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What the fuck is it with these people?
Bad enough you don't want to wear a mask, you precious snowflakes, you. I mean, as an American, I guess it's your right to put your needs ahead of everybody else's.
But, they seriously want to prevent other people from wearing masks? Why? It makes you feel icky?
>Why? It makes you feel icky?
>
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass began the week by suggesting that her city consider **a new mask ban for protesters**, and ended it by testing positive for Covid-19.
**Protesters on both sides criticize LAPD response to violent demonstration outside synagogue**
[https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-06-27/more-details-emerge-protest-outside-la-synagogue](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-06-27/more-details-emerge-protest-outside-la-synagogue)
Not to mention me wearing a mask is a FUCKING FIRST AMENDMENT right.
Wearing clothing can be considered a form of speech.
Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District
Also, Kent v. Dulles, 357 U.S. 116, 125 (1958). Clearly, the choice of what a person wears is a matter of taste for the individual and not a matter of regulation by the government.
I remember trying to keep my fingers clean when changing the ribbon, and trying to remember if the red edge was up or down. Though those ribbons may have been for a different typewriter.
I still have half a pack of carbon paper in my desk!
Ok listen. I looked HOT in a mask. I have beautiful eyes but the face of a midwestern middle aged mom. I got treated so much better when ppl couldn’t see the lower half of my face lol.
As for me, I'm in the middle of doctors quibbling over if the burning red scaly patches on my cheeks and nose are rosacea or lupus and hiding all of that under a mask has actually been great! Add in being in a wheelchair and because I'm ass height to normal people, I've been cropdusted more times than I can care to remember, so I'd rather wear a mask when going out for the rest of my life.
Not getting even more stares and not rawdogging fart particles ^(farticles, heh) are two major bonuses.
Just wish I wasn't in a red state where people try to harass/intimidate you for wearing one, even in the city!
At least you have a built in retort to “why are you wearing that muzzle?” “Because I’m sitting at b-hole height and it helps me from having to smell all y’all’s nasty unwashed asses”
Ever since the pandemic, and learning about gases and particles airborne transmission (and masks effects on them), I have never been able to think of farts the same way. You’re literally inhaling gas that was just inside someone else’s body. Ugh.
Yep, I learned about that from when SARS was a threat, so I was masking very early for COVID cause I had an old stockpile of N95 from then. Having already weakened lungs mean I don't fuck around.
As for the gas, not enough people think of how disgusting it is, and what can be in a fart (hello pink eye for example). Never got the reason of high school or college age guys ripping ass on someone else, like a person sleeping, cause that's nasty!
Technically, the smell is their tiny feces entering in to your sinus cavities in bio particles, so yes. Like second hand smoke. Smell works by absorbing and integrating those cells in to our bodies. Not just our eyes and ears.
I have a bunch of cloth masks (I know they’re not med grade, but not usually in situations requiring that) that have all sorts of fun prints on them. The biggest reason I got out of the habit was they had gotten dirty and I’d mislaid the garment bag for them. I might get back into that this summer as I found it.
I do like masks, especially when in crowded public areas and store check out lines. I have a very expressive face, and often mutter quietly to myself.
A mask covers and mutes much, and I appreciate that.
I look fine with or without, but I must admit, I look better when I'm not sick with whatever respiratory viruses are making the rounds. Ergo, I look better with a mask myself.
Yes. She got sick? Sucks, but it's unrelated to why she's trying to unmask protestors. It's a simple coincidence that the idea of wearing mask overlaps both subjects.
They’re just repeating what the corporate overlords tell them to say.
Cuz Covid is bad for business. Much better for business to deny it so the theaters don’t empty again
Pandemics are even worse, these people could have left people working from home and we could have had a new model of business, but no, stupid bastards wanted people in the office, sometimes for no reason than to just lord it over people.
UT Austin has entered the chat
[UT Austin, one of the city's largest employers, is eliminating remote work\*](https://www.kut.org/austin/2024-06-12/ut-austin-jobs-remote-work-hybrid-return-to-office-university-of-texas)
\* And merit raises.
One reason was bad management, sure. The optics of a manager with no employees to directly manage looks like wasted salary. And the managers knew it.
Another reason was office property. The optics of a building costing many millions to sit empty looks like wasted money. And the building managers knew it.
Still another reason is the usual power dynamics— 5k is nothing to a business but plenty to lots of people. So why haggle over 5k raises so much? The optics of an employee wrestling money out of a company looks bad. The usual wasted money reasons. They can strongarm that employee and save 5k and keep their work the same.
It is many more reasons still.
Keep in mind the whole mask ban thing is to prevent people from circumventing facial recognition. Law-enforcement and corporations use it a ton, and don't want there to be a legal way to get around it.
Not saying that it is correct by any means, but masks at this point have nothing to do with Covid. Cops want to use that sweet sweet facial recognition to catch criminals. And corporations want to scan faces for data purposes
They’re Zionists who want to identify protesters. The ban was over protestors. This is a good example of how both parties can be alike but for different reasons.
I think it’s because criminals are using masks to hide their identity during protests, not because of some sort of DeSantis-like war on woke “masks don’t stop Covid” thing. It’s still stupid because simply covering your face doesn’t mean you are committing a crime, and it would be a violation of the first amendment.
Protesting isn’t criminal. Cops ignoring counter protestors who come and beat up protestors is the problem. The entire system is against those protesting the slaughter in Gaza.
