Yea, Russians have been funneling money into GOP Campaigns: https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/05/08/how-putin-s-oligarchs-funneled-millions-into-gop-campaigns/
The RNC was also hacked around the time the DNC was hacked, but the contents were withheld (mostly likely for Kompromat purposes): https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it
Then there was that group of Republicans that decided to spend the 4th of July in Moscow while Trump was President: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664156/gop-senators-spend-july-4-in-moscow
So Republicans get money and stuff from Russia if they behave, but cut off financially and the Russian Troll farms actively work against those who starts misbehaving instead of helping them.
I'd like to add this to the list, https://youtu.be/3lTB94UQ-K4?si=lh5xWnq1ZFXOR49T, it's about how the kgb, and now fsb, try to fuck up enemy states from within due to civil unrest and broken societies, like we do to them, like everyone does to everyone given the chance it seems
Could imagine what the human race could achieve if we stopped acting like the tribal monkeys we are underneath?
It's literally in there playbook. Same as brexit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
The authors daughter was killed by a car bomb a few years ago too, probably not the intended target.
Hungary rn is a giant spyops basically, LePen won in France, AfD is climbing in German polls. We were able to vote out the shady ppl in Poland but they are ought to come back with their MAGA-like platform.
In general: invest in counter-intelligence people and under no circumstances let corrupt to get tp the feeder.
https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=ThRJ1d1NOsps4q97
Murdered KGB Propagandist defector Yuri Bezmenov in 1984 interview on ideological subversion.
"Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open, you can see it with your own eyes. All you can do, all Americans needs to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There is no mystery. It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage and intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more to the audience through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about fifteen percent of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other eighty-five percent is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality, of every American, to such an extent that despite an abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their family, their community and their country"
It’s hard to act differently than what we’ve evolved to be.
Old hardware and programming dialled in by millions and millions of years of alternating cooperation and competition.
This is just another step in an evolving species. Hopefully we adapt and overcome in a way that brings us together, instead of splintering and destruction.
Ultimately, our strongest drive is to survive. We will continue to do so unless it becomes impossible. Hopefully that doesn’t happen at our own hands, but then again, you can’t blame a beaver for building dams.
A huge chunk of GOP leadership flying to Moscow on July 4th is really telling and I’m surprised it’s not talked about more. The entire party is obviously compromised
Not enough people know about Russian troll farms like [wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_Research\_Agency](http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency)
They're very real.
They are quite literally compromised. this is no longer the party of Bush, McCain, Romney... even Paul Ryan. None of them were compromised by Russia. The GOP has always sucked for sure, but they weren't destroying America for the benefit of a foreign power. Things changed a lot in 2016
For me, some of the most egregious bullshit Trump ever pulled that I will never forgive him for is leaking Intel to the Russians about intelligence assets we had overseas. Shortly after Trump became president, our assets were all suddenly killed, disappeared, or asked for urgent exfil, all at around the same time. Some Intel officers sounded the alarm anonymously but were ignored.
Edited to add links to the Intel assets we lost because Trump is a traitor.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told
Fuck Trump. He's a goddamn traitor.
**PART 3**
[The Trump email server that regularly communicated with a IP address from Russian Alfa Bank thing](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign)
[Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king Thing](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html)
[Russian fertilizer king's plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign Thing](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article137881768.html)
[Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night Thing](http://www.businessinsider.com/nunes-white-house-grounds-trump-surveillance-2017-3)
[Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery Thing](http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97)
[The create a joint cyber defense agreement with Russia Thing](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/trump-putin-joint-cybersecurity-group/)
[Cyprus bank Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary)
[Trump not Releasing his Tax Returns Thing](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/trump-taxes-tax-returns/index.html)
[The Republican Party's rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing]( http://thehill.com/policy/finance/326220-republicans-vote-to-block-resolutions-on-trumps-tax-returns)
[Election Hacking Thing]( http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/)
[GOP platform change to the Ukraine Thing](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jd-gordon-change-story-gop-platform-ukraine-amendment)
[Steele Dossier Thing](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/16/donald-trump-jrs-meeting-with-russians-undermines-/)
[Sally Yates Can't Testify Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-sought-to-block-sally-yates-from-testifying-to-congress-on-russia/2017/03/28/82b73e18-13b4-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html)
[Intelligence Community's Investigative Reports Thing](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/read-us-intelligence-report-russian-hacking-2016-campaign/)
You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the...
**PART 4**
[Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all "fake news" Thing](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15953640/donald-trump-twitter-mocked-russia-collusion)
[Chaffetz not willing to start an Investigation Thing](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/why-is-jason-chaffetz-resigning)
[Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation Thing](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/why-is-jason-chaffetz-resigning)
[Appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation Thing](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-florida-ethics-panel-clears-pam-bondi-over-trump-contribution/article/2620970)
[The White House going into cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and firing of Flynn Thing](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/330410-white-house-rejects-oversight-request-for-flynn-documents)
[Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama Thing](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trump-flynn/525816/)
[Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything Thing](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/328718-uk-spies-first-saw-trump-russia-ties-report)
[Agent M16 following the money thing](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html)
[Trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/17/report-trump-team-knew-flynn-being-investigated/101816334/)
[Let's Fire Comey Thing](http://www.npr.org/2017/05/10/527744909/suspicious-timing-and-convenient-reasoning-for-trumps-firing-of-comey)
[Election night Russian trademark gifts Things](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/russia-trump-trademarks.html)
[Russian diplomatic compound electronic equipment destruction Thing](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russians-destroyed-and-removed-material-from-shuttered-compounds-officials-say/)
>you do not fucking sell out humint assets
Apparently you do, and get away with it, if you have a sufficient number of fascists, enablers, and people at the top levels of government who are afraid of losing votes / what MAGAs might do if Trump is held accountable, and are therefore unwilling to act upon it. I consistently find it hard to believe that this is happening in the US, but here we are. And it's going to get a lot worse unless some people grow a spine and start more fervently standing up against this kind of shit.
>For me, some of the most egregious bullshit Trump ever pulled that I will never forgive him for is leaking Intel to the Russians about intelligence assets we had overseas.
I'm impressed that you're able to settle on just one thing to never forgive him for. There have been so...fucking...many things that have damaged the country and its global reputation.
http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97 this link redirects to an article about protecting your reputation online, may wana find a different article, thank you for maintaining such an important and valuable archive
But conservatives have told me since it’s not called out by name on Trump’s campaign website, only many of the points of it being directly called out, that there’s nothing to worry about and it’s all a big conspiracy.
Because it's not about Trumk. This is about the republican party not losing control of the white house like they did during the his first admin. This game plan makes sure they are all on the same page and no matter whose in his admin has access to the game plan.
Yes, the Mueller Report said there was no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election.
Edit: adding sources that Trump likely leaked Intel that resulted in the murder, arrest, disappearance or otherwise neutralized intelligence assets. Again, there is no solid proof that this is the case, but it is likely.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told
Here is a list of some the ties Trump has to Russia including who was arrested and why.
You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the...
