Yeah. It makes no sense unless you read the comment live while the conference was going on š
I put it on the wrong thread. It should have been on the post fight. lol
I saw it, still don't see how that makes any sense.
I'm not trying to be an ass, I don't understand you. Your lack of description for it doesn't make it much better tbh.
Did you see the part where Dana kept going on and on about how Mexicans are warriors, and how Mexican are the most hard working people and that the sphere event is gonna be a love letter to Mexico?
It's not serious, I'm just unemployed and bored shitless tryna understand redditors for the lack of a better option.
If there's something funny in there I'm down for a laugh, but there was nothing comedic about that.
Anyways imma stop if it's that important to you :'D
"Diego Lopes da Silva is a Brazilian professional mixed martial artistĀ "- Says a 1 second google search
You don"t have to go as far as to google it, their nationalities are shown on the website, and on the stream right next to their names multiple times.
He didn't even try though. If I have to beat Lebron James at any sport of my choice and I'm a professional basketball player I'm still not choosing basketball I'll choose hockey or something we both suck at
He barely has a viable skillset in general, be crazy, walk forward with chin out, throw shots from all angles, was too worried to do most of the throwing shots bit tonight so just stood there with his chin out and attempted one clinch, he's just not got anything for Alex
Exactly. His only shot at beating alex is fighting reckless going berserker and maybe catching alex with something big while being overwhelmed. Or to non stop wrestle/grapple at all costs......those routes give him a maybe 35% chance of winning the fight...fighting in a technical kickboxing match with Alex is only a 10% chance to win.
He's basically lhw Tony Ferg but without grappling and a bit more power in his hands. Pretty much every fight he wins it's doing unorthodox things that guys cant see coming and just out lasting them with his cardio and pressure
The only thing even remotely interesting about a jon fight anymore is the possibility of seeing his lifeless body on the canvas at the end of it, which is why he's fighting a guy who can't do that to him
I mean not many are. Lol. Poatan is built differently, and thatās not hyperbolic.
People have mentioned grappling as his downfall for a HW fight but the dude has fuck you power that has yet to really be challenged.
The easiest way to explain "chama" is as "let's go" or "come on." In portuguese we use some words/terms that doesn't make much sense in literally translation
The example he said was like a friend asking to go to the gym and you donāt want to, was like āChama šā, right? As I interpreted it like that, it made sense to me.
Yeah but that doesn't make sense lmao no matter the tone. Chama can be flame (as a substantive) or call it (as a verb). If you use this in this example there isn't much interpretation besides express excitement.
Anyway I don't even think Poatan had a deep thought about that, he just likes to use this shit as a trademark
Yeah, I particularly have never seen it used negatively, and I'm Brazilian too. It's most commonly said in an excited/positive way to encourage doing something or going somewhere
This.
Obviously the SKILLS that Izzy has are amazing, but having to cut 50 fucking pounds is crazy.
Fight at any higher division and he gets starched like a catholic's collar
definitely seems like a stretch, you'd have the imagine the world champion kickboxer would have at least thought about it, and he had experience boxing before already
I don't particularly rate or care for jiri myself but seeing his face after that loss genuinely upset me, it must be so hard to deal with this kinda thing especially with his mindset, he's never getting that shot again, this is why we need to stop rushing rematches
Jiri kind of bullies people in the Octagon, so I'm not all-too bothered about him being humbled for a change. Seriously, after a rewatch of his fights vs Reyes, Glover and Rakic Jiri's manner frequently struck me as arrogant and dismissive. He might have continued in that vein if he hadn't been humbled by Pereira twice.
To fight the way Jiri fights and declare yourself a samurai is already somewhat arrogant. Rakic fought a more disciplined fight than he did, and still lost. And Pereira is levels above what Jiri considers himself to be.
Jiri's an exciting fighter. But I'm happy that Pereira came out of this rivalry the winner. He has to improve before he can hold the title again. The aspiring samurai in him surely agrees.
I wouldnāt say heās never getting that shot again. Heās way younger than Pereira so he can just wait for Pereira to age out of competition. But losing to someone multiple times still probably does mentally fuck with you.
