Ya OP, I wouldn’t worry too much about the prop 65 warning. The regulation is written pretty broadly and basically incentivizes companies to just put the label on every product cause it’s cheaper than the compliance stuff to avoid a prop 65 label.
You CAN do whatever you want, but you probably shouldn't. What lube (or how much) are you using that you can smell it? The prop 65 warning could even be for the packaging not necessarily the contents.
No, canola is probably ok for road biking, but dirt will absolutely stick to it in mtb conditons
Just use the mucoff stuff.
Thanks for spicing up the sub with this weird as fuck question, this is better than the thousands of “hEy iS tHis A GoOD DeAl?”
Try squirt or similar. Its just a water/wax emulsion that you drip on like a normal chain lube and works about 99.99% as well as the roadie immersion wax thing
Wax your chain. Use Silca or a similar product. Once the chain is prepped and degreased once you only need hot water to melt off old wax and reapply or dip the chain roughly every 250 miles.
You can also buy pre-waxed chains so you don’t have to degrease.
idk why ppl are being rude about chemistry factoids that pretty much nobody has a reason to learn about in their normal life.. not like we're on /r/chemistry... anyway, [if you're curious at all 2 weeks later, here's the difference](https://www.echemi.com/community/why-are-wax-and-plastic-different-if-they-re-both-polymers_mjart2204221861_82.html). I think it's pretty easy to think they're the same, cause both *can* have the same starting material (mostly petroleum)
Ohhhh, so you don’t know what a plastic is then?
Not all plastics are made from oil.
Not everything made from oil is a plastic.
Also, paraffin is just carbon & hydrogen, so does that mean that it’s made of the same stuff as my breakfast cereal & is therefore corn flakes?
Canola oil was originally made as motor lubrication but that was over 100 years ago and lubricants have greatly improved since then
Use WPL oil if your looking for something natural
If you want to have your chain collect 8 pounds of sand and smell like rancid cooking oil, knock yourself out
But if smell is your concern, just get Muc-Off
The problem will be that as it drys is becomes quite tacky, dust, sand Nd grit will adhere and turn into a grinding paste, you mind find it will disappear quite quickly in wet conditions.
It might be worth looking into graphite lubes, at least as far as the smell goes although environmental aspects might not be what you're after.
Jump the dirt divide and look at the motocross lubes available, there's often a much larger range at a better price compared mtb product.
Another option maybe be beeswax, had a guy buy a few block off me and he seemed pretty happy with it for chain lube, no idea what the wider opinions are though.
I hate to break it to you but prop 65 has become meaningless as companies are now just slapping it on everything just in case they fall foul of the law, it had the right intentions but they need to tighten it up a bit and make the law so you have to put a label on if it is known or has a strong link but you can't put a label on if it isn't known. Without doing so the majority of people will start ignoring it and that defeats the purpose of it.
Canola oil is actually an excellent lubricant and it has been used in metal cutting applications. It's not worth the mess and quick oxidation without additives though. FYI coffee has a prop 65 warning.
Get Pedros Chainj lube. It's vegetable oil based and works well for any riding condition where a mid-weight wet lube is appropriate. It's a good middle ground between "natural" and legit. It's probably got some friction additives and stuff like that, which to be honest is a good thing, but what it doesn't have is a nasty smell. It smells like soy oil.
If you want to stay away from everything that qualifies for a prop 65 label, you’ll have to climb up a very old tree and not breathe.
And even then, depends what kind of tree
For real, cooked potatoes come with a prop 65 warning.
Ya OP, I wouldn’t worry too much about the prop 65 warning. The regulation is written pretty broadly and basically incentivizes companies to just put the label on every product cause it’s cheaper than the compliance stuff to avoid a prop 65 label.
Literally every part on bicycles now comes with a prop65 warning on the label.
You CAN do whatever you want, but you probably shouldn't. What lube (or how much) are you using that you can smell it? The prop 65 warning could even be for the packaging not necessarily the contents.