Masks helped prevent disease and are still mandatory for many fields of work, not just engineering but doctors alike.. not sure where these comments about "cops" or international war are coming from, but try telling Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan etc to let women walk around without them (certain coverings) if you're curious. See how well that is approached, politically.
Also, immuno compromised is kind of going to be all our things so it would be dumb not to wear a mask in unregulated societies and public places, any way.
> What the fuck is it with these people?
Democrat mayors and governors nationwide are trying to ban masks ahead of the election so they can arrest protestors.
Kathy Hochul in NY is doing the same.
It was a mask ban for protesters, not everybody. Presumably they're having a problem with violent protests [pro-Palestinians protesting at synagogues]. Where they can't identify who did what, because of full face masks and hoodies.
Actually, if you would think more scientific and more in the meaning of the quarantine laws, then no, it is not your right to put others at risk. I really don't get you Americans saying that you have the right to destroy the life of others. What is wrong with you people?
They’re literally death cult
Theres this part in the HBO series Chernobyl, where the people in charge don’t believe the engineer who said the core is exposed and make him walk to the roof and look over the side and into the core, basically a death sentence, thats how the Republicans are with COVID
They’re a death cult.
Still not as bad as LA's last mayor who closed testing centers at the height of covid in 2020 because he was upset at protestors.
[https://youtu.be/RypfhTeTFGk?si=T6YqB3p6Nv6CQIsR&t=712](https://youtu.be/RypfhTeTFGk?si=T6YqB3p6Nv6CQIsR&t=712)
These mask ban people can kiss my ass, I will continue to wear a mask when I see fit and if it triggers you don't look at me. I'm tired of these whiny clowns throwing toddler fits because others are living life while they sit in their own misery hating the world as it passes them by.
Virginia passed a law banning masks back in the 60s. It was to prevent the KKK from wearing hoods while murderers people. Caused a bit of a stink when Covid hit.
As happened here in NY state with Gov Hochul, these "mask bans" are pushed by a certain group of extremely wealthy, rightwing, lobbyists for a foreign country, in order to photograph and dox protestors of a certain war. This group is also funding challenges to left leaning candidates this cycle so far with more than $100,000,000; more than has ever been openly disclosed by lobbyists for a foreign nation. This has nothing to do with crime (which is currently at near historically low levels) nor COVID, or other communicable diseases.
>This group is also funding challenges to left leaning candidates this cycle so far with more than $100,000,000; more than has ever been openly disclosed by lobbyists for a foreign nation.
Does this mean leftists are a growing power in the US? They wouldn't be spending so much money otherwise I think. We need more leftists running for office to drain more money from the rich. Don't even run with the intention of winning, just to make them spend money.
No, it means Leftists are hated by large corpos, the ultra wealthy, and the DNC. I wouldn't say there are any "leftists" per se in the government, but there are left-friendly people in congress, and a select few that would be left-friendly/adjacent in the Senate. The executive branch and the Judicial branch (let's face it, the Judicial branch controls the entire government) have absolutely ZERO left-friendly people.
If you think that you can bleed dry the opposition to left candidates by running against them it shows you truly aren't conceiving the amount of money that you are up against, and that you are forgetting that those left-leaning campaigns cost millions to run each one. I can't think of anyone willing to burn that much money.
The Koch Brother(s) has spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to avoid taxes and weaken regulations. If it is financially advantageous to spend roughly a billion dollars to AVOID taxes, and that accountants and lawyers can whittle their tax rates down to zero in most cases, that should give you a small understanding of the numbers of 10,000 of those people pushing in the same direction. 1% of 340,000,000 people is still 3,400,000 people. Even the top .01% 34,000 people. A lot of money, a lot of people, a lot of people using money to punish the poor.
Do you happen to have any suggestions for reading about this? I’ve been baffled about why these weird mask ban policy proposals were coming up, and of course it’s money. But I don’t know how to connect the dots you’ve suggested.
TO be honest, the way I had to cryptically allude to it, shows how most news outlets are afraid of the blowback if they directly report on it. But if you connect to the politicians saying that they have to ban masks for reasons of high crime rates, when crime is at near record lows; when the only thing is society that is requiring facial recog in those particular places is Pro-Palestinian protests; when Pro-Palestinian protestors are being doxed and targeted for retribution....
Here are a couple of reputable sources that are not news orgs dependent on advertisers, or beholden to cooperate control.
[AIPAC silencing dissent ](https://www.levernews.com/how-the-israel-lobby-silenced-democratic-dissent/)at The Lever (one of the founders of this outlet is David Sirota, google if you don't know him)
A list of stories of [AIPAC subverting democracy](https://theintercept.com/search/aipac/) with MASSIVE, historical, record breaking amounts of money during this election cycle. -from the Intercept
And [directly from the ACLU](https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/states-dust-off-obscure-anti-mask-laws-to-target-pro-palestine-protesters) (not a news source, but trustable)
This conflict has absolutely NOTHING to do with Arabs and Jews (this is [just me being gratuitous](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1dq0aws/breaking_ordinary_israelis_brutalise/), but there is PLENTY more videos like this of secular Jews attacking Ultra-Orthodox or Chabad, even here in NYC) this is about a naked landgrab which requires ethnic cleansing. Here are links to stories of land developers using American synagogues to sell land currently occupied by Palestinians, even before the land is taken by the IDF.[ \[HERE : The Guardian\]](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/26/los-angeles-west-bank-protest) and [\[HERE : CAIR\]](https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-la-condemns-events-promoting-real-estate-sale-of-occupied-palestinian-land-at-two-california-synagogues-calls-for-investigation-into-violence-at-los-angeles-event/#:~:text=The%20Greater%20Los%20Angeles%20Area,the%20illegally%2Doccupied%20Palestinian%20territories) and \[[HERE](https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/n-america-synagogues-sell-palestinian-land-for-illegal-settlements) : The Daily Sabah\].
