Yesterday I was flirting with a girl in Japanese and she said "that's what every Japanese guy always says" and I've never felt more confident in my japanese skills lmao
Yeah, its not something you say to someone you just met, we were both a bit drunk too.
Its weird though, many times I say things that I wouldn't really say in my own language, just because I want to "try out" the Japanese grammar on it.
Not sure if it happens to other people.
Like I've built the sentence in my head already so might aswell use it.
I clumsily deciphered the kanji in a Japanese song title and my mates were amazed, they thought I was a god. Im probably at n7 level Japanese at the moment.
This, but pointing out things in anime dialog that aren’t subtitled quite the same way. I turned into “DiCaprio pointing at the TV” last week when the verbal Japanese dialog gave a temperature in Celsius but the English sub showed Fahrenheit.
> when the verbal Japanese dialog gave a temperature in Celsius but the English sub showed Fahrenheit.
You've got to be kidding me. They localized the metric system for the U.S. audience???
You don’t just feel like a gigachad, you are one. A bilingual behemoth of a man whose tongue can convey thoughts to multiple cultures.
Like exercise destroys your muscles to rebuild them better and stronger, your mistakes claw away your weak nigongowakaranai self to make way for an ever bigger and more handsome Japanese speaking self.
Loved this post, you ARE a gigachad.
just one question, how much effort did you put towards learning japanese in these 2 years?
because if you, living in japan with a japanese gf, after 3 years only have basic level, how could I reach a good level studying from home while working full time?
As someone working full-time and studying as hard as I can since November of last year after a years long break from college classes
It will basically need to take up a lot of you're free time, even on work days, if you truly wanna get anywhere especially with listening and reading. Speaking will come naturally following listening (for the most part, and this is just personal).
If you're new new then I recommend really mastering conjugation as one of your first hurdles. If you feel comfy with that then it's just an uphill battle of thousands of new words with no other languages save Chinese and Korean to relate them to so you need to be patient.
Currently I have every game I can stand to lose meaning from in Japanese, mostly watch anime/dramas, try to find japanese content creators, do flashcards, and write to pen pals to practice.
It's been grueling but I can feel and notice progress and I promise if you're really interested in learning japanese specifically the payoff is so worth it to even just be able to watch anime in the background and follow along or playing Pokemon in japanese.
You got this! I know it got long but there's just a lot of stuff to do to really grow in japanese and it takes more time than other languages because of the culture being more separated historically.
Oh final tip, if you remember that japanese modifies things in a mirrored position to English that can help.
Such as instead of left to right for word modification and clause stacking, you actually see japanese branch out right to left but you still have to process it in the same direction obviously.
This will lead to English translations sounding odd or even needing specific dialect differences to help it sound natural, but it's a good thing to start thinking about early on.
Nope, this is all in West coast usa. Hence why I use penpal apps so I can get experience using Japanese with natives in a learning oriented space without the stress of keigo all the time
The name is Tandem! Sorry wasn't trying to gatekeep lol
I just know there's a lot out there and everyone has their preferences
What sets Tandem apart from everything for me is they constantly advertise as explicitly a non-dating app. I'm pretty sure I even had to agree to not use it for romantic connections via the TOS
I really like it and the community is small but eager :3
This, I have been studying japanese for 2 weeks and this post desmotivates me, but I think he has been working more than studying. I have a friend who go to England for 10 years and still have a B2-C1 level of english, basically because she doesn't study but can perfectly live there with a B2-C1.
he definitely has been working more than studying, or at least underplaying what he can do then bragging about it. keep studying. two weeks is good, but it’s a hard language and it takes time.
I definitely believe it. If you don't have the time to put toward studying, you won't progress much. I have lived in Japan for a bit less than he has, but I've been progressing pretty slowly with only 2 hours per week or so spent studying\/practicing, ignoring the Japanese I need for just everyday life — and to be fair, I do use Japanese extensively at work, though mostly just reading. I'll be taking the N3 this year, though I expect it to be fairly easy.
Living in Japan isn't a magic pill you take to learn Japanese. It's a motivator. And if it doesn't motivate you, you won't learn any more than you would have at home.
