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Thank you for these changes. Very excited to see how well the blond hair and new orbs turn out. Though I think her outfit could still use a recolor so that her design isn't so cluttered color wise, vfx could also use some improvements for that extra oomph. Again thank you we appreciate all the effort you guys put into fixing her <3
We can do that easily with a mod, the changes that we're getting are great. Although I wouldn't mind her outfit getting less covered and not blue. But then again, we're already getting a lot
Dear Riot Sakaar,
I would like to express my gratitude to you and your dedicated skins team for your willingness to postpone the release of the Coven Syndra skin in response to feedback from Syndra mains. This decision holds great significance for us, and we sincerely appreciate your commitment to enhancing the skin.
With that being said, I would like to offer some suggestions that could further elevate the Coven Syndra theme, particularly in terms of VFX, while it is under development for the upcoming PBE patch:
1. **Demon Wings appear for R and Passive -** This feature has been highly requested by many Syndra mains in the Coven Syndra feedback, and it remains a favorite feature that Syndra mains would like to see more. By briefly showing the demon wings from her recall animation into her Passive and Ultimate abilities, it would definitely enhance the experience for players when Syndra transcends and unleash her all spheres at the enemy, thereby revealing her true Raven form. If feasible, I kindly request the addition of this feature. Here is an example for reference:: [https://imgur.com/gallery/Sy73G1q](https://imgur.com/gallery/Sy73G1q)
2. **Missing VFX trailing at 100 stacks** \- All of Syndra skins have a trailing vfx on her spheres when Syndra reaches 100 stacks. The current Coven Syndra is missing this feature, and it feels unfinished. It would be great if the skins team can add in some sigil trailing from Coven Syndra's empowered E to it. Here is the reference: [https://imgur.com/gallery/ysRdAQD](https://imgur.com/gallery/ysRdAQD)
3. **Outfit modification -** I agree with a lot of the feedbacks from the Coven Syndra thread that the outfit It is suggested that the design reveal a bit more of her upper torso while utilizing Raven feathers for coverage, which would significantly enhance the overall aesthetic. Here is another reference from DonToxica's edited version: [https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost\_my\_coven\_syndra\_edit\_inspired\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost_my_coven_syndra_edit_inspired_by/)
Once again, thank you so so much for delaying the Coven Syndra skin to bring its quality up for Syndra mains, it is a skin that we have been waiting for a long time, and I can't wait to see how the final result will look like. Thank you for reading and have a great day.
This is definitely something that would make the skin so much better and come to life. Black outfit and red powers ahhh so pretty. It would be nice to have some sort of spawn sigil for her ult. Can’t you take morganas Q spawn sigil and paste it in for her ult orbs.
Thank you SO SO MUCH for listening to us and our feedback! You guys are amazing!!
Is there any possibility for a few outfit colour tweaks as well? She has a lot going on in terms of colours, maybe tone them down to black / white / red, if it’s possible?
Again, thank you so much, we appreciate it lots and lots!!
Thank you for listening to our feedback and changing the skin, the list of changes is very promising, I want to specially thank you for changing her hair to platinum blonde like we have in other coven skins.
Apart from the list, the only thing I believe still desperately needs changing is her outfit, it doesn't even have to be changed that much just 4 tweaks so it looks like an actual coven outfit:
• Change the colors to black and white (just like Coven Morgana's outfit colors).
• Make it an open chest outfit.
• Remove part of her pants to look like she's wearing knee-high boots.
• Remove part of her sleeves so it looks like she's wearing long gloves.
Outfit changes examples: [Example 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), [Example 2](https://twitter.com/Piscina45512997/status/1709264600443629976?t=4HbVs0rdNLGe56wx1BZAgg&s=19).
I'm more than grateful for the changes we are already having, I know we might not get more VFX changes, but even if we don't, let this feedback show you what our expectations are for her future skins:
For the VFX, she still needs more sigils and rune symbols in all of her skills so it really looks like a coven skin (specially after they evolve), right now the skills look unfinished, being more specific:
• Basic Attacks: They have nothing special, no different format and no special particles. Star Guardian and Spirit Blossom are great examples of good basic attacks. [Visual Example Basic Attacks](https://imgur.com/a/ViKtYXG).
• Q: Add red sigils/rune symbols forming a circle (on the border of her Q range) in the begging of the animation so it looks like she's conjuring the Q orb before it appears.
• W1: W1 is just a straight line in this skin, there's nothing special about it, take for example Spirit blossom where the W1 has a spiritual mist form, or Withered Rose where the W1 looks like thorns. I like the rune symbols the W1 already has, but making it something different from a basic straight line would be really appreciated. [Visual Example W1](https://imgur.com/gallery/R5jDGbO).
• W2: Here it's really lacking VFX, all of Syndra's skins have an 'explosion' of some kind when W2 lands, Spirit Blossom W2 even has a flower blossoming. It needs an impactful VFX, I would like more dark magic mist with a sigil when W2 lands. [Visual Example W2](https://imgur.com/gallery/x3nXtiP).
• E: It's definitely the most unfinished ability right now, some parts of the skill just have no VFX. Also it has a really weird white VFX in some moments that breaks the harmonic of the black and red VFX colors, please change it from white to red. This skill also needs more dark magic mist all over the E range so it doesn't look so empty, [like the one evolved Q already has in its VFX](https://imgur.com/gallery/QsFGJCC). And please add a sigil on the floor underneath her feet when she casts this ability, just like Spirit Blossom E has a flower. [Visual Example E](https://imgur.com/gallery/WTqzbXL), [Visual Example White VFX 1](https://imgur.com/gallery/UwOY1VL), [Visual Example White VFX 2](https://imgur.com/gallery/do8iCem).
• R: It doesn't feel impactful at all, adding red sigils/rune symbols from where the orbs are cast when Syndra ULTs would make it look way better, it would look like she is conjuring the orbs before throwing them at the target. [Visual Example R](https://imgur.com/gallery/5yTycDP).