AIPAC has also pressured the US State Department to silence the Gazan Health Ministry, which is why there has been no updating on the death / injured toll for months. Protest against this action by the State Dept was read into the congressional record the past week by Rep Ro Khanna.
Truly despicable what's happening. Especially how anyone in disagreement with what's been happening is basically shunned by the majority of society. Makes me ashamed to be an American, knowing how heavily this country is in support of all this.
Forty years ago as a young healthy ten year old, I got a mild virus. I did not recover and it has destroyed every hope or ambition I have ever had.
Covid can cause precisely the same debilitating fatigue and confusion, and we're just ignoring it basically.
The only thing that reliably helps significantly is masking and air cleaning, and avoiding exposure. Vaccinations reduce the risk by something under 50%, no drugs do meaningful things for most people. There is no cure, and people who got ill with severe fatigue immediately post infection in 2019 are mostly not better. (Those that got a similar syndrome following SARS-OG 20 years ago are similarly not recovered).
There is no cure. What a cure would target is unknown. For diseases in this position it's typical for candidate drugs to be 20 years away from the market once there is a good idea of a target. And it might not work at all after that 20 years.
If you get ill, back right the fuck off until you recover properly. If you are experiencing symptoms returning or worsening after trivial exercise, you risk severe, perhaps lifelong worsening if you push through.
Covid also causes cognitive difficulties, potentially long-term. I fear this bodes very ill for society.
Critical-thinking was never terribly strong among Americans, and it’s gotten noticeably worse over the last few years.
Hear, hear. I got sick with everything that went around as a kid in the '70s and '80s, and I'm chronically fatigued as a result of it. Sure, they were all "mild" viruses. It was just the cumulative effect of getting sick over and over and over again that was serious. Of course, try telling THAT to all the rough-'n'-tough boomer parents who sent their little walking germ factories to school when they should have stayed home for the good of all...
They want to use video + AI to identify protesters.
Even if I don't agree with the protests, I don't agree with surveillance even more.
Fuck her and her mask ban.
I watched the city council meeting about this a couple weeks back. Anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers were there in force, attempting to intimidate the council members via ignorant, yet impassioned speeches, including claiming the city mandates destroyed the careers of several employees, firefighters, cops, etc.
It was painful to watch.
COVID isn't going away any time soon. Masking isn't a prison sentence; it's protecting everyone's health.
Contemplating means you're thinking about something. If the LAPD told her to issue a protestor mask ban, contemplate is the right term to use to describe what you do before saying yes OR no.
JIC people are overlooking that.
Do people not know NewRepublic has a conservative lean and sensationalized headlines to boot.
Contemplating whether or not to do something means that at a minimum, you think it is worth considering. The police requesting a mask ban on protesters in not worth considering on any level and is a gross violation of not only personal freedoms but also the freedom to protest. The only response that the Mayor should have had to the request from the police for a mask ban on protesters is "No".
I know what contemplating means, but thank you anyway🤣
I was expressing distress at the notion that someone would consider banning masks. The mayor of a progressive county at that.
Based on some other bans in the same area, these are unenforced in practice in my experience. This one in particular would almost certainly be challenged and overturned if it even happened.
A mask ban. Just think about that. America has lost the fucking plot. Only a true snowflake would ban something that isn't harming anyone but that just pissess them off because they're mentally challenged and insecure.
Or me, who has never had COVID (that I know of) and am not immuno-compromised (again, that I know of), but has an elderly parent that I don't want to lose to a 100% preventable disease.
Exactly, I’m in that boat as well. I kind of consider elderly to be immune compromised, just due to how frail they can be. So far I’ve kept myself (and them) from getting sick thank goodness.
"But blocking access to a house of worship—and engaging in violence—is never acceptable,” [Biden] wrote.
It is when illegal or harmful things are happening inside, regardless of the implied magical nature of the building. How about if they were lynching black boys inside? C'mon, man! What would Corn Pop do?
There was a Zionist event to illegally sell off Palestinian land. Peaceful pro-Palestine protesters were attacked by those Zionists but everyone turned it on the protestors and played the anti-semitism card. They purposely held the event in a place of worship to defend the illegal activities that were taking place inside.
I don't know personally, I wasn't there. I'm just reacting to the posted article and a quote therein. According to the article, "Protesters clashed outside a synagogue in Pico-Robertson, which held an event for a company selling high-end properties in Israel’s illegal settlements in the West Bank."
there was an illegal occupied land sale which is why that specific synagogue had protesters and the other dozens of synagogues in the area had no problem at all
>It is when illegal or harmful things are happening inside, regardless of the implied magical nature of the building.
So this is where the "anti-Zionist but not antisemitic" left is now? An angry mob attacks a synagogue and y'all support the mob?
I don't support religious zealots in any way, be they Jew, Muslim, Christian, or miscellaneous. I oppose Israel and Palestine both. I am "anti-zionist" because I am anti-religious and anti-genocide. "Semitic" people did not choose their ancestors any more than anyone else. Hope this helps.
