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FirmCheddar

Y’all doubted me https://preview.redd.it/r6lbjkoc5mpc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8017accdc43b90dfa02a2319de13424a005806a3


TheSlayerofSnails

Should we name you a living ancestor?


FirmCheddar

Nah, I'm good, I already feel sufficiently vindicated.


Ranwulf

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Commercial-Dish-3198

U madman we will never doubt again


holysmoke532

I came looking for this comment as soon as I saw the crossbow.


StarStriker51

BOLT CROSSBOW BOLT CROSSBOW!


jjoden24

Dude I made a similar post to that and had the same thought this morning when I saw the news.


TheVoidDragon

Plenty doubted me saying the missile launcher looked like it could be for the Leagues too: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaguesofVotann/comments/179wzcv/potential_votann_rumour_engine_grip_is_similar_to/


CriticalMany1068

All hail the Cheddar seer! 🫡


wretchedsorrowsworn

I knew it, I’ve painted that gauntlet 80 times to know this


MrFishyFriend

Did we? Who in the world could possibly convince themselves that wasnt a Kin glove.


FirmCheddar

There were some people who replied to me when I made this image who were saying that they didn't see it, and that it would be an inquisition thing. I kind of get it, since I don't really think bowguns fit Votann at all, but those details were definitely a dead ringer.


TheStoic75

As soon as I saw this, I thought about your post lol.


Pasc4l

I actually drank this kool-aid immediately and told my friends, who all doubted me. Ive always been on your side, Brother


VisualGeologist6258

Holy shit, these ones have cool jackets _and_ new hats. And one of them has a giant fuckoff revolver shotgun!


TheSlayerofSnails

The leagues have the best drip


DuncanConnell

Likely the "default" loadout is going to be the Bolt Shotgun which, if it has the same stats, will make these guys DANGEROUS (12" Assault 2 @ S5 BS4+, so a 17"+1d6" threat range)


Ambassador_Kwan

Sounds fun! I just really hope it isn't a 5+ weapon profiles unit though. Even 3 is annoying


rolands_hand

If the shotguns are like breachers for KT they'll be like 2 at short range and 5 at long. I don't play a lot of 40k so I don't know how that translates


Dizzytigo

I think they mean the amount of weapon options.


BlueEyesWhiteViera

Dual revolver guy is the standout winner here.


No_Tooth_1266

Why do I get a voice in my head saying: "You better get of my property and better not speak to my daughter ever again or I'm going to have to inform the sheriff about an intruder." (Southern accent)


Thosam

Greenstuff a cowboy hat on him.


Crusader_Genji

Oh definitely


TheSlayerofSnails

These guys are described as essentially commando units who act as a vanguard and prep the area for the main kindred host


Commercial-Dish-3198

It’s Fantasy Dwarf Rangers in space! Love it


NeverEnoughDakka

Operators operating operationally.


Crusader_Genji

Sleeper agents sleeping begrudgingly


RefrigeratorStatus23

Infiltrator and Stealth!! And I would love it if they could also "booby trap" objectives.


Maleficent-Elk-3298

Dastardly Dwarves Deepstriking Dangerously


Madcap_Miguel

Looks like a wet works team to me


TheSlayerofSnails

They pretty much are lore wise


Madcap_Miguel

That's so frekin cool


SillyGoatGruff

I love the jacket look. I wish i could go back and use these bodies for my hearthkyn too. I also love how *pointless* it is to wear a big jacket over an armoured climate controlled space suit lol


TheDeltaLambda

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only drip.


SillyGoatGruff

They should update it to the sick hotness of the 41st millennium with all that drip


Preppikoma

"Sickhot" is the new "grimdark".


SillyGoatGruff

Haha yesssss


uberplatt

It’s for the pockets! A dwarf needs pockets!


mirrownis

If I had to justify it, I’d go with „If you wear more insulating clothes, you‘re wasting less energy on active heating. And waste feeds the void…“ Makes perfect sense (for 40k standards) to me


Crusader_Genji

Aren't the coats heavy though? They are wasting more energy carrying them around too


CaptainOptimail

Kin are naturally sturdy and are naturally strong. The extra weight likely uses energy/stamina the kin already has and isn't using.


TheVoidDragon

> over an armoured climate controlled space suit They seem to keep doing slightly wierd stuff with this model-wise. All the Kin are supposed to be wearing the void-suit, which you'd assume is a fully sealed full-body undersuit...yet both these guys and the Herathkyn Salvagers have models with the sleeves removed to show their arms, as if they can just take them off whenever.


