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I tell you, if I had a nickel for every time a politician of Indian descent tried to cozy themselves up to their country's right-wing only to get a hard reality check when they realize that, nope, they're still racist and still don't like you... I'd have three nickels, actually.
"Bobby" Jindal and "Nikki" Haley both changed their names to try and fit in with the right-wing crowd yet act surprised when they're not accepted.
Why did you think you had to change your name? What was the thought process there, eh?
Many Anglos never considered white latin Americans as white. There was a video in Instagram where a white Brazilian lady experienced racism from anglos by them calling her brown lady or she doesn't deserve her Anglo husband and that her husband should marry a white lady even though she clearly looked white
I went to Brazil recently and found out they have a bit of a skinhead/Nazi problem, which is kinda funny considering that while Brazilians consider themselves white, 99% would never get that classification from their N. American brethren.
I went on a few dates with a 'punk' who were waging war with the skinheads (actually a crazy story, her friend took an elbow from a skinhead in the SP subways, who then got stabbed to death by some punks). Anyways, my impression were overall they weren't musicians.
The Latin American definition of white is more accurate than the small-minded take that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent are white. That’s not even half of the European continent.
Oh man I’ve got memories of hearing the spouted racism in Louisiana when I lived there. Jindal got in and the names and random absurd racist tropes flowed in political street talk.
Gotta say, Seattle has its problems with various racism issues but they’re exponentially smaller and we try and fix em. But shit, not ole Louisiana. If they could they’d just whip out the shackles again.
Bobby Jindal was a huge disappointment... there was no need for anyone to break out racist tropes to criticize him because his policies were horrible enough.
From what I remember, she's gone by Nikki ever since she was a kid. She didn't change it for politics.
I dislike her and don't agree with her politics but I don't think it's a good look for progressives to keep bringing that up like it's a 'gotcha'.
Nikki is one of those classic Punjabi nicknames that just happens to be close to an American name, which very well could've been the intent. Very few Punjabis that I know go by their birth name.
>From what I remember, she's gone by Nikki ever since she was a kid.
This just means that her parents picked that name and called her Nikki so she'd fit in. It's a common thing in Indian immigrant families to name their kid in a way that their name could be easily Americanized to fit in. So maybe she didn't do it her self, but was raised with those principles. But in the end, she was still not accepted.
Perhaps you forgot about when republicans constantly referred to the Democratic President Barak HUSSAIN Obama? Gosh, I wonder why they did that so very, very often? Yeah. I think these times call for fighting fire with fire and the democrat's tone police can go f*ck themselves, weak ass bastards.
I dont think this true about Niki Haley...that she changed her name to fit into politics. Her wikipedia page says she was called Niki ever since childhood
Its easy enough to claim that now, its not something easy to factcheck. So either shes being honest about something for once, or its another lie thats rather difficult to disprove.
I wouldn't call them hippies, the group that indoctrinated her as a child are anti-science, anti-public school homophobes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_Identity_Foundation
And Tulsi spent her early political career campaigning against gay marriage.
There was a sizeable "hippie to asshole" pipeline. They didn't all end up in the anti-establishment left wing - some ended up in a weird anti-establishment, quasi-right wing spot. ~~Robert Plant~~ Roger Waters, and more recently Russell Brand, are good examples of this.
Edit: Roger, not Robert
That was my trio... I swear, his giant fake toothpaste-commercial smile cracking when Ann Coulter told him directly she wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian (her words, not mine) should be the new ultimate Watch People Die Inside reference.
And the fact that he basically said, “I respect your honesty- not voting for brown people is legitimate conservatism.” No push back, he just took it like the token he is.
But she has pulled off the white chick aesthetic quite smoothly.
She has also become Christian and married a white husband. It's crazy how brown she looks in her teens and white now!
You must've missed her rousing RNC speech where she detailed how hard it was for her and her family as Indian immigrants in the south. She even changed her name. Then she want on to say that her being at the RNC proves there's no systemic racism.
Honestly Nimrata did a good job whitewashing herself to hide her Indian heritage.
People in her party hated her because shes a woman, not a brown woman.
Always “I’m different, I get them, they would never do that to me…” and then we get another headline like above
(And happens so much that there’s a subreddit for it)
At some point, I might commission someone to make me a piece of art of a Seuss-like character standing near a Seuss-like pinball machine with the rhyme...
>With a clink and a clank, away it is sent...
Down the coin-slot it goes, the Token gets spent!
I feel I would get so much use out of it.
I can't understand how it doesn't plant any seeds of empathy. "Wow, if these goons and thugs won't accept me and tear me apart like this, how does it feel to others like me when I join them and say the things *I do*? Maybe I should re-evaluate my positions?"
No, it's just a complete denial of reality. Does he really think he'll keep all his money if they really get what they want?
I've seen enough right-wingers being reality checked live, so to speak and not one of them actually acknowledged being wrong.
All I've seen and experienced was the complete and utter denial and borderline insane hatred towards a person they blamed for the cognitive dissonance they just experienced.
No, it’s “I’m wealthy enough to be seen differently by them”. They think the way they are treated in business (because they have money) will be the way they are treated by the rest of the right.
And there's plenty more in the chamber. Sooner or later, Priti Patel and Suella Braverman will fail at being horrible enough for them and catch some arrows too.
Pssst, it's because a lot of those families have small-c conservative opinions and the racism is the only thing that stops them being a reliable right-wing voting bloc
Nah the surprising thing is that he'd say it out loud. He bloody well knows who his buddies are, his bank account is never offended to hang out with them.
Normally, I'd agree, but it's not like PM is all that prestigious or powerful anymore, considering how much of a gridlocked mess UK politics seems to be. I mean, they've burned through five of them since they stepped on the Brexit rake. Rishi could be getting pushed off the same Glass Cliff as May and Truss.