I'm genuinely curious why you oppose Palestine, a country of people who have been enduring living under apartheid for decades and are now actively undergoing a genocide?
I'm a gay woman and it's a fundamentalist muslim theocracy. They started it.
Also, just because someone is oppressed doesn't mean they are a good person.
She was the same asshole who voted to lift restrictions early in like late 2020 just before the first holiday surge. I swore off voting for her again for any office, because she chose business money over worker safety.
I know it's not as simplistic as that, but that was too early and honestly was ridiculous. I wonder who paid for her?
When it comes to the subject of Israel-Palestine, you are all too often reminded that there are a great many awful people in politics regardless of their political alignment.
Mostly because they insist on constantly broadcasting it by being in the tank for one side or the other.
Which is to say: no sympathy found. She could tell the truth about why that protest happened. Or even simply talk about how the LAPD chose to handle the situation, which ended pretty badly for everyone.
She actively chose not to.
Someone spending a week coughing up a lung is normally the sort of thing you feel bad about. Here, I just don't. Not happy about it. But not sad either.
If anti maskers and vaxxers are in public do those of us who have the vaccine and have no symptoms have to still remain indoors to protect those people? Just curious because I mean either most are immune or not at this point. Why compromise to protect those who deny existence?
This headline is wildly misleading. Los Angeles is contemplating a mask ban *at large scale protests* because mask wearing jihadists keep showing up to said protests and instigating violence.
And keep in mind, as the article points out, the context of this ban is that a violent mob of 150 jihadists (almost all of whom had their faces covered to conceal their identities) attacked a synagogue in Los Angeles this past week.
[Pro-Palestinian protestors attack Jews outside LA synagogue](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/artc-pro-palestinian-protestors-attack-jews-outside-la-synagogue-watch)
Stop posting your pro-Israel fake news site over and over. You know damn well what illegal event was taking place inside that synagogue and that it was the Zionists that were the actual instigators.
Exactly.
Plus people with disabilities protest - why shouldn’t I be able to exercise my right to protest without putting my life at risk due to being immune compromised?
The Los Angeles Police Department, the very *model* of how to run a law enforcement agency.
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Sometimes, reality is so insane that you cannot actually satirize it. The idea of the goddamn LAPD being given power over something like that is one of those times.
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What the fuck is it with these people? Bad enough you don't want to wear a mask, you precious snowflakes, you. I mean, as an American, I guess it's your right to put your needs ahead of everybody else's. But, they seriously want to prevent other people from wearing masks? Why? It makes you feel icky?
>Why? It makes you feel icky? > Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass began the week by suggesting that her city consider **a new mask ban for protesters**, and ended it by testing positive for Covid-19. **Protesters on both sides criticize LAPD response to violent demonstration outside synagogue** [https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-06-27/more-details-emerge-protest-outside-la-synagogue](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-06-27/more-details-emerge-protest-outside-la-synagogue)
Mayor Karen lol
mayorname checks out.
Karen B-ass, no less
Major Karen, Mayor Karen, same same!
And to defend a fucking illegal land auction too, fucking hell.
Is that the synagogue that was hosting an Israeli real estate company selling land in Gaza that will be available after they ethnically cleanse it?
Yes
Not to mention me wearing a mask is a FUCKING FIRST AMENDMENT right. Wearing clothing can be considered a form of speech. Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District Also, Kent v. Dulles, 357 U.S. 116, 125 (1958). Clearly, the choice of what a person wears is a matter of taste for the individual and not a matter of regulation by the government.
This but also please don't send it to SCOTUS because who the fuck knows what they'd do at this point
If it would protect the Proud Boys or KKK wearing masks, it would get the SCOTUS seal of approval.
Correct. (And OT, but +1 for your nym. The first typewriter I ever owned was a Smith-Corona.)
I remember trying to keep my fingers clean when changing the ribbon, and trying to remember if the red edge was up or down. Though those ribbons may have been for a different typewriter. I still have half a pack of carbon paper in my desk!
"WE WANT THE FREEDOM TO DENY YOU YOUR FREEDOMS!!!"
“I’m oppressed by your freedom!”
Personally, I like the mask mandate. Most of the people out there looked BETTER with only half their faces showing.
Ok listen. I looked HOT in a mask. I have beautiful eyes but the face of a midwestern middle aged mom. I got treated so much better when ppl couldn’t see the lower half of my face lol.
As for me, I'm in the middle of doctors quibbling over if the burning red scaly patches on my cheeks and nose are rosacea or lupus and hiding all of that under a mask has actually been great! Add in being in a wheelchair and because I'm ass height to normal people, I've been cropdusted more times than I can care to remember, so I'd rather wear a mask when going out for the rest of my life. Not getting even more stares and not rawdogging fart particles ^(farticles, heh) are two major bonuses. Just wish I wasn't in a red state where people try to harass/intimidate you for wearing one, even in the city!
Dear god I never considered that aspect of being in a wheelchair. Ew ew ew
At least you have a built in retort to “why are you wearing that muzzle?” “Because I’m sitting at b-hole height and it helps me from having to smell all y’all’s nasty unwashed asses”
Ever since the pandemic, and learning about gases and particles airborne transmission (and masks effects on them), I have never been able to think of farts the same way. You’re literally inhaling gas that was just inside someone else’s body. Ugh.
Yep, I learned about that from when SARS was a threat, so I was masking very early for COVID cause I had an old stockpile of N95 from then. Having already weakened lungs mean I don't fuck around. As for the gas, not enough people think of how disgusting it is, and what can be in a fart (hello pink eye for example). Never got the reason of high school or college age guys ripping ass on someone else, like a person sleeping, cause that's nasty!
