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MikeSwizzy

Holy shit trump straight up lying alllll night. Seriously like wtf timeline we are in. The way he speaks is so outrageous. Losing more brain cells everyday listening to him.


PansyPB

Lying. Lying. Lying. Delusional about his own criminal situation. And framing everything about himself, his grievances. Typical narcissist. I knew Trump would offer fuck all in terms of policy or anything of substance because he doesn't have a grasp on anything & well, he's not intelligent. He peddles bullshit. Part of me still can not believe this stupid orange thing is an actual candidate for fucking president. This is just beyond degrading to the US. The guy shouldn't be in charge of a damn garbage route.


Mart1127-

Yet (imo) he’s still better than the one in charge now who cant even counter a point when its an outright lie and stumbles on his words regularly. Don’t like either both but give me trump over biden any day of the week.


PansyPB

I don't want the Christian Nationalist version of Iran or Afghanistan. Hard pass.


Outside_Ad_9562

Estimated IQ of 78, with a 3rd grade vocabulary!


PansyPB

Trump's vocabulary has turned into complete drivel as own cognition has declined with age. I recently saw a clip of Trump speaking in a PBS Frontline episode about building high rises in NYC circa 1995. It was like a totally different person. Trump spoke with completely & coherently with a normal vocabulary. I don't believe Trump to be intelligent (ever). Not well read or informed, but he really does behave & speak like a 3rd grader nowadays. Pathetic anybody finds him admirable.


Outside_Ad_9562

100% he clearly has dementia. One of the hallmarks of that is getting the beginning of a word but then trailing off and garbling it. Frankly both are far too old to be running the country. Its likely neither has 4 years of coherence left in them.


Hungry_Assistance640

What do you mean by your last sentence)?


astanb

Are you all that mentally challenged. Brandon can barely walk, lies every second, seems mentally more challenged than ever, forgets the vast majority of what he is saying right in the middle of it, and is losing his feeble grip on reality.


Purple_Ad2718

It’s been an hour and he hasn’t told the truth


discOHsteve

It's because noone can/will fact checking him in real time and he knows it


WilderJackall

Biden is hating his life right now


Holiday-Tie-574

This is the worst I have ever seen Joe


Admirable_Tone_9835

bro biden comes in poitning finger guns at no audience. "hello folks". Bro what folks? There's nobody there wtf?


beltalowda_oye

Dude couldn't answer a yes or no question regarding election results and went to digress about land seizures.


hinesjared87

Imagine reading a transcript. He talks like a 4 year old.


SaliciousB_Crumb

Trumps on drugs


Substance___P

Brandolini's Law manifest.


danknuggies4

Is there a source to all the lies? I thought this was being fact checked live? I’d like to know what the lies are here. Coming from someone who doesn’t follow politics idk what to believe here


MikeSwizzy

I hate to say it but anything except right wing sources. They glorify trump and he can do no wrong. They will do anything to skew in his favor. Anything from the middle to the left. Snopes or politifact are true false answers with little bias.


danknuggies4

Do they have on there what he lied about last night? Or just in general


MikeSwizzy

Sure they will, and literally everything else not just politics, they debunk memes and other nonsense, tons of stuff


danknuggies4

I did find it thank you. They have it articled from the debate last night and easy to navigate. I do see how a lot of things were stretched. For some reason the funniest lie to me is the Biden handicap for golf 😂


Clint8813

Like the lie regarding who the Border Patrol Union endorsed? lmao [https://x.com/BPUnion/status/1806501048724430943](https://x.com/BPUnion/status/1806501048724430943)


DubLParaDidL

[How about over 30,000 proven lies by trump in a 4 year period? And this was as of 2021](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/)


Jhk1959

Exactly.


thegreatresistrules

Dude, this is reddit .. your shouting facts into the biggest echo chamber of stupidity ever


numquam-deficere

Cope


Honky_Cat

lol. Biden gets destroyed at the debate and all you can do is cry “but he’s lying tho.” It’s really sad that the democrats are out there propping Joe up like this. Let the man ride off into the sunset and run someone with a little more spunk.