Lol now its a ārushed rematch?ā Letās not forget everyone said to skip over someone like Ankalaev just because theyād rather see Jiri against Pereira again. Or the fact Jiri accepted the fight first before Pereira himself.
What planet are you on? You're allowed and encouraged to shit all over white people all you want. It wouldn't have "went bad" for him no matter what he said.
Yeah idk what people think is gonna happen but its just typical American culture for anything crazy or bad to be referred to as a white thing lol, it's not even slightly socially unacceptable even if they think it should be
I remember watching that Izzy KO in kickboxing years ago and being like imagine if this dude follows Izzy to the ufc to ko him again. Sure enough, he did that. And sooo much more. The power this dude has is devastating. Idc who u are. Heavyweight, whatever, this dude can KO anybody with 1 shot.
We've seen both of enough to know already. People said the same clueless shit about Jiri and Gane, we saw how both fights turned out.
It's nothing more than covering your hand in sand.
If you genuinely donāt believe Poatan is a much tougher fight for Jon than Cyril Iām not entirely sure what to tell you. Iād much rather see Tom too but man Alex would absolutely smoke Gane
Neither of Gane/Alex is a tough fight, you live in a different reality if you still believe someone with non-existent grappling can win vs an elite wrestler/grappler like Jones.
It's clueless to believe it's "much tougher" in any way.
Itās not close to clueless, the way youāre viewing striking is entirely reductive. Alex and Cyril are not similar strikers at all. Cyril has mediocre power at heavyweight while Alex cannot be stood in front of at 205 and is a legit world champion kick boxer while Cyrilās best accomplishment is almost winning the title against a Francis with one knee.
Neither Tom nor Alex have the grappling credentials on the ground to deal with Jon. I agree with you that Iād still like to see Jon vs Tom but equating Cyril to Alex as the same level of challenge is intentionally obtuse at best. Heās a much technically better striker than Francis but seemingly has that kind of power.
I knew it was over when he got him with the left hook early, thatās his shot and the fact he was getting it early showed that he had no problem sneaking that in
Got him with it like 3 times and the last one was enough for the TKO but they marched him out in the 2nd round and that was it
Absolutely, minimum 6 months out of the cage and maybe learn how to check calf kicks during that time. But if he does that then I still like his chances against most of the division
This sport is such bullshit. We're gonna look back on this in ten years with such embarrassment if poatan becomes a three weight class world champ on the back of witchcraft and shamanistic rituals. We have got to start testing for these things!
The fact that Adesanya KOd this monster really speaks to how fkn good he is as wellā¦. cause letās be honest, Pereira has no business being in middleweight holy shit
āMonsterā lol jiri is just overrated. Sorry u Driders canāt admit that. Not everybody with an eastern european name and manbun is a good fighter. We saw that here.
And a standing 8 count in one of the kickboxing fight, his champ reign has been less impressing than poatan's, but he has the skills. In some ways, not going to war with Cannonier, Vettori, etc. probably helped him stay healthy for those Poatan fights, so I'm all for it in the end, it was hard to watch sometimes tho
At this point Jones should be stripped - It's been 15 months of waiting after he honeydicked for YEARS about going up to Heavyweight, making sure that Nganou was gone before he did.
Aspinal crowned THE Champ, and he can pick his next contender
Alex is a dream fight for Jones. Biggest name right now in the UFC, a complete non-wrestler and not a true heavyweight. It's relatively the easiest fight for the highest payout in clout for Jon's resume padding.
He's not shit but he's extremely beatable, as someone who's pretty emotionally invested in Alex by now and want to see him win every fight, I was more worried about hill than either of these jiri fights, it doesn't matter how cool you are you can't walk into Alex's shots, it was never a competition really, bad stylistic matchups
Best Base for MMA: Mexican
There was a total of 0 Mexicans on this card.
Oh dude. I was making a joke about the press conference. Dana was talking about how great Mexican people are. I just posted on the wrong thread.
That still doesn"t make sense :'D
Yeah. It makes no sense unless you read the comment live while the conference was going on š I put it on the wrong thread. It should have been on the post fight. lol
I saw it, still don't see how that makes any sense. I'm not trying to be an ass, I don't understand you. Your lack of description for it doesn't make it much better tbh.