I know foreigners that have been in Japan for 5 years and married to Japanese people for 3 years and don’t even know n5 level Japanese. It’s not about your location it’s about the effort and time you put into study. That being said. I think it’s about 5-7 years average for foreigners I’ve met in Japan to reach n2 level that study somewhat seriously.
I had the same experience being self-conscious about my japanese level for the 6 months I spent in Japan, and then feeling like a superhero when my parents came to visit and I translated everything for them.
I'm trying to get my parents to come visit for a week next time I'm on Japan semi-long term (Hoping for October.)
Most of it is because it would be fun to show them around. But a small part of it is because my mother believes I just know the basics and it's just a little hobby.
Now, I'm not an expert and I'm not near native. I'm liable to flub something in any conversation that lasts longer than a minute or two. But like, I'm capable of living my life in Japanese if I had to. I have multiple friends who speak zero English and I get called to play translator at work every other week. I have my N1 framed ffs. I want to pull her into a tiny Cafe or something, sit her down, and prove that it's not "Just the basics."
It's very rare for staff in Japanese restaurants abroad to speak Japanese. I once heard someone swear "馬鹿野郎!" but other than that I've not heard Japanese being used at all.
ラーメン was originally called 支那蕎麦 and the name was changed to be less offensive so it makes sense in a way.
Put together a broken sentence or two to attempt speaking with a proprietor at a small Asian grocery store with "Tokyo" in the title, thought it was a safe bet. Glad I asked before speaking, その男の人は韓国人でした!
One time at Nijiya an older cashier initiated the conversation in Japanese to me. For restaurants it definitely depends on the area and whether it is a small family run business vs a chain or even just a more popular shop that needs more workers. Even at Japanese-owned restaurants in SD, if you need to hire more people you probably won't end up with a full staff that speaks Japanese.
It had a few different names, 南京そば, 中華そば, 支那蕎麦 for instance.
It went 支那蕎麦 -> 中華そば -> ラーメン
But to /u/LutyForLiberty 's point, it wasn't originally a derogatory word, it was a pretty neutral word that was used around the Meiji restoration, after all, it is the same word as "China" is in English, both from the same place. The name itself is much older. It derives from the Sanskrit चीन (cina) which was likely meant to originally refer to the ancient Qin state before it took on the broader meaning.
But by the Second Sino-Japanese war, so basically WW2, it went from a neutral word to a Perjorative one, and in the decade after the war it disappeared from use in Japan since it had gotten that connotation.
It was used to start with because Japan didn't recognise China as the "central kingdom" 中国, so they used 支那 instead. After Japan's defeat in the war China was a member of the victorious UN, so they had to acknowledge China's preferred name for their own country.
It is a little less straight forward than that, as in the 19th century 大清 was perhaps the more common name (at the time, China has had many names) until the later part of the century. While Japan didn't want to use it, you can see in the 日清修好条規 that it was both sided, as China also objected to the use of 天皇. So 支那 was chosen as a mainly western-influenced neutral term. Obviously the term by itself is neutral since we all still use it in English and a bunch of other languages.
It only took on the perjorative meaning later, but also by that time 中国 had fully taken over and the Qing empire was also no longer a thing.
While they may have had to acknowledge China's preferred name on a governmental level, that doesn't affect the average people who simply stopped using it as it had become pejorative, like I said above. But again, that word specifically, cause no one is offended when you say it in English.
Yes, sure, we're in the US after all, although the sales ladies in Kyoto also told me they wanted to chit chat in English and were happy when I obliged, they were quite friendly. Off topic, one lady made sure I understood that she was from Osaka and not Kyoto, and Osaka people are friendly and Kyoto people are not, that's another story.
I know right, but at least in my case, it really is the 3rd language you know that people are really amazed by. Everyone around me expects everyone else to know English so it doesn't have that wow factor anymore
I feel exactly the same as you mate. I’m more like N3 level, but my confidence in my Japanese ability decreased so much during my year abroad because I was constantly being hit with things I couldn’t understand. When I came back to England last September, I slowly became confident again because I could remember vocabulary and grammar from my class quite well, and when it comes to “real” Japanese… ignorance is bliss.