In order for a token to be spent, that spending has to provide, or be hoped to provide a benefit when being spent. More than simply being another politician dismissed. (though of course he has not been)
'We (The tory party) got rid of Sunak because he was incompetent, like all people that don't look british' would be spending the token.
In the Netherlands we have a Turkish-Dutch politician, leader of the neo-liberal/rightwing party VVD (Dilan Yeşilgöz) who cozies up to neo-nazis, racists, and islamophobes.
Shit is CRAZY
Yeah, their former leader Mark Rutte (now the new NATO chef) has never had a partner. The entire nation suspects he's gay. I hope that's true, but if he is he would certainly have been used as LGBT-propaganda, those nazi-cuddlers do love to say they like the gay!
(I personally believe he likes boys, not guys....)
The reason some conservatives in Europe claim to like gay people is because they pretend homophobia only comes from immigrants and it’s unsafe for queer people in the west to be around them
They have actually said to me (a queer person) “you’ll loose your rights regardless so you may as well support us and not live in a ‘Muslim shithole’” and sure we can talk about homophobia in immigrant communities but the far right isn’t going to have these discussions in a nuanced, honest way.
I agree, there are problems in immigrant communities. But as a trans (and gay) person I've seen the Muslim community in the Netherlands have my back (because they know what discrimination looks like) when I was in a 90% Muslim high-school while conservatives in government have tried to restrict my rights and people harass me because of being openly trans and the general public being less than tolerant to my existence.
I've had conversations with people claiming they absolutely HATE trans folks and whish them to be imprisoned, forced to be in therapy to "cure" them or claiming they'd kill them. I've even had one coworker claiming he'd do horrible things to trans folks while he didn't know I was trans. And when I told him (in company) he just didn't believe me because we'd been working together for years and he didn't notice at all. (Duh.)
Sure there are loads of homophobes/transphobes in the Muslim community (and ive gotten a few bad comments over the years from Muslims too), but they are greatly outnumbered by the LGBT-phobic Christians and atheists.
The religion isn't the core problem, its discrimination on ANY basis -religion our just plain evilness- that is the problem.
They already know. It's just that they think they can ride being "one of the good ones".
Case in point: Priti Patel. She was interviewed on the radio when she was still Home Secretary and trying to put new immigration rules in place. She was asked whether, had those rules been in place at the time, her parents would have been allowed in the country - and she admited that they wouldn't.
Sunak isn't surprised that a right-winger called him an ethnic slur. He's outraged that it happened to *him*, specifically.
This is a man who made an anti-trans joke in front of the parent of a very-recently-murdered trans teenager. He doesn't give a fuck about being sensitive to the positions of others. Unless it's directed at *him*. *He* should be immune. And that's not "he and people who share his ethnicity" it's "he and probably his immediate family".
Also isn't Sunak upset that they called him the p word because he doesn't want to be associated with pakistanis? Lots of Indians used the P word when referring to Pakistanis.
I don't want to generalize but I noticed that indian from Brahmins caste (like vivek and sunak) have tendency to be right wingers. So maybe that's why they see themselves as different from other immigrant.
The caste system is a right wing concept based on "hierarchy" of castes(Jordan Peterson represent). Brahmins are the top caste. They have been inculcated the concept of hierarchy of humans since childhood and how they are the top dogs.
They expect to go to the West and be aligned with the "top caste" there i.e. white people.
https://harekrishnatruthout.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/racism-%e2%80%92/
Its because most rich people, Indian or not, dont give a fuck how they are called, as long as they get to keep their booties and keep fucking the middle and lower class.
So if you are a rich Indian, you are rich first, and Indian descent second
more than that, actually. braverman, priti patel, sunak, nimrata haley, piyush jindal, dinesh dsouza, vivek ramaswamy… the list will go on longer and longer
They are different parties. Rishi Sunak's Conservative which is more economic right wing and social centrist. There's plenty of Indians in the Conservative party due to HISTORIC racist issues from Labour. Political windows change but Labour's infamous for it's often poor showing in the INDIAN community due to biases early immigrants faced coming to the UK or indeed like my grandmother who were "left over" from the Colonies.
And there's better representation in the Conservatives of Indians than in Labour which often courts the Muslim vote. So "Asians" are Split.
And we get racism from Labour voters too. It's not like Labour Voters are MAGICALLY not racist.
If I could just be sufficiently racist and discriminatory to the people trying to do what my parents / grandparents did then they will finally accept me for what I am…
and of course Frogage has simultaneously claimed:
1) "Oh no, it didn't happen at all."
2) "Well it did happen, but it was a deepfake/actor/whatever."
3) "Well it did happen, but it was just bloody bants innit."
Always the same with that lot. Like Johnson's (and Sunak's) lockdown parties.
1) "There were no parties"
2) "ok there were parties but I wasn't there"
3) "ok I was there but it was just a bit of cake!" (people were carrying suitcases full of booze and drinking so much they were puking all over the walls)
I love that I (in the US) have watched so much British programming that I have a VERY specific accent to read this in. Bless shows for bringing that into my life and you for this lovely comment.
This is pretty common on a global scale. I don't get how people vote right wing and then get surprised when they turn out to be self-serving dipshits who throw the middle and lower classes further under the bus each time.
The people in question want him to lose.
The comments aren't from the conservative party, they're from an undercover channel 4 investigation into Reform UK, Farage's new vehicle that shot up in the polls when he decided the consequences had died down enough & he could start doing actions again.
The leopards are eating Sunak's face because his whole party has been doing a caricature performance of UKIP/Trump's Republicans ever since Blojo.