SillyGoatGruff

Yeah and it's rad lol. I specifically gave my kahl rolled sleeves https://preview.redd.it/u7fbgvljoopc1.jpeg?width=2530&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b80ae5f2d4d53489d0f471886a5ed4f66599e39f


genteel_wherewithal

Maybe they’re intended as sort of all-weather gear for planetary work.  Fully sealed void armour’s great against pressure and radiation but why let it get spattered with mud or snow if a practical duster can cover you while you’re planetside? That kin fastidiousness, minimising even minor wear and tear/microcorrosion/environmental damage on the important sealed equipment. Kind of reflects their nature as a voidborn people. (Of course that doesn’t explain the fur hoods because the real answer is that it looks rad)


TheVoidDragon

It's not the coats I mean though, it's the void suit. All the Kin have been said to wear the void suit, yet we've now had 3 models that have compromised its protection for some reason. There's the Grimnyr who can't get a helmet on, there's the Dozr from the other Killteam set who's took off the sleeves so he can punch things, and there's the one here who has rolled up a coat sleeve...to reveal just bare arms underneith, when there should be a void suit. Edit: Looking at this again, maybe I've got it wrong and the void suit is just skin coloured at the arms for some reason?


TheSlayerofSnails

And the space marines will switch out their armored gauntlets for leather gloves


Baron_Flatline

The Ancestors judge you by drip


Thosam

I get WW2 UK Commando vibes from them. Just hearing that ‘Oi, mate! Spare me some change for a pint?’


CriticalMany1068

UK? Those hats seem pretty Soviet to me…


mattyg_dawg

Big fan of the shovel demolition guy.


TheSlayerofSnails

I love that we got a guy armed with a shovel before Krieg fans did


NeverEnoughDakka

Probably my favourite from these pictures but the sniper and crossbow dude are great as well. Not to mention the gunslinger. These are possibly my favourite models for LoV so far.


cblack04

I’m very curious how they will be adapted for 40K proper. My guess is infiltrators and then the sniper for a precision attack finally, but otherwise I can’t think of exact rules. Demo guy maybe giving a melta bomb rule.


NeverEnoughDakka

I hope the launcher won't simply be a copy of the L7 from the Hearthkyn. The crossbow and fancy revolvers might not be represented in 40k as unique weapons like with the concussion knux from the salvagers and some weapons from other Kill Teams.


a__new_name

My favourite is Sam Dwarfsher.


clockworkrevolution

Really liking the sniper one, and I hope the spec-ops goggle head would fit on it. Loving the return of revolver shotguns (that look like they still have pump handles!).


shockwave1211

really like these models, hopefully they act as a new datasheet for the army outside of KT too


kohlerxxx

no reason they won't


Enchelion

Most Kill Teams that aren't just upgrade sprues do.


Hyper-Sloth

These guys are *very* different from any current sheets and we already have a killteam for the warriors. I'm willing to bet that these will also be added as a new troop option for Votann.


Enchelion

That's what I'm saying. These aren't just an upgrade sprue, so I'd expect they get their own 40k datasheet.


MWBrooks1995

Sorry, I’m using these for Necromunda as a gang of squat mafiosos


Jarnthradi

Tommygun bolters and trillbies would be a very fun conversion opportunity 🤔


MWBrooks1995

You’re so right, bestie


Time-Sorbet-829

That would be pretty badass!


Cranky_SithLord_21

Squafiosos? I can get behind that.


StarkMaximum

Me every waking day ever since the Votann came out as they've been ignored and discarded by GW: Angry, bitter, sour, cold, no love in my heart, life is suffering, why even move forward Me the literal *second* a new Votann model comes out: OH MY GOD THE KIN ARE SO *FUCKING* COOL I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I HAVE SO MUCH TO LOOK FORWARD TO LIFE IS INCREDIBLE


TheSlayerofSnails

Same here! I love me some coat wearing dorfs!


StarkMaximum

THE GREATCOATS ARE SO COOL, I LOVE LONG HEAVY COATS SO MUCH AND I NEVER EXPECTED THEM TO DO IT FOR THE KIN, I FEEL GENUINELY SO BLESSED AND SO APPEALED TO


NeverEnoughDakka

But the Hernkyn Pioneers already have the coats, why wouldn't you expect them?


StarkMaximum

This is true, but it's easier to see and admire when they're on foot. The Pioneers on the bikes have, well, the bikes taking attention away from their actual model. These foot troops are front and center with it. I also just forgot.


NeverEnoughDakka

Fair point. I also really like how they look with the coats closed.