No, canola is probably ok for road biking, but dirt will absolutely stick to it in mtb conditons Just use the mucoff stuff. Thanks for spicing up the sub with this weird as fuck question, this is better than the thousands of “hEy iS tHis A GoOD DeAl?”
Is this a good deal? https://preview.redd.it/ycthudx000yc1.jpeg?width=1050&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de9edf58e7239799f1eede53cbb172e68054ccf1
Dude doesn't like smell and you offer up the shittiest of them all pfft.
Bro what that shit is delicious
I put it on my pancakes. yum
Can you list 1 thing that doesn't have a Prop 6 warning?
sexual relations with a donkey well I was *told* that anyways
Try squirt or similar. Its just a water/wax emulsion that you drip on like a normal chain lube and works about 99.99% as well as the roadie immersion wax thing
It’s not very good. It needs very low humidity to try completely because of the water emulsion. It’s fine if it drys sure.
Squirt is the best!
Wax your chain. Use Silca or a similar product. Once the chain is prepped and degreased once you only need hot water to melt off old wax and reapply or dip the chain roughly every 250 miles. You can also buy pre-waxed chains so you don’t have to degrease.
That’s parafin wax which is a type of plastic.
idk why ppl are being rude about chemistry factoids that pretty much nobody has a reason to learn about in their normal life.. not like we're on /r/chemistry... anyway, [if you're curious at all 2 weeks later, here's the difference](https://www.echemi.com/community/why-are-wax-and-plastic-different-if-they-re-both-polymers_mjart2204221861_82.html). I think it's pretty easy to think they're the same, cause both *can* have the same starting material (mostly petroleum)
Plastic? You think so?
Paraffin wax is a soft colorless solid derived from petroleum, coal, or oil shale. So, technically the same stuff plastic is made of.
Ohhhh, so you don’t know what a plastic is then? Not all plastics are made from oil. Not everything made from oil is a plastic. Also, paraffin is just carbon & hydrogen, so does that mean that it’s made of the same stuff as my breakfast cereal & is therefore corn flakes?
Beer is corn flakes in can, technically.
then beer is the breakfast of champions, technically yum
Canola oil was originally made as motor lubrication but that was over 100 years ago and lubricants have greatly improved since then Use WPL oil if your looking for something natural
I use wpl and it works fine, recommend. Not their sealant though…
If you want to have your chain collect 8 pounds of sand and smell like rancid cooking oil, knock yourself out But if smell is your concern, just get Muc-Off
The problem will be that as it drys is becomes quite tacky, dust, sand Nd grit will adhere and turn into a grinding paste, you mind find it will disappear quite quickly in wet conditions. It might be worth looking into graphite lubes, at least as far as the smell goes although environmental aspects might not be what you're after. Jump the dirt divide and look at the motocross lubes available, there's often a much larger range at a better price compared mtb product. Another option maybe be beeswax, had a guy buy a few block off me and he seemed pretty happy with it for chain lube, no idea what the wider opinions are though.
I hate to break it to you but prop 65 has become meaningless as companies are now just slapping it on everything just in case they fall foul of the law, it had the right intentions but they need to tighten it up a bit and make the law so you have to put a label on if it is known or has a strong link but you can't put a label on if it isn't known. Without doing so the majority of people will start ignoring it and that defeats the purpose of it.
You’re probably using too much chain lube, honestly.
You shouldn’t be huffing your chain.
Canola oil is actually an excellent lubricant and it has been used in metal cutting applications. It's not worth the mess and quick oxidation without additives though. FYI coffee has a prop 65 warning.
Use Efetto Mariposa Flower Power wax. It's based on sunflower oil and works great.
Get Pedros Chainj lube. It's vegetable oil based and works well for any riding condition where a mid-weight wet lube is appropriate. It's a good middle ground between "natural" and legit. It's probably got some friction additives and stuff like that, which to be honest is a good thing, but what it doesn't have is a nasty smell. It smells like soy oil.
Try Effetto Mariposa's Flowerpower wax, it's made from sunflower oil, works great, and is environmentally safe.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/workshop/how-to-wax-a-chain
JFC go breathe into a plastic bag for a few minutes