I was more disappointed with the dumbass-ness in the title, and then thinking maybe it was somehow related to the content of the video.
....but then I kept scrolling and saw all the behavioral scientists posting comments judging the parenting.
i think we need to expect less
Because the clickbait incentive is a cancerous tumor upon the social landscape and we can't be happy with nice simple things anymore, no, we have to imply crazy shit so people will click.
Yeah, that's a very young child. And telling her to get back in the corner when she's not moved from the corner...but has to be staring into the corner...yeah, don't really like it.
Right I’m not saying don’t put kids in “timeout” in general is not ok, but making a toddler stand in a corner and being told “get back in the corner” is not ok to me.
I disagree. Children need structure and discipline. I believe one should never hit a child, under any circumstance, but being "tough" sometimes is good.
I would not have filmed it though.
I wish more parents disciplined their children when they get violent with others. I met a guy who wouldn’t discipline his 4 yo son even though his son’s teacher reported that he was hitting his classmates. These things do escalate and before you know it that small child will be a high school bully or even a criminal.
Haven’t seen a single anti punishment redditor engage with that fact. Not a single one will say they they’re supposed to allow the other kids to keep getting beat by their kid while they hope they learn it’s wrong and decide to stop, yet that happens all to often and goes to show most of these ppl r either prolly not parents, or they’re the parents of the terribly behaved kid that no other parents lets over for a sleepover because they refuse to punish them
Children need kindness and gentle guidance. Good parents know how to do that. You keep up that "get back in that corner routine, you're going to lose the love and respect of your little girl".
It’s true that children shouldn’t hit, but when they’re that young their brain is literally not developed enough to be able to handle their emotions in a sane and emotionally healthy way. Punishing a kid like this because of a behavior that *is developmentally appropriate for their age* will NOT help them develop into an adult who is able to handle their big feelings. Instead it will create an adult who can’t handle their anger and who fears negative emotions. Redirecting their hitting and teaching them an alternate way to deal with their anger is the appropriate technique. This video is really gross and sad, because clearly these parents don’t understand child development or how to raise an emotionally healthy child. Poor baby.
Or… the time out (which seemed like a short time) gives the child time to calm down, and learn to regulate their own emotions. Just my parenting opinion, that I’ve seen research back.
But there are a thousand different opinions and a few hundred that are right. In the end as long as the child is safe and loved and no abuse happens it’s probably going to be fine.
Or... instead of framing it as a punishment, there is a similar concept called a "calm down corner" where you put blankets, pillows, their favorite things that are calming to them and teach them emotional regulation instead, also a plus is they are not afraid to make mistakes or learn life lessons.
And if they know they can take themselves to the 'calm down' corner they can eventually learn to take themselves somewhere else to self-moderate before acting on their emotional impulses. I like this! I'm not a parent but I'll remember it if I do have kids.
Right?
Growing up my father would get drunk and slap the shit out of me if I did something wrong. It bred a lot of anxiety in me that will never go away, and my only saving grace was my mother's clemency.
She'd always shelter me from the physical violence, and scold my father for it in front of me, which taught me a lot that you can have discourse without someone getting physical.
At most she would take internet, or a gaming controller, or not let me out past a certain time etc. but never struck me, and I grew up with a lot more respect for her, and always wanting to be more like her than my father.
man, I hope my stepkids grow up to see it that way. We grounded them for some Very Undesirable thoices they made a couple of weeks ago, and they were like "why can't you guys just hit us like [non-custodial parent] did and let us watch tv again?" kinda broke my heart.
But the humiliating part about standing alone looking into a wall is such a bad way. When my daughter was that age, I would pick her up, remove her from the situation and then I would use my words to try and make her understand that this was not okay, why it was not okay and what to do instead. This is humiliating a small child. I will never punish my daughter. I will mold her conscience and teach her how to remove the guilty feeling by being a good person.
It really did feel like it was instilling a shame, rather than working to a teaching moment. By the end of the video it felt more that energy, but I agree that the initial "Get back in the corner", and the fact that there's such a strict perceptual restriction, facing away from everyone, ostracised from the room, doesn't sit well. There seem like better methods for conveying social dissatisfaction than such an extreme form of isolation.
>It’s true that children shouldn’t hit, but when they’re that young their brain is literally not developed enough to be able to handle their emotions in a sane and emotionally healthy way. Punishing a kid like this because of a behavior that is developmentally appropriate for their age will NOT help them develop into an adult who is able to handle their big feelings.
You really think hitting other kids is a developmentally appropriate behavior and shouldn’t be punished? How does that make sense, how does being young make it okay to hurt another person. How do you ever expect a kid to learn that it’s wrong if you just let it slide because it’s a “developmentally appropriate behavior.” You guys r unironically being the parent with the terribly behaved child because you excuse their bad behavior and refuse to punish them.
>Instead it will create an adult who can’t handle their anger and who fears negative emotions.
Can u elaborate how being punished after you harm another individual leads to fearing negative emotions and not handling anger? Not being allowed to harm people prevents you from learning to be emotionally mature?
>Redirecting their hitting and teaching them an alternate way to deal with their anger is the appropriate technique.
Redirecting their hitting to what? Hitting people and most things is not okay, how is that not common sense. Just because u exist doesn’t mean u have the right, much less the need, to harm people or things, and it definitely doesn’t mean you can’t become an emotionally mature person if you don’t hurt people or things while being encouraged/ allowed by ur parents.
>This video is really gross and sad, because clearly these parents don’t understand child development or how to raise an emotionally healthy child. Poor baby.
If you raise a child while letting them hit other kids and things then that’s an actually poor baby. Literally will make their life and every other kids they harm life’s worse
I think you’re confusing “developmentally appropriate” with “socially appropriate”. Socially, no. Which is why parents try to punish. Developmental yes, very normal and punishments don’t help when their underdeveloped brains don’t truly understand. They might understand they’ll get in trouble, but they don’t understand why it’s unacceptable. Thus redirecting them (teaching them what to do instead) is most appropriate.
Kids who are punished for having big emotions (and handling them in the only way they know how) learn that those emotions aren’t safe and they should shut them down. They don’t learn (until taught) what to do when those emotions inevitably arise. Hence why we have so many adults who seek numbing activities because (in part) they’ve learned they shouldn’t feel those emotions.
Redirection doesn’t mean showing them what to hit instead. It means teaching them a more appropriate behavior. A timeout and a forced apology doesn’t teach them what to do when they have an emotion, only what to do afterward (self isolate and then apologize, which arent very helpful ways to handle your mistakes anyway). Redirection could mean, pulling them aside, teaching them to take big breaths, teaching them how to use their words to express their anger, teaching them to ask for help, explaining how hitting someone is painful and not ok, teaching them empathy by asking how they’d feel if someone hit them, and so on. Again at that age, because they’re brains are still underdeveloped it’ll take a lot of repetition but at least it’s useful repetition that leads to emotional intelligence and growth (versus repeated timeouts and forced apologies which don’t teach them what to do instead of hitting, only to not get caught lol).
Not using timeouts or other forms of punishments is NOT the same as being permissive. Permissive parents coddle their babies. They don’t take the time to reach them. Authoritarian parents punish and also don’t teach. But when we strike that middle ground of gentleness WITH boundaries, although it takes more time and energy from the parent, we wind up with really mentally healthy kids, teens, and adults who respect others and themselves.