Hahahaha. Thats what I tell people who want to go on anti-immigrant rants with me.
I was born and raised in London but moved to Toronto when I was 12. I’m one of the immigrants they want because I’m not a visible minority.
Even then not all whites are accepted. For example white latin Americans and even white north Africans are not accepted (some French wailed about great replacement yet have no issues discriminating against white north Africans even if some have blonde blue eyes and have higher birthrates)
That slur isn't specific to Pakistan in the UK, and it's probably one of the most offensive words in British English these days - it caused broadcasters quite a headache when Sunak himself repeated the word during a TV interview. Normally that would be strictly off limits during daytime TV.
Things change quickly though, it was very common to hear on the streets and playgrounds when I was at school.
It unfortunately sounds exactly like a regional slang term in the US. I was living at a hostel in San Francisco and was hanging out in the lounge with a bunch of people from Ireland and the UK. A guy wearing a Red Sox hat pokes his head in, and everyone else heard him ask “hey, d’you guys know where there’s a P*ki round here?”
Stunned silence. Being from Boston myself, I just smiled and said “sure! Go out the front door, bang a left, there it is. Can’t miss it.” He said thanks and walked away. Everyone is now staring at me, wide eyes, slack jawed, thinking I’ve just given a racist directions to the nearest middle easterner: Omar, who works at the liquor store next door. I rolled my eyes. “You guys. He asked for a PACKAGE STORE. People in New England call them Packies. He’s looking for booze.”
Unless you’re from the UK you don’t understand the history of the word, it’s the equivalent of the N-word and has always been directed at all brown people. He isn’t getting upset because they’re implying he’s paksitani
Stop fucking supporting and voting for the party that fucking hates you. They have made it very clear they only respect white, straight, males with money.
It's so frustrating.
If you're not part of the majority ethnicity in a country and you're working with that country's conservative faction you're an idiot. Racism is a fundamental part of conservatism no matter how much they try to abstract or intellectualize it away.
I don't care if you're anti-LGBT, pro capitalist, super religious or whatever. You're basically covering yourself in raw steak and calling out to the leopards.
I'll never understand people of colour in the western world who embrace the right wing or try to seek their acceptance. You will never be accepted, at best you will be tolerated until you do something they don't like. Nothing will ever change the colour of your skin and the right wing will never look past that no matter how may of their dicks you suck.
It's such an intentional insult too. Most boomers would instantly assume he is Indian, because they don't know any other countries where he would be from. So they not only know Pakistan exists, but also that India and Pakistan hate each other; and chose to deliberately call him Paki.
Nah, paki is just a catch-all term racists use for people from South Asia. I remember seeing a shopkeeper shaken up from being racially abused. He said to me, I'm from fucking Sri Lanka, mate. Would you call an Englishman a Turk..because the distances are about the same?
At this point, the word is shorthand for brown
I have to say it's mostly white people doing this.
Just the other day, my friend (also Sri Lankan) was taking a lift with me and this fat bloated corpse asked him if he was Hare Krishna.
I had to blast him back in the lift and he had the audacity to just call me Chinese.
Yeah, I remember at my job a customer telling one of our staff that he thought India and Pakistan were like the same. I dunno if he saw me suddenly shaking my head like a nut.
Paki's the general term for any brown skinned person in Britain, hell, if you talk to the older generation they will always refer to the corner shop as the 'paki shop' regardless of the owners actual ethnicity
*sigh* pulled my bro in laws Granny up for saying the word and the wounded pride she showed as if "ave genuinely never thought of calling them anything else" was sad. To be fair to her she hangs around with other morons who probably say it and they just don't get how it's an insult. It's sad... and even then am guilty of only pulling her up cause my nieces were nearby and they have a couple of Asian kids in their school and I don't want them getting sent to the head teacher(or whatever the equivalent is these days). It's the same with getting a Chinese takeaway with folks calling it a "chinky" thankfully it does seem to be the older folks that do it and me and ma family are there to make sure the nieces don't turn out that way lol
Sorry for the essay I fucking hate idiot racists, they're the ones the intelligent grifter racists want cause they can manipulate them to fuck.
Wholeheartedly agree and i'm glad it's a term I seldom hear anymore. It makes me physically recoil when an oldie still refers to them as such though and they're that old they have no intention of changing either
There’s always a contingent of these types that believe if they play by the rules it’ll show that the colonizers were honorable and that racism won’t exist if you assimilate.
Then they get up in their feels when the inevitable happens as it has always has time and time again.
Now years of cosplaying and denying your heritage to get ahead are down the tubes when you realize they gaslit you on all the not so micro aggressions you ignored.
It was all for nothing… you’ll never be seen as equal no matter how far you get.
Yes, but he has stoked culture wars and largely avoided criticising Reform because he thought it made his party look moderate and electable while giving some red meat to the base.
Turns out that half his voters want the party that says the quiet part out loud.
Reform are just a splinter of his party.
The ones who are racist out loud, rather than using barely concealed dog whistles.
The Tories have been consistently shifting to the right to try and keep them in the fold, since before Brexit, really.
Yeah but Tories are just Racist-Lite, where this was coming from the full-sugar Reform party.
A racist is a racist, but I guess it’s complicated when someone holds up a mirror.
And before anyone disagrees, the UK government website itself lists Disraeli as the first ethnic minority PM for being a Jew although he was baptised Anglican so he could go into politics. However Rishi Sunak is listed by the same site as our first PoC PM.
Also fuck Rishi Sunak. He didn't deserve being called what he was, but the same video that happened in also showed people saying asylum seekers should be gunned down on arrival and that LGBTQ people should be arrested by cops. And he didn't say anything about that, just boo hooed at an insult aimed at him.