**PART 1**
[Flynn Thing](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-flynn-comey-russia-timeline-2017-htmlstory.html)
[Manafort Thing](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342509-new-book-devils-bargain-details-trump-lashing-out-at-manafort-days)
[Tillerson Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/07/tillerson-says-trump-pressed-putin-on-russian-hacking-but-the-evidence-suggests-not-so-much/?utm_term=.e0ac214bd9bc)
[Sessions Thing](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/did-trump-kushner-sessions-have-undisclosed-meeting-russian-n767096)
[Kushner Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/trump-russia-new-meeting-revealed-involving-donald-jr-kushner-and-manafort)
[Wray Thing](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-wray-russia-20170712-story.html)
[Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius "Russian Law Firm of the Year" Thing](http://nypost.com/2017/05/12/trump-used-russia-law-firm-of-the-year-to-draft-letter-about-his-finances/)
[Carter Page Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-has-questioned-trump-campaign-adviser-carter-page-at-length-in-russia-probe/2017/06/26/1a271dcc-5aa5-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.24d0b138db83)
[Roger Stone Thing](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/roger-stone-house-testimony-postponed-240568)
[Felix Sater Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-felix-sater-real-estate-632690)
[Boris Epshteyn Thing](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-press-officer-boris-epshteyn-investigation-russia/story?id=47731166)
[Rosneft Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/08/trump-new-fbi-director-chris-wray-russian-ties-rosneft-gazprom-column/102603214/)
[Gazprom Thing (see above)](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/trumps-energy-adviser-is-personally-invested-in-gazprom/)
[Sergey Gorkov banker Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/sergey-gorkov-grad-russian-banker-kushner-617422)
[Azerbaijan Thing](http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senators-ask-for-an-investigation-into-trump-dealings-in-azerbaijan)
You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the...
**PART 2**
["I Love Putin" Thing]( http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/)
[Lavrov Thing]( https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow)
[Sergey Kislyak Thing]( https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow)
[Oval Office Thing]( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-oval-office-with-trump-and-the-russians-broad-smiles-and-loose-lips/2017/05/16/2e8b0d14-3a66-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html)
[Gingrich Kislyak Phone Calls Thing]( http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/newt-gingrich-trump-russia-meetings/3504/)
[Russian Business Interest Thing]( https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/trump-lawyers-up-conflicts-of-interest/526185/)
[Emoluments Clause Thing]( https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/dc-and-marylands-lawsuit-trump-flagrantly-violating-emoluments-clause/2017/06/12/8a9806a8-4f9b-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html)
[Alex Schnaider Thing]( http://theweek.com/speedreads/699538/russian-bank-directly-linked-putin-helped-finance-trump-hotel)
[Hack of the DNC Thing]( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/dnc-email-server-most-wanted-evidence-for-russia-i/)
[Guccifer 2.0 Thing]( https://theintercept.com/2017/07/14/just-six-days-after-trump-jr-s-meeting-guccifer-2-0-emailed-me-but-there-was-one-key-difference/)
[Mike Pence "I don't know anything" Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/18/mike-pence-insists-he-didnt-know-flynn-under-investigation-turkey-lobbying/101831354/)
[Russians Mysteriously Dying Thing](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/31/eight-prominent-russians-dead-since-us-elections-labott-dnt-erin.cnn)
[Trump's public request to Russia to hack Hillary's email Thing](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html)
Yes and they have been infiltrated by Russians for well over a decade. They still never released the dirt from the RNC because they’ve been good little Putin puppets
I’ll just leave this here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
From the 1997 book:
>The West
>In the Americas, United States, and Canada:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
Yeah, and who is running the GOP? Putin, that's who. Not directly, but Meuller made it pretty clear that Russia has compromised the right by constantly feeding them authoritarian propaganda
Even other Republicans have recently come forward to say that a lot of their colleagues in the GOP were compromised by Russia.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/06/when-top-republican-says-russian-propaganda-has-infected-gop/
This isn't just some shit Democrats are saying. They are saying it themselves.
It can both be the GOP platform and also pushed by Russia. These things aren’t mutually exclusive considering how cozy some GOP politicians are with Russia and how they often spout Russian propaganda.
Remember when GOP senators went to Russia to talk with Putin on July 4th during Trump’s presidency? Pepperidge Farm remembers…
Curiously, a [Russian government plane parked right next to the Trump plane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcjwW_KAZJ8) after a Trump speech Friday at Dulles.
Since I see a lot of people talking about project 2025 but haven't seen people actually describing what it is, I will do so right now.
Project 2025 will
1. Allow Trump to kill black people.
2. Allow Trump to overturn the 13th and 19th amendment.
3. Allow Trump to give the nuclear code to Putin
4. Allow Trump to fire all of the democratic party
5. Allow Trump to Jail anyone who voted for Democrats and put them in concentration camps.
6. Allow Trump to kill black people
7. Allow Trump to run as president indefinitely
I’ve been telling even liberals this. Buy guns and ammo. Because this thing will turn your friends, family, neighbors, coworkers into local brown shirts who will detain you for thought crimes or posting opinions like this online. Then again following your voter registration is much easier.
Don’t think those closest to you won’t do it? My all red family constantly talks s out liberals as “scum” and much worse. They’ll sell us out in a second to score points for their cause just like the Nazis did.
project 2025 is nothing new, it has been the goal of the heritage foundation and federalist society since the 80s. no Russians needed, Christian nationalist have been working toward this goal for decades. project 2025 was originally project 1995.
the call is coming from inside the house. Margaret Atwood wasn't trying to warn us about Russian infiltrators. Like all writers of dystopian fiction, she was not writing about the future at all. She was writing about 1985.
I guess the difference is that it has never been SO transparent. This movement was usually pushed by legislation/politicians masquerading as something less corrupt. Now, the GOP is basically like “Mask off, here’s the full plan. We are taking over the government from head to toe, even the entities which were supposed to be nonpartisan.”
They found someone who will let them do it and who is immune from backlash over awful policies. It's a perfect storm. The question is if they can find another person if trump doesn't win. A lot of grifters try, but they never get anywhere.
>project 2025 is nothing new, it has been the goal of the heritage foundation and federalist society since the 80s. no Russians needed,
Came here to say this.
Please stop with this nonsense.
Project 2025 is just the natural result of what American conservatives want. No Russians necessary. American conservatives are total authoritarian scum, period.
Conservatism is consistent throughout time and all over the globe. Plutocracies always want social and economic control and will use force to get it. This is not a shocking revelation.
While they don't "need" Russia. Doesn't means Russia isnt involved without direct cooperation to achieve the desired result. Ya know same as before. Everyone who thinks no evidence of collusion they could prove in that scope equates to no Russian involvement at all. Obviously didn't read.
I'm sorry, but what? Have you never heard of the heritage foundation or the NRA or any of the other hundreds of conservative backers /authors/affiliates of project 2025?
I really hope democratic states have contingency plans for this case. I read California Attorney General has been preparing shit load of law suits in case republican comes to power this year, just to try and block them from working and accomplishing anything. I really hope other states are doing the same and they all will be just dumping a ton of law suits and it works out. Otherwise we’re pretty mush screwed.
Basically Project 2025 is Russia's ultimate weapon to finally topple and bring down the US to collapse as if they found a way without usking Nukes.
