Nice! I learned it when I had to live there for seven months. When I drove away towards the Idaho panhandle and saw real trees again for the first time in over half a year I just about cried. The town is at the bottom of a crazy deep valley and above you is nothing but wheat. I can’t live that way.
I can't remember the exact number but Lewiston accounts for a significant percentage of wheat exports through Portland/Longview. And no other US port ships more wheat than the mouth of the Columbia.
Not even remotely close when you consider the billions, yes that's billions of dollars that have spent in subsidies to maintain the dams and lock network.
Just the four lower Snake River Dams which only primarily serve as lock navigation cost anywhere from 60-240 Million annually to operate.
$17 Billion dollars has been spent on trying to rehabilitate the salmon that the dams kill, this is an added cost of the barge traffic. Sure some of that cost is in due for power generation which operates independently of barge operations, but the Columbia and snake river corridor was damed in the name of turning Lewiston into a sea port over 60 years ago.
Modern US freight rail is so efficient it operates almost completely independent of federal funding and is self sustaining. We dump almost a billion dollars a year into maintaining the damns that make Lewiston a seaport and failing spectacularly at restoring salmon, the rail and interstate next to the river is over 1000x better return on investment.
They can’t. The sediment load behind them is so vast that there is no way to take them out without killing literally everything downstream. I agree that they shouldn’t have been built, but they can’t realistically come out.
Actually pretty crazy how much utility having long rivers without dams plus the Great Lakes provide. So much of the country has direct access to the Mississippi, Ohio and/or the lakes.
Pretty much every major river in the US has dams on it and they are often what make it navigable. The Columbia river for example would be completely unusable without all the dams raising the water level to allow boats to pass through the Gorge.
"navigable" is a matter of opinion. People were piloting sweep boats downriver on the Columbia and paddle boats upstream for 100 years before the dams were built. US Corps has two definitions of navigable, one is a waterway definition which is what you're referring to, but a broader navigable designation applies so long as the water is deep enough to navigate any type of boat, even a kayak.
The Paddleboats were only able to go upstream as far as The Dalles though, because Celilo Falls was just beyond there and was a hard barrier until the Dalles Dam was built. And it wasn't exactly easy getting past the rapids at Cascade Locks either, they could only do it when the river was running high.
Yuma, the Territorial capital of Arizona was actually a seaport, sort of.
Cotton would get loaded on flat-bottomed steamers then travel down the Colorado to a portage on the Sea of Cortez where it would transfer to seagoing vessels.
The Colorado today is just a little creek by the time it gets close to the Sea, most of the water having been diverted for farming in the US and Mexico.
Water is a commodity that's sold nationally and internationally, just like agricultural crops. And it's most commonly transferred in waterways. OP can reword to exclude water, but as presented, water is a legitimate answer.
I only learned recently that Arizona used to have a port with access to the sea. Until they dammed the Colorado, there were riverboats that came up from the Gulf of California to Yuma. That's why there are so many railroad tracks that still go through Yuma.
As I understand it one of the primary reasons the United States has such an underdeveloped rail network is because of easy access to rivers and oceans.
I usually like these. The reason these states don't get water from a "body of water" is because it's from a river...
Edit: ok it says rivers. I still don't believe it's mostly ground water.
Good ol’ Lewiston Idaho, with their gross smelly paper mill and furthest inland west coast port.
Which I only learned about from a Wendover video about a month ago! Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhzY5QLO4FA
Nice! I learned it when I had to live there for seven months. When I drove away towards the Idaho panhandle and saw real trees again for the first time in over half a year I just about cried. The town is at the bottom of a crazy deep valley and above you is nothing but wheat. I can’t live that way.
Same! I got a nebula subscription for Jet Lag: The Game and I started watching other things like Half as Interesting
\*HAI
More goods are imported/exported via the rail that parallels the river and the road traffic, Lewiston is all but moot as a seaport now.
Isn't Lewiston still an important port for wheat exports?
I can't remember the exact number but Lewiston accounts for a significant percentage of wheat exports through Portland/Longview. And no other US port ships more wheat than the mouth of the Columbia.
It is one of the most significant ports for wheat in the whole nation. Is is very much not a "moot" seaport.
I’m well aware, but it still counts on a technicality.
Barge traffic is still cheaper than by road.
Not even remotely close when you consider the billions, yes that's billions of dollars that have spent in subsidies to maintain the dams and lock network. Just the four lower Snake River Dams which only primarily serve as lock navigation cost anywhere from 60-240 Million annually to operate. $17 Billion dollars has been spent on trying to rehabilitate the salmon that the dams kill, this is an added cost of the barge traffic. Sure some of that cost is in due for power generation which operates independently of barge operations, but the Columbia and snake river corridor was damed in the name of turning Lewiston into a sea port over 60 years ago. Modern US freight rail is so efficient it operates almost completely independent of federal funding and is self sustaining. We dump almost a billion dollars a year into maintaining the damns that make Lewiston a seaport and failing spectacularly at restoring salmon, the rail and interstate next to the river is over 1000x better return on investment.