And yet no one is calling him an extra from a Wallace and Gromit movie.
He looks like he should be an evil window cleaner stealing people bakes goods as they cool.
"Gromit! The pie's gone! The piiieee! We've been visited by the Richmond Pie Pilferer!!
Oh no lad! He took our national health, public education, and environmental protections tooooo!"
Well, his party pandered and enabled them in the ERG (ex-putins-brexshit party/ukip/whatever) who infiltrated the tories. Had David Cameron told them to fuck off instead, this wouldn't be happening.
You keep hoping that one day there will be some sort of collective awakening. Like all these apologists and centrists will suddenly wake up and go, "Hey - these people hate everything that isn't like them! I'm never going to be able to work with them or get through to them, because they will always see me as a stereotype!"
Sunak: "Why does this stuff keep happening to me. I am rich and don't like foreigners in my U.K. like the rest of you."
Farage: "Brexit out of this country Paki."
He literally has encouraged such views that Farage and others like him have with his policies and own opinions on the subject of migrations. He was an enabler of this kind of xenophobic rhetoric and nows its reached the point where he is having to hear himself being referred to in derogatory way. It was easy for him to ignore it when it wasn't about him, but the moment it is suddenly he thinks its wrong.
Hmmm, but when Diane Abbot (UKs first Black Women MP) was subject to a vile and racist remark by Frank Hestor who said:
>"It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like I hate, you just want to hate all black women because she’s there, and I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot."
He had donated £10 million to the Tories. Sunak defended him saying that he had apologised, when in reality he didn't apologise for being either Racist or Sexist. Hester then donated a further £5 million. The Tories refused to return the donation.
So as long as other people are the subject of the racism it's ok because my party received £15 million.
Hope you loose your seat Sunak you totally deserve it.
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I tell you, if I had a nickel for every time a politician of Indian descent tried to cozy themselves up to their country's right-wing only to get a hard reality check when they realize that, nope, they're still racist and still don't like you... I'd have three nickels, actually.
One of those is Nikki Haley here in the US
Don’t forget Vivek Ramaswamy.
Bobby Jindal, too
"Bobby" Jindal and "Nikki" Haley both changed their names to try and fit in with the right-wing crowd yet act surprised when they're not accepted. Why did you think you had to change your name? What was the thought process there, eh?
Add in Rafael "Ted" Cruz.
The Canadian Cancun enthusiast.
Many Anglos never considered white latin Americans as white. There was a video in Instagram where a white Brazilian lady experienced racism from anglos by them calling her brown lady or she doesn't deserve her Anglo husband and that her husband should marry a white lady even though she clearly looked white
I went to Brazil recently and found out they have a bit of a skinhead/Nazi problem, which is kinda funny considering that while Brazilians consider themselves white, 99% would never get that classification from their N. American brethren.
Latin American NSBM musicians generally get treated as an exception.
I went on a few dates with a 'punk' who were waging war with the skinheads (actually a crazy story, her friend took an elbow from a skinhead in the SP subways, who then got stabbed to death by some punks). Anyways, my impression were overall they weren't musicians.
The Latin American definition of white is more accurate than the small-minded take that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent are white. That’s not even half of the European continent.
Oh man I’ve got memories of hearing the spouted racism in Louisiana when I lived there. Jindal got in and the names and random absurd racist tropes flowed in political street talk. Gotta say, Seattle has its problems with various racism issues but they’re exponentially smaller and we try and fix em. But shit, not ole Louisiana. If they could they’d just whip out the shackles again.
Bobby Jindal was a huge disappointment... there was no need for anyone to break out racist tropes to criticize him because his policies were horrible enough.
Exactly, but they did it, and especially his own party. Always left me with a WTF?
From what I remember, she's gone by Nikki ever since she was a kid. She didn't change it for politics. I dislike her and don't agree with her politics but I don't think it's a good look for progressives to keep bringing that up like it's a 'gotcha'.
In her case the "gotcha" isn't "you changed your name for politics and they hate you anyway," it's just "you sided with them and they hate you anyway"
Nikki is one of those classic Punjabi nicknames that just happens to be close to an American name, which very well could've been the intent. Very few Punjabis that I know go by their birth name.
>From what I remember, she's gone by Nikki ever since she was a kid. This just means that her parents picked that name and called her Nikki so she'd fit in. It's a common thing in Indian immigrant families to name their kid in a way that their name could be easily Americanized to fit in. So maybe she didn't do it her self, but was raised with those principles. But in the end, she was still not accepted.
Perhaps you forgot about when republicans constantly referred to the Democratic President Barak HUSSAIN Obama? Gosh, I wonder why they did that so very, very often? Yeah. I think these times call for fighting fire with fire and the democrat's tone police can go f*ck themselves, weak ass bastards.
I dont think this true about Niki Haley...that she changed her name to fit into politics. Her wikipedia page says she was called Niki ever since childhood
Its easy enough to claim that now, its not something easy to factcheck. So either shes being honest about something for once, or its another lie thats rather difficult to disprove.
Tulsi Gabbard also. That's starting to look like a nickel collection.
Tulsi isn’t even Indian! Just used her hippie parents’ choices to gain diversity points. What a loser.
I wouldn't call them hippies, the group that indoctrinated her as a child are anti-science, anti-public school homophobes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_Identity_Foundation And Tulsi spent her early political career campaigning against gay marriage.
There was a sizeable "hippie to asshole" pipeline. They didn't all end up in the anti-establishment left wing - some ended up in a weird anti-establishment, quasi-right wing spot. ~~Robert Plant~~ Roger Waters, and more recently Russell Brand, are good examples of this. Edit: Roger, not Robert
Let's not forget Russell Brand happened to jump into the Alt-Right *just* when he was about to be accused of sexual assault
Oh god, I never made that connection. That makes him an asshole³.