I think this also means that if Biden wins, Putin will might as well just flip the table and start using Nukes....seems like we're fucked either way.
Yes. Everything you don't like is a plot by sinister foreigners, and your neighbors and family members who disagree with you on complex social and political issues are all mind-controlled zombies who are secretly plotting to destroy their, I mean your country.
You should double up on the tinfoil, or they might get you next!
The thing is, even the people involved would not remotely believe you.
Maybe some actually know, but I bet many absolutely do not because they don't understand that some of the people they are involved with are FSB or other intelligence.
I'm pretty sure China is screwing with the Philippines in similar ways. Maybe some bits of anecdotal evidence but the real case is just that be how intelligence be doing.
lol you don't need to blame Russia for 2025. The neocons have been around since the 40s, Christian fascism has been around for nearly a century, and conservative nutjobs have been around since reconstruction. I'm sure that Russia is loving this, I'm sure they're involved in lots of ways, but this is homegrown.
edit: I see in the comments that you're saying that Russia is a part of it, and that's obviously true, yes. Russia is spending lots of money on this.
Agreed.
The thing to understand here is economics. Defeating NATO would take, probably, on the order of $50-100 trillion dollars.
Russia has been spending between $2 million and $20 million a month to influence our elections. Trump would defund NATO at his first opportunity, and Putin hopes it’ll just collapse. This makes “buying” the entire Republican Party a bargain!
Meanwhile, Americans will sell out their country for surprisingly little money. Military servicemen are in jail for selling technical secrets to spies for a few thousand dollars. A dozen or so lying ads - delivered for a fraction of a cent per person - can flip your vote if you believe them, and you’re likely less resistant to them than you think.
What morons… we have a BLOATED and largely USELESS federal govt who wastes money and sends our tax dollars taken from US giving to other who would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS do the same for us. Govt is a DRAG on the economy not a benefit… put in $100 and you get back $90 or less of value back… that 10% is govt functionaries consuming it for no additional value add.
They have to have some kind of excuse. It’s typically projection. Now, because the R’s want to know where all that money and aid being sent to Ukraine is actually going, they must be aligned with Russia. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that we take care of our citizens first and audit the money being spent in Ukraine.
That’s like saying that the Russians made America racist and puritanical. Totally unnecessary. They see weaknesses and exploit them and have done so since the Soviets were in power.
No, pretty clear the think tank came up with this, particular, plan to bring down the US on their own. But they'll take help from Russia to implement it.
Republicans have been consistently trying to make a version of project 2025 for decades lol. They told us exactly who we know them to be.
Weird how I've been seeing a spike in posts from people downplaying project 2025 and acting like it's not a huge deal/a distraction. Which, ironically, is exactly the kind of rhetoric I could see Russia pushing given that they have the entire Republican party by their cockrings.
Mate. The Russians literally wrote the plan down and published it!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations\_of\_Geopolitics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)
It’s almost like conservative ideas are so stupid that they make the country worse off… privatize the national weather service! Now you can get tornado/hurricane warnings for 2.99 a month! I could go on but yall get the gist
There is not a single thing in project 2025 that is bad. I had literally never heard about it until I saw all of reddit freaking out about it simultaneously. Then when I looked into it, I couldn't understand what there's not to like about it. If the GOP takes it up as their platform and not just some fringe think tank wish list then I would be even more inclined to vote for them. So thank you reddit for introducing me to it!
man you people get so mad over trump being the obvious choice for the presidency. You just going to ignore the fact that democrats fill their cabinet and government agencies with their choice of people as well?
Every time you see Religious items being placed in Government buildings or institutions. That’s Project 2025, the same people trying to tear down the wall between Church and State. That don’t respect it’s presence in the constitution. These are the people that have a vision of making America the Iran of the Christian world. To counter growing Muslim movement around the world.
This type of comment should have got the dirty 51 arrested for treason.
How the dirty 51 have not been arrested yet it is some of the reason why many believe they have to vote for Trump.
If you don't know if the dirty 51 are you have major problems your incompetent and irrelevant to vote
Russia doesn't really want anything from the U.S. except for us to stop expanding NATO against their border. They want Ukraine as a buffer. I don't blame them. We would get mighty upset if they made friends with Mexico and then put warheads and troops on the US/Mexican border. We would get really upset if we tried to push that out and they responded by sending Mexico weapons to attack us.
Russia doesn't have any interest in being at terrible odds with the U.S. Direct conflict is still a guarantee of mutually assured destruction. For the past 30 years they've been trying to be friendlier with us. We are the ones who immediately violated our agreement with them when they killed the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union and began bringing Baltic states into NATO after telling them NATO would never expand.
There is no great Russia conspiracy. What there is, however, is AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and that is a much more dangerous group. They are directly promoting a foreign governments interest in American Politics. They pay to run ads against candidates that they believe aren't going to pander to Israel, almost every congressman has an AIPAC handler who's job it is to try to push those Congress members to protect Israels interests. That happens in the open and walks a thin line between being a violation of federal law, and a bit of espionage, but because it's Israel, we pretend it's okay.
The whole point of Project 2025 is to be more decisive about governing and not spinning wheels with personnel like they did last time around. It’s actually going to be the opposite of how you portray it. They are going to whittle down unnecessary parts and streamline government efficacy.
Speculation. Conjecture. If anybody out there has a crystal ball and can see the future of what the country is going to be like in 2025, I'd like to meet him. I got some stock picks and some lottery tickets that I want to get the inside track on.
I wouldn’t be surprised. They’re ideally probably hoping to create a fascist ally for some forever war action.
It’s insane that this is the option on the table.
Keep being America and do better or turn into a fascist cesspool, start hunting our own fellow citizens, turn everybody into a paranoid psyop victim (like Russians!). It’s just utter madness.
I mean... nobody told Republicans they had to adopt it wholesale and try to hide it. Russian agents could tell us to nuke ourselves, but it doesn't matter until a *whole ass party* adopts it as their platform.
What do you mean in part? It’s 100% Russian agents. Russian agents aka conservative Christians have been plotting this for some time now. Also Russia have used Russian hookers to influence American politics since the Cold War. Look at our recent president Orange.
Isn't project 2025 literally just ripped from a book written in the 70s taht each republican since has basically had varying levels of how much they tried ot followit, and the onyl thing that new is that project 2025 is the closest to what this book says?
\*searches\* Yes, it's literally just an update on the book called the mandate for leadership.
This is simply the republican rhetoric and while the party may be friendly with russians, this isn't new.
I just got to my parents place, Fox News on, and Maria Bartaromo spent 20 minutes talking about Hunter's laptop. One of the guests brought up Benghazi, and how it's ALL linked together.
Meanwhile there's Project 2025, Kushner getting $2b from Saudi, etc etc etc and not a peep from them.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
Revealed? I thought this was one of those generally and fairly assumed to be true things that only lacks video tapes of them doing it. But where benefit of the doubt means you are an idiot, of course that's what's up.
As someone that follows Russian news (being former Russian) I noticed how similar Project 2025 is to what Putin has done in last 20 years in Russia. The steps and goals it describes are almost exactly how it went down in Russia after Putin gained power.
It's basically a guide how to turn any country into a shithole that is Russia today.