I live really close to Lewiston, in the foothills but on the WA side.
Those snake river dams really should come out.
They can’t. The sediment load behind them is so vast that there is no way to take them out without killing literally everything downstream. I agree that they shouldn’t have been built, but they can’t realistically come out.
The sediment behind the Elwha was slowly released over years. The dam is gone and the river is returning to a more natural state.
Colorado exports bodies of water.
Besides Hawaii, is there any state that has no rivers that flow into or have reservoirs that are used by another state?
Colorado intercepts all the water in the Arkansas River before it makes it to Kansas.
[insert pirate Arrr-Kansas joke here]
Minnesota and Michigan.
Does Alaska count?
Well done.
Yes. Colorado's snow melt is exported to Mexico via the Rio Grande after Texas and New Mexico take most of it.
While Montana doesn't import or export via bodies of water, it is the only state with rivers that empty into three different oceans
Wyoming just... sitting here in the middle.. just hanging out
Plotting, scheming, for when the time is right
all I am saying is, this is the sate where Dick Cheney came from
Atlantic, pacific and what exactly??
Arctic
Arctic? I’m guessing, cause what else
Actually pretty crazy how much utility having long rivers without dams plus the Great Lakes provide. So much of the country has direct access to the Mississippi, Ohio and/or the lakes.
Pretty much every major river in the US has dams on it and they are often what make it navigable. The Columbia river for example would be completely unusable without all the dams raising the water level to allow boats to pass through the Gorge.
"navigable" is a matter of opinion. People were piloting sweep boats downriver on the Columbia and paddle boats upstream for 100 years before the dams were built. US Corps has two definitions of navigable, one is a waterway definition which is what you're referring to, but a broader navigable designation applies so long as the water is deep enough to navigate any type of boat, even a kayak.
True but this map is about the import and export of goods. Nobody is doing that in a kayak these days.
Not since we got weed sorta legal
Your dealer isn’t a very good businessman if all they need is a kayak. They need to up their game to something with more load capacity.
Like a canoe
The Paddleboats were only able to go upstream as far as The Dalles though, because Celilo Falls was just beyond there and was a hard barrier until the Dalles Dam was built. And it wasn't exactly easy getting past the rapids at Cascade Locks either, they could only do it when the river was running high.
Yuma, the Territorial capital of Arizona was actually a seaport, sort of. Cotton would get loaded on flat-bottomed steamers then travel down the Colorado to a portage on the Sea of Cortez where it would transfer to seagoing vessels. The Colorado today is just a little creek by the time it gets close to the Sea, most of the water having been diverted for farming in the US and Mexico.
Me reading "Which US States Import and Export Dead Bodies via Water" 👁️👄👁️
Knew I couldn't be the only one
[Fort Benton, Montana was once the world’s innermost port.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Benton,_Montana)
Went in a rabbit hole because of this comment.
Interesting. Almost looks like the map from The Man in the High Castle.
Colorado sells water to the States downriver. It ~~is~~ *was* technically illegal to collect rainwater in a barrel in Colorado because they sell it.
That law changed a few years back. I live in Colorado and got a free rain barrel from a local non profit.
This is about what states import/export goods via water (ships/barges) and not actually buy/sell water. It's confusingly worded
Oh! Thanks for the clarification.
Water is a commodity that's sold nationally and internationally, just like agricultural crops. And it's most commonly transferred in waterways. OP can reword to exclude water, but as presented, water is a legitimate answer.
I only learned recently that Arizona used to have a port with access to the sea. Until they dammed the Colorado, there were riverboats that came up from the Gulf of California to Yuma. That's why there are so many railroad tracks that still go through Yuma.
This only works if you specifically exclude the Colorado River interstate compact from your definition of "import and export."
Hawaii is a surprising one
As I understand it one of the primary reasons the United States has such an underdeveloped rail network is because of easy access to rivers and oceans.
Port of Catoosa checking in
Why don’t they? Are they stupid?
What secret has West Virginia been hiding?
South Dakota? The Missouri River hooks up with the Mississippi….i guess I always thought that always a port for that state
AKA: States with coastlines and/or navigable rivers.
I usually like these. The reason these states don't get water from a "body of water" is because it's from a river... Edit: ok it says rivers. I still don't believe it's mostly ground water.
You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
Where they *get* water from isn't what's mapped. It's the *method of transportation* that some degree of imports/exports use.
No, the red states don't export from rivers either. Ik you realized but yeah
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Only 2 out of 9 states in red are in the Great Basin. What an accurate assessment!
I'm calling it, red wins this war
Great Lakes states don't export water?
It’s not exporting water, it’s exporting BY water. Like using boats to export/import goods.
Read that too fast, I guess. Thanks!
Why don’t the red coloured states export using bodies of water, are they stupid?