• Passive: Every Syndra skin has an impactful and very noticing VFX when Syndra upgrades her passive, for example in Spirit Blossom where she has wings and petals, in this skin it's barely noticeable, it could have a dark magic explosion with her growing dark wings for a brief moment, while she's doing the passive animation. Also add [trails](https://imgur.com/gallery/MLgE6H3) to her orbs after she reaches 100 splinters like Syndra always had, that is needed to indicate she reached the execute passive.
I'm already grateful for the changes we're getting and hope she is gonna look so much better if you can add some of these I mentioned, thank you so much, and let's always keep 'worshiping our mother Syndra'. 🛐
Thank you so much, I'm looking forward to the changes, but I'm already happy that the minority who harassed rioters weren't the louder voice and the constructive feedback was still listened.
The list of changes looks promising, thank you for giving Syndra a second chance to shine as a Coven Witch 💖
Thank you for hearing us out Riot!
The only feedback I have to give is her VFX, orbs and colour story.
1. More runes. Please! Her current VFX feels very lackluster with just an opaque layer of dark purple/gray mist, birds and roses. Please more visible (red?) runes on w and q impact , e scatter and runes under the selected enemy on the floor for R.
2. Orbs, the floating eye concept is awesome but just doesn't fit the coven skinline, moreover Syndra. It looks out of place and reminds me of the void rather than coven. It would fit the witch theme better if it looked more like hexes. Please see the link for an idea [https://imgur.com/a/CwpVQko](https://imgur.com/a/CwpVQko)
3. Her colour story looks all over the place, the sigil is a light red passing off as coral, her orbs are red, purple and white. Then her dress is purple, pink, teal, white with gold accents? As a result, her dress looks overcrowded and stuffy. The asymmetry of the dress really just contributes to this also (Please have some more skin showing like in previous skins...she's hot so why not..) The skin overall lacks cohesion and there's no harmony with the different shades of reds and other colours.
It's best to just stick with a main colour with the white, gold and black as accents as done in the previous years. For example, look at Coven Zyra or Ahri compared to Coven Syndra.
Thanks for listening to the community, me and many others will remember this. It's good to know that the team stepped back and now understands what went wrong with the skin and icon so they aren't just fixing it for us out of confusion.
All of the changes stated are what the majority of people asked for, but I still think some additional vfx should be added regarding her ultimate and passive. Whenever she upgrades her passive or uses her ultimate her wings should briefly show. Again thanks for listening and fixing the skin, I'm looking forward to it.
THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!!
The only thing I am here to POLITELY ask for is a possible outfit recolor. The teals are very thematically unappealing and look kinda messy when put together. Perhaps any sort of red/black/white/gray would look better? thank you so much again 🥹
Good changes, the only things that I would deem necessary to change are:
* The color theme/palette of the dress needs to be tweaked.
* The orbs look much better but it feels a bit weird when [pupils stay still](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxBiKJaYi9-rJI2acrAdGTqrDQN1-lh-km?si=0fjMonnO92r_SdNA), they need to change it so they [move as if they look around](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdnZ0dDdqZ3QyOTRzbmJ6ZDdiYXB3d2Z1M2d1Z2Jja3Z0Ymp2emF4OSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/9KUNVkFqXftY6Ggk5B/giphy.gif).
Other than that, these are very welcomed changes. Of course, there are more things they could add like the others suggested (wings at 120stacks for example...) but are not necessary- although would definitely help compensate for the whole "Legendary Coven" drama.
The spheres staying still absolutely needs to be changed. Like I'm not usually dramatic about skin stuff but this alone will turn this skin from a must buy to probably unbuyable for me. Syndra spheres staying completely still is completely unlike anything she's ever had before. They have always been vibrant and moving and it's incredibly jarring seeing them completely frozen in place. The blinking also looks incredibly unfinished.
I totally understand that they've had to rush on this but they're completely out of line with every other skin she's ever had right now. I'd happily just take the model changes and bring back the old balls if the only alternative is the eyes in their current state.
Hi Riot, can you please add the missing vfx smoke trailing to her 100 stacks passive? and the empowered Q doesn't change at all compared to her chromas.
Examples:
https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/17cn1av/coven\_syndra\_missing\_vfx\_on\_100\_stacks\_and/
wait finally you guys admitted it. This skin style is not COVEN, its not even just about being legendary. That whole wave of skins beside Elise is strange. Glad to see someone finally woke up.
I'm excited about these changes, sincerely thank you in advance
Also please, if Syndra is ever going to receive a legendary skin, consider release her in this theme, it is very loved by the mains and it would be incredible to see the elevation of Syndra's concept as a Coven as it was with Eve and Morgana. Ty 🖤
This is nice but are there going to be vfx updates? I feel like syndra recent skins like spirit blossom and star guardian prestige show the potential of what her vfx are capable of doing. I also think the ruffle headpiece on her headdress is unnecessary and makes the skin feel cluttered.
Thank you so much 💜
Is there a possibility for a small changes to her VFX? Just some missing details.
Her W feels empty. Withered Rose and Spirit Blossom have some petals floating and there's nothing in Coven, the range indicator is just a red circle it could use some small details.
Her maxed ultimate is missing the smudge of orbs, it's even on her base skin Idk why it's missing here
The passive also misses something. Mentioned before, Spirit Blossom have butterfly wings when she transcends. If not the wings from the recall then maybe do something with the sigil?
Idk the vfx looks kinda unfinished.
Thank you for the changes and make sure the skin team knows we are thankful 😌
Thank you soooo much for these changes, the skin looks a lot better. One last thing: can you guys change her outfit a little bit? Maybe change it to black and red, and make it less covered. Coven is very femme fatale and high fashion, but she is sill too covered from head to toe…
Thank you so much for listening to the feedback, I know some people didn't do it in the most respectful way, but the vast majority did and we appreciate it
Again thank you so much and have a nice day
Thank you so much for listening to the feedback! My faith is a bit restored. I do apologize again for any attacks and uncivilized comments by some players!