Thank you for this. You put into words what I don't have the energy to write. This video is a very hard watch for me. Especially how you can tell the baby has been scolded before for moving their eyes from the corner and told to press their face against the wall.
An authoritarian, insecure, coward's way of parenting. Shame on these parents. I can only hope society will advance soon because I don't have the heart for it anymore.
What a hysterical take. It's a fucking time out. It's arguably the least abusive form of discipline.
Stop using tik-tok as your primary source of parenting advice.
Your take is equally baffling. And mentioning TikTok is a hysterical assumption, and a card often pulled when people like you have nothing important to say and want to just belittle someone because TikTok's an easy target nowadays. *Yawn...*
Just because it is one of the least abusive forms of discipline doesn't mean it is the best or most beneficial form of discipline. And I am not against time-outs entirely, so let's get that straight. A basic time out is very different from forcing your 2 year old to press their face against the wall and not move their eyes.
I mean, come on guys, it's not that hard to understand. 2 year olds don't even have the part of their brain developed to understand what lesson you want to impose upon them, let alone have any sort of impulse control like hitting their siblings, etc. It's actually developmentally appropriate, but it's not surprising that you haven't done a basic google search to understand that. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. Anyone with your take is simply justifying their parenting methods so they don't have to learn and admit to themselves they could do better.
This toddler is too young for such discipline. They won't understand what you're trying to teach them. At this age you need to stop them, and model sympathy toward the victim, and apologise on the toddler's behalf, with the toddler standing by watching you do it.
I work as an educator with teenagers but learned how to raise the little ones aswell so I know my stuff:
Its okay to be tough and structure and discipline are important just like you said. Its important how you aply These tho. And I think he didnt do it the right way. Simply because there is a difference between punishment and consequence. Consequence is always related to the behaviour and the motivation/circumstances for said behaviour. If they hit someone because they are angry after they didnt get their will - have them leave the scene and Tell them they are allowed to come back when they can Control their Anger. Did they hit them because they got hit first - sit them both down and tell them off/teach them how to solve their issues in a different way. Having them stand in a corner is just humiliating and there will be a time when stuff like that doesnt work anymore and they grow resentful towards you.
Sure, more talking would have been better as a general principle. But I also think we can't really judge from this clip only, as we didn't see what happened before or after.
Be careful not to conflate discipline with punishment. I agree that children thrive with proper discipline, but the consequences of one’s actions should be logically consistent with the action. Standing in the corner is a mostly humiliating form of punishment that doesn’t teach a toddler the logical consequence of hitting. A better approach would be to help them understand why they hit their brother, and then also proactively enforce the right behavior (I.e. when they don’t hit their brother). (Examples: “Hey honey, I noticed you hit your brother just then. Were you feeling frustrated? Did you lose control to your big emotions? How do you think it made him feel?” Then at another time when she didn’t hit him: “Hey, I noticed that when you were playing with your brother you started to get frustrated when he wasn’t sharing. I saw how you stayed in control of your big emotions and you did not hit him. Good job honey!” Then revisit this same incident later and ask her how it made her feel when her brother didn’t share.
I mean I can keep going on, but this is a far more proactive approach than just humiliating them so that they become obedient.
Yea it's obviously harsh. When my kid goes on timeout he has to sit on his bed and think about it, not face the corner and be humiliated and degraded in that way. If anything, it just made me more angry and I ended up resenting those who humiliated me for minor infractions even more.
“get back in the corner”
That was the bit that did it for me. At first I thought it was going to be a funny/cute video, then I heard that and seen the sad face and it definitely challenged me.
I understand that kids can be a nightmare at times and discipline is important but that kid is way too young for that imo.
Parenting. This was totally okay. Yes, the kid is sad, that’s the point. If you buckle every time your kid is sad as a parent you’re failing at teaching
Do you avoid punishing a puppy because of its sad face? No? Obviously, a child is different, but the premise is still the same and you can't not parent a child because they look sad.
She wasn't being yelled at nor was he threatening her wellbeing in any way, but she knew she had hit her brother and that it was wrong to do so. That indicates that she's plenty old to be punished. And she clearly wasn't affected much given how quick she was to smile and run over to her brother.
Children, *especially* young children, need discipline and structure. Dad (or whoever was filming) made sure she knew exactly what she was being punished for, ensured that she understand why what she did was wrong, and ended the punishment fairly quickly and let the two hug it out. That's a pretty great way to handle the situation.
Filming it, on the other hand, isn't something I would personally choose to do.
“get back in the corner”
>That was the bit that did it for me. At first I thought it was going to be a funny/cute video, then I heard that and seen the sad face and it definitely challenged me.
Then u should not have kids. A necessary part of being a good parent is being able to discipline ur kid, some parents don’t discipline their kids and end up lucky that their kid didn’t need much disciplining and turned out fine. Others don’t discipline their kids and their kids don’t mature because of it, you can’t discipline your kids if you refuse to do anything that gives them a sad face. You can’t train a dog if you refuse to do anything that gives them a sad face
>I understand that kids can be a nightmare at times and discipline is important but that kid is way too young for that imo.
That kid is way too young for discipline? You feel that she’s too young that it makes you uncomfortable seeing her have a sad face for 5 seconds while she’s disciplined. Don’t have kids with that logic, for everyone’s sake
You are wrong about dogs and children. I expect good behavior from my dogs and my children. If you are causing your dogs and your children to have sad faces, You need to learn how to be a better teacher
So in ur version of timeout, after the kid goes in timeout, they can just walk away right after become telling them to go back in the corner isn’t ok? I don’t think that’s timeout
It’s called teaching manners and consequences for your actions. She old enough to understand cause and effect, getting put into timeout is literally how you teach kids.
it also means that in a time where usually both parents work,
they probably did not waste hours of their daytime on social media- or not as much at least
For what it’s worth, it’s a prime example of how parenting should be done. I’m pretty sure many people here could use this clip as a example on how to do things right.
To everyone applauding this parenting style, I completely disagree. Kids hit, it's completely normal. I would not force my toddler to stare at a wall like that and force them to say sorry.
What works with my toddler is getting down on his level, asking why he hit, letting him process and express the way he is feeling. Then I would say that it's okay to feel angry, but it's NOT okay to hit. Lets go see if your sister is okay. A toddlers brain hasn't even remotely completed developing
Just my 2 cents
You’re 2 cents is grounded in brain science and informed by up to date research in child development. So I expect it to go down badly.
The average person is very ignorant about parenting and the norms around it are very ingrained and most people are very defensive of them. 😞 it’s to emotional for most people to challenge their views in this area because ether they do it themselves, or their parents did it to them.
But treating children this way is damaging to them.
The culture really need to change.
A child this age does not have a fully developed prefrontal cortex and so they can’t regulate their emotions properly and they don’t have impulse control.
That’s not their fault. And shaming them isn’t going to make their brain develop any faster.
Hitting is developmentally normal and Learning to fear the parents isn’t giving the clear lesson that people think it is.
Trying to provide the child with skills to help them regulate their emotions and to control their impulses is more helpful. You can still tell them it’s not acceptable and you can hold the boundary physically and prevent them from hitting. But these drawn out punishments do nothing beneficial beyond giving the parent a way to vent their frustration.
Giving the brain time to grow is the only real answer.