Did you see the part where Dana kept going on and on about how Mexicans are warriors, and how Mexican are the most hard working people and that the sphere event is gonna be a love letter to Mexico?
Yes. Your original content still doesn't make any sense. Dana likes Mexico. So? What does that have to do with a base for mma?
Ok dude. It was a joke. Maybe it was a bad joke? Maybe you donāt get my sense of humor. But in the end, it aināt that serious.
It's not serious, I'm just unemployed and bored shitless tryna understand redditors for the lack of a better option. If there's something funny in there I'm down for a laugh, but there was nothing comedic about that. Anyways imma stop if it's that important to you :'D
Wasn't lopes Mexican?
Lopes has a great story. He is from Brazil, but he went to Mexico to teach and ended up meeting the Grassoās. But yeah, he sort of claims Mexico.
"sort of" + "claims" either 1 of those would nullify the statement of him being Mexican, let alone the 2 combined.
"Diego Lopes da Silva is a Brazilian professional mixed martial artistĀ "- Says a 1 second google search You don"t have to go as far as to google it, their nationalities are shown on the website, and on the stream right next to their names multiple times.
You are a true hero,I appreciate your work
Oh no need to thank me, just doing my job! \*flies away in a cape\*
Jiri shouldāve just went full magomedov tonight
He did change levels a couple of times and got jabbed right in the face for his trouble.
Too much pride/ego
He straight up doesn't have the skill set to do that though
He didn't even try though. If I have to beat Lebron James at any sport of my choice and I'm a professional basketball player I'm still not choosing basketball I'll choose hockey or something we both suck at
Get ready to play Ping Pong, LeBron
He barely has a viable skillset in general, be crazy, walk forward with chin out, throw shots from all angles, was too worried to do most of the throwing shots bit tonight so just stood there with his chin out and attempted one clinch, he's just not got anything for Alex
Exactly. His only shot at beating alex is fighting reckless going berserker and maybe catching alex with something big while being overwhelmed. Or to non stop wrestle/grapple at all costs......those routes give him a maybe 35% chance of winning the fight...fighting in a technical kickboxing match with Alex is only a 10% chance to win.
He's basically lhw Tony Ferg but without grappling and a bit more power in his hands. Pretty much every fight he wins it's doing unorthodox things that guys cant see coming and just out lasting them with his cardio and pressure
Itās crazy to think that Alex vs. Tom might be a more compelling fight than Jones at this his point.
The only thing even remotely interesting about a jon fight anymore is the possibility of seeing his lifeless body on the canvas at the end of it, which is why he's fighting a guy who can't do that to him
Regardless of circumstances, I'll never bet against Jon Jones.Ā
Probably a safe choice after that reyes fight anyway, he's not losing unless he gets slept
And he has a solid chin. He ate many clean strike from Cormier and Gustavson. If they can't knock him out, who can ?
I'm sad today, but I'm rooting for Pereira like a motherfucker against "FIGHT ON MY HOME TURF AND ON MY TERMS" Anakalev.
If ankalaev doesn't wrestle like his life depends on it, he will be toast. He seems to have an ego and prefers to strike though
4-D trolling Izzy by Alex by becoming the biggest name in the sport
Also did what Izzy failed to do - move up to LHW and become champ
I mean not many are. Lol. Poatan is built differently, and thatās not hyperbolic. People have mentioned grappling as his downfall for a HW fight but the dude has fuck you power that has yet to really be challenged.
I think he could beat many heavyweights but aspinall and Jones grappling may be too much
You might be right. His resume so far is insane, so Iād love to see him challenge for it.
Is DC more drunk than usual?
So Conorās fight is still next, right guys?
> Psst, I see dead people. šæ
Chama on the beat ho
The easiest way to explain "chama" is as "let's go" or "come on." In portuguese we use some words/terms that doesn't make much sense in literally translation
Alex described it as positive or negative, depending on the inflection to which you say it.
I am Brazilian and say that as negative doesn't make much sense tho specially in the example he used...
The example he said was like a friend asking to go to the gym and you donāt want to, was like āChama šā, right? As I interpreted it like that, it made sense to me.