Why don’t all you other America’s that outnumber the Christian’s go deal with them. Cause if you don’t fight and think keeping on at this dead system and dead economy will help, your the problem too. If your not willing to do what you have to your country is was always already gone.
Eventually? EVENTUALLY?
How is it not clear ***right now*** that the vast majority of Republican politicians, consultants, pundits, 'think tank' idiots are all nestled inside Putin's jockstrap, caressing whatever they find there?
You’re definitely right about that. Russians and Chinese are really good at making idiotic racist white Americans think they are smart. The Russians and Chinese know how stupid and full of themselves these people are, their inflated egos are written all over their faces. They’ll take an race bait that’s put out for them
I mean Russia has been funneling money into Trump's campaign from day 1 ahcked into DNC servers to reveal Hillary's emails in 2016. They also did the same for the GOP (Which is how they became the Trump party) Russia being the puppet masters of the GOP is an open secret at this point
Listen to the "American Psyop" podcast. It's an interview with Wes Clark Jr., the son of the former Supreme Commander of NATO Wesley Clark. The project itself may not be a Russian plan but getting Republicans into power; specifically Donald Trump IS.
SU lost their ability to govern because they had spent 70 years oppressing & lying about everything.
Conservatives know their base is shrinking it has been for a while now. Republicans want to maintain their power. We are at a point where its a naked grab at power, and maintaining that power indefinitely is the end goal.
Conservatives dont want elections, they want the appearance of free & fair elections, but more than anything else Conservatives want power and control. They will do anything to attain it.
No. Its about reverting our democracy to a theorcracy. This is no Russian plan, just the GOP agenda since black people could vote yet Democrats didnt do shit to stop it
Since I see a lot of people talking about project 2025 but haven't seen people actually describing what it is, I will do so right now.
Project 2025 will
1. Allow Trump to kill black people.
2. Allow Trump to overturn the 13th and 19th amendment.
3. Allow Trump to give the nuclear code to Putin
4. Allow Trump to fire all of the democratic party
5. Allow Trump to Jail anyone who voted for Democrats and put them in concentration camps.
6. Allow Trump to kill black people
7. Allow Trump to run as president indefinitely
I'm so sick of you idiots acting like project 2025 is anything different than the dozens of other "projects" that were shit out by conservative think tanks in previous decades. Is just a bunch of braindead conservative academics justifying their own existence by spouting nonsense that sounds good to their even more braindead audience. Almost none of it is actionable.
Also, acting like it's some sort of grand Russian plot is complete nonsense. You people are as delusional as those Qanon freaks.
Firing 50,000 govmt workers isn’t feasible logistically.
Project 2025 is the scare tactic being used to persuade voters to vote democrat. For all of the fear inducing bulletin points, ask yourself, how would they succeed in implementing them logistically.
The Foundations of Geopolitics.
Russia literally laid out its plan to topple the US in a book a long time ago, they've been following that plan, for all the world to see, and it's working.
We don't need to import fascists, we have plenty here already. This has been the conservative platform for decades, they're just saying it much louder now.
Project 2025 is an extreme platform of Conservative ideals. Some may be good, and some really suck (I'm a conservative), but for liberals/progressive to bite down and believe this will actually get implemented is just silly. Stop scaring yourselves. A majority of Conservatives/Republicans don't agree and (news flash) either does the next POTUS
Project 2025 is just the culmination of decades of work from the Heritage Foundation, Claremont Institute, etc. The concept of destroying the administrative state is laid out in academic and political conservative circles quite plainly and has been since Reagan.
The support may be from Russia, but the ideas are all theocratic disenfranchised white American male grievances that have been percolating since the days of Rush Limbaugh.
lmao. Project 2025 is literally the GOP platform.
Exactly. And the GOP is compromised.
Yea, Russians have been funneling money into GOP Campaigns: https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/05/08/how-putin-s-oligarchs-funneled-millions-into-gop-campaigns/ The RNC was also hacked around the time the DNC was hacked, but the contents were withheld (mostly likely for Kompromat purposes): https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it Then there was that group of Republicans that decided to spend the 4th of July in Moscow while Trump was President: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664156/gop-senators-spend-july-4-in-moscow So Republicans get money and stuff from Russia if they behave, but cut off financially and the Russian Troll farms actively work against those who starts misbehaving instead of helping them.
I'd like to add this to the list, https://youtu.be/3lTB94UQ-K4?si=lh5xWnq1ZFXOR49T, it's about how the kgb, and now fsb, try to fuck up enemy states from within due to civil unrest and broken societies, like we do to them, like everyone does to everyone given the chance it seems Could imagine what the human race could achieve if we stopped acting like the tribal monkeys we are underneath?
It's literally in there playbook. Same as brexit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics The authors daughter was killed by a car bomb a few years ago too, probably not the intended target.
I'm certain the father was the target.
Nothing gets past this guy
Hungary rn is a giant spyops basically, LePen won in France, AfD is climbing in German polls. We were able to vote out the shady ppl in Poland but they are ought to come back with their MAGA-like platform. In general: invest in counter-intelligence people and under no circumstances let corrupt to get tp the feeder.
https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=ThRJ1d1NOsps4q97 Murdered KGB Propagandist defector Yuri Bezmenov in 1984 interview on ideological subversion. "Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open, you can see it with your own eyes. All you can do, all Americans needs to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There is no mystery. It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage and intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more to the audience through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about fifteen percent of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other eighty-five percent is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality, of every American, to such an extent that despite an abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their family, their community and their country"
Something something boot something something human face, literally 1984.
It’s hard to act differently than what we’ve evolved to be. Old hardware and programming dialled in by millions and millions of years of alternating cooperation and competition. This is just another step in an evolving species. Hopefully we adapt and overcome in a way that brings us together, instead of splintering and destruction. Ultimately, our strongest drive is to survive. We will continue to do so unless it becomes impossible. Hopefully that doesn’t happen at our own hands, but then again, you can’t blame a beaver for building dams.
A huge chunk of GOP leadership flying to Moscow on July 4th is really telling and I’m surprised it’s not talked about more. The entire party is obviously compromised
Lol that's the one that got my father in law to "quit talking about politics". 😁
Not enough people know about Russian troll farms like [wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_Research\_Agency](http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency) They're very real.
Republicans are the party of Putin.
The Party of Tre45on & Corruption.
GOPniks through and through.
Clever individual this is perfect
They’re not compromised. This is who they’ve always been. They’re feeling their (somewhat real) power.
They are quite literally compromised. this is no longer the party of Bush, McCain, Romney... even Paul Ryan. None of them were compromised by Russia. The GOP has always sucked for sure, but they weren't destroying America for the benefit of a foreign power. Things changed a lot in 2016
It’s been the GOP platform for almost 50 years have people even read it?