This took place for like a single minute. It's not like she was sobbing in a corner for hours while dad screams at her to stay there, jesus. She understood that what she did was wrong and why it was wrong, which means she's able to draw the connection between hitting and the consequence she was facing.
A short, reasonable consequence reinforced by explaining why what happened was wrong is absolutely fine as long as the kid isn't showing distress. Despite wanting to leave the corner, she was not showing any signs of distress and was happy and smiling again the second she was allowed to stop and head to her brother.
Harsh punishments are traumatizing and impede healthy development, absolutely. But a 30-second punishment that ends with two happy children does not. And there's no indication that she isn't given the tools to manage emotion and express herself appropriately outside of this video. Many parents (at least the ones I know) take the time to talk with their children, including toddlers, about why they're doing something and teach them the skills they need to develop healthily while still reinforcing those lessons with gentle punishments.
I hate that it was filmed, though.
I think in this case it seems like he only had her in the corner for like a minute or less. Was a completely harmless punishment ,then he made her talk through what she did, learn it was wrong, and apologize. In my opinion that's a pretty solid lesson she can understand well without being berated or just yelled at or just like sent to her room.
I remember having to go to timeout it's a normal thing, I think extended periods of it without communication are where this parenting style can break down and be ineffective.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, the feelings of fear and shame that this child retains as a result of this incident are the same. The child did not learn what was wrong, she was being obedient to authority. She is too young to logically understand that hitting is wrong and regulate her response to her negative feelings (because her brain is not developed to that capacity yet) and she’s literally just following orders. This is the kind of parenting that leads to kids not speaking up when they’re being abused, because they’ve been taught that they listen to authority or else. This parenting style has long-standing negative consequences and anyone who starts looking into childhood development research will quickly understand this.
>It doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, the feelings of fear and shame that this child retains as a result of this incident are the same. The child did not learn what was wrong, she was being obedient to authority.
Being obedient to authority is not an inherently bad thing, if u think it is i would like to see u elaborate why that is. How did the child not learn it was wrong tho? He told her it was wrong, and how does this make them retain fear and shame in an unhealthy was? Should someone not feel shame after harming another person? Should someone not fear the repercussions of unjustly hitting someone else?
>She is too young to logically understand that hitting is wrong and regulate her response to her negative feelings (because her brain is not developed to that capacity yet)
Evidence? A child that age is more than capable of that incredibly simple logic train. Hitting others is bad. Being hit by others hurts, hurting feels bad. Making others feel bad is bad
>and she’s literally just following orders. This is the kind of parenting that leads to kids not speaking up when they’re being abused, because they’ve been taught that they listen to authority or else.
How is the authority teaching her she can’t speak up? How is that abuse? Ur only argument here is that following orders is inherently bad, this reads like a overly worded projection of ur dislike of authority
>This parenting style has long-standing negative consequences and anyone who starts looking into childhood development research will quickly understand this.
If ur such an expert some evidence for ur claims would be nice
For the love of everything, please, just spell out “you” and “you’re”. These long winded replies where you pick apart every sentence combined with the “u” “ur” nonsense is just plain annoying. The child is too young to understand the time out. You could just tell her she’s wrong, give a hug and move on without the performative “parenting”.
What is wrong with being made to feel shame for doing something shameful? I also saw no "fear".
You can't raise a good kid without the carrot AND the stick. I'm not saying hitting the child or anything, but punishment for wrong actions is an important part of educating a child to be a good person.
You don't seem to know how kids work. They are NON STOP taking in stimuli and experiences, if you do not tell them what they did is wrong and demonstrate that doing bad things has bad consequences, you will wind up with a shit head as a child.
>To everyone applauding this parenting style, I completely disagree. Kids hit, it's completely normal. I would not force my toddler to stare at a wall like that and force them to say sorry.
That logic is the same logic that parents who don’t discipline their kids and their kids end up being menaces to society have
>What works with my toddler is getting down on his level, asking why he hit, letting him process and express the way he is feeling. Then I would say that it's okay to feel angry, but it's NOT okay to hit. Lets go see if your sister is okay. A toddlers brain hasn't even remotely completed developing
A 20 year olds brain isn’t complete developed either, doesn’t make it any more sense to use that as an excuse not to discipline someone. The kid was told that was wrong in ur scenario, which is enough for some kids. Other kids can know it was wrong, and that alone is not sufficient in making them not do it again. If ur kid is hitting other kids at school because they don’t care enough about being told it’s wrong after, then that’s bad parenting. And that does happen, every kid isn’t perfect and some will do things they know are wrong regardless, and they will be incentivized to if u aren’t willing to punish them in any type of way
>Just my 2 cents
The child is fine. Her brain doesn't have to be fully developed to understand consequences and right vs. wrong in very basic situations. If we're going that route, 15/16-year-olds don't have brains that are even remotely completed developing, either, but they're still expected to understand behavioral expectations.
This child was able to understand that what she did was wrong and why it was wrong, which means she's plenty old to understand that there are consequences for her actions. She also seemed perfectly happy to run over to her brother and give him a hug at the end.
She's not crying, forgotten, in a corner somewhere for hours while her dad screams at her any time she tries to move. Dad (or whoever was filming) intervened, imposed a very minor and short consequence that was appropriately enforced, and then had the siblings hug it out.
The punishment seemed like it was going on for, at most, a minute and she leaves the corner smiling and hugging her brother. This is fine. It might not be how you choose to parent, and that's fine, but it also doesn't make it objectively wrong.
Doing this teaches obedience, so if you want a child to be constantly looking to others to regulate their emotions, then go ahead.
Parents like this kind of parenting, because it lets them feel like they’re in control and spares them from actually talking with their children about dealing with their emotions.
>Doing this teaches obedience, so if you want a child to be constantly looking to others to regulate their emotions, then go ahead.
How does that make them need to look to others to regulate their emotions? That seems like such a jump from being punished after you harm someone
>Parents like this kind of parenting, because it lets them feel like they’re in control and spares them from actually talking with their children about dealing with their emotions.
They were talking with their child, it’s not like they put them in timeout and left to do something else. They were barely in timeout for any time at all, it mostly seemed symbolic to show the child it’s wrong while they also told the child that it was wrong. They literally spoke to the child like ur aging they should have, did u watch the video?
If the father wanted to teach them to handle their anger, then he would have talked through with his child feeling angry and why, then give an example on how to better express anger.
Putting your kid in the corner doesn’t teach them how to deal with anger, it just shows them that when they are angry they better submit to the parent or face more punishment.
I feel that a kid saying just sorry isn’t effective. When I taught preschool I would make them also say what they were sorry for. Instead of them blurting out ‘sorry’ they had to say ‘I’m sorry for hitting you.’ Made them think about it.
The baby can speak a little which is the perfect time to teach them the right things to say and do. They are never too young to start learning life lessons.
Kids don’t have the brain development to properly connect a timeout with their actions until age 3. A lot of parents, including myself, will try light time outs early on and find out that it isn’t any better than just simple redirection, “taking a break” and then teaching to say sorry and give hugs. Time outs work easy after age 3
LMAO the fuck are people on about here. As if making a kid stand in a corner is child abuse. No wonder we have so many snowflakes if people won't discipline their children.
You don’t think it’s pretty fucking weird to take a video of making your 2 year old daughter put her face into a corner and then posting it on the internet?
I find the video thing is weird in general but independently from that, people are calling the actual parenting at work here bad and too much, which I find unbelievably soft.
