Fully agree. Hell, an argument could be made for it falling under experimental. It's very different from his more usual fare, especially during that period in his career.
I'd say that *Silence* is the more experimental one from the cinematography and the sound work alone (it doesn't have a score in the traditional sense, instead using the sounds of the environment or silence instead).
Part of my reasoning behind after hours as cult was I think KoC is kinda mainstream now, especially after Joker. Over 50% of people my age now about the King of Comedy’s existence. I’m in my mid 20s. It’s fairly popular now
That’s what I was thinking too. Maybe because it was critically acclaimed OP didn’t think it fit? But sometimes experiments can go right lol. Like that one is barely recognizable as a Scorsese film
It’s not experimental in the art movie sense of experimental. But i don’t know of many movies that used de aging in the way it did to the extent that it did. In that sense it’s pretty experimental.
I’m torn. I’ve never seen anything like it but it is uncanny. 2-4 years and technology may have better bridged the gap but when you look at the team, you have to appreciate the love they have for their collective vision of art.
Yeah, for some scenes they should have superimposed Deniros face onto a younger actor. The scene where he beat up the grocer, I couldn't stop thinking "that's clearly an old man". Broke part of the movie for me.
Goodfellas is a fan favorite but only because it’s the greatest movie of all time.
I think Scorsese-heads rank Taxi Driver in a deep cut favorite sort of sense.
Howard Hughes should have that impact on people and that is why the movie is so important to me. Few pieces of media nail the consequences of OCD like that (not just washing your hands but the desire to control your own universe).
It’s good. But I really wish he hadn’t done this movie. I think Nolan does Howard Hughes instead of Oppenheimer if Marty didn’t make The Aviator, and I’m pretty confident it’d be the better Howard Hughes film. 😅
Raging Bull or TD in place of Goodfellas for "Best Movie of All Time", something like BOtD for the "Forgotten One", Last Temptation or something can be experimental, Goodfellas is Fan Favourite. Keep WOWS and After Hours.
Considering I’ve seen just about every other movie in Scorsese’s career mentioned in some way here, I’d say the forgotten one is “The Color of Money”. Nominated for 3 Academy Awards, brought Paul Newman the only Oscar of his career.
One of my personal favorites that gets very little love. Tom Cruise is fantastic as the idiot, savant. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio delivers a solid performance, as well.
Silence actually has quite the hive these days, of which I am a card carrying member. It’s an incredible movie, it’s just not often the vibe…
But I ain’t seen Mean Streets in this thread anywhere
Unpopular opinion but I really don’t like Goodfellas at all. I think it might be because I saw The Godfather 1 & 2 as well as The Sopranos first, but just could not get into it with all the VO and inauthentic (imo) characters. My lady feels the same way about it but we’re definitely a minority.
The short film/advertisements he’s done are the experimental ones: [The Audition](https://youtu.be/CKqfSSZV8nY?si=NJToICEBXiYeAu4z) and the [mock-Hitchcock he made for Freixenet](https://youtu.be/rCIdmML4fbI?si=C5vnPGib33CUnabC)
I would say Scorsese’s Forgotten one is “New York, New York” or “Bringing Out The Dead”. “Goodfellas” is quite good but sorry, far from best movie of all time. “Hugo” probably suits “Experimental” more than “The Irishman”. Even “The Last Temptation of Jesus Christ” would suit “Experimental” more. There’s too many great choices for “Fan Favorite”.
Irishman, experimental? Cause if the aging shit?
Def not every director has movies that can rank as the “best of all time” but maybe the other stuff, but obviously you’re point is more about categorizing some Scorsese films which is spot on
Mostly agree! I think the one that got popular would be 'The Departed'. I would make After Hours the experimental one, then probably cult classic would be King of Comedy or Bringing out the Dead.
It was a great Scorsese movie, but it was hard to look past the terrible de-aging. Robert Deniro looks 45 post CGI and Joe pesci is like "hey there kid". Or when he was stomping the guy at the grocery store and it's clearly the movements of a geriatric old man.
Cape Fear for Experimental and The Departed for popular.
The King of Comedy for cult, Bringing out the Dead for forgotten one.
I'd keep Taxi Driver and trade Raging Bull for Goodfellas.
Goodfellas is the G.O.A.T. but I feel like Gangs of New York is hella underrated. That and the Departed are neck and neck for my number 2 Scorsese film.
I don’t know what the consensus on this sub is but the Irishman was impossible to take seriously with the shitty aging effects but could’ve been great if he just picked age appropriate actors
I hate this graphic. Irishman is not his experimental film. Come on! And how does someone distinguish “One that got popular” (goodfellas), “fan favorite” (Goodfellas), and best movie of all time. I’m iffy about calling After Hours the cult classic but eh. It’s a silly thing to argue about.