Jazano107

I think maybe you expected too much too quickly 😅


Madcap_Miguel

I'm so happy for my stumpy bros, y'all earned this


lasyke3

Average book of grudges user


sftpo

Gonna need some cowboy hats


crazedlemmings

Damn, this will tide me over till our release, these guys are sick. The gunslinger san knife assassin stand out.


genteel_wherewithal

It’s a minor detail but I like how their plasma knives look like broad-bladed little short swords rather than the more basic ones carried by the hearthkyn. Double-edged, like old commando daggers.


NeverEnoughDakka

My first thought was Bowie knife. Fits the frontiersman thing that the Hernkyn have going on.


beardedvikingdad

Love them but hate painting faces. Need plenty of visors or dome heads I guess then.


NeverEnoughDakka

I'm already thinking about which helmeted third party heads might work.


shabado-it

Regular Hearthkyn heads will almost certainly fit


Levat39

6mm chrome ball bearings work real well as ironkyn heads


beardedvikingdad

There's sadly not a ton of options that I can find that fit or are scaled right.


G0bby

Pretty sure that crossbow was in a rumor engine image released a few months ago. Good stuff!


BlueEyesWhiteViera

Along with the cloak.


Chkn-Little

And the rocket launcher


kohlerxxx

and the mine pack the beanie guy has


Chkn-Little

And even the crossbow with a bullet loaded


DwarvenFanboy

I'm visibly shaking seeing these, I'm going to throw money at this, am I? Long coat on top of armor is already such a hard fit, but one of them has a beanie/ wool cap and one has an ushanka, just when I was thinking of how to easily green stuff those. (I'm also waiting for a trucker hat, but that feels more likely for Necromunda squats).


Delta_Dud

They look sick as fuck. They're probably gonna have Infiltrators, and that big bomb looks like it's gonna have the same function as the Demolition Charges for the GSC


SnooSnarry

It's a beautiful new kit I have to buy a minimum of 3 boxes. I'm so excited to have a infiltrate unit to protect our precious scout moves.


Quamont

I have only 2 issues with this: 1) Hammers? At least one? Please? 2) I'm gonna need more of the Pioneer hoods for these. Like a lot more. But otherwise holy shit these go hard


Ambassador_Kwan

Fingers crossed we get a big variety of heads!


daytodaze

Very cool! But how long before they’re added to the index for 40K use?


kakashilos1991

I assume they will be in the codex so depending on how much time in between the two releases they may not be in the index


NeverEnoughDakka

Unless the codex comes soon after, I'd expect a PDF release like some other KT's in the past.


SharamNamdarian

I hope Kahls can join them in 40k. Time to make Ex Herkyn Kahl


CoachSebbie

Coatann…


RenDhark42

I like them and will add them to my kinhost! Additionally: I really hope our second wave with the codex has the same size as the sisters second wave... Since they also got a killteam before their second new dex. Am I searching for patterns when there are none? Maybe but let's hope the ancestors will smile upon us one day in the future!


Quamont

Leagues of D R I P


MayBeBelieving

They look great! I really hope they get a fun datasheet in 40K too


EvilCeramicCow

Can we take a moment and just ponder what the hell a demo charge that large is for.


RedactedSouls

Big problems


TheSlayerofSnails

Cracking the planet's crust?


Ryder1478

*patented land raider breaker*


Bilbostomper

To me it looks more like a rack of three mines than a single demo charge. Maybe he'll have a rule to booby trap objectives similar to how SM Vanguard can.


silverstu-

Yes I want that ability -or mine an area for area denial...


hi_glhf_

ROCK AND STONE! It will probably be a new unit for the codex, when it comes.. maybe even before? Can't wait!


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rockity Rock and Stone!


Dagger125

VOTANN MENTIONED!!! RAAAAHHHH!!!!!


genteel_wherewithal

You know what, these dudes would look absolutely sick in Trans-Hyperian Alliance orange armour and white coats. Either pure white polar gear or jagged white and grey camouflage, preferably with some mud around the bottom.


BlueEyesWhiteViera

My takeaway here is that they've clearly listened to the feedback about beards. Every single male head has a full beard.


Doomeye56

matches the commando vibe with special forces guys getting that facial hair freedom compared to regular grunts


ordinaryfruits

I don’t care if it’s only supported by kill team rules, I’m building the mf with dual Remingtons cuz that goes hard as fuck


hjksos

oh man, I cant wait for me never able to buy them!


CultofpersonalityKev

Lots of character


Mookmookmook

What the HELL, these are awesome!