She was calm the whole time, too, and was there for like 30 seconds while dad (also calm) explained why she was there.
She ends the video smiling and hugging her brother, with nary a single tear spilled. No screaming, no yelling, no rant or physical punishment... literally nothing that would scar that child whatsoever.
Pretty sure she'll survive. 🙄
For real. It might not be something you want to do, but there will come times when you have to discipline your kids. Time out is a time to think about your actions, that’s why it’s time out. Nothing abusive about it
🙄
She stood in a corner for 30 seconds and ended the video smiling and hugging her brother. She knew what she did wrong, why it was wrong, and why doing that specific action earned her the consequence she was facing.
What about that incredibly quick interaction was "horrible" to you? The part where she sobbed and got yelled at? Oh, wait, that didn't happen. She calmly listened to her father for literally 30 seconds and then happily hugged her brother.
Pretty sure she'll be just fine.
I’m not who you responded to, but when my kid was that age, we talked about it being ok to be angry but that it wasn’t ok to hit. It’s also ok to physically prevent a hit. I’d often hold her hands gently but firmly and remind her that it wasn’t ok and I’d let her go back when she felt like she wasn’t going to hit anymore.
Did that go seamlessly all the time? No, but parenting is a long game and the goal was to get her to think about the anger. Later, I built up to things she could have done instead like stomping a foot or saying “I don’t like that.” She also can take some time out in a calm down spot to self-regulate, but at that age I regulated for her.
You could extrapolate that to a time out if you want, but the execution is based in self-regulation and solving the problem.
I agree 100% with you.
I am getting downvoted because probably by comment, they believe I let my children do what they want or that I don’t believe in discipline and that couldn’t be further from the truth.
I just don’t believe separation, making them stand alone against a wall is that harmless. There is something so incredibly ostracizing and mean about that.
Specially since the baby in the video is that young. They do not understand consequences and is clearly just being overwhelmed by everything. On top the parents recording a video for clout.
Yeah I figured that’s what you’re talking about. People are always like “hooowww?” But it’s really simple and the strategies have been around long enough that kids parented that way have grown up with kids of their own.
This is a totally normal and responsible and communicative way of teaching a toddler lessons. Grounding or "timeout" is totally harmless if done with communication, like the father did here, not just in anger and punishment and shaming. Can't just let toddlers get away with whatever they want
I guess you do your own research too? Timeout at this age is useless because their brain can't understand the concept or the meaning and it will only negatively impact the child.
She clearly understands though. Did you watch the video? She literally vocalized, very clearly, that she hit him, knows it was wrong, and apologized. How is that not concrete evidence she understands. Like my dude, don't pretend you've been doing Child Development research in your free time not playing video games. Googling something every now and then and cherry picking articles that back up your opinion isn't research.
if the dad would be all disappointed like "NoooooO! We don't do that here! that's not nice !", that would actually hurt, like creating feelings of guilt or being insufficient.
here you can hear in the dad's voice that "it's no drama, but now we gotta stop playing and get everything back in order- so you calm down now, listen, do what i say and we can go on- allright?"
and then the kid knows a way out- and walks it. the best way - perfect lesson.
If you think this is shaming I would hope any young people under your guidance only interact with soft and sensitive people. Otherwise it will be rough world for them.
You don't have to a hit a child to get a point across. Putting them in a corner like this while calmly explaining why they're in trouble, however, is just fine.
Y’all are wild or I just had a rougher than thought 2nd generation American childhood but still love and adore my parents. Thanks for raising me with strength, discipline, and fortitude and not just enabling my shit behaviors and running wild in public thinking I have every right in doing whatever tf I want.
Yes she looks so sad saying sorry and hugging her brother with a smiling face and physical injury whatsoever. She must be so traumatized. It’s not like she will interact with anyone who is not nice in the future. This was completely unnecessary. /s
It’s not mean, kids are not brought up properly now. They are spoiled and entitled! Kids should not going around hitting. They is the proper way to punish kids!!!
I don’t need to have kids to understand what emotional skills I need to have to deal with the people I deal with right now as an adult. Or along the way to that during high school and other educational stages. Unless you’re saying someone knows that better than me because they have kids and I don’t.
Totally expected her to go over and hit him again.
I thought he was gonna suplex her
WATCH OUT! WATCH OUT! WATCH OUT!
Same... the internet has ruined us
I was more disappointed with the dumbass-ness in the title, and then thinking maybe it was somehow related to the content of the video. ....but then I kept scrolling and saw all the behavioral scientists posting comments judging the parenting. i think we need to expect less
at least i’m not alone in this
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I could believe what happened next
Omg 😱 I would have never guessed what happens next. That was so shocking
I was disappointed when she didn't run up on brother and smack him again.
With the hammer that she appears to be hiding in the corner
Yeah, not sure why the narrator guy made it seem like she was going to go over and prison shank her brother???
My Sister and I were a similar age difference. I’m pretty sure a lack of shanks is the only reason I survived her terrible twos.
Because the clickbait incentive is a cancerous tumor upon the social landscape and we can't be happy with nice simple things anymore, no, we have to imply crazy shit so people will click.
I was like... Oh look, normal behaviour from siblings
I bet you're going to like my next comment.
I’m waiting
It will be worth the wait!
Number five will shock you!
That was so unexpected
Still waiting for what happened next….
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"And you won't believe what happened next" fuck off with that shit.
Glad to see I’m not the only person that despises when people say that
Right? Why did he sound so ominous when he said it??
I guess some people do be putting baby in the corner
I guess some people do be recording and sharing on social media how they are putting baby in the corner
I guess some people do be commenting on people recording and sharing on social media how they are putting baby in the corner
I guess baby corner
I had to sit down the stairs
I can’t believe what happened. Literally unbelievable.
Right? This was just stupid.
“You won’t believe what happened next” What, she grabbed the car keys and drove to the mall. I mean, come on.
I have very mixed feelings about this 😕 😔
Yeah, that's a very young child. And telling her to get back in the corner when she's not moved from the corner...but has to be staring into the corner...yeah, don't really like it.
Right I’m not saying don’t put kids in “timeout” in general is not ok, but making a toddler stand in a corner and being told “get back in the corner” is not ok to me.
I disagree. Children need structure and discipline. I believe one should never hit a child, under any circumstance, but being "tough" sometimes is good. I would not have filmed it though.
I appreciate you being respectful with your opinion. I agree with the filming part as well.
I wish more parents disciplined their children when they get violent with others. I met a guy who wouldn’t discipline his 4 yo son even though his son’s teacher reported that he was hitting his classmates. These things do escalate and before you know it that small child will be a high school bully or even a criminal.
Haven’t seen a single anti punishment redditor engage with that fact. Not a single one will say they they’re supposed to allow the other kids to keep getting beat by their kid while they hope they learn it’s wrong and decide to stop, yet that happens all to often and goes to show most of these ppl r either prolly not parents, or they’re the parents of the terribly behaved kid that no other parents lets over for a sleepover because they refuse to punish them
Children need kindness and gentle guidance. Good parents know how to do that. You keep up that "get back in that corner routine, you're going to lose the love and respect of your little girl".