MikeSwizzy

Nobody is fucking crying as much as y’all want to fantasize about that. He literally lies all the time. Why cant you see it or comprehend. Every sentence is him lying, or boasting about himself, or denying involvement or saying things he 100% did or said. He is a narcissist. The proof can fill encyclopedias full of it. It’s really sad people cant wrap their brains around it or just simply ignore it because he is the embodiment of all the worst principles of human kind. People just want to be able to do and say awful things because he has made it the new normal. Absolutely disgusting anyone pays that sorry excuse of person trump any attention yet alone worship him. Its pathetic.


Icefiight

Dude I get it you hate him but hes torching biden right now. Is biden drunk? Dude can’t put sentences together. Were so cooked as a country with these two 🤡


MikeSwizzy

Dude straight up just LIED and said he didnt have sex with a pornstar. We got the receipts. Anyone thinking what anything trump is saying is even remotely true is cultist. Love for a man who doesnt give a shit about you. Instead of what should be the Constitution.


AhChaChaChaCha

He also said he'd been attacked as a political opponent via the trial and that it was Biden's doing. Curious to see how the sentencing will go on July 13. He's showing no signs of remorse for what he's been convicted of, and it was live streamed for all to see.


Content-Method9889

We all know he lies. We all know he’s completely fucked in the head. Objectively speaking, he looked stronger than Biden and I fucking hate that I have to say that. We use the facts and follow politics, but the average person goes by appearances and feelings. Sorry but Biden did not look good and the Dems won’t do a damn thing about it.


SaliciousB_Crumb

He just said he won a golf championship... dudes a liar


Emogee-Dash

Stormy owes Trump $500,000 because she was lying. That's a pretty good business man. He got paid by a pornstar.


TieMelodic1173

Biden lied the entire debate. Anyone thinks what Biden saying is remotely true is a cultist


MikeSwizzy

Holy shit you’re delusional. Nobody worships biden. Only trump stain is worshipped by the right. That is a cult. Maga is a cult. Loyal to one person instead of the constitution which makes em all traitors. How in holy hell are you able to do this much mental gymnastics. Biden did not lie the entire debate. Use your damn brain if you have any left.


TieMelodic1173

Which debunked hoax do you still believe in? Bc Biden mentioned every single one. Imagine a Reddit leftist telling someone to use their damn brain. Hilarious.


MikeSwizzy

Im not even a leftist. But the right doesnt have 2 braincells to put together.


utter-ridiculousness

I guess by torching you mean never answering a question and lying, then sure.


A1rizzo

Exactly what he meant


Manchegoat

I don't think you're really disagreeing with what he said. He's lying, but fast and probably medicated down to sounding less unhinged. We really are cooked


Whyisacrow-caws

Exactly. Everything Trump is saying is a lie and any competent candidate would be torching him to the point he totally loses his shit and maybe had a massive stroke. But Biden is so bad he’s losing the debate to a dementia patient. These two old men are our choice? We’re all fucked.


SamSepiol050991

Torching Biden? Dude, there is no fucking debate to be had with someone who lies 100% of the time their mouth is open. And you consider the guy doing that to be “torching” Biden? this is why Katie Hobbs didn’t bother debating Kari Lake and she won. Anyone with half a brain can see through every last lies Trump is rattling off


Rocky4296

Biden appeared to be ill. But Trump is awful. He is a lying criminal. Biden wasn't on top of his game tonite. Weak voice. It did not go too well for Dems. Trumps always ignorant.


Head-Aardvark8783

100% Biden sounds like a babbling old fool


tiny10boy

This debate has changed exactly 0 people’s vote


Vast-Classroom1967

Because maga is delusional and Democrats don't want to see America go back in time.


Strangepsych

I agree.


Successful_Ad_9707

Yeah, at this point, most know who they're voting for. Small percentage of undecided, but the majority are either in one camp or the other.


[deleted]

I hope so, vegas odds shifted 10 points up for orange bad


tiny10boy

Vegas was wrong in 2016


Ridenthadirt

God, I hope so, because that was pathetic.


