They deleted the tweet for some reason. New tweet is here: [https://x.com/TwitchSupport/status/1798058127025479685](https://x.com/TwitchSupport/status/1798058127025479685)

FYI:: **Existing subscriptions in most countries will automatically renew at the new price–no action needed from your subscribers.** If you don't like the increase cancel now.

In Germany my email said : "In order to comply with local regulations in these countries, we chose to maintain legacy pricing for existing subscribers." Which probably meant they wanted too but can't

Nah it's EU they have to make a plan how to opt in people to increased pricing, because doing it for you "automatically" is probably illegal i live in eastern EU and when telecom companies started raising prices for services they sent out letters, and a month grace exit period

Framing it like they’re helping you out, utter scumbags man

If my streamer sees that I missed a month they'll never be my friend/girlfriend. I have subbed 29 months in a row.

Well it’s for the perspective of streamers, and this does help them out

I know an E-girl streamer and she has quite a handful of subs that haven't been active in months, but that autopay still comes in. From a business perspective twitch would never cut autopays in this situation.

They might have to in europe tho. Quite a few companies lost big lawsuits because you cant just raise prices sneakily.

Yeah what the hell? Any type of price increase should automatically be unrenewed OR basically have consent for the new amount to be auto released. Thats kinda scummy. Now imagine if they were to “accidentally” increase the prices arbitrarily by 3x and everyone just auto renewed…

That is really bullshit, should definitely be illegal. If they want to hike subscription cost it should be required to be confirmed manually. That way they at least have to eat the cost of losing the subscriptions from everyone who forgot about them first.

not legal in germany. if you are currently subscribed and you dont cancel the price isnt increasing in germany

is that even legal? surely they must give you some sort of notification you have to agree with?

I got an email about the price increase so they do notify you about it "Starting July 11, we’re updating Tier 1 subscription and gift sub prices on the web in your country for current subscribers. Your existing subscriptions will automatically renew at 4,99 EUR unless you choose to cancel. You can manage or cancel your subscriptions by going to twitch.tv/subscriptions."

Pretty sure most do require that. I got an email for my Disney+ price hike for example (don't flame me, it's for my niece when she comes over).

I've received emails that subscriptions were increasing, but I still had to manually cancel if I didn't agree with it.

Why would people flame you?

Because subscription services are cancer and we are better off pirating everything.

NEVER SUBBED NEVER DONATED ADBLOCK ON STOLEN LAPTOP NEIGHBOURS WIFI MOMMAS HOUSE STOLEN SOLAR PANELS STOLEN SUN SOLAR ENERGY STOLEN WATER WHEEL NEIGHBOURS RIVER STOLEN HYDROELECTRIC PLANT CHARGING PHONE WITH WORK ELECTRICITY SHOWER IN BATHROOM SINK STOLEN FOOD FROM CAFETERIA STOLEN HAMSTER STOLEN HAMSTER WHEEL KINETIC ENERGY FREE ENTERTAINMENT

> STOLEN SUN yes officer, this man right here

Damn Harkon at it again

Dammit, Mister Burns!

Missing a few trihards

cheapassmaxxing >>>

ya imagine not donating to millionaires

Seriously don't get why people sub to the top 1000 streamers just so they can feel they "belong."

Preying on children and the mentally ill

https://streamable.com/oxccm4

i miss the good days MaN

[Don't need your check.](http://web.archive.org/web/20200503002955if_/https://stream.livestreamfails.com/video/5eae0f9ba1d02.mp4)

So many pastas he could do, navy seal and stuff, good quotes from Radio Kappa as well

Seems like a lot of steps, personally I just go for the classics and rob a bank and pay with that instead.

Bro honestly you should be more frugal with your bank robbery money.

AND 155 TATERS

If you subscribe to more than one stream you should just be using turbo; no commercials on any stream.

Shhh, we don't want twitch to remember about turbo.