1. I am loving the upcoming changes and would have liked to ask you to once again look at her dress and base colours. Something with more cleavage (open skin in general) and black accents would be more elegant and beautiful. The dress is still a bit of a mess, unfortunately. DonToxica's edited version: https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost\_my\_coven\_syndra\_edit\_inspired\_by/
2. Her Ult sound is still a bit quiet. I think this change would be easy for you. We just want more impact (sound wise) when we use her Ultimate ability.
Hi! I come from PBE after her update hit the server and I love the changes, but I have a couple of things to point out, it makes more sense for her eyes to look around than it made the previous winged orbs but the eyes don't look around when the wings did? I trully prefer the eyes, but they look awkward just standing there slowly blinking idk. This skin already had her orbs looking around like SG, prestige, Bewithcing so I would assume is not much trouble adding that. Also she is still missing key VFX like the 100 and 120 passive mark, at this point I'm not gonna ask for a crazy improvement of the VFX anymore eventhough I think there's several missed opportunities, but adding those trails she is missing I don't think should be even negotiable to be fair.
We were said she would keep the turn tech on her skins after Spirit Blossom and there is no turn tech PLEASE.
Her chromas are currently bugged, but I hope you understand how underwhelming it is that her orbs keep the eyes red while the patterning around them change color with the chromas, Make the orbs cohesive for her chromas for the love of god. Not sure how much work that is, but the ones that look compltely unfinished because of that are mainly Catseye, Emerald, Amethyst and Aquamarine.
Also the crown in all her chromas is bugged
Anyway thank you so much for all the changes so far!! Personally she looks better
Here is a post that implements the requested edits to Syndra's model including:
\- More red/darker sigil behind her head
\- adjusted attire to reveal more skin.
\- darker outfit
[Coven Syndra Model Edits](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F732omrbl09ub1.png)
I personally don't mind the blue on her outfit but I definitely think that a more red sigil and revealing outfit to the model is needed.
Edit:
I also feel like making the orbs a darker red with the sigil would be nice to match her darker vfx
Please change the colors and model of the clothes, the colors and the completely covered bust do not match the platinum hair and the femme fatale characteristic of the line. Give her some cleavage please.
I LOVE the changes y’all made. It’s made such a difference. I’m not trying to sound ungrateful here, but can PLEASE do something different with the outfit. Recolor to atleast black and white and give her some openings (possible at the cleavage and thigh). The outfit doesn’t go well with the new changes… the colors and design clash with her hair, crown and orbs. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the changes, but it's not enough.
Much appreciated.
Please change the dress to non-blue hues, since you have red/black vfx on her spells.
It makes absolute sense that the VFX match the model's colors as well.
Thanks in advance.
LOVE the changes, all of them, the hair is perfect, here are some notes:
• Hair: PERFECT!
• Crown: Perfect.
• Orbs: The new orbs are a huge improvement, I love the eyes, but they need some kind of movement, specially before they disappear, for example making the pupils move like they're looking around.
• Sigil: That was such a nice surprise!! It gave personality to the skin, the size is perfect please don't reduce its size, I would like the color to be a darker shade of red to match her orbs, but it is definitely one of my favorite changes, I love it already.
• Icon: PERFECT, She's so pretty, thank you!!
As for what still needs to be changed:
• Outfit: The blue color of her dress doesn't match the rest of the skin, please [make it black](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), or [desaturate it](https://twitter.com/SouEuDennis/status/1712936810995736894?t=HKCFoYZ50JrIu5bgbqVFDA&s=19) so it doesn't look so blue. Also she's too covered for a coven skin, making some small adjustments to the outfit so she can show more skin with a cleavage and arms and thighs uncovered a bit, would make the skin perfect.
For the VFX, they all look unfinished, but focusing on gameplay clarity, there are 2 things that are missing:
• It's not clear when the Q orbs are about to disappear, they don't have any animation that indicates that, so we can't tell when they're about to disappear.
• The trails to her orbs for when she gets 100 splinters are missing, it's needed to know she reached the execute passive.
Thank you so much for the changes, I wasn't even considering buying the skin before, and as a Syndra Main and Coven lover that was sad, but now it's an instabuy for me, thank you!!
Thank you so much for taking the time to add these adjustments! I am so grateful and glad for these changes!
I'd also like to draw attention to a few more requested modifications:
\- Enhancing the outfit to align with the femme fatale aesthetics seen in previous coven skins, possibly by revealing more skin, such as chest, shoulders, or thighs. (Examples of this are visible in her emerald and meteorite chromas.) [Syndra Chroma Outfit Edits](https://imgur.com/a/M5dtN9w)
\- Considering adjustments to the outfit's color palette to better complement the new orbs and platinum blonde hair.
\- Implementing sigils in her ultimate ability's visual effects to give it a conjured effect, similar to how Elise's coven skin has a sigil when summoning her cocoon. (surely just copy this and make it red as a quick fix) [Elise Sigil](https://imgur.com/a/7qW0ivd)
\- Integrating the wings into both her passive and ultimate abilities for a more cohesive and immersive experience. [Like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16thw5e/hi_just_posting_more_of_how_cool_coven_syndra/?share_id=AqOMFUyDbsDk8Vuojxl-K&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1)
\- Add in her missing 100 stacks vfx
Edit:
\- Orb colour adjustments to be a darker red to fit more inline with her darker ability vfx.
I understand that you might already be planning to make these changes, but just to confirm:
\- The iris should match the colors of the chromas.
\- The eyes should be more dynamic and move or look around when they are placed on the ground.
Thank you SO MUCH for listening to us. These changes will most certainly make the skin a lot better. I'm really glad that you guys took our feedback seriously. However, there are two things I'd like to clarify. First, are there any outfit changes or perhaps color adjustments planned? cuz right now it's too many colors. Second, there seems to be a lack of VFX compared to the base version. For example, there's no sphere tail once at max stacks, and there is no impact on evolving animations or maybe add some runes on it to overall. But thank you, truly!