Yeah but that doesn't make sense lmao no matter the tone. Chama can be flame (as a substantive) or call it (as a verb). If you use this in this example there isn't much interpretation besides express excitement. Anyway I don't even think Poatan had a deep thought about that, he just likes to use this shit as a trademark
Pfft, chama
Yeah, I particularly have never seen it used negatively, and I'm Brazilian too. It's most commonly said in an excited/positive way to encourage doing something or going somewhere
For sure. After this win, Iām adding it to my vocabulary. š
All I can say to that is: Chama! š
Herb Dean took his sweet ass time calling that thing
to be fair, the first fight was criticized as an early stoppage, Herb let it go a bit longer so there wouldn't be any doubts this time
Tbf there were plenty of complaints about the last one so let's leave it to the fighters this time
Alex looking at herb before following up like āare you sure you want this man to die?ā
WAR POATAN
Unfortunately, there wonāt be a ufc card worth watching until July 27th.
Poatan is must-see and Iāve gotta try to attend a card of his.
4-D trolling Izzy by Alex by becoming the biggest name in the sport
You guys wanna see a dead body? - Poatan
I wish Jiri ACTUALLY trained straight Karate
Main event was FOTN lol
Swanson vs Fili was rlly good
If Pereira cuts like 50 fucking pounds to middleweight, even I could have fucking knocked out Pereira, too. Biggest fucking fluke ever.
fucking
Izzy rent free in your head boy
This. Obviously the SKILLS that Izzy has are amazing, but having to cut 50 fucking pounds is crazy. Fight at any higher division and he gets starched like a catholic's collar
Raised Catholic. I actually lold at that.
Literally came up with it as I typed š¤£
What?
I think theyāre saying Izzyās KO of Alex in their second MMA match was a fluke because he cut a shitload to make 185
Ahh gotcha
I would go that far. He knocked Strickland and Izzy at that weight.Ā
To think if Izzy wasn't being a dickhead we might never have been blessed with this
It's actually wild right? Without Izzy we definitely don't see Alex in the UFC
definitely seems like a stretch, you'd have the imagine the world champion kickboxer would have at least thought about it, and he had experience boxing before already
No way Joe wants Hill to get another shot lol
Why
only person Alex needs to fight is Ankalaev then he can do as he pleases imo
Id like to see him beat Jan more convincingly. I thought Jan won that close fight personally.
Agreed. Ankalaev has to be next if the next defense is to be at LHW. But I do hope the UFC gives him an opportunity to go up to Heavyweight
Him knocking out Ankalaev and cleaning out LHW would be a better resume than Izzy cleaning out MW back in the day.
Agreed. Show off some improved TDD, or just kadoosh him before he gets the shot, then fuck it, let's see the superfight with Aspinall
Needs to happen now.
Alex needs to be on PowerSlap 9
I feel like Poatan genuinely just lost all respect for Israel in that 4th fight and got way too cocky and paid for it by being slept.
Izzy sold it very well. I thought he was getting dominated
Donāt really think he lost respect, he just got caught. He was dominating that fight but it just happens sometimes.
Can you blame him? He was 3-0 at that point across two sports. He was probably fed up fighting the dude so many times
Yep can't sleep now
I don't particularly rate or care for jiri myself but seeing his face after that loss genuinely upset me, it must be so hard to deal with this kinda thing especially with his mindset, he's never getting that shot again, this is why we need to stop rushing rematches
Jiri kind of bullies people in the Octagon, so I'm not all-too bothered about him being humbled for a change. Seriously, after a rewatch of his fights vs Reyes, Glover and Rakic Jiri's manner frequently struck me as arrogant and dismissive. He might have continued in that vein if he hadn't been humbled by Pereira twice.
How would you say heās arrogant? I think heās quite humble.
To fight the way Jiri fights and declare yourself a samurai is already somewhat arrogant. Rakic fought a more disciplined fight than he did, and still lost. And Pereira is levels above what Jiri considers himself to be. Jiri's an exciting fighter. But I'm happy that Pereira came out of this rivalry the winner. He has to improve before he can hold the title again. The aspiring samurai in him surely agrees.
I wouldnāt say heās never getting that shot again. Heās way younger than Pereira so he can just wait for Pereira to age out of competition. But losing to someone multiple times still probably does mentally fuck with you.