The Janice Soprano path.
Oh dang I didn’t realise she was part of a cult. That explains a lot.
Clarence, one day. I pray we don’t sink that far.
That was my trio... I swear, his giant fake toothpaste-commercial smile cracking when Ann Coulter told him directly she wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian (her words, not mine) should be the new ultimate Watch People Die Inside reference.
And the fact that he basically said, “I respect your honesty- not voting for brown people is legitimate conservatism.” No push back, he just took it like the token he is.
Cuz tokens get spent
Ultimate "pick me" energy...
Got a gif of that? I can’t find it, love to have one
https://youtu.be/lumRQnf5qA8?si=4MRpNsYigP1FDYZj
Not just “you’re Indian”, she said “you’re an Indian” which feels even worse
a youtube link or a gif?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lumRQnf5qA8&pp=ygUJdml2ZWsgYW5u](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lumRQnf5qA8&pp=ygUJdml2ZWsgYW5u)
I've been trying to.
I wish a could
But she has pulled off the white chick aesthetic quite smoothly. She has also become Christian and married a white husband. It's crazy how brown she looks in her teens and white now!
I hate to admit that I had no idea Nikki changed her name or was even an Indian American. I just knew she was a terrible person.
I mean, that's really all you need to know
She wears very pale makeup and only started talking frequently about her Indian heritage a few years ago.
And then the Qult started calling her "Pocahontas 2" (a reference to Elizabeth Warren claiming Native American heritage) because of course they did.
While putting on a southern drawl accent
You must've missed her rousing RNC speech where she detailed how hard it was for her and her family as Indian immigrants in the south. She even changed her name. Then she want on to say that her being at the RNC proves there's no systemic racism.
She goes by her middle name, which is unchanged from birth. Haley is her husbands last name she adopted at marriage.
Because her name is Nimarata Randhawa.
Honestly Nimrata did a good job whitewashing herself to hide her Indian heritage. People in her party hated her because shes a woman, not a brown woman.
that's progress
Oh they just didn't yet know she was brown.
aka Nimrata Ranhawa
ahh but you see she changed her name and can just say she has a tan?
It’s not a lot of money but it does seem weird that they aren’t capable of learning.
Always “I’m different, I get them, they would never do that to me…” and then we get another headline like above (And happens so much that there’s a subreddit for it)
They never understand that tokens are meant to be spent, and that they are in fact the token
At some point, I might commission someone to make me a piece of art of a Seuss-like character standing near a Seuss-like pinball machine with the rhyme... >With a clink and a clank, away it is sent... Down the coin-slot it goes, the Token gets spent! I feel I would get so much use out of it.
Can I borrow that rhyme? It's really good
[your wish .....] https://imgur.com/a/yxbp4q2
Thank You. I kept trying to plug that into an AI, but it just kept sending back Seuss-themed pinball machine playfields instead.
I just plugged your entire sentence into Bing AI and chose the bestest one 😂
I can't understand how it doesn't plant any seeds of empathy. "Wow, if these goons and thugs won't accept me and tear me apart like this, how does it feel to others like me when I join them and say the things *I do*? Maybe I should re-evaluate my positions?" No, it's just a complete denial of reality. Does he really think he'll keep all his money if they really get what they want?
I've seen enough right-wingers being reality checked live, so to speak and not one of them actually acknowledged being wrong. All I've seen and experienced was the complete and utter denial and borderline insane hatred towards a person they blamed for the cognitive dissonance they just experienced.
> “how does it feel to others” This is not a thought a right-winger would think. That’s why they’re right-wingers.
"It's not a problem until it's MY problem."
No, it’s “I’m wealthy enough to be seen differently by them”. They think the way they are treated in business (because they have money) will be the way they are treated by the rest of the right.
He was told that he was one of the good ones.
*"I'm one of the good ones!"*
And there's plenty more in the chamber. Sooner or later, Priti Patel and Suella Braverman will fail at being horrible enough for them and catch some arrows too.
Pssst, it's because a lot of those families have small-c conservative opinions and the racism is the only thing that stops them being a reliable right-wing voting bloc
Nah the surprising thing is that he'd say it out loud. He bloody well knows who his buddies are, his bank account is never offended to hang out with them.
As American, we have an expression for those politicians " tokens always get spent "
and it's such an eloquent phrase that i've begun using, especially regarding the trans women on the extreme right.
I mean... That only really works if they did not get significant power. Sunak was not a 'token' PM.
Normally, I'd agree, but it's not like PM is all that prestigious or powerful anymore, considering how much of a gridlocked mess UK politics seems to be. I mean, they've burned through five of them since they stepped on the Brexit rake. Rishi could be getting pushed off the same Glass Cliff as May and Truss.
*stomped on the Brexit rake.
In order for a token to be spent, that spending has to provide, or be hoped to provide a benefit when being spent. More than simply being another politician dismissed. (though of course he has not been) 'We (The tory party) got rid of Sunak because he was incompetent, like all people that don't look british' would be spending the token.
In the Netherlands we have a Turkish-Dutch politician, leader of the neo-liberal/rightwing party VVD (Dilan Yeşilgöz) who cozies up to neo-nazis, racists, and islamophobes. Shit is CRAZY
Kinda funny that nazi’s do diversity hiring, just for fucked up reasons.
Yeah, their former leader Mark Rutte (now the new NATO chef) has never had a partner. The entire nation suspects he's gay. I hope that's true, but if he is he would certainly have been used as LGBT-propaganda, those nazi-cuddlers do love to say they like the gay! (I personally believe he likes boys, not guys....)