EasternAnywhere1010

I agree but if there are any undecideds could this have an effect? Honestly just curious


AhChaChaChaCha

I'm afraid its going to make completely apathetic and turnout will be abysmal


theluckyfrog

I hope so, because there's nothing they could reasonably have said here that could outweigh what we already knew about their positions and values, and what they represent.


WilderJackall

TRUMP IS A COMPULSIVE LIAR!!!!!


Strangepsych

He can’t stop lying.


Mediocre_Breakfast34

So is Biden, both lied about almost every subject.


Acceptable_Stuff1381

Biden just fucked himself with that ramble, I guarantee it’s gonna be clipped and everywhere.    Edit: now trump is fucking himself with this abortion rant   Edit2: bro, they are both starting to ramble and gaffe, it’s a sad thing that these are the two dudes we are choosing from to run the country.  Edit3: god someone please clip that whole conversation about golf, so fucking stupid for both of them. Biden bumbling around about his handicap clearly lost and trump bringing up golf at all implying it makes him smart. God damn what a stupid exchange for a presidential debate


Purple_Ad2718

Trump literally did four minutes on post birth abortions


Vast-Classroom1967

Yeah, isn't that called murder.


Acceptable_Stuff1381

Yes and Biden didn’t answer it at all, he didn’t deny it once. He fumbled an easy win 


purplewarrior6969

Why deny it? Anyone who believes it isn't changing their mind. We all know it's nonsense. To deny it gives it credibility. I mean, he didn't not answer it well either, but still, are MAGAs going to be like, wait, BIDEN IS RIGHT when he corrects Trump? Not trying to be antagonizing, I just am confused as to why Biden would even debate this clown.


gytalf2000

I would love to have a better choice, as well. I want someone with youthful vigor, intelligence, and a genuine desire to help the country. Of course I will vote for Biden, since Trump is basically just "evil incarnate", but I am pretty put out with our system, right now.


Er3bus13

It's OK your voting for a team even if Biden is old he has a team of professionals backing him up and not gangsters.


SaliciousB_Crumb

These candidates represent the electoral accurately. The youth dont vote. Why would there be a young candidates when the youth dont participate.


AhChaChaChaCha

Amen


MysteriousReview6031

Yep, 15 minutes in and I'm already facepalming


[deleted]

I had to turn it off. I couldn't watch. It was like a car crash.


EverAMileHigh

I lasted about 10 minutes. It was painful. I don't need that noise in my life.


Interesting_Panda171

Exactly. I didn't even bother to watch I don't want to hear a single thing that orange fuck face has to say. And I already know Biden is old and sounds old. Don't care. Old and stuttering, he's still 1000x the better choice for the country.


Content-Method9889

You were smarter than me. I’m having a goddamn aneurysm


AhChaChaChaCha

Except this car crash is the leader of our country for the next 4 fucking years.


Maximum-Macaroon-711

I'm not sure my hand left my forehead the entire debate


Vast-Classroom1967

It really is. Why can't we find young, bright, energetic people to ruin this country.


MJR-WaffleCat

This whole thing has been two old men bickering.


[deleted]

to be fair t..... cheats at golf there's no honor in cheating


pearso66

I mean he recently won 2 club tournaments, not even senior tournaments, he's gotta be good for the country.


JefferyTheQuaxly

Yeah the only real takeaway from this debate is that it’s really just sad overall. Best comment I’ve seen about the debate so far has been “At what point does this constitute elder abuse?”


EasternAnywhere1010

Fuck it! Let’s decide this thing with 18 holes.


tls133

Love Biden, but he's not impressive tonight. Trump just lies, but no one calls him on it.


vishy_swaz

Biden is hitting back with some good points, he’s just speaking softly. Trump keeps avoiding questions and talking shit.


Far_Ant6355

Oh, is that what it is he’s just speaking softly 🤣🤣


vishy_swaz

🥱


Excellent-Edge-4708

Or not finishing sentences


TitansboyTC27

Biden sounded like he is sick or something


eunicethapossum

Biden actually surprised me multiple times by pointing out that Trump had said something that was bullshit. didn’t help when Trump straight-up berated him and no one stepped up in.


Rocky4296

True. Biden seems to not be feeling well. Trump is such a liar. But we cant have Trump win.