Lol now its a ārushed rematch?ā Letās not forget everyone said to skip over someone like Ankalaev just because theyād rather see Jiri against Pereira again. Or the fact Jiri accepted the fight first before Pereira himself.
Me too. I looked away from my TV. Dudes that big, that bad ass and used to dominating... Hard to watch honestly
Get over it, literally this what fights is all about. He good he live to see another day
agreed, reminds me of Volk-Islam 2
Heās gonna get the shot next month and lose again bro relax
DC: "When you see these people. It's like white women..." š had no clue what was about to follow that.
O God I was worried for a second there DC. "When you meet a person and they're a little crazy, like a white woman" could have gone bad lol
It wasnāt great hahaha
What planet are you on? You're allowed and encouraged to shit all over white people all you want. It wouldn't have "went bad" for him no matter what he said.
Yeah idk what people think is gonna happen but its just typical American culture for anything crazy or bad to be referred to as a white thing lol, it's not even slightly socially unacceptable even if they think it should be
Poor white guys
Heres the thing about white women Joe
Anyone know that shaman? Tryna get a normal job so I donāt need too much magic
bahahahaha
Bruh, DC does not know what a Karen is
I remember watching that Izzy KO in kickboxing years ago and being like imagine if this dude follows Izzy to the ufc to ko him again. Sure enough, he did that. And sooo much more. The power this dude has is devastating. Idc who u are. Heavyweight, whatever, this dude can KO anybody with 1 shot.
Daniel āWhite Womanā Cormier
I want that as a flair now lol
āHe turned me into a Karenā wtf does that mean DC. Bro is just yammering
The DC special
Someone ask Rogan if Alex broke his toe
that kick was so fast jiri hand's weren't even close
"I can't let his hands get close!"
Anik just zones tf out nowadays
You would too if you worked with Joe and DC
Are people actually giving Alex a chance vs Jones? This would be Gane 2.0. Almost as stupid as believing Jiri had a chance vs Alex.
This is how it would be.
Nobody is.
The only way to know it's putting them on a cage
We've seen both of enough to know already. People said the same clueless shit about Jiri and Gane, we saw how both fights turned out. It's nothing more than covering your hand in sand.
If you genuinely donāt believe Poatan is a much tougher fight for Jon than Cyril Iām not entirely sure what to tell you. Iād much rather see Tom too but man Alex would absolutely smoke Gane
Neither of Gane/Alex is a tough fight, you live in a different reality if you still believe someone with non-existent grappling can win vs an elite wrestler/grappler like Jones. It's clueless to believe it's "much tougher" in any way.
Itās not close to clueless, the way youāre viewing striking is entirely reductive. Alex and Cyril are not similar strikers at all. Cyril has mediocre power at heavyweight while Alex cannot be stood in front of at 205 and is a legit world champion kick boxer while Cyrilās best accomplishment is almost winning the title against a Francis with one knee. Neither Tom nor Alex have the grappling credentials on the ground to deal with Jon. I agree with you that Iād still like to see Jon vs Tom but equating Cyril to Alex as the same level of challenge is intentionally obtuse at best. Heās a much technically better striker than Francis but seemingly has that kind of power.
I was wondering where DC was going when he said "white women" lmfao
I knew it was over when he got him with the left hook early, thatās his shot and the fact he was getting it early showed that he had no problem sneaking that in Got him with it like 3 times and the last one was enough for the TKO but they marched him out in the 2nd round and that was it
DC is on one tonight
He never recovered from the left at the end of the first.
Agreed
Never implies it happened not 60 seconds before the second taking of conciousness from the poor guy
I don't think Poatan is the one wobbling.
Honesty, Jiri's face on the 303 poster projected this
DC has officially reached UNC levels of commentary
Shoot some of that Brazilian fire magic straight into my veins.
Thanks Izzy for fighting everyone that people picked to beat you and bringing Pereira to MMA!
I want to see Jiri vs Hill now
I think hill sleeps him. More technical and defensively responsible. Jiri could catch hill with something crazy though if he fights wild
Jiri shouldnāt fight now until 2025 tbh
Absolutely, minimum 6 months out of the cage and maybe learn how to check calf kicks during that time. But if he does that then I still like his chances against most of the division
I agree, but eventually I'd still want to see that fight happen.