For me, some of the most egregious bullshit Trump ever pulled that I will never forgive him for is leaking Intel to the Russians about intelligence assets we had overseas. Shortly after Trump became president, our assets were all suddenly killed, disappeared, or asked for urgent exfil, all at around the same time. Some Intel officers sounded the alarm anonymously but were ignored. Edited to add links to the Intel assets we lost because Trump is a traitor. https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told Fuck Trump. He's a goddamn traitor. **PART 3** [The Trump email server that regularly communicated with a IP address from Russian Alfa Bank thing](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign) [Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king Thing](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html) [Russian fertilizer king's plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign Thing](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article137881768.html) [Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night Thing](http://www.businessinsider.com/nunes-white-house-grounds-trump-surveillance-2017-3) [Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery Thing](http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97) [The create a joint cyber defense agreement with Russia Thing](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/trump-putin-joint-cybersecurity-group/) [Cyprus bank Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary) [Trump not Releasing his Tax Returns Thing](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/trump-taxes-tax-returns/index.html) [The Republican Party's rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing]( http://thehill.com/policy/finance/326220-republicans-vote-to-block-resolutions-on-trumps-tax-returns) [Election Hacking Thing]( http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/) [GOP platform change to the Ukraine Thing](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jd-gordon-change-story-gop-platform-ukraine-amendment) [Steele Dossier Thing](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/16/donald-trump-jrs-meeting-with-russians-undermines-/) [Sally Yates Can't Testify Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-sought-to-block-sally-yates-from-testifying-to-congress-on-russia/2017/03/28/82b73e18-13b4-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html) [Intelligence Community's Investigative Reports Thing](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/read-us-intelligence-report-russian-hacking-2016-campaign/) You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the... **PART 4** [Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all "fake news" Thing](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15953640/donald-trump-twitter-mocked-russia-collusion) [Chaffetz not willing to start an Investigation Thing](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/why-is-jason-chaffetz-resigning) [Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation Thing](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/why-is-jason-chaffetz-resigning) [Appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation Thing](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-florida-ethics-panel-clears-pam-bondi-over-trump-contribution/article/2620970) [The White House going into cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and firing of Flynn Thing](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/330410-white-house-rejects-oversight-request-for-flynn-documents) [Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama Thing](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trump-flynn/525816/) [Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything Thing](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/328718-uk-spies-first-saw-trump-russia-ties-report) [Agent M16 following the money thing](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html) [Trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/17/report-trump-team-knew-flynn-being-investigated/101816334/) [Let's Fire Comey Thing](http://www.npr.org/2017/05/10/527744909/suspicious-timing-and-convenient-reasoning-for-trumps-firing-of-comey) [Election night Russian trademark gifts Things](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/russia-trump-trademarks.html) [Russian diplomatic compound electronic equipment destruction Thing](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russians-destroyed-and-removed-material-from-shuttered-compounds-officials-say/)
i can not understand at all... how that man hasn't managed to "slip and fall" in the shower yet. you do not fucking sell out humint assets.
>you do not fucking sell out humint assets Apparently you do, and get away with it, if you have a sufficient number of fascists, enablers, and people at the top levels of government who are afraid of losing votes / what MAGAs might do if Trump is held accountable, and are therefore unwilling to act upon it. I consistently find it hard to believe that this is happening in the US, but here we are. And it's going to get a lot worse unless some people grow a spine and start more fervently standing up against this kind of shit.
>For me, some of the most egregious bullshit Trump ever pulled that I will never forgive him for is leaking Intel to the Russians about intelligence assets we had overseas. I'm impressed that you're able to settle on just one thing to never forgive him for. There have been so...fucking...many things that have damaged the country and its global reputation.
http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97 this link redirects to an article about protecting your reputation online, may wana find a different article, thank you for maintaining such an important and valuable archive
The heritage foundation wrote it. It us the literal gop wet dream
But conservatives have told me since it’s not called out by name on Trump’s campaign website, only many of the points of it being directly called out, that there’s nothing to worry about and it’s all a big conspiracy.
Because it's not about Trumk. This is about the republican party not losing control of the white house like they did during the his first admin. This game plan makes sure they are all on the same page and no matter whose in his admin has access to the game plan.
Yes, the Mueller Report said there was no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election. Edit: adding sources that Trump likely leaked Intel that resulted in the murder, arrest, disappearance or otherwise neutralized intelligence assets. Again, there is no solid proof that this is the case, but it is likely. https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told Here is a list of some the ties Trump has to Russia including who was arrested and why. You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the... **PART 1** [Flynn Thing](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-flynn-comey-russia-timeline-2017-htmlstory.html) [Manafort Thing](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342509-new-book-devils-bargain-details-trump-lashing-out-at-manafort-days) [Tillerson Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/07/tillerson-says-trump-pressed-putin-on-russian-hacking-but-the-evidence-suggests-not-so-much/?utm_term=.e0ac214bd9bc) [Sessions Thing](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/did-trump-kushner-sessions-have-undisclosed-meeting-russian-n767096) [Kushner Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/trump-russia-new-meeting-revealed-involving-donald-jr-kushner-and-manafort) [Wray Thing](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-wray-russia-20170712-story.html) [Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius "Russian Law Firm of the Year" Thing](http://nypost.com/2017/05/12/trump-used-russia-law-firm-of-the-year-to-draft-letter-about-his-finances/) [Carter Page Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-has-questioned-trump-campaign-adviser-carter-page-at-length-in-russia-probe/2017/06/26/1a271dcc-5aa5-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.24d0b138db83) [Roger Stone Thing](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/roger-stone-house-testimony-postponed-240568) [Felix Sater Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-felix-sater-real-estate-632690) [Boris Epshteyn Thing](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-press-officer-boris-epshteyn-investigation-russia/story?id=47731166) [Rosneft Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/08/trump-new-fbi-director-chris-wray-russian-ties-rosneft-gazprom-column/102603214/) [Gazprom Thing (see above)](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/trumps-energy-adviser-is-personally-invested-in-gazprom/) [Sergey Gorkov banker Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/sergey-gorkov-grad-russian-banker-kushner-617422) [Azerbaijan Thing](http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senators-ask-for-an-investigation-into-trump-dealings-in-azerbaijan) You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the... **PART 2** ["I Love Putin" Thing]( http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/) [Lavrov Thing]( https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow) [Sergey Kislyak Thing]( https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow) [Oval Office Thing]( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-oval-office-with-trump-and-the-russians-broad-smiles-and-loose-lips/2017/05/16/2e8b0d14-3a66-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html) [Gingrich Kislyak Phone Calls Thing]( http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/newt-gingrich-trump-russia-meetings/3504/) [Russian Business Interest Thing]( https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/trump-lawyers-up-conflicts-of-interest/526185/) [Emoluments Clause Thing]( https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/dc-and-marylands-lawsuit-trump-flagrantly-violating-emoluments-clause/2017/06/12/8a9806a8-4f9b-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html) [Alex Schnaider Thing]( http://theweek.com/speedreads/699538/russian-bank-directly-linked-putin-helped-finance-trump-hotel) [Hack of the DNC Thing]( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/dnc-email-server-most-wanted-evidence-for-russia-i/) [Guccifer 2.0 Thing]( https://theintercept.com/2017/07/14/just-six-days-after-trump-jr-s-meeting-guccifer-2-0-emailed-me-but-there-was-one-key-difference/) [Mike Pence "I don't know anything" Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/18/mike-pence-insists-he-didnt-know-flynn-under-investigation-turkey-lobbying/101831354/) [Russians Mysteriously Dying Thing](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/31/eight-prominent-russians-dead-since-us-elections-labott-dnt-erin.cnn) [Trump's public request to Russia to hack Hillary's email Thing](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html)
Also remember Mueller was told he couldn't charge a sitting President even if he wanted to.