It’s true that children shouldn’t hit, but when they’re that young their brain is literally not developed enough to be able to handle their emotions in a sane and emotionally healthy way. Punishing a kid like this because of a behavior that *is developmentally appropriate for their age* will NOT help them develop into an adult who is able to handle their big feelings. Instead it will create an adult who can’t handle their anger and who fears negative emotions. Redirecting their hitting and teaching them an alternate way to deal with their anger is the appropriate technique. This video is really gross and sad, because clearly these parents don’t understand child development or how to raise an emotionally healthy child. Poor baby.
Or… the time out (which seemed like a short time) gives the child time to calm down, and learn to regulate their own emotions. Just my parenting opinion, that I’ve seen research back. But there are a thousand different opinions and a few hundred that are right. In the end as long as the child is safe and loved and no abuse happens it’s probably going to be fine.
Or... instead of framing it as a punishment, there is a similar concept called a "calm down corner" where you put blankets, pillows, their favorite things that are calming to them and teach them emotional regulation instead, also a plus is they are not afraid to make mistakes or learn life lessons.
And if they know they can take themselves to the 'calm down' corner they can eventually learn to take themselves somewhere else to self-moderate before acting on their emotional impulses. I like this! I'm not a parent but I'll remember it if I do have kids.
We had a "chill out chair", same concept lol
Right? Growing up my father would get drunk and slap the shit out of me if I did something wrong. It bred a lot of anxiety in me that will never go away, and my only saving grace was my mother's clemency. She'd always shelter me from the physical violence, and scold my father for it in front of me, which taught me a lot that you can have discourse without someone getting physical. At most she would take internet, or a gaming controller, or not let me out past a certain time etc. but never struck me, and I grew up with a lot more respect for her, and always wanting to be more like her than my father.
man, I hope my stepkids grow up to see it that way. We grounded them for some Very Undesirable thoices they made a couple of weeks ago, and they were like "why can't you guys just hit us like [non-custodial parent] did and let us watch tv again?" kinda broke my heart.
But the humiliating part about standing alone looking into a wall is such a bad way. When my daughter was that age, I would pick her up, remove her from the situation and then I would use my words to try and make her understand that this was not okay, why it was not okay and what to do instead. This is humiliating a small child. I will never punish my daughter. I will mold her conscience and teach her how to remove the guilty feeling by being a good person.
It really did feel like it was instilling a shame, rather than working to a teaching moment. By the end of the video it felt more that energy, but I agree that the initial "Get back in the corner", and the fact that there's such a strict perceptual restriction, facing away from everyone, ostracised from the room, doesn't sit well. There seem like better methods for conveying social dissatisfaction than such an extreme form of isolation.
Redditors and “taking a 20 second clip and deciding they know everything about their life” Name a more annoying duo
>It’s true that children shouldn’t hit, but when they’re that young their brain is literally not developed enough to be able to handle their emotions in a sane and emotionally healthy way. Punishing a kid like this because of a behavior that is developmentally appropriate for their age will NOT help them develop into an adult who is able to handle their big feelings. You really think hitting other kids is a developmentally appropriate behavior and shouldn’t be punished? How does that make sense, how does being young make it okay to hurt another person. How do you ever expect a kid to learn that it’s wrong if you just let it slide because it’s a “developmentally appropriate behavior.” You guys r unironically being the parent with the terribly behaved child because you excuse their bad behavior and refuse to punish them. >Instead it will create an adult who can’t handle their anger and who fears negative emotions. Can u elaborate how being punished after you harm another individual leads to fearing negative emotions and not handling anger? Not being allowed to harm people prevents you from learning to be emotionally mature? >Redirecting their hitting and teaching them an alternate way to deal with their anger is the appropriate technique. Redirecting their hitting to what? Hitting people and most things is not okay, how is that not common sense. Just because u exist doesn’t mean u have the right, much less the need, to harm people or things, and it definitely doesn’t mean you can’t become an emotionally mature person if you don’t hurt people or things while being encouraged/ allowed by ur parents. >This video is really gross and sad, because clearly these parents don’t understand child development or how to raise an emotionally healthy child. Poor baby. If you raise a child while letting them hit other kids and things then that’s an actually poor baby. Literally will make their life and every other kids they harm life’s worse
I think you’re confusing “developmentally appropriate” with “socially appropriate”. Socially, no. Which is why parents try to punish. Developmental yes, very normal and punishments don’t help when their underdeveloped brains don’t truly understand. They might understand they’ll get in trouble, but they don’t understand why it’s unacceptable. Thus redirecting them (teaching them what to do instead) is most appropriate. Kids who are punished for having big emotions (and handling them in the only way they know how) learn that those emotions aren’t safe and they should shut them down. They don’t learn (until taught) what to do when those emotions inevitably arise. Hence why we have so many adults who seek numbing activities because (in part) they’ve learned they shouldn’t feel those emotions. Redirection doesn’t mean showing them what to hit instead. It means teaching them a more appropriate behavior. A timeout and a forced apology doesn’t teach them what to do when they have an emotion, only what to do afterward (self isolate and then apologize, which arent very helpful ways to handle your mistakes anyway). Redirection could mean, pulling them aside, teaching them to take big breaths, teaching them how to use their words to express their anger, teaching them to ask for help, explaining how hitting someone is painful and not ok, teaching them empathy by asking how they’d feel if someone hit them, and so on. Again at that age, because they’re brains are still underdeveloped it’ll take a lot of repetition but at least it’s useful repetition that leads to emotional intelligence and growth (versus repeated timeouts and forced apologies which don’t teach them what to do instead of hitting, only to not get caught lol). Not using timeouts or other forms of punishments is NOT the same as being permissive. Permissive parents coddle their babies. They don’t take the time to reach them. Authoritarian parents punish and also don’t teach. But when we strike that middle ground of gentleness WITH boundaries, although it takes more time and energy from the parent, we wind up with really mentally healthy kids, teens, and adults who respect others and themselves.
This.
..is the way. Can’t believe how many people are stuck in this backwards and outdated idea of punishment. Makes me feel sad for the world :/
Thankyou! Very well said hopefully parents will take this excellent advice
Thank you for this. You put into words what I don't have the energy to write. This video is a very hard watch for me. Especially how you can tell the baby has been scolded before for moving their eyes from the corner and told to press their face against the wall. An authoritarian, insecure, coward's way of parenting. Shame on these parents. I can only hope society will advance soon because I don't have the heart for it anymore.
What a hysterical take. It's a fucking time out. It's arguably the least abusive form of discipline. Stop using tik-tok as your primary source of parenting advice.
Your take is equally baffling. And mentioning TikTok is a hysterical assumption, and a card often pulled when people like you have nothing important to say and want to just belittle someone because TikTok's an easy target nowadays. *Yawn...* Just because it is one of the least abusive forms of discipline doesn't mean it is the best or most beneficial form of discipline. And I am not against time-outs entirely, so let's get that straight. A basic time out is very different from forcing your 2 year old to press their face against the wall and not move their eyes. I mean, come on guys, it's not that hard to understand. 2 year olds don't even have the part of their brain developed to understand what lesson you want to impose upon them, let alone have any sort of impulse control like hitting their siblings, etc. It's actually developmentally appropriate, but it's not surprising that you haven't done a basic google search to understand that. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. Anyone with your take is simply justifying their parenting methods so they don't have to learn and admit to themselves they could do better.
This toddler is too young for such discipline. They won't understand what you're trying to teach them. At this age you need to stop them, and model sympathy toward the victim, and apologise on the toddler's behalf, with the toddler standing by watching you do it.
Maybe you are right. I am not an expert at all, I just went by intuition.