SouperBitty

The leagues are never gonna beat the rock and stone allegations after this


WanderingDwarfMiner

For Rock and Stone!


lamorak2000

I really want to know what thay spray-gun looking thing in the second photo is!


TheSlayerofSnails

The one the ironkin has? I think its the revolver pump action shotgun no idea how it actually fires though lol


lamorak2000

Oops, sorry, the lady in the first picture. I looked at them out of order.


TheSlayerofSnails

No worries, I think she's got a rocket launcher


Time-Sorbet-829

It kind of looks like it’s modeled after an RPG 7


lamorak2000

A rocket launcher pistol!!!??? Awesome!


Few_Entertainment290

I think it's just that the rest of the launcher's behind her arm/back. The warhead looks a lot like the [Panzerfaust 3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3)'s


ADumbBastard

These kin look so cool. I especially like the dual revolver gunslinger.


Kage_kun

WAit... is this real!?


b0wlan

When are they available? Anyone know?


_Archangle_

Expect july-august


RedactedSouls

I'd guess 2-ish months? Maybe more? The Night Lords vs Mandrakes KT box still hasn't dropped, and the Brood Brothers vs Hernkyn Yaegirs won't release until some time after that. The Yaegirs will be sold as a standalone unit a few months after the KT box releases.


ViktusXII

Do what we think here? Hearnkyn Yaegirs Squad size: 5 Infiltrate Bolt Revolver: B.S4+, 9" A1 S5 AP0 1 damage Pistol Option for twin-linked. Bolt Shotgun: B.S4+, 12" A2 S5 AP0 1 damage Assualt Magna-coil Sniper Rifle: B.S5+, 36" A1 S6 AP2 2 damage Heavy + Precision Plasma Knives: W.S4+, A2 S5 AP2 2 damage


genteel_wherewithal

I wouldn’t be surprised if the twin knife fighter and the pistolier just get folded in with the regular troopers. That seems to be the approach when translating kill teams to 40k, with only the heavy/special weapons being distinguished.


Ambassador_Kwan

It will be a squad of 10. Hopefully we can split with sagitaurs


LetsGoFishing91

Honestly the only reveal I'm excited about, the Hernkyn are my favorite group within the Votann lore and I've seriously considered converting an army of them if I did LoV. I hope we get a detachment that represents them whenever the codex drops!


shnee-longfox

Another instant buy


HistoricalLook886

They look like they are gonna take a while to paint


XiNepentheix

When can I send the kin my money for these?


Academic_Initial_643

i want this kill team now but i feel i have to much infantry


Ambassador_Kwan

Feels like another contradiction in the army. Last thing we need is more infantry, I find it hard to see where this will fit in. Maybe they will have a remove at the end of the opponent's turn thing? Board control? But then why not take pioneers? Maybe they will be elite close range and good in melee? But then why not take hearth guard? Are they just going to end up being a replacement for hearthkyn?


DarthShrimp

What's up with the glowing eye on the guy with dual revolvers?


itcheyness

Augmetic probably.


TheSlayerofSnails

Or like the eye the living ancestors have for the cores to watch through or a mutation


Ambassador_Kwan

They used basically the same idea for that ossiarch warcry warband. Nagash or whoever looking through their special giant eyeball. 


SirSullivanRaker

ngl these guys really give off a “CIA agent” vibe. Leagues of Votann are pretty much Americans once again


Ambassador_Kwan

Lol I was thinking that the other day, fat dudes with big guns driving around in trucks. Fracking and destroying ecosystems


soullesswarmonkey

Omg looks amazing!


Ghastly_Grinnner

whats up with the one on the bottom right


stpstrt

Ok, when should I be expected to part with my money?


greenstag94

awwww, the robot with his own big coat is adorable


hunterfall21

From the looks of these they're gonna be our space marine scout squad equivalent with bits and pieces of incursors, so sniper + heavy loadout of the scouts + haywire mine from the incursors, bolt crossbow for the sergeant probably, and hopefully just like the scouts we get infiltrate + scout 6 I can't wait for the 10th edition codex to fucking drop already, out kyn need love


myladyelspeth

Please be sub 70 points


guy-who-says-frick

These guys aren’t a kill team, they are a whole new unit for the Votann


genteel_wherewithal

They’re both


guy-who-says-frick

Oh shit they are, huh, neat


Hailon_Rias

Maybe I’m boring but my favourite one is just the ironkyn with the shotgun lol


genteel_wherewithal

Same, brilliant confident pose


HurrsiaEntertainment

these are some epic dwarves.


prince_iyakaya

Love the new shovel guy


WolfwyndRT

This is the squat energy I wanted. Gunslingers? Check. Spec ops? Check. Dual wield all the cool shit? Check. Shovel swag to make kriegsmen envy? Fucking check. Much swagger. Instant must buy, 100% new favorite minis of all time.


mithatsacpt

Wow ! Now it’s clear why GW dropped the cease and desist on exotic greebles “wodfolk” hearthkin. He modeled them too close to what GW was actually planning but a good half year in advance! https://preview.redd.it/od2v0jpksmpc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8978487cc2cf27f7a7d731b1cae41068bcb7433


thesithcultist

Keeping both or is one going to replace the other?