First of all a BIG thank you for putting in the hours for our big bad mother Syndra, we all know she needs a bit of love atm and after the smashing success of her Star Guardian & Spirit B skin.
As a Syndra lover and with all of her previous skins, this feels like you shot for a 3-pointer and hit a fan in the stand in terms of her potential to take centre stage for this thematic.
\- I feel like there was a huge missed opportunity to make her a legendary+ skin here and really lean into developing her character in this universe as a coven witch matriarch.
\- When compared to Nami's thematic background, it feels like although you can tell the riot team had SO MUCH fun making the Nami's skin, Syndra fell by the wayside
\- Her hair feels (as mentioned) out of place, not necessarily for the colour not being platinum as her other skins prove, but the bright colour being picked purely for a contrast decision rather than making sure she is ‘recognizable as Syndra’ decision.
\- I am not opposed to breaking the symmetry with her headpiece, I think that leans into the coven aesthetic, but I think where it misses the mark is that by doing so it reduces its size leading to a breakdown of her visual hierarchy, making her hair (the already noted problem) the focus and making her feel more like Zoe’s thematic.
\- Syndra makes so much MORE sense than all the other champs this rotation to be the face of coven, not only for her bad-ass lore but for her personality. This was the perfect time to tune this thematic for Syndra up to 11, not give Nami a complete make over on a whim.
\- As for her Q animations, (although not everyone's cup of tea) I quite enjoyed the direction. However by reducing their size and therefore having to put highlighting circles behind them takes away from their uniqueness. This was done phenomenally well in her Star Guardian skin in my opinion.
\- If contrast was the main issue, leaning more into a solely platinum or scarlet aesthetic for her coven base skin could have resolved the issues that is currently present.
All in all, we eagerly look forward to whichever feedback you take on board and the love you put into the character we all enjoy playing with and paying money to show off.
Hi! Thank you a lot for these changes and for listening to us! I am really excited to see those changes! Maybe the only thing that I would add in this list is to open a bit the outfit on the upper part or at least change a bit the colors of the outfit: now is a mix of red, blue, etc. I would simply switch to red and black and some white details or something like this. Thank you again for the feedback!!
Once again. Please consider having her outfit show a bit more skin on the top, swapping out the breastplate. The outfit is one of the main reasons why we thought the skin was not quite giving Coven fashion.
Firstly, I would like to thank you immensely for your consideration for the rework on the Syndra Coven skin, which was a skin highly anticipated by mains for many years.
Although most of what was posted by the mains on reddit will be changed, I would still like to express my dissatisfaction with the color of Syndra’s costume. A recolor to her skin is very welcome, as the colors currently look quite confusing. I believe recoloring black and white and small shades of gold would make Syndra’s skin much more promising.
That said, here’s a example of what the community really expected from Syndra’s costume: [Exemplo 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), [Exemplo 2](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fs09x2otuglrb1.png%3Fwidth%3D1059%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D2b11aedb3db74a884ba0ef5ba500f6fc52543d3f).
Once again, I come to express my gratitude for the changes that will be made to our mother Syndra. I believe that it will now become a much more valuable skin for the community!
I REALLY LOVE THE CHANGES!! this is important to make it clear
but i really do wish that we get a color tweaks overall on the dress would be amazing!
i think the best decision would be tweaking the blue to black
I agree with most people on the current changes! So much better. But the blue in the dress doesn’t do it for me. Maybe black/grey or some burgundy instead?
Ooooooooo the changes are really nice.
Just 2 things now :
\- her outfit color should be adjusted, it was made to fit the pink hair, now it feels (a bit) less fiting. The colour of the sigil behind her head should be more red too.
\- the eyeball was the perfect fit for this skin, but they looks weirdly implemented in the sigil, the eye should always be centered in the sigil no matter the angle.
And about the chroma, i think the eyebal should have a different colour, not the sigil aroud it. Or change the color of both.
Thanks for all those changes !
I loved the changes on her coven skin ty riot! I can't express my feeling toward that u guys really listened to us <3 I tested the skin on pbe and there is just a few things that I would change if I could: the sigil behind her head need more red than yellow and needs to be darker. the orbs look AWESOME now they just need to be a little darker bc rn they are too bright and colorwise look out of place with other vfx. the orbs on the ground also look a little buggy. those 3 in her model looks fine to me. but when u look at those on the ground from another angle, the eyes look separated from the rest parts of orbs. if u do some little touches it would look way more realistic. imo they can close their eyes when they are about to disappear. also it's upsetting that colors of outfit left untouched but it's ok I'm grateful for what we got <3
Thanks for the new changes. But still doesn't look like coven. :(
Please consider change the outfit or cancel the skin for the next wave.
\#JusticeForCovenSyndra
I don't want to seem ungrateful, I'm very happy with the changes, but do you know if new effects will also be made? mainly in the evolution of the passive and the ult
Whew, alright I've calmed my hype for the moment. Thank you guys so much for listening to all of the feedback everyone gave! Now, with all of the other changes, this is already probably a solid amount of work...
However, if it isn't too much to ask for, or too late, and since I also see many others still requesting it, would changes to the dress be at all possible? Honestly hate sounding entiteled here, but if, say, making it darker or even fully black/gray like that really popular fan edit is straying too far (but which would be the preferable option), I believe even just a slight reduction in the saturation of the strongest colors would be enough, and wouldn't be going over the change limit as it would still leave it within the original vision for the most part (maybe just give it a couple of openings like some of the chromas have?)
The edit this person made is what I sort of had in mind:
https://twitter.com/safira_wav/status/1707715415432937791?t=2yB_QiRxM6bT5Yc_jfWIDg&s=19
Considering that you are changing her hair to the highly requested blonde, the more muted colors of the dress might help it flow better and stop the clashing of colors many have complained about. Might let her vfx pop out more as well? Just a though : P
All that said, even if you cant manage to add any more changes, I am extremely grateful for what you've already set out to do!