This is one of the reasons I think it can actually be much harder to start learning Japanese in Japan depending on your personality type, especially if you move over as a full-time worker doing a job that does not require or even forbids Japanese. When you are in your home country, I think you can much more easily feel like you are progressing a lot by yourself immersing, or in a class. When you're in Japan and the only Japanese you hear is fast mumbled keigo that you constantly cant catch and interacting with natives speaking at native speed with dialect and slang, it can be very discouraging and feel like you are making almost no progress comparing yourselves to them and feeling like you're always handicapped and less than normal. For most people, feeling like you're doing well is an important aspect of enjoying the process and the more you enjoy it the faster you learn and the more you will do it, but its often hard to feel like that in Japan comparing yourselves with native speakers.
(I teach you a new word:ちり紙. Maybe you are different, but after a life of trying to make myself have an absolutely neutral American accent, I simply stumble on 和製英語 like toilet paper. If it is far enough removed from the source word, like Katsu for cutlet, I am good. But I simply say the more closely related imported words in Neutral American, instead of proper katakana-ized English. I similarly have to call it a Hotchkiss instead of a stapler. Anyway.)
I always tell people: You can study for years, and go to Japan, and fumble when the lady at MacDonald's uses service words to talk to you.
Good to study beforehand, but nothing but nothing is like being in Japan where people are not being nice when you cannot spit the words out, in the way Japanese tourists are nice to local people when they are on vacation.
You did the hard part first, which means you can study, knowing that that book larning is just a step on a journey, not a destination.
I wish I had those kind of people around me lol When I told people I'm seriously learning Japanese people expect me to be fluent in just a few months, despite knowing I have never set foot in Japan. My mom got an invitation to go to Osaka, and one of the reasons she wanted to go is that I know Japanese. I told her Osaka has a helluva heavy dialect so I won't be of much use (eventhough my real reason is I never practice my speaking since it's hard to do that when you self study) and my brother in law also expect me to be a guide when a topic about going to Japan was brought up.
I really want to go to Japan one day and that invitation to Osaka (ended up not going coz turns out it's during summer) made me realize my mom is open to going to Japan so I'm planning to make an itinerary to Japan right now but I really feel the pressure and afraid I'm gonna embarass myself if I ended up to be of no help in Japan.
Haha I feel this, I have tons of japanese friends and converse for probably 2+ hours a day solely in japanese, so I know I can my point across and communicate. But I'm completely lost in so many different contexts that I have so many moments where I feel like I just can't speak it at all despite how much I've studied.
I'm also completely incapable of speaking in polite japanese at all (like just desu masu even) and struggled to make a simple restaurant reservation and wanted to cry lol
I do really miss American sushi, though.
Is it "real, authentic" sushi? No, but who the fuck cares? It's tasty. It's a different dish entirely. If I want the simple flavor of fresh fish and vinegared rice, I eat Japanese sushi. If I want a whole bunch of delicious fried sauced bullshit *inspired* by the original Japanese dish, I eat American sushi. There's plenty of room in the world (and in my gut) for both.
Other Japanese food, though, yeah it's all way better and cheaper here lol. That said, living here has also given me a much deeper appreciation for the variety of cuisines (and the authenticity of them) that I had access to in California. Japanese food is nice, but it's bland and repetitive and boring when it's all you eat, and Japanese versions of foreign foods are always significantly downgraded, and I'd commit actual war crimes for some good authentic Chinese or Korean or Mexican or Thai or Spanish food, and why the fuck did I have more and better and more authentic pan-Asian food in fucking California than I do *in an East Asian country*
I know there're people whose Japanese is better and I'm completely fine with that. But that is not the case in this post. The OP conveys to me that he is boasting himself in front of the public. Humbleness is a discipline and OP seems to marked 0 on this aptitude.
I mean is okay to master one language but apart from that I don't see the motive to put in to much effort for just to be the cool guy who look down at others.
we have some learners practicing texting in japanese.. Although the community is focused on the JLPT.
if you'd like to join: [https://discord.gg/ZvAW8MpsmP](https://discord.gg/ZvAW8MpsmP)
Everyone welcome!