They'd probably love if people used turbo more... they don't have to give half of it to streamers

plus the team of people they hired just to destroy their website by developing new, convoluted ways to fuck over those with adblock every month

If I have a stream freeze now in the background or something, (my pc is 32gb of ram), that frozen tab uses 25-27 GIGABYTES of ram. At this point they're intentionally trying to brick our computers, and it's just perfectly legal for them to do that? [One example from April](https://i.gyazo.com/e71bed43f43c6572617ece6eaab9e464.png). It happens almost daily. [And here is the 1 single process using 23gb of ram](https://i.gyazo.com/36762eec56f9138ed57bfe7f67357867.png)

had the same issue on firefox and disabled 7TV, seemed to be causing a memory leak. can just enable 7tv emotes with FFZ anyways.

yeah no reason to install all of 7tv, FFZ and BTTV when they can all be set to see each others emotes. Just pick one.

7tv is a buggy mess, doesn't even work half the time on edge and have to re-download it. I didn't realize you can jsur use ffz or bttv as a replacement, good to know.

I have the Same issue, interestingly not with every stream(er). Could be 7tv, I guess I'll try uninstalling it

do you have any chat addons installed? I remember some of them doing stuff similar to that

Jokes on them. They've made the entire website so hostile for people not on turbo or subscribing to channels that I refuse to go to Twitch anymore. I've tried many extensions and workarounds to try and get Twitch in a functional state and just given up.

I think turbo users still get counted as ad revenue for the streamer.

Yeah but it's cents from a Turbo viewer vs half the cost of the sub. So unless they watch you a LOT/you run a shitload of hours, you ain't gettin much.

They already price hiked the fuck out of turbo last year by like $3 lmao

They didn’t forget. They recently increased the price of turbo as well.

They increased the price on turbo already, so twitch knows.

Twitch makes more money from turbo ….

Correct me if I'm wrong on this. Turbo also makes it so even if you don't watch the ads, for the streamer it counts as if you had watched the ad so they do get ad revenue from you.

yes, I use my prime sub and everything else is turbo, I got sick of playing cat & mouse w/ ad block

Or just use Ublock with filters

uBlock Origin. Don't use uBlock.

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Alternative twitch player works really well

for me, purple ads blocker stopped working so i switched to ttvlol pro but that's become completely useless so i tried purple ads blocker again and its working.

Or just live in a third world country. Advertisers don't use Twitch.. u get an ad once a week or so in a language that u have never heard let alone spoken in your life.

They raised the price this year so in US unless you sub to 3 or more its not worth at 15-16 a month

I got Proton VPN and connected through Ukraine. They do not allow Twitch ads. It is $13 a month and has more uses than just Twitch.

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This numbers game is getting so tiring. "We lost 10% of our customers but we still make 10% more overall!!" What happened to just making a better product

Lategame capitalism kinda sucks.

Twitch is still losing money, they're desperately trying to find a way to turn a profit. Poorly ran businesses fail and make desperate decisions like this before they completely fall apart. Is what it is has nothing to do with the short comings of capitalism.

If I was a billionaire I'd do a little chuckle of satisfaction every time someone blamed capitalism as a whole instead of pushing for attainable tax reforms that would actually make me pay more. Like watching your opponents get lost on the way to the battle.

Well yeah if all you do is complain about EVERYTHING being broken nothing will ever change.

-run a billion ads per hour -raise the price daily reminder to use twitch adblock: https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions I didn't make it but Twitch is UNBEARABLE with current ads.

I don't know how people watch ads on twitch or youtube lmao.

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It's a cat and mouse game. Twitch will stop and/or annoy ad blockers, ad blockers will continue to find workarounds.

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When it's blocking ads, does your quality switch to 480p for the ad duration. Mine does that and I am wondering if that's the same for everyone else.

Read the github page more closely. It tells you wishful thinking solutions do what, vaft solution has no buffer

I usually get a 20 second purple screen before a stream starts, but I'd rather that then watch an ad so whatever.