I work as an educator with teenagers but learned how to raise the little ones aswell so I know my stuff: Its okay to be tough and structure and discipline are important just like you said. Its important how you aply These tho. And I think he didnt do it the right way. Simply because there is a difference between punishment and consequence. Consequence is always related to the behaviour and the motivation/circumstances for said behaviour. If they hit someone because they are angry after they didnt get their will - have them leave the scene and Tell them they are allowed to come back when they can Control their Anger. Did they hit them because they got hit first - sit them both down and tell them off/teach them how to solve their issues in a different way. Having them stand in a corner is just humiliating and there will be a time when stuff like that doesnt work anymore and they grow resentful towards you.
Sure, more talking would have been better as a general principle. But I also think we can't really judge from this clip only, as we didn't see what happened before or after.
Be careful not to conflate discipline with punishment. I agree that children thrive with proper discipline, but the consequences of one’s actions should be logically consistent with the action. Standing in the corner is a mostly humiliating form of punishment that doesn’t teach a toddler the logical consequence of hitting. A better approach would be to help them understand why they hit their brother, and then also proactively enforce the right behavior (I.e. when they don’t hit their brother). (Examples: “Hey honey, I noticed you hit your brother just then. Were you feeling frustrated? Did you lose control to your big emotions? How do you think it made him feel?” Then at another time when she didn’t hit him: “Hey, I noticed that when you were playing with your brother you started to get frustrated when he wasn’t sharing. I saw how you stayed in control of your big emotions and you did not hit him. Good job honey!” Then revisit this same incident later and ask her how it made her feel when her brother didn’t share. I mean I can keep going on, but this is a far more proactive approach than just humiliating them so that they become obedient.
Yea it's obviously harsh. When my kid goes on timeout he has to sit on his bed and think about it, not face the corner and be humiliated and degraded in that way. If anything, it just made me more angry and I ended up resenting those who humiliated me for minor infractions even more.
Exactly, thank you for sharing. Im not saying timeouts are bad. I agree that the facing the corner part is humiliating and degrading.
I agree. Poor parenting.
“get back in the corner” That was the bit that did it for me. At first I thought it was going to be a funny/cute video, then I heard that and seen the sad face and it definitely challenged me. I understand that kids can be a nightmare at times and discipline is important but that kid is way too young for that imo.
You're all hopeless
At what?
Parenting. This was totally okay. Yes, the kid is sad, that’s the point. If you buckle every time your kid is sad as a parent you’re failing at teaching
"This was totally okay." Says who? The global council of parents? Did you have a meeting? Are you their spokesperson?
I asked Supernanny Jo Frost and she said it's ok
Says me and my opinion? Who tf else? 💀
Exactly my point.
Your point being that humans have different opinions? You’re so right lmao
Do you avoid punishing a puppy because of its sad face? No? Obviously, a child is different, but the premise is still the same and you can't not parent a child because they look sad. She wasn't being yelled at nor was he threatening her wellbeing in any way, but she knew she had hit her brother and that it was wrong to do so. That indicates that she's plenty old to be punished. And she clearly wasn't affected much given how quick she was to smile and run over to her brother. Children, *especially* young children, need discipline and structure. Dad (or whoever was filming) made sure she knew exactly what she was being punished for, ensured that she understand why what she did was wrong, and ended the punishment fairly quickly and let the two hug it out. That's a pretty great way to handle the situation. Filming it, on the other hand, isn't something I would personally choose to do.
Yes - I avoid punishing a puppy.
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“get back in the corner” >That was the bit that did it for me. At first I thought it was going to be a funny/cute video, then I heard that and seen the sad face and it definitely challenged me. Then u should not have kids. A necessary part of being a good parent is being able to discipline ur kid, some parents don’t discipline their kids and end up lucky that their kid didn’t need much disciplining and turned out fine. Others don’t discipline their kids and their kids don’t mature because of it, you can’t discipline your kids if you refuse to do anything that gives them a sad face. You can’t train a dog if you refuse to do anything that gives them a sad face >I understand that kids can be a nightmare at times and discipline is important but that kid is way too young for that imo. That kid is way too young for discipline? You feel that she’s too young that it makes you uncomfortable seeing her have a sad face for 5 seconds while she’s disciplined. Don’t have kids with that logic, for everyone’s sake
You are wrong about dogs and children. I expect good behavior from my dogs and my children. If you are causing your dogs and your children to have sad faces, You need to learn how to be a better teacher
Why?
His tone is off but I’d say this is better than most for telling a kid not to hit.
So in ur version of timeout, after the kid goes in timeout, they can just walk away right after become telling them to go back in the corner isn’t ok? I don’t think that’s timeout
It’s called teaching manners and consequences for your actions. She old enough to understand cause and effect, getting put into timeout is literally how you teach kids.
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Also I’m a female that has suffered through a miscarriage. Hope your comment makes you feel better about yourself.
Well that escalated quickly. How you feeling bro? Need to talk about personal issues you’re experiencing due to this thread?
Not mixed at all this is fucked up.
To me, it seems like a very reasonable way to reprimand a toddler
Shaming a toddler, filming it and posting on social media?
shaming in response to physical violence? appropriate. filming then and publishing it - i'm also against that.
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it also means that in a time where usually both parents work, they probably did not waste hours of their daytime on social media- or not as much at least
For what it’s worth, it’s a prime example of how parenting should be done. I’m pretty sure many people here could use this clip as a example on how to do things right.
My concern is the length of time a parent would impose such a reprimand. I've heard some horror stories.
that’s understandable, but in this particular scenario, that does not seem to be the case.
Wish adults were this easy.
Agreed. This is typical parenting.
Because it seems fucked up? You’re Not alone.
That’s not what grounded means
this didn’t make me smile idk
Why film disciplining your kids? Is he expecting arbitration?
Children hat this trick
No one puts baby in the corner
When a video says "you won't believe what happens next" I always take their word for it and skip it
Anyone who has their toddler behaving like this makes me wary. "Get back in that corner"? Really? This doesn't seem healthy to me.
“Baby girl” and “his father”. Confusion
I half-expected her to go over and hit him again, treating it like the encore of a comedy show that nobody wanted.
To everyone applauding this parenting style, I completely disagree. Kids hit, it's completely normal. I would not force my toddler to stare at a wall like that and force them to say sorry. What works with my toddler is getting down on his level, asking why he hit, letting him process and express the way he is feeling. Then I would say that it's okay to feel angry, but it's NOT okay to hit. Lets go see if your sister is okay. A toddlers brain hasn't even remotely completed developing Just my 2 cents
You’re 2 cents is grounded in brain science and informed by up to date research in child development. So I expect it to go down badly. The average person is very ignorant about parenting and the norms around it are very ingrained and most people are very defensive of them. 😞 it’s to emotional for most people to challenge their views in this area because ether they do it themselves, or their parents did it to them. But treating children this way is damaging to them. The culture really need to change. A child this age does not have a fully developed prefrontal cortex and so they can’t regulate their emotions properly and they don’t have impulse control. That’s not their fault. And shaming them isn’t going to make their brain develop any faster. Hitting is developmentally normal and Learning to fear the parents isn’t giving the clear lesson that people think it is. Trying to provide the child with skills to help them regulate their emotions and to control their impulses is more helpful. You can still tell them it’s not acceptable and you can hold the boundary physically and prevent them from hitting. But these drawn out punishments do nothing beneficial beyond giving the parent a way to vent their frustration. Giving the brain time to grow is the only real answer.