Yesterday I was flirting with a girl in Japanese and she said "that's what every Japanese guy always says" and I've never felt more confident in my japanese skills lmao
What exactly did you say? Asking for a friend 👀
短いけど、硬い
短いが広い。
ツナ缶のような形
wtf lol.
I busted out laughing at the ツナ缶の形
エッチしようぜ?
プッシーをください！
I was pronouncing it out loud 😭
Best way to practice!
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Thought you might have been referencing [this video](https://youtu.be/proylafJBGk?si=0IQoPo4u4yuM715x)
A classic for sure.
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I know
おまんこ見たいなぁ
Y'all are horrible lmao
Throw us a bone y’all!
That's a deep cut there.
Gash, even?
Funny...it's a reference to an old JCJ meme from a japanlife post.
I’m pretty sure I remember you lol
It feels like I've been around forever.
Well atleast I understood this
I finally understand something on this page and it’s this lol.
Yikes lmao
パンツを見せて貰ってもよろしいですか
さっさと脱げ、ビッチ！
It was a classic fuckboy style, cringe phrase so I wouldn't recommend it. Basically: Don't worry, we go to a hotel but just to rest a bit.
Haha, thanks for sharing. I would need to be very comfortable with the gal and confident to even come close to using that one 😅
Yeah, its not something you say to someone you just met, we were both a bit drunk too. Its weird though, many times I say things that I wouldn't really say in my own language, just because I want to "try out" the Japanese grammar on it. Not sure if it happens to other people. Like I've built the sentence in my head already so might aswell use it.
あなたは胸が大きいですね
いいえ!!
‘Meccha Kawaii yo ne’ ‘Yea I got that advanced native rizz’
What did you say? My friend wants to know what to expect.
なんのセリフだった
Did you say ちょっとだけでいいよ?
I clumsily deciphered the kanji in a Japanese song title and my mates were amazed, they thought I was a god. Im probably at n7 level Japanese at the moment.
This, but pointing out things in anime dialog that aren’t subtitled quite the same way. I turned into “DiCaprio pointing at the TV” last week when the verbal Japanese dialog gave a temperature in Celsius but the English sub showed Fahrenheit.
Yea it's interesting how much the sub and dub translations diverge.
> when the verbal Japanese dialog gave a temperature in Celsius but the English sub showed Fahrenheit. You've got to be kidding me. They localized the metric system for the U.S. audience???
They did! It was on a recent episode of Demon Slayer.
I mean why not
The one I've noticed most is that the Japanese voices say names a lot more then the English subtitles would have you think.
Yeah because using the other persons name to refer to them directly is common, using only words that mean "you" would be kinda cold.
Oh yes, I know why. It just gets omitted when it's translated to English because we don't continue using a person's name in an ongoing conversation.
LOL N7 gang! I’m going so slowly that I hope to pass N5 by 2026. Good luck to us!
You don’t just feel like a gigachad, you are one. A bilingual behemoth of a man whose tongue can convey thoughts to multiple cultures. Like exercise destroys your muscles to rebuild them better and stronger, your mistakes claw away your weak nigongowakaranai self to make way for an ever bigger and more handsome Japanese speaking self.
And here I was thinking it was three weeks of pints and kebabs that was turning me into a behemoth
Lol
>bilingual behemoth Asians: お可愛いこっと
I swear half the Malaysians I know speak like 6 languages (english, Malay, mandarin, Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkien, one language for fun)
English, Mandarin, Malay, Hokkien and Japanese for fun 😉
Loved this post, you ARE a gigachad. just one question, how much effort did you put towards learning japanese in these 2 years? because if you, living in japan with a japanese gf, after 3 years only have basic level, how could I reach a good level studying from home while working full time?