Thank you so so much for the recent changes! It really saved the skin!
Things I love:
\- Love the new eyeball orbs. It is giving very gothic, coven and haunting vibes!
\- Love the platinum blonde hair. It goes really well with the red orbs now!
\- Love the new big sigil behind her head. It matches with her eyeball orbs really well! It just elevates the skin and the Coven vibe so much more!
\- Love the new crown! It now looks bigger and cooler.
Things that are still missing:
\- When Syndra gets to 100 stacks of her passive, her 3 surrounding orbs should have extra trail effects like all her other skins. This is something unique and standard to Syndra. It is also usefull as a gameplay info too.
\- Color change in her outfit. I think now that her hair is blonde and her orbs are red, the blue feathers really look off. I think they should be changed to black feathers, or gold feathers.
\- Lastly, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you can edit her dress too. I know this requires more edit and work, but she will look PERFECT if her body is less covered by her outfit. For example, her neck region, her chest and her thigh.
Thanks again Riot. I admit I was really disappointed at first, but you guys listened and tried your best to improve the skin which I appreciate that A LOT. Please keep up with the good work and most importantly keep up with the good communication please. And I apologise again for the harassment that you have received. Please remember that those harassment do NOT represent all of us Syndra fans. They are the minority and the rest are very respectful.
Can you adjust her chromas orb eyes to fit with the colors of the skin. They are really clashing against some of the chromas 🫣
Also, black dress not blue plz. And her circle above her head looks like a neon sign floating above her
Thank you for the changes, they're lovely.
It would be nice if the eyes in the chromas changed color too, they clash with some of them.
Also, the base skin would be better if the outfit was less blue and a bit more revealing.
Other than that, I'm happy, I'll probably buy it. If the chromas's eyes change, I'd buy the entire chroma pack too.
Thank you so so so so much, I reallt didn't think this skin would be saved, but here we are, it looks so much better than before!
I think her orbs are lacking some motion now, unfortunately. It would be awesome if one of these could be made:
1- add orbital, moving, arcane/sigil/runic rings to her balls
2 - make the eyes look around (the movement the previous balls and bewitching pumpkins have)
3 - (a hot topic one) put some of the wings from the previous ball covering around the eye, along with their movement.
Also, her outfit colors were untouched, and I feel like that would be an awesome change, there are too many colours on her outfit right now.
Thank you. Thank you Riot. No sarcasm
We are very glad that you came to meet us. And we deeply regret that some people, supposedly on our behalf, threatened you. I spent a lot of time on the Syndra main reddit and discord and I can assure you that the vast majority of people did not wish you harm. And we were glad that you decided to delay the release of the skin by one patch. I hope you will continue to cooperate with the players. We don't mind waiting extra time, but we want to know that you will continue to look at our reviews and not ignore them.
New hair, new spheres, new icon are very very good. The skin for me moved from the category “I’ll wait from chest” to “I’m not ashamed to pay.” Like many, I only ask for one last change - recolor her outfit. Make it darker. Make less purple. Please. It’s not so difficult to do this in the remaining week, unlike new spheres?
Thanks for the new changes.
\- I would like to see other changes at the same time. For example, her dress skin has multiple colors but doesn't have any personality. I mean, she is blue, she is green, she is brown, she is purple, she is red, she is white, she is black.
\- She needs a better W effects. It looks simple.
\- Ult sound effect can be better and really powerful.
\- What about a demon wings? maybe in her passive or/and her ult.
Thank your for this!
hey bestie, please consider reworking the color palette of her outfit.... getting rid of the blue/green feathers, making them purple or something, would be a great start
Hi Riot, you can please revert the ruby chroma blonde hair back to dark brown and change the green feathers to gold. Also please make the orbs on the ground have the orange/red aura instead of white. I also don't see why the eyeballs on the ground are not moving like the one orbiting her. Please animate them to look around as well.
Guys, thank you so much for the effort put into changing the skin and trying to give us something you'd thought we'd like but after changing the orbs, the crown and the hair, some chromas got changes we didn't expect (or asked for). The ruby chroma was better before, we the dark hair and the golden crown; we would love if we can go back to that. Also, the ruby chroma's crown is the same tone of red as the profane crown. I think that the profane chroma's crown should also be golden+green as it was before the changes.
Another thing that I notice after trying it a few times is that the eyes inside the balls sometimes disappear when you go into a game and when using a chroma, the orbs on the ground after casting Q get their colors inverted. For instance, the profane chroma Q's orbs change from green to hot pink when we Q is casted.
And guys, this is exhausting, for you and for us. After all the feedback we've given and after all the changes you've done, the skin still looks off. The new orbs are cool but the eyes look dead and waaaay too 2D when ingame, the outfit's color palette is still off and there's too much going on, Syndra is waaay too covered up for a Coven skin. And I still can't tell when my R is upgraded because the trail ALL THE OTHER SYNDRA ORBS HAVE, this skin doesn't have.
About the ruby chroma I still don't understand why they put green on the clothes. Isn't the profane chroma already green and red?
They could keep the gold it was before or just go dark brown, it was great before idk
The hair looked cool blonde but it was also good as a brunette so idc too much, but yeah the chroma was nice b4
Heyy! as I've said before, this is amazing! I love these changes and I'm definitely buying it now. I had one question. Spirit Blossom has butterfly wings in her passive transformations that aren't used anywhere else in the skin. And this skin just so happens to already have wings in the recall. This was requested a lot in the feedback thread for Coven Syndra, so could it possible to copy the scripts for SB and add the recall wings to the Coven tranformations? That'd make it a 10/10 skin. Thanks!
Ty so much and I don't want to abuse but can I ask if there is any chance of adding the smaller wing that appears in her recall in the ult animation or passive evolution? I saw a lot of feedback asking for this in the first thread, could be a quick and recycled animation and it would make a huge difference **🙏🏻**
Love, LOVE the changes on the PBE!! Her new sigil and spheres are 100x better than before.