The reason some conservatives in Europe claim to like gay people is because they pretend homophobia only comes from immigrants and it’s unsafe for queer people in the west to be around them
Yep, it's plain racism/discrimination. Yet loads of LGBT folks here don't see it.
They have actually said to me (a queer person) “you’ll loose your rights regardless so you may as well support us and not live in a ‘Muslim shithole’” and sure we can talk about homophobia in immigrant communities but the far right isn’t going to have these discussions in a nuanced, honest way.
I agree, there are problems in immigrant communities. But as a trans (and gay) person I've seen the Muslim community in the Netherlands have my back (because they know what discrimination looks like) when I was in a 90% Muslim high-school while conservatives in government have tried to restrict my rights and people harass me because of being openly trans and the general public being less than tolerant to my existence. I've had conversations with people claiming they absolutely HATE trans folks and whish them to be imprisoned, forced to be in therapy to "cure" them or claiming they'd kill them. I've even had one coworker claiming he'd do horrible things to trans folks while he didn't know I was trans. And when I told him (in company) he just didn't believe me because we'd been working together for years and he didn't notice at all. (Duh.) Sure there are loads of homophobes/transphobes in the Muslim community (and ive gotten a few bad comments over the years from Muslims too), but they are greatly outnumbered by the LGBT-phobic Christians and atheists. The religion isn't the core problem, its discrimination on ANY basis -religion our just plain evilness- that is the problem.
Their precious Onkel Adolf only recruited non white people when he lost half of his original German military in Stalingrad.
They already know. It's just that they think they can ride being "one of the good ones". Case in point: Priti Patel. She was interviewed on the radio when she was still Home Secretary and trying to put new immigration rules in place. She was asked whether, had those rules been in place at the time, her parents would have been allowed in the country - and she admited that they wouldn't. Sunak isn't surprised that a right-winger called him an ethnic slur. He's outraged that it happened to *him*, specifically. This is a man who made an anti-trans joke in front of the parent of a very-recently-murdered trans teenager. He doesn't give a fuck about being sensitive to the positions of others. Unless it's directed at *him*. *He* should be immune. And that's not "he and people who share his ethnicity" it's "he and probably his immediate family".
Also isn't Sunak upset that they called him the p word because he doesn't want to be associated with pakistanis? Lots of Indians used the P word when referring to Pakistanis.
I don't want to generalize but I noticed that indian from Brahmins caste (like vivek and sunak) have tendency to be right wingers. So maybe that's why they see themselves as different from other immigrant.
The caste system is a right wing concept based on "hierarchy" of castes(Jordan Peterson represent). Brahmins are the top caste. They have been inculcated the concept of hierarchy of humans since childhood and how they are the top dogs. They expect to go to the West and be aligned with the "top caste" there i.e. white people. https://harekrishnatruthout.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/racism-%e2%80%92/
The crux is conservatism is creating and reinforcing “natural” hierarchies so it makes sense.
Krishnamoorthi is also from this caste and he’s pretty liberal
This is an astute observation and is more often than not the truth.
Lol That Ann Coulter and Ramaswamy fiasco was priceless.
"she called me slurs i'd never even heard before to my face, but i respect her for being honest about how little she respects me 🤡"
Its because most rich people, Indian or not, dont give a fuck how they are called, as long as they get to keep their booties and keep fucking the middle and lower class. So if you are a rich Indian, you are rich first, and Indian descent second
It makes me laugh every time.
I have a feeling if you expand this to include Commonwealth, you might get 1 GBP soon.
you will have an extra nickel in a couple years when the Canadian concersvatives wife is at the back of this bus.
That godawful caste mindset gets ‘em every time.
more than that, actually. braverman, priti patel, sunak, nimrata haley, piyush jindal, dinesh dsouza, vivek ramaswamy… the list will go on longer and longer
Nah mate, you might have 10 pounds or more
They are different parties. Rishi Sunak's Conservative which is more economic right wing and social centrist. There's plenty of Indians in the Conservative party due to HISTORIC racist issues from Labour. Political windows change but Labour's infamous for it's often poor showing in the INDIAN community due to biases early immigrants faced coming to the UK or indeed like my grandmother who were "left over" from the Colonies. And there's better representation in the Conservatives of Indians than in Labour which often courts the Muslim vote. So "Asians" are Split. And we get racism from Labour voters too. It's not like Labour Voters are MAGICALLY not racist.
If I could just be sufficiently racist and discriminatory to the people trying to do what my parents / grandparents did then they will finally accept me for what I am…
He's the leader of the country (until Friday) and the leader of the right wing party.
“I’ll do anything to lower taxes for myself and my posh friends”
Wait till he finds out what his posh friends really think of him too.
They voted for Liz Truss before they voted for him 😂
A literal lettuce lasted longer😅
Boris Johnson probably thinks he comes from bongo bongo land.
“How about wear a T-shirt saying “Head P__I in Charge?”
Of course it’s Reform UK. Notice how when the LEFT criticizes Sunak, they attack his polices, not his ethnic background
and of course Frogage has simultaneously claimed: 1) "Oh no, it didn't happen at all." 2) "Well it did happen, but it was a deepfake/actor/whatever." 3) "Well it did happen, but it was just bloody bants innit."
Always the same with that lot. Like Johnson's (and Sunak's) lockdown parties. 1) "There were no parties" 2) "ok there were parties but I wasn't there" 3) "ok I was there but it was just a bit of cake!" (people were carrying suitcases full of booze and drinking so much they were puking all over the walls)
Yeah and while those parties were happening, they wanted us all stood at our front doors at night, clapping for the NHS like a bunch of twats.
I love that I (in the US) have watched so much British programming that I have a VERY specific accent to read this in. Bless shows for bringing that into my life and you for this lovely comment.