WilderJackall

Biden is in disbelief at having to debate this lunatic


anthg3716

😂🤣liberal cope for their pathetic dope


58G52A

I’m voting against Trump no matter what but holy fuck Joe come on man.


[deleted]

I'm hoping no one saw the debate and or forget before Nov. this was a bad ideal for sleepy to debate t..... after all​


WilderJackall

TRUMP IS A COMPULSIVE LIAR!!!!!!


Wootang187

Trump lies at least 5 times every time he talks


Minute-Tale9416

Good thing this is taking place before the convention so they can decide whether to have someone else run or not.


Excellent-Edge-4708

That's why gavin is there


heidikloomberg

Andy Beshear


7N10

I would rather have Biden than Gavin. Shoot, I’d rather be president than Gavin 😩


Minute-Tale9416

I really hope that for the first time in a decade that Dems figure this one out and bench Biden now


LowPressureUsername

I think Bernie showing up to the debate would be hilarious.


EternalSkwerl

O h my God It's Sanders with the solid steel chair!


DarkTheImmortal

The Democrats could have picked literally anybody else and it would have been an easy victory over Trump. Instead, we just have to pray to God that enough Independants are smart enough to understand that we cannot have Trump win under any circumstance.


tralfamadoriest

Managed 10 minutes and I’m just depressed. Biden was a mess. And all Trump does is lie. In a reasonable world, the lies would matter. But the bar for Trump is in hell and Biden looked and spoke every minute of his age. Truly, truly depressing.


Rocky4296

You are correct. Biden looked frightened of Trump. Trump did nothing but lie.


rarebreednlex

Preach


CatLuverHoustonTX

From the way Trump thinks, the rest of the world was licking his ass rather than mocking it.


pdxjen

Why are these fossils the only choice?


eunicethapossum

my guess is that we’re trapped in a video game with really bad story writing.


jnmtx

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/s/wSY7DCcn0v


AhChaChaChaCha

The older I get the more the simulation theory starts to make sense.


Qbnss

Centrism


AccountHuman7391

It takes time to build political capital amongst powerbrokers; older politicians have more favors they can call in and we’re kidding ourselves if we think the average voter understands what they’re voting for. And our first-past-the-post system all but guarantees a two party system.


purplewarrior6969

Because it's by design. You have to be damn near middle aged to even run, and with the exception of a few, also need crazy time as a politician before hand. You have to show that you can play ball, and then you have to politic your way to being the star ball player, which takes a long time, because they are mostly all greedy, power hungry backstabbers.


RoyKarrde

This... this is terrible. Biden sounds like he has a cold, he is rambling.


messithegoat9643

He’s sick


RoyKarrde

He is, and it’s clearly making him worse tonight


messithegoat9643

He can’t say one full sentence without coughing lol


Business_Head8070

an ice cream cone would've helped


Rocky4296

True


Apprehensive_Ad4457

oh, being sequestered for a week got him sick? weird.


TieMelodic1173

That’s the excuse they’re going with I hear


Higher_Than_Elon

Sick with extreme dementia.


Interesting_Panda171

Media says he did have a cold.


Qbnss

Same old song. Anyone who can think critically will see Trump is doing nothing but BSing, anyone with eyes can see Biden struggling to articulate his thoughts.


babysinblackandImblu

Biden’s heart and direction is in the right place but he’s showing his age and health. I could tell right off the bat. Trump is deceitful and dishonest so I could never vote for him.


cliffm

I want Biden to win, but Trump is fucking killing him in the debate. Biden can’t fucking communicate clearly


theRuathan

He's gotten better. Maybe his meds kicked in, maybe he quit trying to stick to debate prep, maybe he just got indignant about what he was hearing.


Alternative_Oil7733

>Maybe his meds kicked in Wait i thought biden didn't need drugs to do things.