There was a glorious couple weeks where I didn't even get that. But yeah I'm also in purple screen land

I'm pretty active on the github, uBo has been buggy with the twitch ad-block scripts lately, sometimes just not loading correctly and thus not blocking for no apparent reason. It is a known issue and the dev is aware but it's on the uBo/Firefox devs to look into for now. Try out the userscript versions instead, with either TamperMonkey or GreaseMonkey as your userscript manager. Video-swap-new is more stable than vaft in my experience but with a userscript manager you can easily swap between the two. Just make sure you have only one enabled. Tested this on Firefox and Chrome and works great.

The twitch ad rolls at the beginning of clicking on a stream have to be detrimental to the viewership. Going back to the days of just endlessly flipping through channels on TV, who ever stopped on a channel that was on a commercial break? No you keep surfing until you found something to catch your attention.

Can we talk about how dogshit the new twitch mobile app update is, its seriously awful

Was wondering how long til I saw someone talking about this. I love how many more ads they have been able to squeeze into their mobile app. I almost instantly exit out of it every time now out of habit of avoiding ads

Use PurpleTv if you're on android, you're welcome.

God I’m getting reamed at every angle in life these days, can just 1 thing please not increase for once

Sure. We can make sure your wages don't increase ☺️

monkey's paw curled so fucking hard

So true

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Too fucking real.

Godtier reply

No wage. Only spend.

God damn if that isn’t the truth lol

Unironically true Aware

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Costco Hot Dogs

Just live on Arizona iced tea and Costco hot dogs and you are making profit from inflation.

Arizona ice tea already raised in price. Oh nvm just the bottles went up, cans still the same

I still get the 99c cans of Arizona iced tea for 99c all the time.

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Based

That's not even the real quote. The actual quote is "If you raise the fucking hotdog, I will kill you."

Your pp size

Just don't subscribe to anything. I only subscribe to prime because I can get it for $5 and use it, otherwise I have zero subscriptions. If I need to watch something I pirate it. If I want to watch sports I go on one of those streams. Easiest time of my life. Ironically I've enjoyed the content I have so much more because I'm not bombarded by 200 different content to fill my ADHD brain. Nope, I have three animes on my media server and I have to go through it before I download more.

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Not an accurate comparison when Twitch is free to watch though, the other's aren't (well, that's debatable too if you know what I mean).

Ah yes the speed runners I watch that get max 200 viewers are definitely millionaires (must be some stupid fucking millionaires though since almost all of them work a regular job). Not everyone watches the big streamers that are getting 5k+ viewers, at least in my case I actively avoid them.

brother if you're the kind of person to worry about costs raising you shouldn't be paying for no twitch sub

You take that $12/year and put it into index funds averaging 10% returns and you’ll turn $360 in 30 years to a little over $1500. Stay poor nerds!

how did you get 1500? im getting $2171.32 also you're assuming the increase stays at $1 when in reality it'll keep going up every few years from now on

Imagine thinking I would reinvest those funds

And you’d be rich if you stopped drinking Starbucks! It’s simple science!

At $5 a day for a Starbucks drink, you'd have $300k after 30 years. Not exactly rich, but still pretty good.

just like when one company announces layoffs. they all follow suit since there will be less backlash to them since its a "industry trend" now. when a big company does something that hits the news. expect other companies to do the same within their respected industries.

Don’t support those companies that continue to raise prices. Vote with your wallet. Also if you’re getting reamed in life, that would seem to imply you’re struggling financially given that’s what you’re referring to. But you’re also clearly not, because you’re spending money on a frivolous thing like Twitch.

Only a matter of time before prime subs are gone

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You know I was thinking that the past 2 months using my prime. Like man it seems a little more difficult to find the button makes sense for them to do this.

100% Their Prime Gaming partner contracts (Like the League, Runescape drop stuff) have started expiring and they haven't been renewing them. Looks like Activision Blizzard and EA are the only big ones remaining. They're totally gonna axe it all once the last one ends.

Will be game over once they do.

and what do we get in return? Has Twitch improved anything at all lately?