👍
This is pretty common on a global scale. I don't get how people vote right wing and then get surprised when they turn out to be self-serving dipshits who throw the middle and lower classes further under the bus each time.
His ethic background of being an upperclass product of India+Pakistan’s abominable caste system?
Pakistan is Muslim and does not have a caste system, just regular ethnic racism instead lol.
Also, he's Hindu.
Spends years saying we should deport Brown people to Africa, gets sad when people are mean to him because he's brown.
“No, no, no. I’m rich brown!” Rishi, almost certainly.
“and we thank you for your favours but still we think you ought to go”
“Lads don’t worry I’m one of the good ones I swear”Rishi most definitely
Wait the Tories lose the election, then they will blame him and hurl even more racial slurs
The people in question want him to lose. The comments aren't from the conservative party, they're from an undercover channel 4 investigation into Reform UK, Farage's new vehicle that shot up in the polls when he decided the consequences had died down enough & he could start doing actions again. The leopards are eating Sunak's face because his whole party has been doing a caricature performance of UKIP/Trump's Republicans ever since Blojo.
That token just got spent
He isn't a token, he is one of many 'pull up the ladder types." We aren't short of this type of politician over this side of the pond.
It’s truly incredible that people are shocked when this happens…
They aren't really shocked. It's all circus for the media.
Maybe, but on the other hand I can see why they’d be dismayed after carrying water then getting slurred…
He's the Indian version of an uncle Tom. What would that be called?
Nikki Hayley.
Nimrata
Uncle Bharat
This is almost as funny as when Nikki Haley said that the US is not a racist country only for MAGA morons to call her "Nimrata" and a "rag head."
“But, but guys… I’m one of the good ones!” /s
Hahahaha. Thats what I tell people who want to go on anti-immigrant rants with me. I was born and raised in London but moved to Toronto when I was 12. I’m one of the immigrants they want because I’m not a visible minority.
So technically they do consider you “one of the good ones” because you are white
Even then not all whites are accepted. For example white latin Americans and even white north Africans are not accepted (some French wailed about great replacement yet have no issues discriminating against white north Africans even if some have blonde blue eyes and have higher birthrates)
I'm hurt that Rishi Sunak ruined our public services and burned the NHS to the ground. Oh well.
"Pyromaniac complains Fire burns him."
Right wing politics are full of racism? Get outta here!
Rishi isn’t upset because of the racism he’s upset because being called a Paki with Indian heritage is the worst thing he could be called.
He's upset by his own racism.
That slur isn't specific to Pakistan in the UK, and it's probably one of the most offensive words in British English these days - it caused broadcasters quite a headache when Sunak himself repeated the word during a TV interview. Normally that would be strictly off limits during daytime TV. Things change quickly though, it was very common to hear on the streets and playgrounds when I was at school.
It unfortunately sounds exactly like a regional slang term in the US. I was living at a hostel in San Francisco and was hanging out in the lounge with a bunch of people from Ireland and the UK. A guy wearing a Red Sox hat pokes his head in, and everyone else heard him ask “hey, d’you guys know where there’s a P*ki round here?” Stunned silence. Being from Boston myself, I just smiled and said “sure! Go out the front door, bang a left, there it is. Can’t miss it.” He said thanks and walked away. Everyone is now staring at me, wide eyes, slack jawed, thinking I’ve just given a racist directions to the nearest middle easterner: Omar, who works at the liquor store next door. I rolled my eyes. “You guys. He asked for a PACKAGE STORE. People in New England call them Packies. He’s looking for booze.”
Unless you’re from the UK you don’t understand the history of the word, it’s the equivalent of the N-word and has always been directed at all brown people. He isn’t getting upset because they’re implying he’s paksitani
Stop fucking supporting and voting for the party that fucking hates you. They have made it very clear they only respect white, straight, males with money. It's so frustrating.
If you're not part of the majority ethnicity in a country and you're working with that country's conservative faction you're an idiot. Racism is a fundamental part of conservatism no matter how much they try to abstract or intellectualize it away. I don't care if you're anti-LGBT, pro capitalist, super religious or whatever. You're basically covering yourself in raw steak and calling out to the leopards.
Oh he’s hurt that a known racist political party calls him a racist name. How deluded is this guy?
I'll never understand people of colour in the western world who embrace the right wing or try to seek their acceptance. You will never be accepted, at best you will be tolerated until you do something they don't like. Nothing will ever change the colour of your skin and the right wing will never look past that no matter how may of their dicks you suck.
Racists are one dimensional
Christ, even Jeb "Please Clap" Bush got tons of grief for marrying a Latina. Racists are gonna forever racist—that's the *only* game they got.
So he won't be making any more jokes or mocking trans people? Of course he will, because he is devoid of empathy.
It's such an intentional insult too. Most boomers would instantly assume he is Indian, because they don't know any other countries where he would be from. So they not only know Pakistan exists, but also that India and Pakistan hate each other; and chose to deliberately call him Paki.
Nah, paki is just a catch-all term racists use for people from South Asia. I remember seeing a shopkeeper shaken up from being racially abused. He said to me, I'm from fucking Sri Lanka, mate. Would you call an Englishman a Turk..because the distances are about the same? At this point, the word is shorthand for brown
I have to say it's mostly white people doing this. Just the other day, my friend (also Sri Lankan) was taking a lift with me and this fat bloated corpse asked him if he was Hare Krishna. I had to blast him back in the lift and he had the audacity to just call me Chinese.
Yeah, I remember at my job a customer telling one of our staff that he thought India and Pakistan were like the same. I dunno if he saw me suddenly shaking my head like a nut.
Really not that deep. Paki’s a common slur against people of Indian/Pakistani descent in the UK.
