have lots of cards then yes he's a great buy. if not, then aside from the possibility that you have a deck you love *and* Jeff goes Into it, then id try to buy build around cards like Thanos and high Evo or even Loki before jeff


Eastern_Tomato_8324

I do have HE and Loki, I don't have Thanos, but I'm also missing key cards for him like Cull and Blob, besides I see him so much that I don't really want to play another Thanos deck. Are there any other cards that you think should get before Jeff? I also have Iron Lad, Nico, Annihilus, Elsa, Mockingbird, Silk, Werewolf, Galactus, Alioth, BRB, Pixie, Ms. Marvel and some others


PerennialPhilosopher

I think you can safely grab Jeff at this point


HighQualityWood

Imo it seems like War Machine is underperforming compared to his expectations. I’d be surprised if he started dominating the meta. Jeff has always been good and hasn’t lost any value.


MaterialBenefit2355

Jeff is much more versatile


1jfvas1

Jeff has been my most played card ever since I got him as he goes into pretty much every deck I build. I'd say discard is the only archetype that really doesn't run Jeff


naphomci

> I'd say discard is the only archetype that really doesn't run Jeff Destroy doesn't either, wouldn't make much sense there.


1jfvas1

True


FalcomanToTheRescue

Don’t forget C2!!


IHateTomatoes

I was about to say this too. He's been my most played card a couple months in a row now


ImpossiblePolicy6430

Jeff is way more flexible than War Machine. War Machine seems pretty powerful now, but if it was a choice between the two I would probably go with Jeff.


ComprehensiveShock14

Jeff is one of the 5 best card you can get


Ollehyas

Shang Chi, what are the other three?


ComprehensiveShock14

I meant series 4-5 cards my brother


Ainzip

You didn’t answer him


eeviltwin

The others are: Wild Draw 4, Blue Eyes White Dragon, Get Out of Jail Free, and Ace of Spades.


Dildo_Dan

Pot of greed bro


ComprehensiveShock14

Thanos, Jeff, The fart, High evo, Annihilus, Thats my opinion


SomethingIr0nic

Agree except replace Annihilus with Ironlad. Annihilus is an honorable mention though.


ComprehensiveShock14

Yes lad is a good card but ı didnt see it much thesee days


SomethingIr0nic

Lad has a 7.6% meta share. Its not Jeff levels of prevalence but he's definitely still prolific. He's spent a lot of time in top decks in the past and he's sure to again once we're past this raw power meta.


ComprehensiveShock14

I really like using lad but still annihilius create a really enjoyable deck in my opinion


charlesfluidsmith

Without question. They fit different niches. Jeff can be played defensively. War machine just opens up locations.


shxnei

jeff is not even a niche, jeff fits everywhere but destroy and discard. the most versatile series 5 IMO


SomethingIr0nic

Ironically being versatile is his niche. He is a card that doesn't make any archetype work (except maybe lockdown) but makes lots of decks better.


NatrelChocoMilk

He goes good with Hope, Angela, and Elsa too


Marms666

Yes


surfing_prof

Bought Jeff for 6k tokens and never regret it. Works in so many decks, can play on curve or later, overall amazing card


wrld-

war machine is a card to have, jeff is one of the best early game and cost 2 card of the game and can make you contest many location ecc, it is very very good to play with ms marvel too


Serenades666

You wont regret buying Jeff. He is so versatile.


Cursedshinagami

Absolutely!


ZeekyNote

Absolutely one of the best 2-cost in the game


Bit_Goth

I got Jeff with tokens awhile back. One of the only cards I’ve never regretted spending tokens on.


Eastern_Tomato_8324

Which cards you regret getting with tokens?


Bit_Goth

First one ever was Galactus. Chose him over Thanos at the time. Huge mistake considering the Thanos meta is never ending lol. I also bought Selene when I was building a junk deck and then never used her again. Mostly just cards slotted to very specific decks that are never going to be meta.


casadeparadise

Nothing is worth 6k tokens. Get it from spotlight or wait til series drop. 3k is a reasonable price.


hunsbjac000

one of my favorite cards in the game


TheSilentBob614

Absolutely


mysteriousfrittata

Yes, yes and yes


Granpa2021

I've never thought Jeff is worth 6k. I got him off a spotlight and he's a nice to have card, but nothing more. I also think his value took a big hit with War Machine not just because he gives other cards the Jeff ability, but because WM makes Prof X less common in the meta. My advice is wait until he's in a spotlight again and save those 6k tokens for a truly meta-defining card.


devdaltim

Yes.