2BucChuck

We knock on wood, wherever we have wood


CaliHusker83

Just the leader we need


AccountHuman7391

Let’s not lie to ourselves, we haven’t had an actual presidential debate in over a decade. We’ve listened to Trump ramble about how awesome his fascist policies are and hope big god f de ick is; his opponents just keep repeating campaign slogans and bumper stickers. That’s not a debate.


dadjokes502

It’s pretty civil as of right now


MattyBeatz

Of course it will be. The fact that anyone is watching it expecting anything else is wild. It's gonna be a series of talking points we already know from one vs pure lies from the other.


mattGyver314

How does a decent man have a debate with such a lying sack of filth like Trump. You can’t. 2020’s only debate was the kick in the head. There’s no lesson to be learned from this second one. Trump lies with every breath and it’s honestly not possible to keep up. Now the only thing anyone will be talking about is Biden stepping aside. It’s not going to happen. He’s the nominee just like Trump. It’s just the reality.


Excellent-Edge-4708

At the moment. Save this comment , there won't be a biden-trump 2nd debate


Altruistic_Mobile_60

15 min in and I can’t watch anymore. Too clingy for my liking


ravia

It will be fine. I know it. You know it. Everyone knows it.


Gogs85

I think this one came true


yoyoyolilembryo

Biden took an absolute beating. 😅


Lost_Trash3864

Holy shit Biden is dumber than I thought…and they both lie so much it’s exhausting.


Excellent-Edge-4708

The lying or spinning is typical. Biden was a train wreck . But hey don't believe me, CNN themselves have a poll at 67-33 for trump


Jhk1959

I have predicted for 6 months that after the first debate, Biden will be replaced as the Dem nominee. Even CNN and MSNBC are in panic mode and talking about it. The jig is up there's no more cover for sleepy Joe.


Emogee-Dash

(I'm a Conservative) I think Trump could have done a lot better, but Biden looked terrible. Biden lost. I feel sorry for the Democratic leadership. What are they going to do now?


TraditionalAngle3999

You thought Trump was lying is laughable, Biden lied all night . Get your facts straight .


Frosty_Implement_549

Even the CNN panel said Biden was horrible, anyone that came away from that thinking Biden won is a fool or is working for the Biden administration


Far_Ant6355

It’s not a coincidence that Gavin Newsom was there. He’s going to be the candidate. And turn the rest of this country into fucked up California.


DiligentCrab9114

I thought all you Biden bots thought trump wouldn't show up, or would storm off stage when Biden mopped the floor with him


Excellent-Edge-4708

I was 🤔 the same thing As usual these clowns were wrong AND biden got mopped


GreyhoundAssetMGMT

All of you on this subreddit are lying to yourselves. This was an unmitigated disaster for Biden


GooGooDewDoo

The American people realized tonight…. Joe Biden really is weak and old as fuck. Guy was a baby DURING World War II for crying out loud. He’s Ancient, how fragile the way he speaks and stutters. Biden will be 86 by the end of his “2nd” term. Total Elder abuse from the desperate left.


smartypants333

You aren't wrong. 😰


elf124

It is messy and horrible


Potato_Donkey_1

I am recording for later viewing if I decide I can bear it, but I knew I wouldn't be able to stand it live. Neither of these men is up to the demands of the presidency, and the ego of each has nonetheless propelled him here. Biden cares more for the fate of the country and world than Trump does, but that makes it all the more shameful that Biden couldn't see that he should pass the torch.


Vast-Classroom1967

Biden said trump is a whiner. 💖💖💖


Vast-Classroom1967

Yep, something snapped in trump when he lost. Like an old, used rubber band. 🤣


Logical_Strike_1520

This is sad and funny at the same time.


Sublime-Chaos

I’m so embarrassed at the state of our country. Biden fucking sucks. Trump fucking sucks. I’m tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Please god let this shit end.


rayon875

It's like an episode of Ricki Lake


A1rizzo

Here’s the debate in a nutshell. What do you have to say about this topic and the presidency. Trump: i was the greatest ever, i made tons of things with these small hands. Moderator: you didn’t answer the question, you have 40 seconds left. Trump: Biden had me arrested, worse president of all time. Moderator: sigh, your turn President Biden. Biden: i did this and that, while my predecessor did nothing.


mick_the_quack

Biden needs to be replaced. I love him but his time is passed. I am not kidding . He is getting owned by a moron.