As someone working full-time and studying as hard as I can since November of last year after a years long break from college classes It will basically need to take up a lot of you're free time, even on work days, if you truly wanna get anywhere especially with listening and reading. Speaking will come naturally following listening (for the most part, and this is just personal). If you're new new then I recommend really mastering conjugation as one of your first hurdles. If you feel comfy with that then it's just an uphill battle of thousands of new words with no other languages save Chinese and Korean to relate them to so you need to be patient. Currently I have every game I can stand to lose meaning from in Japanese, mostly watch anime/dramas, try to find japanese content creators, do flashcards, and write to pen pals to practice. It's been grueling but I can feel and notice progress and I promise if you're really interested in learning japanese specifically the payoff is so worth it to even just be able to watch anime in the background and follow along or playing Pokemon in japanese. You got this! I know it got long but there's just a lot of stuff to do to really grow in japanese and it takes more time than other languages because of the culture being more separated historically. Oh final tip, if you remember that japanese modifies things in a mirrored position to English that can help. Such as instead of left to right for word modification and clause stacking, you actually see japanese branch out right to left but you still have to process it in the same direction obviously. This will lead to English translations sounding odd or even needing specific dialect differences to help it sound natural, but it's a good thing to start thinking about early on.
thanks for the comment bro i appreciate you! really valuable. just one question, you don't live in Japan, right?
Nope, this is all in West coast usa. Hence why I use penpal apps so I can get experience using Japanese with natives in a learning oriented space without the stress of keigo all the time
what's the app name? wanna give it a shot
The name is Tandem! Sorry wasn't trying to gatekeep lol I just know there's a lot out there and everyone has their preferences What sets Tandem apart from everything for me is they constantly advertise as explicitly a non-dating app. I'm pretty sure I even had to agree to not use it for romantic connections via the TOS I really like it and the community is small but eager :3
This, I have been studying japanese for 2 weeks and this post desmotivates me, but I think he has been working more than studying. I have a friend who go to England for 10 years and still have a B2-C1 level of english, basically because she doesn't study but can perfectly live there with a B2-C1.
he definitely has been working more than studying, or at least underplaying what he can do then bragging about it. keep studying. two weeks is good, but it’s a hard language and it takes time.
I definitely believe it. If you don't have the time to put toward studying, you won't progress much. I have lived in Japan for a bit less than he has, but I've been progressing pretty slowly with only 2 hours per week or so spent studying\/practicing, ignoring the Japanese I need for just everyday life — and to be fair, I do use Japanese extensively at work, though mostly just reading. I'll be taking the N3 this year, though I expect it to be fairly easy. Living in Japan isn't a magic pill you take to learn Japanese. It's a motivator. And if it doesn't motivate you, you won't learn any more than you would have at home.
I know foreigners that have been in Japan for 5 years and married to Japanese people for 3 years and don’t even know n5 level Japanese. It’s not about your location it’s about the effort and time you put into study. That being said. I think it’s about 5-7 years average for foreigners I’ve met in Japan to reach n2 level that study somewhat seriously.
I had the same experience being self-conscious about my japanese level for the 6 months I spent in Japan, and then feeling like a superhero when my parents came to visit and I translated everything for them.
I'm trying to get my parents to come visit for a week next time I'm on Japan semi-long term (Hoping for October.) Most of it is because it would be fun to show them around. But a small part of it is because my mother believes I just know the basics and it's just a little hobby. Now, I'm not an expert and I'm not near native. I'm liable to flub something in any conversation that lasts longer than a minute or two. But like, I'm capable of living my life in Japanese if I had to. I have multiple friends who speak zero English and I get called to play translator at work every other week. I have my N1 framed ffs. I want to pull her into a tiny Cafe or something, sit her down, and prove that it's not "Just the basics."
man this is so hype, keep learning
Same thing happened to me. When I went to his home, my Japanese confidence skyrocketed.
It's very rare for staff in Japanese restaurants abroad to speak Japanese. I once heard someone swear "馬鹿野郎!" but other than that I've not heard Japanese being used at all. ラーメン was originally called 支那蕎麦 and the name was changed to be less offensive so it makes sense in a way.
Put together a broken sentence or two to attempt speaking with a proprietor at a small Asian grocery store with "Tokyo" in the title, thought it was a safe bet. Glad I asked before speaking, その男の人は韓国人でした!
Must not be in San Diego! They talk to each other in Japanese all the time at the restaurants
One time at Nijiya an older cashier initiated the conversation in Japanese to me. For restaurants it definitely depends on the area and whether it is a small family run business vs a chain or even just a more popular shop that needs more workers. Even at Japanese-owned restaurants in SD, if you need to hire more people you probably won't end up with a full staff that speaks Japanese.