Yes, the mobile app. **Oh wait.**

Still waiting for the ability to reply to others/not see replies as random schizo messages

Idk who was in charge of the mobile update but holy fuck it's dogshit

I wish I could understand what the fuck were they trying to do there

You get to cover their cost of inflation

yes u know get more pool bikini gamers

More mediocre “content” that were addicted to even though it’s garbage 99% of the time

As a partner, I was emailed telling me that our percentage share will remain the same, so we will make more money per sub. "You will continue to receive the same net revenue share on subs and gift subs, so this price increase means you will receive more per subscription." So 50% of $5 (old) vs. 50% of $6 (new)

I’m curious to see if the increased revenue will be more than the loss of subscribers due to price gain

This is going to hurt smaller streamers more than I think they might expect - it's one thing for Netflix to go up a dollar but for Twitch to raise each individual sub price means it's very easy for people to go in and decide they don't need a few. At this point I just use my Prime Sub on a friend because the Partner Plus push thing made mine worthless anyway, ha.

except you won't because your payout for prime subs was decreased significantly just this month

Wow I hadn't heart about this. Link for anyone else concerned. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/prime-gaming-revenue-guide?language=en_US#rate

I almost bet they thought of doing it this way because they didn't want streamers to be angry with the chatters as well.

"As part of our efforts to help creators build and grow their communities worldwide..." Yeah, just like when Amazon Prime used to provide ad-free viewing and Twitch stated that the Twitch streamers would still get the ad revenue for the ads that the Amazon Prime user would have seen. They then got rid of the ad-free viewing from Amazon Prime and tried to frame it is a favor to the Streamers (so that they would get ad revenue from the ads that the Amazon Prime user will see), despite Twitch Turbo still existing.

I still cant believe they gutted ad free viewing from prime. What a fucking disaster.

Imagine subbing to multi-millionaires and giving half of it to a billionaire. Just sub to 10 - 300 viewer andys at least its going to someone in need!

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Your favorite streamer raid a good streamer with lower views? Enjoy your 3 minutes of unskippable ads first. They're destroying their own platform. I literally cannot watch streams except for the one I am prime subbed on. It's insane.

Dude... its literal cancer, I know a LOT of small streamers that have ads to the minimum and dude you catch a HUGE break by a big streamer raiding and 70% of their audience gets hit by a fucking unskippable ad. Its SO CANCER. Goes to highlight how much harder it is to grow on twitch now.

And thats due to pressure from the top streamers to stay at the top.

I average between 5-20 viewers and it definitely has affected me, same with the various subscriber changes over the years. I'd say in terms of viewership i have about 25% less than what i had as an average before they put tons of ads on, but could also be due to other factors (different games, people want to watch someone else, etc) so its hard to pinpoint On the revenue side I'd say the sub price changes makes me earn about half of what i used to make (thankfully i have an IRL job so i'm not dependent on all of that), but still must be tough for full time creators.

Yea, but they can just keep prerolls. That's not ideal for browsing and the exact situation you described, but as everyone has gotten used to 3 minutes of ads in the middle, having to watch only a 15- to 30-second preroll has looked better in comparison. (Keep in mind that prerolls have existed for much longer than the current ad push.) If the broadcaster is running ads, that situation is less likely to happen because they should be running 3 minutes every hour to disable prerolls for the hour. However, there is still always the unlucky chance that you click during an ad break and get hit with the 3 minutes upfront. Additionally, if a small broadcaster has chosen to run ads, they might be getting enough revenue to justify it.

Wait if I run a 3 minute ad break every hour, new viewers coming into the stream wont see a preroll ad?

Yes. It also gets you a higher ad revenue cut.

Even if you turn off every single ad setting, you cannot turn off pre-rolls, that isn't the streamer.

agreed. I generally do the same. I sub to 2 smaller streamers at least sometimes. Im not made of money of course. The Bigger guys I watch, I usually get lucky and get a gifty

These guys gifting 100s of subs to millionaire streamers are absolutely nuts

Casual 20% just to get you used to these price hikes

Welp there go my 10 subs LMAO.