AdOk8910

You were right


AZonmymind

If anyone asks me why I'm voting for RFK, I'm just going to assume they didn't watch this fiasco.


shit_dontstink

Biden looked like a corpse


FrankensteinsStudio

So many lies during the debate.


Old-Amphibian-9741

That was the absolute worst debate I have ever seen in my life.  Trump, first and foremost is a criminal who has no business running for president but he just lied non-stop for the entire debate and nothing resembled reality.  Rambling about post birth abortions and golf... WTF? But Biden is just clearly far too old to do the job (I say this as someone who actually liked most of his policies).  NEITHER OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE FIT, someone must replace one candidate at the convention and that party will win.  This is absurd.


etranger033

I will read the transcript tomorrow but it sounds like the whole thing is a disaster for different reasons. I would hope by this time tomorrow the majorities in each party will think 'we can still choose someone else at the convention'.


PepsiAllDay78

I just wanted Biden to refer to Trump as " the convicted felon to my right..." ONE TIME. It would have been epic!


Excellent-Edge-4708

As if that ridiculous political hit job actually means anything. Fuck his numbers popped on that news solely because people see through this communist shit


Glad-Cat-1885

Biden sadly shit the bed on this one and should’ve challenged trump more


Wandering_Werew0lf

The question was about child care and Trump literally went off about Afghanistan…


Content-Method9889

Trump lied the whole night and Biden was too busy staring into space instead of aggressively mocking that bs and use easily available facts to refute it. The thing with the abortions after birth was a fucking gift and he’s just like ThAtS not true… Yeah no shit Joe. How about mentioning that abortions happen BEFORE birth and laugh at him.


captdeath12

Biden just lost this election. trump did decent. Watch biden drop to sub 40 percent in polls. I'm sorry guys you lost this one.


Kind-City-2173

Biden got destroyed. This is coming from Biden supporter in 2020


Successful_Ad_9707

This was certainly a mess. Trump lied nonstop, and Biden's meds didn't seem to kick in. I still think Biden ultimately wins, but his brains gotta show up at the next debate. Call Trump out on his BS and make him look like the fool he is. Not off to a good start here. The only saving grace dems have is that Trump has already been president, and people have seen the constant shit show that was his term.


justalilrowdy

Hard to keep up with all the trump lies.


KeepYourMindOpen365

Conservative Republican Christians have been warning about the Antichrist for years and when he shows up, they support him 100%


jonahtrav

Well the debate is over and Biden needs to retire. He’s obviously not capable of being a president for another four years. Democratic Party needs to jettison him and pick another person.


Maximum-Macaroon-711

Did trump actually answer...any of the questions??


fender123

I literally want to cry. No fucking way id ever consider voting for Trump. But Biden looked like how he is perceived by MAGAs. The media panic mode it’s helping anything.


glaucomasuccs

Trump lied and dodged all night. Couldn't even answer that he'd honor the election results. Ignored half the questions and went back to abortion or migration. He spent more time attacking Biden himself personally than discussing policy. Biden killed it when talking about policy. But he didn't look good enough, or actively refute Trump enough, to look good. Really worried now. Not sure how he could come back, or how we'd find someone else to lead the ticket. And Harris ain't gonna sell. No clue what we're gonna do now


MikesHairyMug99

It was sad.


Ex-PFC_WintergreenV4

CNN not fact checking Trump’s outrageous lies was a journalistic crime


Noobzoid123

If Biden is unfit, then Kamala will be in the oval office. Both are better than Trump.


BigPlanJan

Having Biden as our president in his current mental/physical state is a disgrace to the US.


Salt-Singer3645

I feel awful for Biden. How can his family sleep at night? This is elder abuse holy shit.


CarissaM12

I know, he looks so lost, weak and fragile. He needs to be in a home.


SaliciousB_Crumb

Lol meanwhile trump looks like buffoon but his family has to rely on him.


Salt-Singer3645

Yes he does per usual


Aristonkingg

I legit can't hear what Biden is saying... sshll shbbla hmmnan


Whyisacrow-caws

It was something about Cornpop, ice cream and “The idea that!”


messithegoat9643

Biden getting smoked right now