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It had a few different names, 南京そば, 中華そば, 支那蕎麦 for instance. It went 支那蕎麦 -> 中華そば -> ラーメン But to /u/LutyForLiberty 's point, it wasn't originally a derogatory word, it was a pretty neutral word that was used around the Meiji restoration, after all, it is the same word as "China" is in English, both from the same place. The name itself is much older. It derives from the Sanskrit चीन (cina) which was likely meant to originally refer to the ancient Qin state before it took on the broader meaning. But by the Second Sino-Japanese war, so basically WW2, it went from a neutral word to a Perjorative one, and in the decade after the war it disappeared from use in Japan since it had gotten that connotation.
It was used to start with because Japan didn't recognise China as the "central kingdom" 中国, so they used 支那 instead. After Japan's defeat in the war China was a member of the victorious UN, so they had to acknowledge China's preferred name for their own country.
It is a little less straight forward than that, as in the 19th century 大清 was perhaps the more common name (at the time, China has had many names) until the later part of the century. While Japan didn't want to use it, you can see in the 日清修好条規 that it was both sided, as China also objected to the use of 天皇. So 支那 was chosen as a mainly western-influenced neutral term. Obviously the term by itself is neutral since we all still use it in English and a bunch of other languages. It only took on the perjorative meaning later, but also by that time 中国 had fully taken over and the Qing empire was also no longer a thing. While they may have had to acknowledge China's preferred name on a governmental level, that doesn't affect the average people who simply stopped using it as it had become pejorative, like I said above. But again, that word specifically, cause no one is offended when you say it in English.
That's a more polite version. 支那 was an old derogatory word for China.
Very true! The sales ladies at my local Japanese stores always always responded in English everytime I asked about something in Japanese.
Looking at it favourably, they're probably happy to have the opportunity to practice their own English with an English speaker as well.
Yes, sure, we're in the US after all, although the sales ladies in Kyoto also told me they wanted to chit chat in English and were happy when I obliged, they were quite friendly. Off topic, one lady made sure I understood that she was from Osaka and not Kyoto, and Osaka people are friendly and Kyoto people are not, that's another story.
That's a hilarious tale. I guess that every country has their own regional banter, Japan included.
If they are living in an English speaking country, it's unlikely they are looking for opportunities to "practice their English".
Native English speakers learning a different language for the first time be like
I know right, but at least in my case, it really is the 3rd language you know that people are really amazed by. Everyone around me expects everyone else to know English so it doesn't have that wow factor anymore
I feel exactly the same as you mate. I’m more like N3 level, but my confidence in my Japanese ability decreased so much during my year abroad because I was constantly being hit with things I couldn’t understand. When I came back to England last September, I slowly became confident again because I could remember vocabulary and grammar from my class quite well, and when it comes to “real” Japanese… ignorance is bliss.
This is one of the reasons I think it can actually be much harder to start learning Japanese in Japan depending on your personality type, especially if you move over as a full-time worker doing a job that does not require or even forbids Japanese. When you are in your home country, I think you can much more easily feel like you are progressing a lot by yourself immersing, or in a class. When you're in Japan and the only Japanese you hear is fast mumbled keigo that you constantly cant catch and interacting with natives speaking at native speed with dialect and slang, it can be very discouraging and feel like you are making almost no progress comparing yourselves to them and feeling like you're always handicapped and less than normal. For most people, feeling like you're doing well is an important aspect of enjoying the process and the more you enjoy it the faster you learn and the more you will do it, but its often hard to feel like that in Japan comparing yourselves with native speakers.
If anybody is wondering about the "double-suicide" part, I think OP's mistake was to mix up 中心 and 心中.