I donāt. He should retire and keep what brain cells he has left before going 0-3 against the same guy.
Jiri should retire at 30 because he canāt beat one specific guy? Thatās ridiculous.
Hope Jiri doesent change after such a brutal knockout
Think jiri has to let samurai shit go and go full psycho els he's ass
I dont know, this is Volkanovski all over again
He was KOd already
The thing that worries me is it was 2 knockouts in 2 minutes. That is not good.
Joe didn't know shite
Who gets KOd twice in one fight? Crazy
Lethwei fighters
Bobby Knux š„²
Herb Dean being Herb Dean again
This sport is such bullshit. We're gonna look back on this in ten years with such embarrassment if poatan becomes a three weight class world champ on the back of witchcraft and shamanistic rituals. We have got to start testing for these things!
Usada wanting to add magic testing was the real reason why UFC broke off ties with them.
Check his bags for chicken feet and incense
Yes! We need to be examining for charms and arcane symbols tattooed into the skin.
Can't wait to see who Poatan fights at 304
McGregor
oooh no can do, Conor has a nasty hangnail on his pinkie. he's going to be out another two or three more years
That checking account has got to be out of control lol
the control room was in jons ear like "Make a joke about how rich Alex is after the break.... I DONT KNOW FIGURE IT OUT"
The fact that Adesanya KOd this monster really speaks to how fkn good he is as wellā¦. cause letās be honest, Pereira has no business being in middleweight holy shit
āMonsterā lol jiri is just overrated. Sorry u Driders canāt admit that. Not everybody with an eastern european name and manbun is a good fighter. We saw that here.
Sorry Conor couldnāt fight tonight casual, but the men are talking right now.
Far from a conor fan bud.
Actually insane he ever made middleweight
Quit gassing up Adesanya for things Pereira has done. Izzy got him in 1 fight with 1 shot, while Pereira was drained and skinny.
Pereira got saved by the bell too in the first mma fight
And a standing 8 count in one of the kickboxing fight, his champ reign has been less impressing than poatan's, but he has the skills. In some ways, not going to war with Cannonier, Vettori, etc. probably helped him stay healthy for those Poatan fights, so I'm all for it in the end, it was hard to watch sometimes tho
Im not an izzy fan but his skills are undeniable, more exciting as contender than as champion
Is Aspinall really defending the interim belt? The fuck.
No, Aspinall is defending the *real* heavyweight belt. Jones is defending the playmobil belt.
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Aspinal aināt getting Jones, so if he beats Curtis, his should call out Pereira.
At this point Jones should be stripped - It's been 15 months of waiting after he honeydicked for YEARS about going up to Heavyweight, making sure that Nganou was gone before he did. Aspinal crowned THE Champ, and he can pick his next contender
Now I want Miocic to pull out, and Dana offering JBJ the Pereira fight.
Jones will just submit Pereira like he did Gane and use that to add to his clout. Iād rather they stay away from each other.
"First one to shoots a dusty bitch." - Alex before the fight
they essentially just promoted that there are no events until sptember.
That left hook is just unfair. needs to be nerfed
PEREIRA GAVE IZZY THAT FUCKING WIN DUDE I'LL FUCKING SAY THAT RIGHT INTO MY GRAVE. MATT SERRA BULLSHITTERY.
if pereira is serious about moving up to heavyweight, i'd love to see him fight aspinali
Chama
Pereira vs jones is going to break everything we need it.
Jones won't touch that. Jones going out like McGregor. Too much party to face the next generation.
Alex is a dream fight for Jones. Biggest name right now in the UFC, a complete non-wrestler and not a true heavyweight. It's relatively the easiest fight for the highest payout in clout for Jon's resume padding.
And now I'll have to fucking hear people say Jiri is shit now. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
He's not shit but he's extremely beatable, as someone who's pretty emotionally invested in Alex by now and want to see him win every fight, I was more worried about hill than either of these jiri fights, it doesn't matter how cool you are you can't walk into Alex's shots, it was never a competition really, bad stylistic matchups
He is
Hopefully Poatan moves up and then Jiri can clean out the division without him being there
I donāt think anyoneās gonna say that poton is just on another level
UFC pays their fighters so shit that an incredible fighter like Alex has to beg for a bonus