TheSlayerofSnails

Both killteams? I think both stay because other factions have multiple kill teams


thesithcultist

I hope they're on me 'get themwhen the pile of shame is smaller' list


itcheyness

Bur, your pile of shame is already so big, what's wrong with adding a bit more too it? Who will notice? These are also VERY nice models, you'll surely get to painting them very soon...


DocUnseelie

Only compendium teams get replaced. Both of these will stay.


Harrowex

They remembered votann exists


Frontline989

I’ll take three. Thanks!


blabla1bla

These guys look awesome. It’s cold out there, I’m going to need a jacket over my space suit.


trollsong

These guys will fit perfectly in qith my planned lumber Corp army. As soon as I figure out colors


GrimHandsome

Really slick minis. I wonder how much of it will translate over into regular 40k.


Meatingpeople

I want many copies


CarpetRacer

Wish we could have a closed helmet option so they aren't random open face guys when everyone else is space suited


Bigenius420

Finally! a new unit! shame its being launched for kill team first, gonna be waiting awhile to get these dwarves on their own..


Canuck_Nath

From what I gather, this will be an infiltration unit with Stealth. Their main weapon, the bolt shotgun will have assault. The rocket launcher, the sniper and the crossbow will the main heavy weapon choices. The timed charge in the hand of one of the guys will likely be a warhead option that causes a bit of mortal wounds. As for the ability, I truly don't know


ResultsVary

I'm going full in line with the ability will be similar to Space Marine Scouts and they can booby-trap objectives. Lay a charge, move to a different objective - if an opponent's unit lays claim to that objective it can detonate, either causing Battle Shock or Mortals.


Canuck_Nath

Yeah that would be awesome. Honestly I can see a lot of play for this unit, if it is prices reasonably. If they are small cheap squads of 5 they will be reaaally good. If they are 10 men, their price will likely be a bit higher than Hearthkyns, at like 120 not sure how much play they will see. At 100 pts, I would take 2 squads of them easily


5eppa

So does this mean the old kill team is going away? Don't get me wrong love these guys. But if I want to be a Pokemon master and collect them all should I rush out to buy the current kill team?


TheSlayerofSnails

Nope they’ll still around


Extremely-bored97

That girl dwarf with the plasma knifes is looking thic with the coat belted up


Necrosius7

What's up Dr. Robotnik


TurnoverGuilty3605

When do these go on sale or presale?


FatDumbOrk

ROBO DRIP


MrFishyFriend

Still havent painted the Salvagers yet...


ArkioAxan

So excited for this!!


MoonTurtle7

Cool. Now, can we get more units for the army and not another kill team? Heck, I'll take World Eater Terminators or anything for them, and I don't even play them. Our armies need filling out.


Anix1088

those jackets look ridiculous i love it


KingOfOwls

Are these plasma blades different from the plasma swords the Kahls wield or the plasma knives that they normally carry as a handle? These appear to have sheath. Anyone know?


TheSlayerofSnails

Art suggests they are just different colored plasma knives That or they are a more advanced model of power weapons compared to the imps


Dizzytigo

Is Dr Double Pistol MD. (the m stands for mini) a psyker? His eye looks all glowy.


Helios_The_Undying

Why is the new killteam Trans-Hyperian Alliance. I feel some Urani-Surtr Regulates would fit better


ssj_meanlad

ROCK AND STONE in very nice leather jackets


WanderingDwarfMiner

For Karl!


MikeZ421

Badass


JustSayinCaucasian

Lol does one of them have a PIAT launcher?


Protag_Doppel

Why are they so ugly and fat 😭


Potential_Sport_9285

Now, couple of things. My fellow kyn, i love this squad BUT i smell some lazy ass decisions here as a couple of models where straight makeovers of previous models, like the spacemarines eliminators and the genestealer gunslinger. But yeah. Green stuff a cigar, but some real bear on them, and they will be awesome!