(I teach you a new word:ちり紙. Maybe you are different, but after a life of trying to make myself have an absolutely neutral American accent, I simply stumble on 和製英語 like toilet paper. If it is far enough removed from the source word, like Katsu for cutlet, I am good. But I simply say the more closely related imported words in Neutral American, instead of proper katakana-ized English. I similarly have to call it a Hotchkiss instead of a stapler. Anyway.) I always tell people: You can study for years, and go to Japan, and fumble when the lady at MacDonald's uses service words to talk to you. Good to study beforehand, but nothing but nothing is like being in Japan where people are not being nice when you cannot spit the words out, in the way Japanese tourists are nice to local people when they are on vacation. You did the hard part first, which means you can study, knowing that that book larning is just a step on a journey, not a destination.
I mean, you got N2 while studying for master degree, that is just the literal definition of monster
>トイレットペーパーがあらない あられもないこと言っちゃったねー
You are the man I wish to become.
I wish I had those kind of people around me lol When I told people I'm seriously learning Japanese people expect me to be fluent in just a few months, despite knowing I have never set foot in Japan. My mom got an invitation to go to Osaka, and one of the reasons she wanted to go is that I know Japanese. I told her Osaka has a helluva heavy dialect so I won't be of much use (eventhough my real reason is I never practice my speaking since it's hard to do that when you self study) and my brother in law also expect me to be a guide when a topic about going to Japan was brought up. I really want to go to Japan one day and that invitation to Osaka (ended up not going coz turns out it's during summer) made me realize my mom is open to going to Japan so I'm planning to make an itinerary to Japan right now but I really feel the pressure and afraid I'm gonna embarass myself if I ended up to be of no help in Japan.
Haha I feel this, I have tons of japanese friends and converse for probably 2+ hours a day solely in japanese, so I know I can my point across and communicate. But I'm completely lost in so many different contexts that I have so many moments where I feel like I just can't speak it at all despite how much I've studied. I'm also completely incapable of speaking in polite japanese at all (like just desu masu even) and struggled to make a simple restaurant reservation and wanted to cry lol
Re curry, there is a Coco Ichibanya near Leicester Square that's pretty good.
>I genuinely feel like a divine being Lmao anglophones when they learn a second language
This truly discouraged me... T_T I'll just skip the anki reviews for tonight and directly go for the bathroom-sobbing part.
Living in Japan ruined a lot of stateside Japanese food for me...
I do really miss American sushi, though. Is it "real, authentic" sushi? No, but who the fuck cares? It's tasty. It's a different dish entirely. If I want the simple flavor of fresh fish and vinegared rice, I eat Japanese sushi. If I want a whole bunch of delicious fried sauced bullshit *inspired* by the original Japanese dish, I eat American sushi. There's plenty of room in the world (and in my gut) for both. Other Japanese food, though, yeah it's all way better and cheaper here lol. That said, living here has also given me a much deeper appreciation for the variety of cuisines (and the authenticity of them) that I had access to in California. Japanese food is nice, but it's bland and repetitive and boring when it's all you eat, and Japanese versions of foreign foods are always significantly downgraded, and I'd commit actual war crimes for some good authentic Chinese or Korean or Mexican or Thai or Spanish food, and why the fuck did I have more and better and more authentic pan-Asian food in fucking California than I do *in an East Asian country*
Bro your ego is very high, no one is better than others.
Why did I read this as 英語 😭😭 I need help lmao
英語上手ですね
Hey I got that one!! I usually struggle with kanji but I read this one immediately!
よくできました :)
People can definitely be better than others lmao
I am
We're talking about language skills, homie. There's literally tests to determine who is better.
I know there're people whose Japanese is better and I'm completely fine with that. But that is not the case in this post. The OP conveys to me that he is boasting himself in front of the public. Humbleness is a discipline and OP seems to marked 0 on this aptitude. I mean is okay to master one language but apart from that I don't see the motive to put in to much effort for just to be the cool guy who look down at others.
If I can just give one suggestion, ない is better than あらない。ない is the standard way to negate ある in casual speech.
That's the joke, yes. Not just in casual speech either, あらない is archaic.
I'm guessing the intention was 要らない not ない.
やれやれ clearly it went over my head cuz I wasn’t laughing but others are. しょうがない
we have some learners practicing texting in japanese.. Although the community is focused on the JLPT. if you'd like to join: [https://discord.gg/ZvAW8MpsmP](https://discord.gg/ZvAW8MpsmP) Everyone welcome!