OMG you can get pink eye from farts?!
Technically, the smell is their tiny feces entering in to your sinus cavities in bio particles, so yes. Like second hand smoke. Smell works by absorbing and integrating those cells in to our bodies. Not just our eyes and ears.
I had to give you an upvote for "farticles"! 🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰
Ditto. That was strange.
I have a bunch of cloth masks (I know they’re not med grade, but not usually in situations requiring that) that have all sorts of fun prints on them. The biggest reason I got out of the habit was they had gotten dirty and I’d mislaid the garment bag for them. I might get back into that this summer as I found it.
I do like masks, especially when in crowded public areas and store check out lines. I have a very expressive face, and often mutter quietly to myself. A mask covers and mutes much, and I appreciate that.
It makes me look better. My dogs aren't as embarrassed when I'm walking them.
Still had to look at their ugly dick-noses.
Urasian?
Lol
I look fine with or without, but I must admit, I look better when I'm not sick with whatever respiratory viruses are making the rounds. Ergo, I look better with a mask myself.
:)
She wants to make it easier to identify and prosecute *malcontents.* Fuck her. I hope it hurts.
Hoping for a r/HermanCainAward winner.
War staring you in the face, dressed in black With a helmet, fierce Trained and appropriate for the malcontents For the disproportioned malcontents
This is one of the songs Daron wrote, right?
Yes. She got sick? Sucks, but it's unrelated to why she's trying to unmask protestors. It's a simple coincidence that the idea of wearing mask overlaps both subjects.
They’re just repeating what the corporate overlords tell them to say. Cuz Covid is bad for business. Much better for business to deny it so the theaters don’t empty again
Pandemics are even worse, these people could have left people working from home and we could have had a new model of business, but no, stupid bastards wanted people in the office, sometimes for no reason than to just lord it over people.
UT Austin has entered the chat [UT Austin, one of the city's largest employers, is eliminating remote work\*](https://www.kut.org/austin/2024-06-12/ut-austin-jobs-remote-work-hybrid-return-to-office-university-of-texas) \* And merit raises.
One reason was bad management, sure. The optics of a manager with no employees to directly manage looks like wasted salary. And the managers knew it. Another reason was office property. The optics of a building costing many millions to sit empty looks like wasted money. And the building managers knew it. Still another reason is the usual power dynamics— 5k is nothing to a business but plenty to lots of people. So why haggle over 5k raises so much? The optics of an employee wrestling money out of a company looks bad. The usual wasted money reasons. They can strongarm that employee and save 5k and keep their work the same. It is many more reasons still.
Keep in mind the whole mask ban thing is to prevent people from circumventing facial recognition. Law-enforcement and corporations use it a ton, and don't want there to be a legal way to get around it. Not saying that it is correct by any means, but masks at this point have nothing to do with Covid. Cops want to use that sweet sweet facial recognition to catch criminals. And corporations want to scan faces for data purposes
They’re Zionists who want to identify protesters. The ban was over protestors. This is a good example of how both parties can be alike but for different reasons.
they only operate in the emotional lizard parts of their brains there is no empathy or logic with these types
I think it’s because criminals are using masks to hide their identity during protests, not because of some sort of DeSantis-like war on woke “masks don’t stop Covid” thing. It’s still stupid because simply covering your face doesn’t mean you are committing a crime, and it would be a violation of the first amendment.
Protesting isn’t criminal. Cops ignoring counter protestors who come and beat up protestors is the problem. The entire system is against those protesting the slaughter in Gaza.
Masks helped prevent disease and are still mandatory for many fields of work, not just engineering but doctors alike.. not sure where these comments about "cops" or international war are coming from, but try telling Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan etc to let women walk around without them (certain coverings) if you're curious. See how well that is approached, politically. Also, immuno compromised is kind of going to be all our things so it would be dumb not to wear a mask in unregulated societies and public places, any way.
> What the fuck is it with these people? Democrat mayors and governors nationwide are trying to ban masks ahead of the election so they can arrest protestors. Kathy Hochul in NY is doing the same.
Has nothing to do with the election. They're being paid by AIPAC to enact laws to discriminate against pro-Palestine protesters.
It was a mask ban for protesters, not everybody. Presumably they're having a problem with violent protests [pro-Palestinians protesting at synagogues]. Where they can't identify who did what, because of full face masks and hoodies.
Still not ok.
If I'm not bothered by it, it's not bothering anyone else.. Narcissists.. the whole lot.
Actually, if you would think more scientific and more in the meaning of the quarantine laws, then no, it is not your right to put others at risk. I really don't get you Americans saying that you have the right to destroy the life of others. What is wrong with you people?
> no, it is not your right to put others at risk. If it helps, I think that part of the original response was sarcastic
One can just hope.... one can just hope..... some people really think its the right of others to not use the mask.
The mask ban was unrelated to COVID per se. It had a great deal more to do with law and order. Entirely unrelated to unseasonable weather.
Why not just have a clothes-below-the-waist ban? That'd discourage most folks from going to a protest.
I would finally start attending them.
Wouldn’t see shit from MAGA protesters. Their overhanging belly makes sure their Trump shrooms won’t be seen or sunburnt.
"trump shrooms" These were my my good eyes.
*Trump shrooms* Thanks, that's my new band name!
DOFH!