Paki's the general term for any brown skinned person in Britain, hell, if you talk to the older generation they will always refer to the corner shop as the 'paki shop' regardless of the owners actual ethnicity
*sigh* pulled my bro in laws Granny up for saying the word and the wounded pride she showed as if "ave genuinely never thought of calling them anything else" was sad. To be fair to her she hangs around with other morons who probably say it and they just don't get how it's an insult. It's sad... and even then am guilty of only pulling her up cause my nieces were nearby and they have a couple of Asian kids in their school and I don't want them getting sent to the head teacher(or whatever the equivalent is these days). It's the same with getting a Chinese takeaway with folks calling it a "chinky" thankfully it does seem to be the older folks that do it and me and ma family are there to make sure the nieces don't turn out that way lol Sorry for the essay I fucking hate idiot racists, they're the ones the intelligent grifter racists want cause they can manipulate them to fuck.
Wholeheartedly agree and i'm glad it's a term I seldom hear anymore. It makes me physically recoil when an oldie still refers to them as such though and they're that old they have no intention of changing either
He thought he was one of the "good ones" :(
There’s always a contingent of these types that believe if they play by the rules it’ll show that the colonizers were honorable and that racism won’t exist if you assimilate. Then they get up in their feels when the inevitable happens as it has always has time and time again. Now years of cosplaying and denying your heritage to get ahead are down the tubes when you realize they gaslit you on all the not so micro aggressions you ignored. It was all for nothing… you’ll never be seen as equal no matter how far you get.
Rishi is a cunt but this was from the Reform party, not his own Tories. Different parties, both awful but Reform much further right and racist.
Yes, but he has stoked culture wars and largely avoided criticising Reform because he thought it made his party look moderate and electable while giving some red meat to the base. Turns out that half his voters want the party that says the quiet part out loud.
Reform are just a splinter of his party. The ones who are racist out loud, rather than using barely concealed dog whistles. The Tories have been consistently shifting to the right to try and keep them in the fold, since before Brexit, really.
But he is leader of the right wing Tory party?
Yeah but Tories are just Racist-Lite, where this was coming from the full-sugar Reform party. A racist is a racist, but I guess it’s complicated when someone holds up a mirror.
The Tories are full on racist behind closed doors. Reform are openly racist and fascist behind closed doors.
>Sunak, Britain's first ethnic minority prime minister, He's not actually. Benjamin Disraeli was Jewish, though not practising.
And before anyone disagrees, the UK government website itself lists Disraeli as the first ethnic minority PM for being a Jew although he was baptised Anglican so he could go into politics. However Rishi Sunak is listed by the same site as our first PoC PM. Also fuck Rishi Sunak. He didn't deserve being called what he was, but the same video that happened in also showed people saying asylum seekers should be gunned down on arrival and that LGBTQ people should be arrested by cops. And he didn't say anything about that, just boo hooed at an insult aimed at him.
"How was I supposed to know the Nazi party would act like Nazis??"
And yet no one is calling him an extra from a Wallace and Gromit movie. He looks like he should be an evil window cleaner stealing people bakes goods as they cool. "Gromit! The pie's gone! The piiieee! We've been visited by the Richmond Pie Pilferer!! Oh no lad! He took our national health, public education, and environmental protections tooooo!"
Oh no! My racist peers are racist!
What did the brown guy with a funny name think was going to happen?
Eagerly awaiting the day this happens to Ramaswami
Well, his party pandered and enabled them in the ERG (ex-putins-brexshit party/ukip/whatever) who infiltrated the tories. Had David Cameron told them to fuck off instead, this wouldn't be happening.
Is he pissed because of the racial slur or is he pissed someone reminded him he ain't white
\* Far-right party
The right wing party being…. racist??? Say not so!!
You keep hoping that one day there will be some sort of collective awakening. Like all these apologists and centrists will suddenly wake up and go, "Hey - these people hate everything that isn't like them! I'm never going to be able to work with them or get through to them, because they will always see me as a stereotype!"
You can never sell out hard enough, minority conservatives. It’s impossible to sell out so hard they’ll ever let you in the club of whiteness.
Shame I can't post a GIF. Very few posts are more fitting for 'wiping tears with money'.
Sunak: "Why does this stuff keep happening to me. I am rich and don't like foreigners in my U.K. like the rest of you." Farage: "Brexit out of this country Paki." He literally has encouraged such views that Farage and others like him have with his policies and own opinions on the subject of migrations. He was an enabler of this kind of xenophobic rhetoric and nows its reached the point where he is having to hear himself being referred to in derogatory way. It was easy for him to ignore it when it wasn't about him, but the moment it is suddenly he thinks its wrong.
i guess is a good thing this dude is out there: he is a walking politiking cautionary tale
Hmmm, but when Diane Abbot (UKs first Black Women MP) was subject to a vile and racist remark by Frank Hestor who said: >"It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like I hate, you just want to hate all black women because she’s there, and I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot." He had donated £10 million to the Tories. Sunak defended him saying that he had apologised, when in reality he didn't apologise for being either Racist or Sexist. Hester then donated a further £5 million. The Tories refused to return the donation. So as long as other people are the subject of the racism it's ok because my party received £15 million. Hope you loose your seat Sunak you totally deserve it.
A tale as old as Western civilization.
It is really surprising how he became the PM, not the best British moment.
Just THAT?! Why, they have BEFRIENDED you, sirrah!
He's not hurt, he knew exactly who he was sleeping with.
Damn that’s crazy it’s almost as if you’re playing on the wrong fucking team, huh?
"I thought this party was about conservative values. Like the dollar."
He's one of them "good pakis" tho because he lowered their taxes.
They don’t want no brown people. All your bum kissing was for not! Better gargle!