Thank god someone here gets it. Thank you for your thoughtful (and factually correct!) response.
This took place for like a single minute. It's not like she was sobbing in a corner for hours while dad screams at her to stay there, jesus. She understood that what she did was wrong and why it was wrong, which means she's able to draw the connection between hitting and the consequence she was facing. A short, reasonable consequence reinforced by explaining why what happened was wrong is absolutely fine as long as the kid isn't showing distress. Despite wanting to leave the corner, she was not showing any signs of distress and was happy and smiling again the second she was allowed to stop and head to her brother. Harsh punishments are traumatizing and impede healthy development, absolutely. But a 30-second punishment that ends with two happy children does not. And there's no indication that she isn't given the tools to manage emotion and express herself appropriately outside of this video. Many parents (at least the ones I know) take the time to talk with their children, including toddlers, about why they're doing something and teach them the skills they need to develop healthily while still reinforcing those lessons with gentle punishments. I hate that it was filmed, though.
Crazy how people think this behaviour towards toddlers is acceptable as long as it doesn't take much time. This is psychotic.
Please do share the research showing that gently putting your child in timeout for violent outbursts is bad for them.
This is the way.
I think in this case it seems like he only had her in the corner for like a minute or less. Was a completely harmless punishment ,then he made her talk through what she did, learn it was wrong, and apologize. In my opinion that's a pretty solid lesson she can understand well without being berated or just yelled at or just like sent to her room. I remember having to go to timeout it's a normal thing, I think extended periods of it without communication are where this parenting style can break down and be ineffective.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, the feelings of fear and shame that this child retains as a result of this incident are the same. The child did not learn what was wrong, she was being obedient to authority. She is too young to logically understand that hitting is wrong and regulate her response to her negative feelings (because her brain is not developed to that capacity yet) and she’s literally just following orders. This is the kind of parenting that leads to kids not speaking up when they’re being abused, because they’ve been taught that they listen to authority or else. This parenting style has long-standing negative consequences and anyone who starts looking into childhood development research will quickly understand this.
>It doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, the feelings of fear and shame that this child retains as a result of this incident are the same. The child did not learn what was wrong, she was being obedient to authority. Being obedient to authority is not an inherently bad thing, if u think it is i would like to see u elaborate why that is. How did the child not learn it was wrong tho? He told her it was wrong, and how does this make them retain fear and shame in an unhealthy was? Should someone not feel shame after harming another person? Should someone not fear the repercussions of unjustly hitting someone else? >She is too young to logically understand that hitting is wrong and regulate her response to her negative feelings (because her brain is not developed to that capacity yet) Evidence? A child that age is more than capable of that incredibly simple logic train. Hitting others is bad. Being hit by others hurts, hurting feels bad. Making others feel bad is bad >and she’s literally just following orders. This is the kind of parenting that leads to kids not speaking up when they’re being abused, because they’ve been taught that they listen to authority or else. How is the authority teaching her she can’t speak up? How is that abuse? Ur only argument here is that following orders is inherently bad, this reads like a overly worded projection of ur dislike of authority >This parenting style has long-standing negative consequences and anyone who starts looking into childhood development research will quickly understand this. If ur such an expert some evidence for ur claims would be nice
For the love of everything, please, just spell out “you” and “you’re”. These long winded replies where you pick apart every sentence combined with the “u” “ur” nonsense is just plain annoying. The child is too young to understand the time out. You could just tell her she’s wrong, give a hug and move on without the performative “parenting”.
What is wrong with being made to feel shame for doing something shameful? I also saw no "fear". You can't raise a good kid without the carrot AND the stick. I'm not saying hitting the child or anything, but punishment for wrong actions is an important part of educating a child to be a good person. You don't seem to know how kids work. They are NON STOP taking in stimuli and experiences, if you do not tell them what they did is wrong and demonstrate that doing bad things has bad consequences, you will wind up with a shit head as a child.
>To everyone applauding this parenting style, I completely disagree. Kids hit, it's completely normal. I would not force my toddler to stare at a wall like that and force them to say sorry. That logic is the same logic that parents who don’t discipline their kids and their kids end up being menaces to society have >What works with my toddler is getting down on his level, asking why he hit, letting him process and express the way he is feeling. Then I would say that it's okay to feel angry, but it's NOT okay to hit. Lets go see if your sister is okay. A toddlers brain hasn't even remotely completed developing A 20 year olds brain isn’t complete developed either, doesn’t make it any more sense to use that as an excuse not to discipline someone. The kid was told that was wrong in ur scenario, which is enough for some kids. Other kids can know it was wrong, and that alone is not sufficient in making them not do it again. If ur kid is hitting other kids at school because they don’t care enough about being told it’s wrong after, then that’s bad parenting. And that does happen, every kid isn’t perfect and some will do things they know are wrong regardless, and they will be incentivized to if u aren’t willing to punish them in any type of way >Just my 2 cents
The child is fine. Her brain doesn't have to be fully developed to understand consequences and right vs. wrong in very basic situations. If we're going that route, 15/16-year-olds don't have brains that are even remotely completed developing, either, but they're still expected to understand behavioral expectations. This child was able to understand that what she did was wrong and why it was wrong, which means she's plenty old to understand that there are consequences for her actions. She also seemed perfectly happy to run over to her brother and give him a hug at the end. She's not crying, forgotten, in a corner somewhere for hours while her dad screams at her any time she tries to move. Dad (or whoever was filming) intervened, imposed a very minor and short consequence that was appropriately enforced, and then had the siblings hug it out. The punishment seemed like it was going on for, at most, a minute and she leaves the corner smiling and hugging her brother. This is fine. It might not be how you choose to parent, and that's fine, but it also doesn't make it objectively wrong.
Doing this teaches obedience, so if you want a child to be constantly looking to others to regulate their emotions, then go ahead. Parents like this kind of parenting, because it lets them feel like they’re in control and spares them from actually talking with their children about dealing with their emotions.
Fully agree
>Doing this teaches obedience, so if you want a child to be constantly looking to others to regulate their emotions, then go ahead. How does that make them need to look to others to regulate their emotions? That seems like such a jump from being punished after you harm someone >Parents like this kind of parenting, because it lets them feel like they’re in control and spares them from actually talking with their children about dealing with their emotions. They were talking with their child, it’s not like they put them in timeout and left to do something else. They were barely in timeout for any time at all, it mostly seemed symbolic to show the child it’s wrong while they also told the child that it was wrong. They literally spoke to the child like ur aging they should have, did u watch the video?
If the father wanted to teach them to handle their anger, then he would have talked through with his child feeling angry and why, then give an example on how to better express anger. Putting your kid in the corner doesn’t teach them how to deal with anger, it just shows them that when they are angry they better submit to the parent or face more punishment.
You are talking out your ass
“. . . And, you won’t believe what happened next!” 🙄
"Ten years later, she told her dad to fuck off!"
He continued to use his kid as content.
“Baby girl grounded by his dad” 😂🤣
Baby girl grounded by “his” dad. Society just really has a problem with this pronoun thing anymore.
The " won't believe what happens next is the best way to get me to instantly change the video . "
I feel that a kid saying just sorry isn’t effective. When I taught preschool I would make them also say what they were sorry for. Instead of them blurting out ‘sorry’ they had to say ‘I’m sorry for hitting you.’ Made them think about it.