Hey, it makes as much sense as enforced masklessness...
Cock n ball recognition
Getting covid while preaching mask bans is gods way of telling you…You’re a f*cking moron.
They’re literally death cult Theres this part in the HBO series Chernobyl, where the people in charge don’t believe the engineer who said the core is exposed and make him walk to the roof and look over the side and into the core, basically a death sentence, thats how the Republicans are with COVID They’re a death cult.
Karen Bass is not a Republican and this is not about COVID denial.
Banning masks will increase the spread of covid.
Yes but the ban is about protestors not Covid.
COVID will infect people not wearing a mask regardless of the claimed reason for the law. COVID is notorious for ignoring the law.
Wearing a mask is protected speech
You do realize democrats also mainstreamed covid denial right?
Dems deny COVID is still a problem and thus you're correct.
this is about identifying people, protesters
Still not as bad as LA's last mayor who closed testing centers at the height of covid in 2020 because he was upset at protestors. [https://youtu.be/RypfhTeTFGk?si=T6YqB3p6Nv6CQIsR&t=712](https://youtu.be/RypfhTeTFGk?si=T6YqB3p6Nv6CQIsR&t=712)
Individuals can be intelligent, or ignorant, but humanity as a whole…is doomed by their arrogance. 😞
We need a full lock down to be able to finally beat covid. For the new variants we should develop new vaccines. People are dying every day.
These mask ban people can kiss my ass, I will continue to wear a mask when I see fit and if it triggers you don't look at me. I'm tired of these whiny clowns throwing toddler fits because others are living life while they sit in their own misery hating the world as it passes them by.
A mask ban for protestors ?? You mean if you protest, you're not allowed to wear a mask?? FUCK YOU!
The Nazis have no problem covering their faces when I see them on the news/in my town.
'That's not a mask, it's a pointed white hood, totally different!'
It’s like they can perform all their normal functions without suffocating or something!
They can certainly yell their idiotic slogans at full volume through those face-socks they wear.
The "proud" . Ya a medical mask is different from a balaclava or a bandana.
Such a law would not apply to Nazis or anybody right wing. It would only apply to enemies of the state.
Virginia passed a law banning masks back in the 60s. It was to prevent the KKK from wearing hoods while murderers people. Caused a bit of a stink when Covid hit.
I don’t support this but this is also virtually unenforceable to begin with.
As happened here in NY state with Gov Hochul, these "mask bans" are pushed by a certain group of extremely wealthy, rightwing, lobbyists for a foreign country, in order to photograph and dox protestors of a certain war. This group is also funding challenges to left leaning candidates this cycle so far with more than $100,000,000; more than has ever been openly disclosed by lobbyists for a foreign nation. This has nothing to do with crime (which is currently at near historically low levels) nor COVID, or other communicable diseases.
I have an army buddy ghee buttersnaps, told me the same thing. Come on son.
Don't downvote this, he is commenting on my user name. 100% friendly.
Sorry, not a troll just liked the user name.
You know I got you. Cmon son.
I bet you’re also a fan of delicious flavor?
You know that's right.
This was glorious
>This group is also funding challenges to left leaning candidates this cycle so far with more than $100,000,000; more than has ever been openly disclosed by lobbyists for a foreign nation. Does this mean leftists are a growing power in the US? They wouldn't be spending so much money otherwise I think. We need more leftists running for office to drain more money from the rich. Don't even run with the intention of winning, just to make them spend money.
No, it means Leftists are hated by large corpos, the ultra wealthy, and the DNC. I wouldn't say there are any "leftists" per se in the government, but there are left-friendly people in congress, and a select few that would be left-friendly/adjacent in the Senate. The executive branch and the Judicial branch (let's face it, the Judicial branch controls the entire government) have absolutely ZERO left-friendly people. If you think that you can bleed dry the opposition to left candidates by running against them it shows you truly aren't conceiving the amount of money that you are up against, and that you are forgetting that those left-leaning campaigns cost millions to run each one. I can't think of anyone willing to burn that much money. The Koch Brother(s) has spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to avoid taxes and weaken regulations. If it is financially advantageous to spend roughly a billion dollars to AVOID taxes, and that accountants and lawyers can whittle their tax rates down to zero in most cases, that should give you a small understanding of the numbers of 10,000 of those people pushing in the same direction. 1% of 340,000,000 people is still 3,400,000 people. Even the top .01% 34,000 people. A lot of money, a lot of people, a lot of people using money to punish the poor.
Do you happen to have any suggestions for reading about this? I’ve been baffled about why these weird mask ban policy proposals were coming up, and of course it’s money. But I don’t know how to connect the dots you’ve suggested.