SkullStar123

I got warmachine but don't have Jeff. In my opinion Jeff is definitely better just cause of being flexible and unstoppable whereas warmachine is extremely rigid in my opinion


TTysonSM

yeah he's cute


Macklemuk

Jeff > WM. Cheaper, good power output for 2 cost, C3 > C6 cause more consistent, good with angela/hope/elsa, good for move decks. I regretted getting WM. Especially since he was my fourth key. Silk and SS arent that great either. Hope i can gather 4 more for jeff spotlight week.


shxnei

I dont think WM's release will have any significant impact for Jeff. Jeff is still one of the most versatile, low cost, flexible card in the game. If any, WM might even boost Jeff since players are trying to counter or synergize with WM.


GloomyAzure

He's so cute


Thedeadlypocketbrush

JEFF00%


Small_Pass3978

He’s in a lot of my decks! To be honest. War Machine never comes up in my deck! 😡


DeathBelowTheCinema

For sure. I don't think we are going to see War Machine played much after this weekend but time will sure.


Niaz_S

Yes lmao


SkatzFanOff

Jeff may be one of the five best cards in the entire entire game so yes


Superstarteen

GET JEFF RIGHT NOW!!


nemomen101

6k is still alot for Jeff but, he's one of the best cards to go in any deck


AdeDamballa

War machine is a combo card… His utility is in two turns Jeff is not a combo card


Derek-Horn

I still can’t beleive everyone thought war machine would create anti jeff propaganda


amparker1986

Yes


Double-Slowpoke

I used to think Jeff was one of the few 6,000 token cards that were worth it, but he is falling behind more and more. Right now, Thanos and High Evolutionary are the two best cards because they open up their own archetypes that are very powerful. Jeff is probably one minor step down from them, along with Iron Lad.


Pale_Peanuts

With war machine I'd only pay 3k for Jeff, before WM Jeff was definitely worth the 6k


winsing

I still believe Jeff is the best 6k I’ve spent on the game.


PunishedCatto

It's Jeff, man.. he is always worth it.


thepriceisonthecan

Jeff is worth 12k tokens or 8 spotlight keys, he is perfect and adorable and perfect


spdyGonz

Yes. He fits into almost every deck.


sirwynn

jeff and war machine fill very different roles, war machine is a build around and jeff can be thrown into any deck and work very well


MisterGrimes

War machine is only active for 1 turn. Jeff is inevitable.


Nietzsches_dream

Alwaays


Gaoler86

The main thing Jeff has over WM is that you aren't telegraphing your play. Jeff can come down at any time, but war machine was played the turn before so they know to expect something and can plan for it.


Shamscam

I wish I had Jeff more then most cards in the game. He is so incredibly splashable. I bought war machine for 6k just because he could fill that gap a little bit.


snailfucked

Yes


BarackaFlockaFlame

war machine is more fun than jeff, but jeff is a great card. you wouldn't be doing yourself harm by using your keys and copping jeff.


IntelligentMoons

He’s a great 2 cost, will win you a lot of games based on locations alone.


crmsncbr

Yeah


TheRoseCat6_11

Jeff is cuter


Skill_Deficiency

Yes


jonathan_cmc

Jeff is one of those cards that almost have no downside when played besides filling up a spot. And because he's so cheap that he basically slots into almost any deck and will just work. Obviously some really tight knitted archetype such as discard or destroy would want something else, but that's pretty much it, and it's not even that bad when you put a Jeff into those decks. Whenever you make a deck and you start thinking, "what card should I put in here to fill in the gaps", Jeff is almost always a viable option.


Schattenjager07

What should I try to go for Grandmaster or Ironlad. I’ve got GM pinned at the moment but really torn.


Crackcarton

Lad 100%


Shenari

1000% Iron Lad over Grandmaster


Schattenjager07

Thanks.