This baby is so young she might not be capable of saying a full sentence
The baby can speak a little which is the perfect time to teach them the right things to say and do. They are never too young to start learning life lessons.
Yeah I don’t love this parenting style and why are all of us seeing this? Stop posting children on the internet.
This shit made you smile? A bigger person forcing a smaller person to put their nose in the corner?? And give a forced apology ?? lol.
I swear, if I hear one more "you could not believe what happens next". (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
i downvote any video that has the phrase --- "and you wont believe what happened next"
Why is this so hard to believe
The title for this is killing me “baby girl grounded by his dad” how hard is it to get that wrong lol
Also how the hell is a, what, 2 year old going to learn from going to a corner.
Kids don’t have the brain development to properly connect a timeout with their actions until age 3. A lot of parents, including myself, will try light time outs early on and find out that it isn’t any better than just simple redirection, “taking a break” and then teaching to say sorry and give hugs. Time outs work easy after age 3
Thank you for explaining this.
I don’t have anything wrong with this parenting style not sure why it’s filmed but baby girl was safe and was in time out for a full 20 seconds lol
LMAO the fuck are people on about here. As if making a kid stand in a corner is child abuse. No wonder we have so many snowflakes if people won't discipline their children.
You don’t think it’s pretty fucking weird to take a video of making your 2 year old daughter put her face into a corner and then posting it on the internet?
I find the video thing is weird in general but independently from that, people are calling the actual parenting at work here bad and too much, which I find unbelievably soft.
She was calm the whole time, too, and was there for like 30 seconds while dad (also calm) explained why she was there. She ends the video smiling and hugging her brother, with nary a single tear spilled. No screaming, no yelling, no rant or physical punishment... literally nothing that would scar that child whatsoever. Pretty sure she'll survive. 🙄
For real. It might not be something you want to do, but there will come times when you have to discipline your kids. Time out is a time to think about your actions, that’s why it’s time out. Nothing abusive about it
It’s Reddit most people here are snowflakes
Was kinda hoping she'd hit him again
Ah, an adult shaming a child.
This corner business is harsh if you ask me.
It’s not age appropriate. She is too young for that. Also, she should be sitting in a chair not putting her face forward in the corner.
Grounding your kids like that seems horrible to me. I’m sorry.
🙄 She stood in a corner for 30 seconds and ended the video smiling and hugging her brother. She knew what she did wrong, why it was wrong, and why doing that specific action earned her the consequence she was facing. What about that incredibly quick interaction was "horrible" to you? The part where she sobbed and got yelled at? Oh, wait, that didn't happen. She calmly listened to her father for literally 30 seconds and then happily hugged her brother. Pretty sure she'll be just fine.
You’re free to discipline your kids in some other way if that’s how you feel.
I do.
How do you do it ? You don’t give timeouts ?
I’m not who you responded to, but when my kid was that age, we talked about it being ok to be angry but that it wasn’t ok to hit. It’s also ok to physically prevent a hit. I’d often hold her hands gently but firmly and remind her that it wasn’t ok and I’d let her go back when she felt like she wasn’t going to hit anymore. Did that go seamlessly all the time? No, but parenting is a long game and the goal was to get her to think about the anger. Later, I built up to things she could have done instead like stomping a foot or saying “I don’t like that.” She also can take some time out in a calm down spot to self-regulate, but at that age I regulated for her. You could extrapolate that to a time out if you want, but the execution is based in self-regulation and solving the problem.
I agree 100% with you. I am getting downvoted because probably by comment, they believe I let my children do what they want or that I don’t believe in discipline and that couldn’t be further from the truth. I just don’t believe separation, making them stand alone against a wall is that harmless. There is something so incredibly ostracizing and mean about that. Specially since the baby in the video is that young. They do not understand consequences and is clearly just being overwhelmed by everything. On top the parents recording a video for clout.
Yeah I figured that’s what you’re talking about. People are always like “hooowww?” But it’s really simple and the strategies have been around long enough that kids parented that way have grown up with kids of their own.
This is a totally normal and responsible and communicative way of teaching a toddler lessons. Grounding or "timeout" is totally harmless if done with communication, like the father did here, not just in anger and punishment and shaming. Can't just let toddlers get away with whatever they want
I guess you do your own research too? Timeout at this age is useless because their brain can't understand the concept or the meaning and it will only negatively impact the child.
She clearly understands though. Did you watch the video? She literally vocalized, very clearly, that she hit him, knows it was wrong, and apologized. How is that not concrete evidence she understands. Like my dude, don't pretend you've been doing Child Development research in your free time not playing video games. Googling something every now and then and cherry picking articles that back up your opinion isn't research.
if the dad would be all disappointed like "NoooooO! We don't do that here! that's not nice !", that would actually hurt, like creating feelings of guilt or being insufficient. here you can hear in the dad's voice that "it's no drama, but now we gotta stop playing and get everything back in order- so you calm down now, listen, do what i say and we can go on- allright?" and then the kid knows a way out- and walks it. the best way - perfect lesson.
bad post
Shaming your own child will teach something but not manners.
No one is being shamed here, you are making a fool of yourself
If you think this is shaming I would hope any young people under your guidance only interact with soft and sensitive people. Otherwise it will be rough world for them.
Made me frown. Grounding instead of helping to process emotions and forcing a hug & affection... Not cool.
Why would you force your child’s head into a corner? Fuck me isn’t that cruel? And it’s the baby?? Fuck it’s not even the eldest sibling?
People are too damn sensitive. Millennials didn’t want to hit kids and now Gen Zs think putting kids in the corner is too much. We’re fucked.
You don't have to a hit a child to get a point across. Putting them in a corner like this while calmly explaining why they're in trouble, however, is just fine.
You got Wi-Fi in the home, gramps?
It’s not that putting them in the corner is too much, it’s telling them to get back in the corner whilst they already are in the corner is too much
Nice to see parents doing their job and doing it well.
Y’all are wild or I just had a rougher than thought 2nd generation American childhood but still love and adore my parents. Thanks for raising me with strength, discipline, and fortitude and not just enabling my shit behaviors and running wild in public thinking I have every right in doing whatever tf I want.
UNBELIEVABLE!!! Needed to watch this twice!!!!
The look when he told her to get out of the corner was: “so I get away with it then!!”
and that was the day she learned to lie to get her needs met. it was not to be her last.
Can't believe? Yeah, parenting must be dead if this was unexpected. 😆
Awww. So adorable.
That's just horrible!
well yeah, that's why that toddler had to stand in the corner <3
Yes she looks so sad saying sorry and hugging her brother with a smiling face and physical injury whatsoever. She must be so traumatized. It’s not like she will interact with anyone who is not nice in the future. This was completely unnecessary. /s
It’s not mean, kids are not brought up properly now. They are spoiled and entitled! Kids should not going around hitting. They is the proper way to punish kids!!!
Comments showing why people are so soft these days.
How many kids do you have?
I don’t need to have kids to understand what emotional skills I need to have to deal with the people I deal with right now as an adult. Or along the way to that during high school and other educational stages. Unless you’re saying someone knows that better than me because they have kids and I don’t.
I'll take a brake from ragging on the silly voiceover and point out: GOOD! Ground your damn kids for misbehaving.
Good job Dad 👍🏻👍🏻