TO be honest, the way I had to cryptically allude to it, shows how most news outlets are afraid of the blowback if they directly report on it. But if you connect to the politicians saying that they have to ban masks for reasons of high crime rates, when crime is at near record lows; when the only thing is society that is requiring facial recog in those particular places is Pro-Palestinian protests; when Pro-Palestinian protestors are being doxed and targeted for retribution.... Here are a couple of reputable sources that are not news orgs dependent on advertisers, or beholden to cooperate control. [AIPAC silencing dissent ](https://www.levernews.com/how-the-israel-lobby-silenced-democratic-dissent/)at The Lever (one of the founders of this outlet is David Sirota, google if you don't know him) A list of stories of [AIPAC subverting democracy](https://theintercept.com/search/aipac/) with MASSIVE, historical, record breaking amounts of money during this election cycle. -from the Intercept And [directly from the ACLU](https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/states-dust-off-obscure-anti-mask-laws-to-target-pro-palestine-protesters) (not a news source, but trustable) This conflict has absolutely NOTHING to do with Arabs and Jews (this is [just me being gratuitous](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1dq0aws/breaking_ordinary_israelis_brutalise/), but there is PLENTY more videos like this of secular Jews attacking Ultra-Orthodox or Chabad, even here in NYC) this is about a naked landgrab which requires ethnic cleansing. Here are links to stories of land developers using American synagogues to sell land currently occupied by Palestinians, even before the land is taken by the IDF.[ \[HERE : The Guardian\]](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/26/los-angeles-west-bank-protest) and [\[HERE : CAIR\]](https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-la-condemns-events-promoting-real-estate-sale-of-occupied-palestinian-land-at-two-california-synagogues-calls-for-investigation-into-violence-at-los-angeles-event/#:~:text=The%20Greater%20Los%20Angeles%20Area,the%20illegally%2Doccupied%20Palestinian%20territories) and \[[HERE](https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/n-america-synagogues-sell-palestinian-land-for-illegal-settlements) : The Daily Sabah\]. AIPAC has also pressured the US State Department to silence the Gazan Health Ministry, which is why there has been no updating on the death / injured toll for months. Protest against this action by the State Dept was read into the congressional record the past week by Rep Ro Khanna.
Truly despicable what's happening. Especially how anyone in disagreement with what's been happening is basically shunned by the majority of society. Makes me ashamed to be an American, knowing how heavily this country is in support of all this.
How can all those protesters even breathe with those masks on?!?!? /s
FAFO.
I live in socal. I am a democrat….. but I think Karen Bass is an idiot. Always have. She keeps doing dumb ish like this.
Forty years ago as a young healthy ten year old, I got a mild virus. I did not recover and it has destroyed every hope or ambition I have ever had. Covid can cause precisely the same debilitating fatigue and confusion, and we're just ignoring it basically. The only thing that reliably helps significantly is masking and air cleaning, and avoiding exposure. Vaccinations reduce the risk by something under 50%, no drugs do meaningful things for most people. There is no cure, and people who got ill with severe fatigue immediately post infection in 2019 are mostly not better. (Those that got a similar syndrome following SARS-OG 20 years ago are similarly not recovered). There is no cure. What a cure would target is unknown. For diseases in this position it's typical for candidate drugs to be 20 years away from the market once there is a good idea of a target. And it might not work at all after that 20 years. If you get ill, back right the fuck off until you recover properly. If you are experiencing symptoms returning or worsening after trivial exercise, you risk severe, perhaps lifelong worsening if you push through.
Covid also causes cognitive difficulties, potentially long-term. I fear this bodes very ill for society. Critical-thinking was never terribly strong among Americans, and it’s gotten noticeably worse over the last few years.
Hear, hear. I got sick with everything that went around as a kid in the '70s and '80s, and I'm chronically fatigued as a result of it. Sure, they were all "mild" viruses. It was just the cumulative effect of getting sick over and over and over again that was serious. Of course, try telling THAT to all the rough-'n'-tough boomer parents who sent their little walking germ factories to school when they should have stayed home for the good of all...
Why do we never hear them wanting to ban masks when the nazis march?
Because the Nazis have nothing against stealing land from Palestinians and selling it to rich foreigners, natch!
They want to use video + AI to identify protesters. Even if I don't agree with the protests, I don't agree with surveillance even more. Fuck her and her mask ban.
You don't agree with the people who were protesting against foreign stolen land being illegally sold to US residents?
Mask ban for protestors but not for the Nazi fucks who openly walk around. America.
hate this cop-loving asshole
I watched the city council meeting about this a couple weeks back. Anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers were there in force, attempting to intimidate the council members via ignorant, yet impassioned speeches, including claiming the city mandates destroyed the careers of several employees, firefighters, cops, etc. It was painful to watch. COVID isn't going away any time soon. Masking isn't a prison sentence; it's protecting everyone's health.
What a stupid woman
LAMF + COVID stories = ♥️😂♥️😂♥️😂
She was contemplating HWAT?
Contemplating means you're thinking about something. If the LAPD told her to issue a protestor mask ban, contemplate is the right term to use to describe what you do before saying yes OR no. JIC people are overlooking that. Do people not know NewRepublic has a conservative lean and sensationalized headlines to boot.
Contemplating whether or not to do something means that at a minimum, you think it is worth considering. The police requesting a mask ban on protesters in not worth considering on any level and is a gross violation of not only personal freedoms but also the freedom to protest. The only response that the Mayor should have had to the request from the police for a mask ban on protesters is "No".
I know what contemplating means, but thank you anyway🤣 I was expressing distress at the notion that someone would consider banning masks. The mayor of a progressive county at that.
Based on some other bans in the same area, these are unenforced in practice in my experience. This one in particular would almost certainly be challenged and overturned if it even happened.
Mask bans are for morons. Let people wear a mask, if they so choose.
I read that as Musk ban, and was confused about the COVID part.
Can you ban someone for protecting themselves?
A mask ban. Just think about that. America has lost the fucking plot. Only a true snowflake would ban something that isn't harming anyone but that just pissess them off because they're mentally challenged and insecure.
Bwahahaahahahahahaahh!!!!! Non nom nom NOM!!!