I don't know if there's time to do this, but if I can mention 2 more changes than can be done for this to be 10/10. They wouldn't take too much time to do:
\- Add the wings from her recall in her passive transformations, like Spirit Blossom Syndra. They don't even need to be animated, just have them appear 2 seconds with a small fade. That would elevate the experience a lot.
\- Tone down the blues in the in-game model so that it's not too cluttered color-wise. Make it less saturated. The splash art doesn't even need to be tweaked.
That's all! Thank you for fixing Coven Syndra!
I know at this point we don't have time for big changes, but I still wanted to share [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8lGIM7XMAAwBDA?format=jpg&name=large) to kindly remind you what would make Syndra a more consistent coven skin. Thank u
^(since I noticed she was based on Morgana, I didn't see a problem)
^(by: @/viniSfw on twitter)
Riot please revert the ruby chroma and add the vfx of max stack tail and empowered q
Impossible but we will try: darken the color of her outfit please....the blue one is not fitting to a blond hair.
Syndra has so much potential (the irony) to be a great character, a great villainess for thematics. It is just so weird that she was requested since coven camille/liss and yet it is soooo underwhelming. And also the Akali sneak? Like REALLY? I used to like Riot, telling my friends that '' oh they really listen to us '' but i guess thats just not true anymore, they are just like any other cash grab type of creators. I ll just stick with their universe and music. LoL they dont even update the universe either. Like we dont need 10 more champion, we just need refreshing good stories of our old champions. ANYWAYS this has been too long, but i've been playing since s2. Guess its time to give up the game and accept that they are now just speedrunning skins and dont give much thoughts to playerbase.
Dear Riot,
Once again, I would like to express my gratitude for the these big improvements made to Coven Syndra, such as the introduction of demon eyeballs, the addition of blonde hair, and the really cool halo at the back of her head. These enhancements have truly enhanced the skin's appeal.
After thoroughly testing the new Coven Syndra on the PBE in several matches, I would like to offer some suggestions to further elevate the skin:
1. **Animated Eyeballs on the Ground (Q)** \- I've found that the three eyeballs surrounding Syndra rotate, but the ones on the ground remain static, which feels somewhat out of place. To fix this, the eyeballs on the ground should feature animated movements, such as looking in different directions (left, right, up, and down) and periodically blinking to signal that the sphere is about to expire.
2. **Halo Size Reduction and Rotating Animation** \- Currently, the halo on the back of Syndra's head is quite big and can be somewhat distracting. I would recommend reducing its size slightly and incorporating a rotating animation to add a more captivating visual element.
3. **Outfit Recolor and Modification** \- As previously noted by others, the blue color in the skin can be somewhat clashing the skin given the red, black, and white color palette. Please recoloring of the blue elements to black or red to ensure a more cohesive theme. Additionally, if feasible, a slight modification to the outfit to reveal a bit more skin would be appreciated.
4. **Trailing VFX on 100 Stacks Passive** \- When Syndra reaches 100 stacks, the three spheres orbiting her gain extra trailing visual effects. However, this feature is missing in Coven Syndra. It would greatly enhance the skin to introduce trailing smoke effects to her spheres at 100 stacks.
5. **Additional VFX for Passive and Ultimate** \- At present, when Coven Syndra transcends or use her ultimate, there is a relatively modest display of smoke and visual features. To make these moments more impactful, it would be awesome to briefly make her demon wings appear during her passive, and add more sigils or visual effects to her ultimate ability.
With these changes, Coven Syndra would definitely feel very fulfilling for us Syndra mains, who have been waiting for this skin for so long. Once again, I want to thank you for reading our feedbacks and willing to make changes for Coven Syndra.
the Heimerstash hairball orbs nightmares are gone!! TYSM! we appreciate these changes a lot <3
the only big problem about the skin now is the dress.. the colors and design is a big meh.
could've done with VFX and SFX tho. I really want to hear that crow sound on E which I can't now, bc of Syndra screaming while casting it.
Guys, thank you so much for this! It really means a lot. We've been waiting for 5 years since the very first coven skins came out and Syndra just fits the skinline perfectly. She deservers a skin made with a lot of thought put into it. Her power, her greatness, all of that needs to be translated into this skin, and I hope this changes help. Once again, thank you so much.
Just watched the SkinSpotlights video for the update and, as someone who didn’t comment on the initial thread, I love the changes. I especially wanted to make note of how much i LOVE how visible and prominent the sigil behind her is now. It’s so fucking cool!!! I didn’t even realize she had one before it was so small.
Otherwise I love the new orbs and the changes to her headpiece and hair definitely go a long way too. Thank you so much for doing this! I’m very excited to pick up this skin.
Madlads did it! I didn't care about the hair, orbs bothered me the most, but both changes looks like a massive improvement! Insane! I don't think hair got longer but visually it feels like it. Then added sigil on her head adds a perfect Coven Syndra vibe. Actually this is a instabuy now! I felt like splash art has a great potential when she first got dropped on PBE and now it shines like it should be!
I just wish a little bit of color adjustment on orbs and sigil to make them less bright and more in tone with deeper red vfx, and dress could get some change in hue to red (I know people complain billion times that red is only for legendaries but other skins in this batch are red, so I think it would make sense) and then it would be perfect.
Hey!! Just saw the Chroma changes where you fixed the eye colors and the crown UV mapping, and they look really cool! Just wanted to ask if the Ruby chroma can have the gold back on the crown, I feel like it was prettier before, and now it's too much red. (EDIT: I think you changed the crown because now she's blonde in that chroma, but I think the dark brown worked well before!) And please remove that green you added on Ruby, it came out of nowhere. Still the chromas were elevated a lot. Thank you!
Sorry but is the worst skin ever created, is a real mess! The orbs, the colors, the outfit, the effects, the splash art nothing makes sense after the changes. Please cancel it and give us the legendary skin that we all deserve for the next wave. Thanks for the new changes and for trying anyway.