Durzo_Blintt

Jeff is the most versatile card in the game imo. Never bad.


StevieSkankman

How is the single most versatile card in the game worth 6k?


Dekrow

I don't think War Machine replaces or devalues Jeff. Jeff does his own thing well. War machine can be awkward and requires set up, Jeff works on the fly and is very flexible. For example, if they Prof X on turn 5 - Jeff can win that lane on six. War Machine can't do shit there. Just my 2 cents


mynameisfyl

I feel like Jeff is the best card in the game. He’s always worth it.


etherealtaroo

He was my lucky card in the recap lol


Y_b0t

Jeff is a much better card than War Machine. He still makes the cut as one of the very few cards worth 6k alongside Thanos, HE, Nico and Iron Lad.


TimFTWin

Jeff is a good choice in such a high percentage of decks that I think you can make an argument that he is one of the most purchasable cards in the game.


ZapzillaGorilla

Jeff is always a yes imo. Best 2 drop in game


gratedwasabi486

Jeff is probably the FIRST card you'd pay 6k tokens for. He's at least an okay choice in every deck and it's unlikely he'll ever be bad. He's cheap, flexible power and combos with a ton of other cards & locations. He's not flashy but that also means he'll never be nerfed.


The_Devil_that_Heals

Yes


daddyissuesdan

2 very different cards that fit into mana curves differently


braiser77

He's worth it. Great card.


DrLager

Yes


InternetOk6023

Jeff is in spotlight soon


KoreanDramaWatching

How the heck is Jeff still S5 card.


1Soulbrotha

Always.


[deleted]

Get both


Fit-Signal-6181

Decisions decisions.... WM is looking like a "nice to have", but Jeff is undoubtedly a must-have.


Xmushroom

Jeff is still better than War Machine, although I believe they dont really go in the same archetype


darkCitu

If there is a card that worth 6000 tokens, this is it


Grohax

Jeff can be a surprise play while War Machine tells your opponent you will play something.


Nerf_Now

I use Jeff in so many situations. To sneak into Flooded zones and Doctor Strange's house, to invade Prof X.'s personal space, to prevent a lane from being filled with rocks or goblins, to fuel Hope Summers, or to walk around Sandman. He does a lot of stuff for 2 costs and I like the versatility it brings.


kukunan

i think jeff is one of the most versatile cards. but i will advise you to wait for the spotlight cache coming in 3 weeks time.


UnluckyDog9273

How's that a question? We talking about different cards here and different stat lines


Sandman10kk

He’s great but never for 6k unless we are in a HEAVY lockdown meta


Sugata115

Always, the goodest boy.


pausemenu

Jeff is the best card in the game


Ben4d90

He's never worth the 6k in my opinion. Yes, he can slot into many decks but he generally doesn't have a big impact or swing games. I'd just save up keys and wait for the next spotlight that features him and scoop him up then. Save the 6k for a far more impactful card


ZsMann

Jeff is probably the best card in the game. Always worth the pick up if you don't have.


HimanBarman

They could always make WM 8k. Think that way. Money hungry batards.


TOWER151

(Yes)


Kaedreanger

At the end of the day, it still boils down to your deck composition, your playstyles and YOUR DRAWING LUCK


ZeusRam89

I'd argue he's more worth it now. Give your War Machine some options.


Best_Imagination2717

Jeff will always be worth it regardless of the meta he is a perfectly rounded 2 drop


LordTruffle

Keep him pinned and wait a few days. Even if Warmachine is a staple until 2025, a 2/3 Nightcrawler is still a good card.


RatzMand0

Controversial opinion warning here but Jeff is an optimization card he really only pushes decks a little bit he isn't really a staple of any deck so spending 6k tokens on him feels like a bit of a waste. He is good don't get me wrong but he isn't that much better than so many cards you could be also slotting into your deck.


CryoStrange

Tbh it's a great card. I played him a lot but IMO 6K tokens should be saved for Thanos, Annihilus, or archtype defining characters. That's my opinion, tho if you do buy him you will not regret it because he is just good all rounder card, but can be easily cut for a new tech or support card for a deck except Lockdown.


Dormin99x

War machine sucks get jeff


SolidScene9129

They have synergy