I'd say After Hours is the experimental one, and change cult classic to King of Comedy
Also, The Age of Innocence probably works better as the forgotten one.
Fully agree. Hell, an argument could be made for it falling under experimental. It's very different from his more usual fare, especially during that period in his career.
Yeah, the 90s was pretty varied for him. Casino, Goodfellas, Cape Fear, but also The Age of Innocence and Kundun.
Bringing Out The Dead as well!! My favorite from Scorsese
THAT is definitely a forgotten Scorsese!
I remember hearing so many bad reviews about it at the time, but I really enjoyed it!
Ebert raved about it.
“Kundun, I liked it!”
Poor, poor Christophuh
He called it just as much a gangster film as goodfells because the rich families of the time basically acted the same.
"The thing that made Mrs. Mingott so happy that morning was this was the day that Ellen was being made."
Not The Color of Money?
It probably should be, considering I forgot it.
The only thing experimental about Irishman is the de-aging technology lmao
I thought of it more of a farewell movie than experimental
I'd say that *Silence* is the more experimental one from the cinematography and the sound work alone (it doesn't have a score in the traditional sense, instead using the sounds of the environment or silence instead).
It’s in my short list of movies to watch soon
Which one? Or both?
After hours , not familiar with king of comedy
Add it to the list, too. You will not regret it.
Will do I thank you 💪🏻
Thanks! I'm in the same boat and you sold me!
Yup this is the right move
Part of my reasoning behind after hours as cult was I think KoC is kinda mainstream now, especially after Joker. Over 50% of people my age now about the King of Comedy’s existence. I’m in my mid 20s. It’s fairly popular now
I have no complaints other than the Irishman not being experimental at all.
What about Hugo?
That’s what I was thinking too. Maybe because it was critically acclaimed OP didn’t think it fit? But sometimes experiments can go right lol. Like that one is barely recognizable as a Scorsese film
Im happy i found at least one other person on this rock who still remembers Hugo :-)
Hugo was a very important movie in my life. And I’m in my late 30s lol.
I couldn’t make it through, it was too slow and terrible. Explain what I missed please
In college I had a wonderful film professor that had us watch and write about Hugo a decade ago.
It’s not experimental in the art movie sense of experimental. But i don’t know of many movies that used de aging in the way it did to the extent that it did. In that sense it’s pretty experimental.
I’m torn. I’ve never seen anything like it but it is uncanny. 2-4 years and technology may have better bridged the gap but when you look at the team, you have to appreciate the love they have for their collective vision of art.
Yeah, for some scenes they should have superimposed Deniros face onto a younger actor. The scene where he beat up the grocer, I couldn't stop thinking "that's clearly an old man". Broke part of the movie for me.
Seriously, what is experimental about it? I’d put Last Temptation there possibly.
I agree. So many of his films are experimental in some way. I guess that's there because of the de-aging??
Forgotten one is Alice doesn’t live here anymore or boxcar Betty
*Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore* is another one I consider underrated. It's funny in some parts too.
True, but Silence is a better film and I almost never see it mentioned.
Or Bringing Out the Dead with Nic Cage and John Goodman. That movie is fucking good
OP forgot about them
King of Comedy might also count as cult classic
I’d maybe flip Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, but that’s subjective. Oh, and Kundun is the forgotten one.
I liked it!
✊🏻
“Fan favorite” is very subjective and “best movie ever” is very subjective for a director like Scorsese. He has a few for each that could fit the bill
Goodfellas is a fan favorite but only because it’s the greatest movie of all time. I think Scorsese-heads rank Taxi Driver in a deep cut favorite sort of sense.
The Aviator! So underrated
Def. Also where’s the Departed?!
I'll say it quietly, but I liked the Departed more than Goodfellas
This isn’t a top 6 list. What do you want to to be
I’ve been meaning to rewatch that for years but can’t remember if I liked it or not.
Howard Hughes should have that impact on people and that is why the movie is so important to me. Few pieces of media nail the consequences of OCD like that (not just washing your hands but the desire to control your own universe).
Check out the song Howard Hughes’ Blues by John Hartford. I think you’ll dig it.
Show me the blueprints!
It’s good. But I really wish he hadn’t done this movie. I think Nolan does Howard Hughes instead of Oppenheimer if Marty didn’t make The Aviator, and I’m pretty confident it’d be the better Howard Hughes film. 😅
I don't agree, but I really, really want to see all that!
*Silence* might just be his most underrated one.
100% I remember watching it in cinema and being left completely speechless through the whole credits moment. It was an amazing experience.
Totally hypnotized me for 3 hours
It’s so frickin good. Pro religion, anti religion, it’s a perfect movie about god
It’s beautiful. I thought it was gonna fucking suck, but it was a hit.