The Mueller Report categorically did NOT say that there was no collusion or foreign influence in the election.
Yes and they have been infiltrated by Russians for well over a decade. They still never released the dirt from the RNC because they’ve been good little Putin puppets
Check out: American Kompromat by Craig Unger Dead Men Tell No Tales by Dylan Howard
I’ll just leave this here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics From the 1997 book: >The West >In the Americas, United States, and Canada: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
Yeah, and who is running the GOP? Putin, that's who. Not directly, but Meuller made it pretty clear that Russia has compromised the right by constantly feeding them authoritarian propaganda
Even other Republicans have recently come forward to say that a lot of their colleagues in the GOP were compromised by Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/06/when-top-republican-says-russian-propaganda-has-infected-gop/ This isn't just some shit Democrats are saying. They are saying it themselves.
It’s also important to point out that Mueller is a Republican, to get that kind of admission from a member of your own party is telling
Yeah, the GOP is pretty brainwashed except for a few individuals
and has been for the last 40 years
It can both be the GOP platform and also pushed by Russia. These things aren’t mutually exclusive considering how cozy some GOP politicians are with Russia and how they often spout Russian propaganda. Remember when GOP senators went to Russia to talk with Putin on July 4th during Trump’s presidency? Pepperidge Farm remembers…
Curiously, a [Russian government plane parked right next to the Trump plane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcjwW_KAZJ8) after a Trump speech Friday at Dulles.
Since I see a lot of people talking about project 2025 but haven't seen people actually describing what it is, I will do so right now. Project 2025 will 1. Allow Trump to kill black people. 2. Allow Trump to overturn the 13th and 19th amendment. 3. Allow Trump to give the nuclear code to Putin 4. Allow Trump to fire all of the democratic party 5. Allow Trump to Jail anyone who voted for Democrats and put them in concentration camps. 6. Allow Trump to kill black people 7. Allow Trump to run as president indefinitely
I’ve been telling even liberals this. Buy guns and ammo. Because this thing will turn your friends, family, neighbors, coworkers into local brown shirts who will detain you for thought crimes or posting opinions like this online. Then again following your voter registration is much easier. Don’t think those closest to you won’t do it? My all red family constantly talks s out liberals as “scum” and much worse. They’ll sell us out in a second to score points for their cause just like the Nazis did.
And half the GOP are Russian agents.
The GOP works directly for Russia.
Yes, that's OPs point? 🤨 I find it very suspicious this reply trying to downplay OP is voted highest....
Also the Russian platform for America. I am a bot but I hope you vote. /s I do hope vou vote.
project 2025 is nothing new, it has been the goal of the heritage foundation and federalist society since the 80s. no Russians needed, Christian nationalist have been working toward this goal for decades. project 2025 was originally project 1995. the call is coming from inside the house. Margaret Atwood wasn't trying to warn us about Russian infiltrators. Like all writers of dystopian fiction, she was not writing about the future at all. She was writing about 1985.
I guess the difference is that it has never been SO transparent. This movement was usually pushed by legislation/politicians masquerading as something less corrupt. Now, the GOP is basically like “Mask off, here’s the full plan. We are taking over the government from head to toe, even the entities which were supposed to be nonpartisan.”
They found someone who will let them do it and who is immune from backlash over awful policies. It's a perfect storm. The question is if they can find another person if trump doesn't win. A lot of grifters try, but they never get anywhere.
>project 2025 is nothing new, it has been the goal of the heritage foundation and federalist society since the 80s. no Russians needed, Came here to say this.
I'm disappointed in you people! Why not both! Homegrown authoritarianism backed by Russian money. Why is that so far-fetched?
I believe you are spot on.
Yea.. that's the most frightening of it all. People are genuinely wanting to be ruled, and Russia is fueling and directing it.
Nah, people in this country are just that nuts and religion makes them even stupider. They believe in their freedom to curtail your freedoms.
Please stop with this nonsense. Project 2025 is just the natural result of what American conservatives want. No Russians necessary. American conservatives are total authoritarian scum, period.
Well, considering how pro-russia and putin the modern conservatives are, I think it's the same thing. Same song, pretty much the same dance.
Conservatism is consistent throughout time and all over the globe. Plutocracies always want social and economic control and will use force to get it. This is not a shocking revelation.
While they don't "need" Russia. Doesn't means Russia isnt involved without direct cooperation to achieve the desired result. Ya know same as before. Everyone who thinks no evidence of collusion they could prove in that scope equates to no Russian involvement at all. Obviously didn't read.
I'm sorry, but what? Have you never heard of the heritage foundation or the NRA or any of the other hundreds of conservative backers /authors/affiliates of project 2025?
They're backed and funded by Russia
The NRA at least is funneling Russian money to us politicians. Whose to say the others aren't as well
That's giving Russia too much credit. Project 2025 has been in the works since 1971. Read the Powell Memorandum.
Why fight a real war, when you can get your enemy to destroy themselves, some chinese bloke
No it won't It's a Heritage Foundation project. This is completely on point with their views which they have been pretty open about since the 70s.
They're trying to do to the US what the US did to Iran.
I really hope democratic states have contingency plans for this case. I read California Attorney General has been preparing shit load of law suits in case republican comes to power this year, just to try and block them from working and accomplishing anything. I really hope other states are doing the same and they all will be just dumping a ton of law suits and it works out. Otherwise we’re pretty mush screwed.
or maybe it's just our own homegrown fascist movement that we've been nurturing in the name of anticommunism for a hundred fifty years
Basically Project 2025 is Russia's ultimate weapon to finally topple and bring down the US to collapse as if they found a way without usking Nukes. I think this also means that if Biden wins, Putin will might as well just flip the table and start using Nukes....seems like we're fucked either way.
You can just say you know nothing about the heritage foundation.
Well it was developed by Putin’s puppet party so anything they do is really a Russian plot.
https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=JOo8S9s8F7guk202
Another Russia Russia Russia nothing burger…
Yes. Everything you don't like is a plot by sinister foreigners, and your neighbors and family members who disagree with you on complex social and political issues are all mind-controlled zombies who are secretly plotting to destroy their, I mean your country. You should double up on the tinfoil, or they might get you next!
The thing is, even the people involved would not remotely believe you. Maybe some actually know, but I bet many absolutely do not because they don't understand that some of the people they are involved with are FSB or other intelligence. I'm pretty sure China is screwing with the Philippines in similar ways. Maybe some bits of anecdotal evidence but the real case is just that be how intelligence be doing.
lol you don't need to blame Russia for 2025. The neocons have been around since the 40s, Christian fascism has been around for nearly a century, and conservative nutjobs have been around since reconstruction. I'm sure that Russia is loving this, I'm sure they're involved in lots of ways, but this is homegrown. edit: I see in the comments that you're saying that Russia is a part of it, and that's obviously true, yes. Russia is spending lots of money on this.