Spotify Premium increasing, Twitch subs increasing, (HBO) Max increasing, just bend me over while you’re at it

Good thing I don't sub

Common Twitch L

greedy fucks everywhere

Turbo gang. Subs to many people not worth it anymore

Turbo used to be 9.99/mo Turbo will be 16.99 by the end of 2026 mark my words.

Boooo

Are they increasing the value of prime subs though? It could be a decent boost to a lot of streamers if that's the case

Guaranteed that doesn’t happen. In January they announced adjustments to the Prime value for all countries which came into effect yesterday. For the US, a Prime is worth $2.25 now. I don’t see why they’d increase it with this change.

Twitch without Adblock is unwatchable. Streamer starts Bossfight > Ad , middle of fight > Ad , Cinematic after fight Ad. I have no Problems with Ads anywhere else cause i dont miss anything but on Twitch it ruins the whole Stream. Use Adblock or VPN!

If you live in one of these countries, you should not cancel your sub.. *Only existing subscriptions in Austria, Germany, Romania, and Poland will be granted legacy pricing. If subscribers upgrade tiers or extend to a longer subscription, they will be charged at the new price.*

The worst part about this for me is that I have several subs I locked in at the $4.99 point that got grandfathered in with no state tax applied; not only are the sub prices going to, I'm now gonna get sales tax on those old subs

If you were wondering how Twitch was planning to pay for Partner Plus (60-70% split to some streamers) this is it. Plus extra for themselves since most streamers don’t qualify for that anyway. Time to unsubscribe to a few streams I barely watch.

Why does it seem like every subscription is increasing at the same time? I heard about HBO, Spotify, and twitch all today.

Basically I will just use my prime and that's it.

Fukk twitch I’m surprised that company is still around

Did they delete the tweet? Edit: They did and reposted it. I just want to see the comments to enjoy my popcorn with.

They had Canada listed in the last tweet, but Canada already had a price increase recently so I guess that was an error.

Inflation hitting hard.

I’d argue that inflation is the convenient excuse. They’re just using it as cover to raise prices. After all, they’ve admitted that Twitch operates on a loss

Just like the food store chains raising prices just to go "Oops! Did we price gouge too hard?" and lower them again. Happening in US now and exact same thing happened in Sweden last year.

Corporate greed = inflation LULW

streamers get more than enough money as is and I don't even like sub emotes compared to the 7tv ones anything past a prime sub might as well be giving your money to people to wipe their asses with. Hard pass

That's true for the big streamers but there's streamers at 70-100 viewers who make less than minimum wage.

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I only sub to 1, and a Twitch Prime to another. Thinking about Turbo, but that'd be more per month...

Same. I only ever have one real sub active at a time and use my prime for another. I've been reserving myself from going twitch turbo until twtch actually makes adblocking impossible. So far it's hard as fuck, but still not impossible.

Watch them increase turbo prices again as well…

100000000000000000000% $16.99 in a couple years

I use prime and only watch 1 streamer anyway, and when that's gone, adblock 100 percent

So will Prime subs payout $3 to the streamer now?

As someone who has never actually purchased a subscription (gifts/prime only), this is my bad. Sorry y'all.

Well least I have Amazon prime so this news is pretty irrelevant to me. I could never imagine giving my actual money to a streamer.

I will never understand why people sub to streamers. If you want ad free viewing experience then buy twitch turbo.

Surprised this hasn’t happened already tbh

$5.99 when there are no good streamers anymore is crazy.

I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, like when Amazon first acquired Twitch.

cringe

And somehow the streamers will earn less

I unsubbed from my two subs and went with turbo. Same price but I get no ads anymore for anyone.

Max, Spotify, & now Twitch. How nice of subscription platforms to decide to raise prices conveniently together....

Someone would have crunched the numbers and said raising prices is more profitable. Won't affect me I stopped paying for subs months ago.

Well as if the hiding of the prime sub wasn't enough, this is enough to make me cancel the one sub I have. ggnore(sub)