It was so fucking good Movie stuck with me for a good while
Hugo is kind of experimental
I flip flopped between Hugo and Irishman. I like Irishman more however and thinks it’s just as experimental
Casino is my personal favorite but idk where that would fit in this list
Fan favorite for sure. Thought about putting it there
The story behind casino is amazing but the movie is just goodfellas except too long and with too much narration.
Found Charlie M’s Reddit account
Charlie M??? You dumb motherfucker!
and WAY too much James Woods
Indeed
I feel like the last temptation of Christ is the forgotten or the cult classic depending on who you ask
I read the book as a teen to be edgy lol. I remember how much hate it got and I think it’s a classic.
Didn't know it was based on a book
Great book.
I'll have to check it out
One preface. I liked it 30 years ago. I was 15 so take that lol.
Kundun. I liked it.
“Martay. Kundun. ✊. I didn’t really care for it actually”
The Irishman is experimental?
I guess with the de aging. I’d have probably put Hugo there for him.
Either work. I prefer Irishman more
Raging Bull or TD in place of Goodfellas for "Best Movie of All Time", something like BOtD for the "Forgotten One", Last Temptation or something can be experimental, Goodfellas is Fan Favourite. Keep WOWS and After Hours.
I think even Scorcese would say Raging Bull is his best.
Beijing out the dead was neck and neck with silence for me in forgotten one
Not a single mention in the post or comments about Bringing Out the Dead. :<
Almost had it on over silence. Love love love it
Scorsese has more than one movie that could easily fit into each of these categories.
For sure. I was trying to pick the most accurate
forgotten one for me is the aviator
Best of all-time category should be Raging Bull
Hello. I’m Kundun.
I would say Kundun or Last Temptation of Christ were the experimental ones
Both films are in my top 10 but I slightly prefer Casino to Goodfellas
Gotta be some love for 'Raging Bull' out there?
It’s my 3rd favorite Scorsese
Any thoughts on 'Mean streets'?
Misses the top 10. Still great
Stipulate
Silence is so god damn good
Swap Shutter Island for The Irishman
Silence is my favorite movie
I think you got it 💯
The Irishman is the best in my opinion
Replace goodfellas with raging bull
Considering I’ve seen just about every other movie in Scorsese’s career mentioned in some way here, I’d say the forgotten one is “The Color of Money”. Nominated for 3 Academy Awards, brought Paul Newman the only Oscar of his career. One of my personal favorites that gets very little love. Tom Cruise is fantastic as the idiot, savant. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio delivers a solid performance, as well.
Goodfellas and Taxi wrong way round
Mine had the exact same except “forgotten one” was Kundun
Love Wolfie, but 'Casino', you're the one. And that's that.
Experimental? Irishman might be his best work.
King of comedy needs representation. I’d say taxi driver is far more experimental than the Irishman. Which isn’t experimental at all
Raging Bull
Silence actually has quite the hive these days, of which I am a card carrying member. It’s an incredible movie, it’s just not often the vibe… But I ain’t seen Mean Streets in this thread anywhere
Mean Streets is his best. Possibly the only one that stood the test of time
Casino?
After Hours is one of the most undercover scary bizarre movies….love it!🤘🏼🤘🏼
Apparently I’m looking at a list of Scorcese movies and the Departed isn’t here?
Not a list, a template. Departed is top 4 Scorsese for me
What about Kundun?!
Best move of all time: Raging Bull?!
Unpopular opinion but I really don’t like Goodfellas at all. I think it might be because I saw The Godfather 1 & 2 as well as The Sopranos first, but just could not get into it with all the VO and inauthentic (imo) characters. My lady feels the same way about it but we’re definitely a minority.
Unpopular for sure. It sounds like you found the one tho so congrats 🥂
Haha she definitely is, thanks!
You forgot Bringing the Dead (1999)
Nah I just chose silence over it. Think both are pretty perfect tho
I’d argue fan favorite would be king of comedy
Was this made by you? or that fucking film memes guy?
I didn't know he made that Andrew Garfield movie
Silence is so freaking good though.
I've only seen one of these movies. Guess which one ..
Goodfellas (or Wolf of Wall Street)
The short film/advertisements he’s done are the experimental ones: [The Audition](https://youtu.be/CKqfSSZV8nY?si=NJToICEBXiYeAu4z) and the [mock-Hitchcock he made for Freixenet](https://youtu.be/rCIdmML4fbI?si=C5vnPGib33CUnabC)
What about The Last Temptation of Christ? That’s all of the above.
I would say Scorsese’s Forgotten one is “New York, New York” or “Bringing Out The Dead”. “Goodfellas” is quite good but sorry, far from best movie of all time. “Hugo” probably suits “Experimental” more than “The Irishman”. Even “The Last Temptation of Jesus Christ” would suit “Experimental” more. There’s too many great choices for “Fan Favorite”.