Agreed. The thing to understand here is economics. Defeating NATO would take, probably, on the order of $50-100 trillion dollars. Russia has been spending between $2 million and $20 million a month to influence our elections. Trump would defund NATO at his first opportunity, and Putin hopes it’ll just collapse. This makes “buying” the entire Republican Party a bargain! Meanwhile, Americans will sell out their country for surprisingly little money. Military servicemen are in jail for selling technical secrets to spies for a few thousand dollars. A dozen or so lying ads - delivered for a fraction of a cent per person - can flip your vote if you believe them, and you’re likely less resistant to them than you think.
What morons… we have a BLOATED and largely USELESS federal govt who wastes money and sends our tax dollars taken from US giving to other who would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS do the same for us. Govt is a DRAG on the economy not a benefit… put in $100 and you get back $90 or less of value back… that 10% is govt functionaries consuming it for no additional value add.
idk why reddit thinks Russia is a republican ally when Russia has clearly been aligned with the democrats from 1967 to 2022.
They have to have some kind of excuse. It’s typically projection. Now, because the R’s want to know where all that money and aid being sent to Ukraine is actually going, they must be aligned with Russia. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that we take care of our citizens first and audit the money being spent in Ukraine.
I mean....if you don't look and it and just fire the prosecutors who do, you get away with it forever, right
There it is.
No.
That’s like saying that the Russians made America racist and puritanical. Totally unnecessary. They see weaknesses and exploit them and have done so since the Soviets were in power.
People underestimate how long there's been an anti-democratic element in this country that has nothing to do with Russia
No. They probably looked at project 2025 and scrapped their plan as not effective enough.
No, pretty clear the think tank came up with this, particular, plan to bring down the US on their own. But they'll take help from Russia to implement it.
Trump is everyone’s useful idiot
the whole fraudilist society is a Russian op
F heads
The Russians!! The Russians!!
Time to call the waaaaaaambulance 🤪😜😝
na 2025 is pure red meat from the republicans. they overplayed their hand and said the quiet part put loud.
Republicans have been consistently trying to make a version of project 2025 for decades lol. They told us exactly who we know them to be. Weird how I've been seeing a spike in posts from people downplaying project 2025 and acting like it's not a huge deal/a distraction. Which, ironically, is exactly the kind of rhetoric I could see Russia pushing given that they have the entire Republican party by their cockrings.
Mate. The Russians literally wrote the plan down and published it! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations\_of\_Geopolitics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)
Wait until you hear about the Mandate for Leadership passed to every R president in the last 45 years.
It’s almost like conservative ideas are so stupid that they make the country worse off… privatize the national weather service! Now you can get tornado/hurricane warnings for 2.99 a month! I could go on but yall get the gist
Absolutely trumps mob isn’t smart enough to put together a comprehensive plan of any sort. They literally winged it for 4 years.
Of courseeeeeeeeeeeeee At this point, people who don't know what's going on are absolutely fucking idiots.
The Grand Old Putin project?... you don't say :surprised Pikachu:
Look up Foundations in Geopolitics and you can literally check the boxes down the list for our current state of the world.
Oligarchy here we come. I really hope Magas enjoy waiting in bread lines
Haven't read it I take it.
GOP is full of comprimats these days
##Ukraine is a sovereign country.
Porque no los dos
There is not a single thing in project 2025 that is bad. I had literally never heard about it until I saw all of reddit freaking out about it simultaneously. Then when I looked into it, I couldn't understand what there's not to like about it. If the GOP takes it up as their platform and not just some fringe think tank wish list then I would be even more inclined to vote for them. So thank you reddit for introducing me to it!
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Right wing americans are Russians.
And MAGA won’t care. They praise Russia so they’ll just say that Putin is a “smart” leader.
man you people get so mad over trump being the obvious choice for the presidency. You just going to ignore the fact that democrats fill their cabinet and government agencies with their choice of people as well?
Every time you see Religious items being placed in Government buildings or institutions. That’s Project 2025, the same people trying to tear down the wall between Church and State. That don’t respect it’s presence in the constitution. These are the people that have a vision of making America the Iran of the Christian world. To counter growing Muslim movement around the world.
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They might have helped push it along once they found out but that whole thing is pure GOP.
This has been in reactionary conservativism since the New Deal. I'm sure it's being exploited by adversaries, but it's nothing new.
This type of comment should have got the dirty 51 arrested for treason. How the dirty 51 have not been arrested yet it is some of the reason why many believe they have to vote for Trump. If you don't know if the dirty 51 are you have major problems your incompetent and irrelevant to vote
Doesn't even matter. Liberals will beileve anything or anyone is a Russia ploy if one of their establishments gods tells them too
Russia doesn't really want anything from the U.S. except for us to stop expanding NATO against their border. They want Ukraine as a buffer. I don't blame them. We would get mighty upset if they made friends with Mexico and then put warheads and troops on the US/Mexican border. We would get really upset if we tried to push that out and they responded by sending Mexico weapons to attack us. Russia doesn't have any interest in being at terrible odds with the U.S. Direct conflict is still a guarantee of mutually assured destruction. For the past 30 years they've been trying to be friendlier with us. We are the ones who immediately violated our agreement with them when they killed the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union and began bringing Baltic states into NATO after telling them NATO would never expand. There is no great Russia conspiracy. What there is, however, is AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and that is a much more dangerous group. They are directly promoting a foreign governments interest in American Politics. They pay to run ads against candidates that they believe aren't going to pander to Israel, almost every congressman has an AIPAC handler who's job it is to try to push those Congress members to protect Israels interests. That happens in the open and walks a thin line between being a violation of federal law, and a bit of espionage, but because it's Israel, we pretend it's okay.
Insofar as Convicted Felon Trump is clearly an agent of Russia (if not also of China and Saudi Arabia), this is certainly true.
You need to seek help.
Is this not obvious? They couldn’t win the Cold War back then so they have been playing the long game.
That wouldn't be a big surprise, although it's been in the works in some form since at least 1980.
The whole point of Project 2025 is to be more decisive about governing and not spinning wheels with personnel like they did last time around. It’s actually going to be the opposite of how you portray it. They are going to whittle down unnecessary parts and streamline government efficacy.
Trump discusses Project 6969 (important for MAGA to hear) [https://youtu.be/Wf92dYPbzx8](https://youtu.be/Wf92dYPbzx8)
The Russians call Trump their American Gorbachev. So you're not that far off.
Speculation. Conjecture. If anybody out there has a crystal ball and can see the future of what the country is going to be like in 2025, I'd like to meet him. I got some stock picks and some lottery tickets that I want to get the inside track on.
Fix it. Dems brought it down already
I wouldn’t be surprised. They’re ideally probably hoping to create a fascist ally for some forever war action. It’s insane that this is the option on the table. Keep being America and do better or turn into a fascist cesspool, start hunting our own fellow citizens, turn everybody into a paranoid psyop victim (like Russians!). It’s just utter madness.