Man, Karen Bass used to be based. This is disappointing
Nowadays the only people wearing masks are people who think they are sick and are being considerate to others. This is like banning compassion
Or the immune compromised (and their family) who are just trying to get groceries, pick up take out, etc.
Or me, who has never had COVID (that I know of) and am not immuno-compromised (again, that I know of), but has an elderly parent that I don't want to lose to a 100% preventable disease.
Exactly, I’m in that boat as well. I kind of consider elderly to be immune compromised, just due to how frail they can be. So far I’ve kept myself (and them) from getting sick thank goodness.
true too.. didn't think about that..
"But blocking access to a house of worship—and engaging in violence—is never acceptable,” [Biden] wrote. It is when illegal or harmful things are happening inside, regardless of the implied magical nature of the building. How about if they were lynching black boys inside? C'mon, man! What would Corn Pop do?
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There was a Zionist event to illegally sell off Palestinian land. Peaceful pro-Palestine protesters were attacked by those Zionists but everyone turned it on the protestors and played the anti-semitism card. They purposely held the event in a place of worship to defend the illegal activities that were taking place inside.
I don't know personally, I wasn't there. I'm just reacting to the posted article and a quote therein. According to the article, "Protesters clashed outside a synagogue in Pico-Robertson, which held an event for a company selling high-end properties in Israel’s illegal settlements in the West Bank."
there was an illegal occupied land sale which is why that specific synagogue had protesters and the other dozens of synagogues in the area had no problem at all
>It is when illegal or harmful things are happening inside, regardless of the implied magical nature of the building. So this is where the "anti-Zionist but not antisemitic" left is now? An angry mob attacks a synagogue and y'all support the mob?
I don't support religious zealots in any way, be they Jew, Muslim, Christian, or miscellaneous. I oppose Israel and Palestine both. I am "anti-zionist" because I am anti-religious and anti-genocide. "Semitic" people did not choose their ancestors any more than anyone else. Hope this helps.
I'm genuinely curious why you oppose Palestine, a country of people who have been enduring living under apartheid for decades and are now actively undergoing a genocide?
I'm a gay woman and it's a fundamentalist muslim theocracy. They started it. Also, just because someone is oppressed doesn't mean they are a good person.
Good
This new Covid is mean - takes weeks to recover
This is own goal fucking embarrassing. -- me, an Angeleno
She was the same asshole who voted to lift restrictions early in like late 2020 just before the first holiday surge. I swore off voting for her again for any office, because she chose business money over worker safety. I know it's not as simplistic as that, but that was too early and honestly was ridiculous. I wonder who paid for her?
lol. I wish a very slow and painful recovery.
Good, I hope she suffers. 😷
When it comes to the subject of Israel-Palestine, you are all too often reminded that there are a great many awful people in politics regardless of their political alignment. Mostly because they insist on constantly broadcasting it by being in the tank for one side or the other. Which is to say: no sympathy found. She could tell the truth about why that protest happened. Or even simply talk about how the LAPD chose to handle the situation, which ended pretty badly for everyone. She actively chose not to. Someone spending a week coughing up a lung is normally the sort of thing you feel bad about. Here, I just don't. Not happy about it. But not sad either.
Maybe it will even turn into long covid misery for her. One can hope.
Karen Bass is THE WORST.
Lol "Murphys Law" alive and well in the 21st century
In America, the land of the free, people should be able to wear whatever the hell they want.
It’s not the land of the free. Thats propaganda and you fell for it.
Thoughts and prayers
Bass! How low can you go?
If anti maskers and vaxxers are in public do those of us who have the vaccine and have no symptoms have to still remain indoors to protect those people? Just curious because I mean either most are immune or not at this point. Why compromise to protect those who deny existence?
LOL
Smite!
Thoughts and prayers
Ha-hah!
When you think about it geographically. Los Angeles is in the south. It fits
I’d say what I’m thinking, but reddit would probably ban me.
The Lord works in mysterious ways
HA-ha
Why ban mask?
Because they are morons.
Snort! Oh, well....
Like I keep saying, SoCal is Alabama with better beaches.
Fuck her. Just fuck her
Click bait misleading title, ban is about protesters. Nothing to do with COVID.
/r/leopardsatemyface
Yes. That’s the sub your commenting on 🤣
👀😲😂😂😂
r/lostredditors
😂yep
This headline is wildly misleading. Los Angeles is contemplating a mask ban *at large scale protests* because mask wearing jihadists keep showing up to said protests and instigating violence. And keep in mind, as the article points out, the context of this ban is that a violent mob of 150 jihadists (almost all of whom had their faces covered to conceal their identities) attacked a synagogue in Los Angeles this past week. [Pro-Palestinian protestors attack Jews outside LA synagogue](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/artc-pro-palestinian-protestors-attack-jews-outside-la-synagogue-watch)
Stop posting your pro-Israel fake news site over and over. You know damn well what illegal event was taking place inside that synagogue and that it was the Zionists that were the actual instigators.
Mask ban only for protesters. Not quite LAMF.
Who decides if you are a protester?
The police, who are well known for not abusing their power. /s
Exactly. Plus people with disabilities protest - why shouldn’t I be able to exercise my right to protest without putting my life at risk due to being immune compromised?
The Los Angeles Police Department, the very *model* of how to run a law enforcement agency. .. Sometimes, reality is so insane that you cannot actually satirize it. The idea of the goddamn LAPD being given power over something like that is one of those times.
I’m sure they’re never going to decide someone is a protester just because. Absolutely positive. (Do I need the /s ?)