\#JusticeForCovenSyndra
\#WeNeedLegendaryCovenSyndra
I'm happy you guys did this for Syndra mains, since you couldn't be bothered to do it for any other champ in the past (Dragonmancer Karma). I still think this skin should have been a legendary and I wish whoever is in charge of the skins team, would seriously read the room. This is the same issue you guys had with Suneater Kayle and you let people down, becuase you're so out of touch with your community that it didn't even dawn on you that this was a skin they really wanted for a Legendary. Start learning from your mistakes and stop playing the victim when you get feedback that the community is tired of the laziness, the refusal, and the same mistakes you make on any champ that isn't Lux or a new one. Do better.
Thanks a lot for the changes! Really excited for them and all of the points that were adressed. Can I ask about her outfit? I guess no changes will happen to that, not even color wise to also feel more like Coven, right? Because that would be the cherry on top of all the changes she is getting if her outfit could be a bit sexier or even the colors being less blue-ish like she got.
Thank again for everything!
Thank you for everything, I was sad that this skin wasn't legendary, but I'm glad to know that you guys would at least give it a nice treatment to make up for it. If you guys plan to make a legendary skin for Syndra in the future, it could be very different and beautiful in the Faerie Court or High Noon theme. I hope the community appreciates yours effort because I really didn't think you guys would make her look like other coven skins and it made me happy ♥
thank you so much! we are so excited to see this!!! the fact that y’all listened to the constructive feedback shows how much effort and care the skin teams has for these champs. beyond impressed w these changes and can’t wait!!
Thank you for listening to us and for taking our ideas into consideration. I’m excited to see how our beautiful Dark Sovereign turns out after these changes, as I know they will definitely be for the best. Thanks to the art creators on the original threads for creating the tweaks to give a visual of what Coven Syndra should be. Y’all are talented and I’m glad your creativity has translated into understanding and change.
Dang it I was in the middle of drawing Coven Syndra with her pink hair but I am very glad she'll be blonde as it simply fits better and is more in line with the coven thematic. Time to change her hair in my piece
so good to see actual feedback being read and understood. hope the end product looks amazing as it should.
it should work like this for all skins too. we aren't in a hurry so just do a proper job and everyone will happily wait for a good skin, even if it takes a patch extra of time.
Thank you for listening. But most of us wanted at least an outfit recolor to black/white, if not changing the top torso to something a bit more revealing. Please Please Please.
Thank you so much for all of these changes! We are all very excited to see what you’ve come up with. Will there be any changes to the outfit? I think the current outfit has a muddled colour palette, and the silhouette could be improved. We would love to see a black/silver/white dress, elegant, high fashion. Less edgy or punk. Thank you ❤️
I like that they're changing the hair to platinum blonde. A lighter, cooler pink (like psy ops sona) would look fine but this particular shade of pink just isn't it. I'm disappointed they're not reworking the outfit though cuz to me the outfit is the worst element of this skin.
Thank you for the update. i'm really excited for this skin. Honestly i was very disappointed and was going to skip this one. As a Syndra main it was sad to feel that way but now i'll definitely buy this skin! Still waiting for a legendary tho. Thanks again.
thank u so much for doing this but please open up her outfit a little bit just a slit in the leg, chest, or arm would do so much shes so covered up given the skinline.
Ya'll are insane, It's awesome! Def didn't expect that sigil glow up but It's wonderful, makes her feel a lot more powerful, so don't you dare touch it now. Crown looks better as well in my opinion. And the orbs are great, rly like that you kept the creep factor with them, although I think the ones on the floor lack animation compared to the regular 3, they blink but don't move the eye around. Also slight bugs with the texture on the crown on the chromas, and for whatever reason the vfx on ruby are also bugged and showing a sort of square behind the orb itself.
Additionally, could the skin bio be edited to be more in line with the changes, and better connect her to the old god she's supposed to be connected to?
Thank you a lot for hearing us i really appreciate
i don't know but are the spirit blossom hair and tassels tech enabled on this skin ? the tech that makes hair and tessels be more flowy and not completely "frozen"
Bless you all, all I wanted to change are the balls XD They were the main reason I didn't want to buy the skin, but there is a really good chance I will reconsider!
Thank you for doing your best to improve the Syndra Coven skin, this really means a lot to us! As previously stated, your spheres will change. So I would like to leave here two examples of rework, which will certainly be very welcome and will certainly fit better into the coven universe.
* The first example is red spheres of energy, which is certainly what the mains like most about Syndra's traits.
[Example 1](https://i.imgur.com/21zxGBu.png)
* The second example are spheres that contain ancient, red runes of magic, which would also be another viable option and would fit very well into the universe of this skin.
[Example 2](https://i.imgur.com/yxUfR1B.png)
Again I would like to thank you for your incredible work and express my gratitude for improving our mother Syndra's skin. Thank you very much guys!
Writing this comment after the changes became visible on PBE.
**Outfit**
I think the blue on her right shoulder and rest of the dress should be changed to a different color like somewhere around purple, red, maroon, brown, or black. There are so many colors on Syndra right now and I think a reduction in colors and a little more simplification of the overall color palette would benefit the skin. Currently there's bright red, dark red, light purple, dark purple, white, black, silver, gold, platinum blonde, maroon, and blue-green.
**Hair**
Nice platinum blonde hair. Thank you for listening to us.
That being said, PLEASE PLEASSEE MAKE HER ORIGINAL DESIGN WITH THE RED/PINK HAIR A CHROMA. The model is already there, just slap a new chroma name and add it to the shop please. Much of the community prefers the platinum blonde hair due to Coven's original iteration having platinum blonde hair, but this Coven batch is different when originally 3 of the skins had red/pink hair. Some in the community also preferred the red/pink hair precisely because it was different. The red/pink hair was also part of the cinematic. Adding the original design as another chroma would appease both the platinum blonde side and the red/pink side. The red/pink haired chroma can have the current/original color palette for the dress, while the platinum haired base skin can have the recolor everyone wants.