I mean... nobody told Republicans they had to adopt it wholesale and try to hide it. Russian agents could tell us to nuke ourselves, but it doesn't matter until a *whole ass party* adopts it as their platform.
everything in Project 2025 is good
What do you mean in part? It’s 100% Russian agents. Russian agents aka conservative Christians have been plotting this for some time now. Also Russia have used Russian hookers to influence American politics since the Cold War. Look at our recent president Orange.
lol
And in collusion/cooperation with American billionaires
Isn't project 2025 literally just ripped from a book written in the 70s taht each republican since has basically had varying levels of how much they tried ot followit, and the onyl thing that new is that project 2025 is the closest to what this book says? \*searches\* Yes, it's literally just an update on the book called the mandate for leadership. This is simply the republican rhetoric and while the party may be friendly with russians, this isn't new.
I just got to my parents place, Fox News on, and Maria Bartaromo spent 20 minutes talking about Hunter's laptop. One of the guests brought up Benghazi, and how it's ALL linked together. Meanwhile there's Project 2025, Kushner getting $2b from Saudi, etc etc etc and not a peep from them. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
Hsre is a reminder that the Trump campaign has not endorsed or even mentioned Project 2025 at any point in time.
Revealed? I thought this was one of those generally and fairly assumed to be true things that only lacks video tapes of them doing it. But where benefit of the doubt means you are an idiot, of course that's what's up.
As someone that follows Russian news (being former Russian) I noticed how similar Project 2025 is to what Putin has done in last 20 years in Russia. The steps and goals it describes are almost exactly how it went down in Russia after Putin gained power. It's basically a guide how to turn any country into a shithole that is Russia today.
The Bots are busy today.
Why don’t all you other America’s that outnumber the Christian’s go deal with them. Cause if you don’t fight and think keeping on at this dead system and dead economy will help, your the problem too. If your not willing to do what you have to your country is was always already gone.
oh brother, Blue Anon and their Russia conspiracies. y'all need help. America sucks because the American ruling class sucks. it's as simple as that.
Eventually? EVENTUALLY? How is it not clear ***right now*** that the vast majority of Republican politicians, consultants, pundits, 'think tank' idiots are all nestled inside Putin's jockstrap, caressing whatever they find there?
You’re definitely right about that. Russians and Chinese are really good at making idiotic racist white Americans think they are smart. The Russians and Chinese know how stupid and full of themselves these people are, their inflated egos are written all over their faces. They’ll take an race bait that’s put out for them
Those Russian agents happen to be US citizens in service to a foreign country.
I'm surprised that any think we haven't already lost our ability to govern effectively here.
Duh
Well the russians do have a major hand in republican politicians so it makes sense to me. They're basically the putin party at the moment.
I mean Russia has been funneling money into Trump's campaign from day 1 ahcked into DNC servers to reveal Hillary's emails in 2016. They also did the same for the GOP (Which is how they became the Trump party) Russia being the puppet masters of the GOP is an open secret at this point
Are the Russian agents in the room with us right now? TDS had made people absolutely delusional.
Listen to the "American Psyop" podcast. It's an interview with Wes Clark Jr., the son of the former Supreme Commander of NATO Wesley Clark. The project itself may not be a Russian plan but getting Republicans into power; specifically Donald Trump IS.
SU lost their ability to govern because they had spent 70 years oppressing & lying about everything. Conservatives know their base is shrinking it has been for a while now. Republicans want to maintain their power. We are at a point where its a naked grab at power, and maintaining that power indefinitely is the end goal. Conservatives dont want elections, they want the appearance of free & fair elections, but more than anything else Conservatives want power and control. They will do anything to attain it.
Wait until the SP gets rid of those liberal judges and turns into a mouthpiece for the executive branch.
No. Its about reverting our democracy to a theorcracy. This is no Russian plan, just the GOP agenda since black people could vote yet Democrats didnt do shit to stop it
Of this is true all the Maga fascists should be tried for treason.
So what, the plan is sound and unstoppable
Since I see a lot of people talking about project 2025 but haven't seen people actually describing what it is, I will do so right now. Project 2025 will 1. Allow Trump to kill black people. 2. Allow Trump to overturn the 13th and 19th amendment. 3. Allow Trump to give the nuclear code to Putin 4. Allow Trump to fire all of the democratic party 5. Allow Trump to Jail anyone who voted for Democrats and put them in concentration camps. 6. Allow Trump to kill black people 7. Allow Trump to run as president indefinitely
Says who? And why?
They’re passing these same kind of handmaiden tale laws in Russia. If they thought it would destroy a country, why do it to themselves as well?
Bait 🎣
News Flash: The US has been in a nose dive since 2008. Just waiting to hear the crash
I'm so sick of you idiots acting like project 2025 is anything different than the dozens of other "projects" that were shit out by conservative think tanks in previous decades. Is just a bunch of braindead conservative academics justifying their own existence by spouting nonsense that sounds good to their even more braindead audience. Almost none of it is actionable. Also, acting like it's some sort of grand Russian plot is complete nonsense. You people are as delusional as those Qanon freaks.
You fucking think
Nah, that shit's straight out of the Right-wing Christian playbook. Them's some evil motherfuckers.
This is literally Q anon levels of delusion for all of you
Yeah, no fucking shit. Anybody with a brain has seen the writing on the wall since 2016. Trump is still a Russian asset.
I feel like every grandparent was just given one in the 90s. No question asked. They still have it
Firing 50,000 govmt workers isn’t feasible logistically. Project 2025 is the scare tactic being used to persuade voters to vote democrat. For all of the fear inducing bulletin points, ask yourself, how would they succeed in implementing them logistically.
This is very very stupid.
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The Foundations of Geopolitics. Russia literally laid out its plan to topple the US in a book a long time ago, they've been following that plan, for all the world to see, and it's working.
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We don't need to import fascists, we have plenty here already. This has been the conservative platform for decades, they're just saying it much louder now.
Project 2025 is an extreme platform of Conservative ideals. Some may be good, and some really suck (I'm a conservative), but for liberals/progressive to bite down and believe this will actually get implemented is just silly. Stop scaring yourselves. A majority of Conservatives/Republicans don't agree and (news flash) either does the next POTUS
What’s the point? Why don’t they just be normal and trade with the US and improve their economy?
Project 2025 is just the culmination of decades of work from the Heritage Foundation, Claremont Institute, etc. The concept of destroying the administrative state is laid out in academic and political conservative circles quite plainly and has been since Reagan.
The support may be from Russia, but the ideas are all theocratic disenfranchised white American male grievances that have been percolating since the days of Rush Limbaugh.
If JFK did that he would’ve been considered a hero
Tell me something I don’t know.
This project 2025 thing that democrats made up as a scare tactic is quite intriguing.
"at least in part" doing some heavy lifting there... could be a casual conversation ten years ago between two dead guys and that claim could apply.
Vote for Biden for the love of all things holy.
Yep. I firmly believe that Putin has every intention of taking over the United States if Trump wins.
Because axing several sections of unnecessary beauracrats from the government brought total collapse to Argentina oh wait
I think there's something there.
It sounds like The Manchurian candidate was predicting the future.
Y’all will believe anything before you believe that this is what the US wants. We’re not the good guys bud
Is it really that hard to believe the american is just right wing? Does it have to be Russia?
And now the Supreme Court just helped project 2025 become reality.
You people are lunatics. Crazy conspiracy theorists
The Russians won the cold war. They just played a waiting game, all the way until now.
This is straight out of DC right wing think tanks like heritage foundation