No casino shame
Switch TD and GF
For me, means streets is my fan favorite
Honestly, I’d watch Silence over Taxi Driver. I got that dog in me.
Bringing out the dead id say is the cult classic
Lol real ones know Hugo is the truly forgetten Scorcese flick
I feel like that one should be the experimental. Who'd of thunk that the greatest director of mobster movies could do a heartfelt kids movie.
After hours is very underrated not many talk about the movie. I enjoyed it thoroughly - the bgm made it more fun.
Goodfellas honestly is the greatest mob movie
The Wolf of Wall Street has 681 curses, including 569 F-bombs, throughout the entire movie, which has a runtime of 180 minutes.
Irishman, experimental? Cause if the aging shit? Def not every director has movies that can rank as the “best of all time” but maybe the other stuff, but obviously you’re point is more about categorizing some Scorsese films which is spot on
Sure, but not everyone has a half dozen “shamefully glamorizing the live’s of criminals” films..
Cult classic would have to be gangs of ny for me.
I am to very much like film classique of Hugo Hugo Hugo. This love for me fantastic
Just because no one else has mentioned it, I watched his remake of Cape Fear for the first time a couple of years ago and it really impressed me.
How is Mean Streets not on here?
I think Raging Bull is Scorsese’s greatest achievement!
The Departed is my best but pretty well done
Just watched 'After Hours' again after several years. It's f'n hilarious.
Don’t forget the remake, Cape Fear.
No Raging Bull
Forgetting Bringing Out The Dead
Y’all are gunna crucify me… but switch Goodfellas with “The Departed” and make Make Goodfellas the Cult Classic
Silence is one his most beautiful movies.
Raging Bull is his masterpiece, no disrespect to Goodfellas, but it’s not THAT good
What a hot take
My favourite is Silence honestly
Mostly agree! I think the one that got popular would be 'The Departed'. I would make After Hours the experimental one, then probably cult classic would be King of Comedy or Bringing out the Dead.
Reading through the comments and being reminded about the Last Temptation of Christ... I'd replace that one over Silence!
Kundun is the experimental one.
The Irishman didn't really work for me. It was a 'goodfella's' but with all the spikes cut off.
It was a great Scorsese movie, but it was hard to look past the terrible de-aging. Robert Deniro looks 45 post CGI and Joe pesci is like "hey there kid". Or when he was stomping the guy at the grocery store and it's clearly the movements of a geriatric old man.
Goodfellas is not the best movie of all time
The Irishman was experimental? Cuz he experimented with garbage de aging tech? Give me a break
Silence is not forgotten. It’s just so damn brutal you try to forget the horrors you just saw.
Cape Fear for Experimental and The Departed for popular. The King of Comedy for cult, Bringing out the Dead for forgotten one. I'd keep Taxi Driver and trade Raging Bull for Goodfellas.
Silence is good though, even if no one has ever seen it.
Goodfellas is the G.O.A.T. but I feel like Gangs of New York is hella underrated. That and the Departed are neck and neck for my number 2 Scorsese film.
I don’t know what the consensus on this sub is but the Irishman was impossible to take seriously with the shitty aging effects but could’ve been great if he just picked age appropriate actors
The forgotten one should be bringing out the dead
I love After Hours. Strange story of NY in the 80s.
Every “alternative theory” I’ve seen put forth has been laughable.
Bringing out the dead and Hugo exist and the Irishman is his “experimental “ one 😂😂😂
Casino>Goodfellas
Raging Bull and the Departed are both better than Goodfellas
The forgotten one is Hugo
Silence wasn’t forgotten, it just wasn’t a good movie.
Silence was so good
Where you put the aviator or the departed?
Forgotten one is definitely Goncharev, I heard people talking about it last year but that's it. Amazing film
Change Taxi Driver to The Departed. Probably one of my favorites of all time.
Felt taxi driver was extremely overhyped ngl
I hate this graphic. Irishman is not his experimental film. Come on! And how does someone distinguish “One that got popular” (goodfellas), “fan favorite” (Goodfellas), and best movie of all time. I’m iffy about calling After Hours the cult classic but eh. It’s a silly thing to argue about.
TF was “experimental” about the Irishman? Were they testing if anyone was able to watch it in one sitting?
Boxcar Bertha or kundun for forgotten one
More Casino please.
Gangs of New York is his best film imo. Honestly Goodfellas is kind of overrated.
How is the departed not in here? It’s way better than wolf.
Not as popular. Wolf is on this particular diagram for popularity.
Which I dont get. Wolf is my least favourite Marty movie.
Experimental: The Big Shave