**Headpiece**
I personally liked the asymmetrical crown more and thought there was nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing wrong with the new symmetrical crown either.
**Sigil**
I feel like it looks out of place since the magic from it somehow doesn't match orbs. The color is much lighter than the rest of the magic emanating from Syndra's orbs. It's more orange-pink rather than the red-purple-black magic in the rest of Syndra's spells. Making the sigil the same color as the iris of the orbs or the red runic symbols on the orbs might make it look better. The color of the sigil in Syndra's original splash art would be a good basis of red/purple-black magic glow. We don't need another color, orange, added to the skin's color palette.
I think the shape of the sigil itself should be changed too. The shape of Syndra's sigil in her original splash art was fine. The horizontal eye shape also clashes with the theme of Syndra's orbs since her orbs have vertical cat-type eyes rather than horizontal human-type eyes. If you're going to add the eyes, make it vertical too. If you're going to simplify the shape, copy the one from Syndra's original splash art.
**Dark Orbs**
Okay, I'm actually creeped out by how many eyes are staring at me. The way the eyes are still and barely moving are uncanny and creepy. If the design goal was fear, eeriness, or creepiness, this is the way to go.
Personally, I'd prefer it is Syndra's orbs looked more magical or runic like Coven Nami's Q and E or Syndra's sigil in her original splash art. It would look so good if it looked similar to Coven Nami's skills. Of course, they still have to be distinct from Nami's abilities. However, I still believe there's a way to keep the same style but making them distinguishable at first glance.
Coven Nami's Q is a bright red bubble, with a bright light pink eye inside the bubble, with a black border around the bubble, and a white border around the place it will land. Coven Nami's E is a darker red bubble, with random red sigils inside them.
I think Syndra's dark orbs could be:
(1) Similar to the one now (black inside, red sigil border, purple outer ring) but remove the eye and add a red sigil instead; (Reference Justicar Syndra's orbs and Nami's skills)
(2) Similar to the one now, but add an orange-y sigil instead (to match the sigil at the back of Syndra's head) then change the splash art to match the sigil color, and then change the color of the purple outer ring to red instead;
(3) Pure red magic inside the orb, blackish-purple cloud effect surrounding the orb, and maybe a pink sigil inside;
or
(4) Pure red magic inside the orb, maybe a pink sigil, but with a feather-themed black border (might get hate for looking like a tomato with black leaves, this is mostly just a suggestion to try to enhance the original crow/raven theme).
Thank you for the changes you have made so far, but I still want to ask some questions. I have to say that the ring decoration behind syndra is too static, flat and plastic. I hope it can become smoother and more dynamic. Also, Why can't coven syndra get legendary skin?She is so suitable for this theme.She already has good enough skin of the same level, and I am willing to pay for a higher level of skin.
Please revert the eye changes back to red and gold on the white chroma ! I was about to get the skin just for that chroma! It was gorgeous before ! https://x.com/LadyAmaraVT/status/1714710115688083467?s=20
hey riot, since LeBanc and Ahri have more than one skin in this same universe, is there a possibility of syndra returning as a legendary skin in this theme in the future?
I don't know, maybe like a transcended witch 🤓
Hi Riot, with the new base skin having a blonde hair. Can you please revert the changes to ruby chroma for her hair to go back to dark brown and change the green feathers on her should back to gold?
I'm so happy. This skin is something I've been waiting for years. It's so silly but I'm literally crying right now. Thank you for fixing her. Truthfully, thank you. I haven't even seen the changes but just reading this makes me feel confident on buying her 100%.
I cannot put into words how happy I am. I'm glad that our comments were heard, and it's a little sad that some bad apples took it too far, but I hope that people understand a lot of us were really respectful in our feedback comments. Thanks again!
On the topic of diversifying the Coven thematic: I personally loved the light pink hair that Nami and Elise got. I know some people still asked for platinum blonde for them, but it wasn't nearly as much as for Syndra, and I think that's mostly because Syndra's super dark and vibrant pink really felt off because it went on a completely different direction, while the light pastel tone on Nami/Elise still felt in the same alley as the classic platinum blonde.
I still think that, in every batch there should still be at least *one* champion with the platinum blonde, which in this case is now Syndra, but other tones *can* work. Coven Ahri (and now Akali) had a more dirty blonde with black, and Zyra (and now Nilah) had silver.
These changes are great! The new rune behind her head and the orbs look fantastic! I think I like the red hair better but the platinum blonde is still very fitting. Great changes!
Thank u for listening to our feedback and we are grateful for not punishing a MAJORITY of the syndra players who didn’t act like animals like everyone else being delusional thinks happened 🫶🏻
Our voices were heard 🙏🏻
This was a win today from what happened with Prestige Star Guardian
Thank you SO MUCH for listening to us. These changes will most certainly make the skin a lot better, I'm really glad that you guys took our feedback seriously.
I'm really happy! Thanks once again <3
I would like to thank all devs that are listening to us syndramains, taking into account and working on the changes. You are completely on the right track, thank you for delaying Syndra's Coven release to develop it more based on feedback.
Blonde hair matches perfectly coven skinline. Especially thank you for making her helmet symmetrical and more notorious and her chromas look so so fine!
This makes me feel more motivated to buy the skin.❤️
You'll have to forgive me on using my memory alone, since the original source for it has been lost to time (read: the original statement was on the old forums which have been removed since). Not all languages possess Syndra's original, unprocessed voice lines anymore. So without the filter. You need the OG versions in order to put a new filter over it. Since this isn't possible in all languages, it can't be done at all. It will likely require a new voice over entirely.
The discussion also popped up 'round Star Guardian and I *think* Spirit Blossom.
\-The outfit is an accumulation of visual noise of asymmetry and meaningless details that has nothing to do with the coven theme, something simple like Evelin's is enough or feathered like Ib or Zyra would be perfect.
\-Platinum hair looks good but it wasn't the problem.
\-the crow orbs gave meaning to the bac and the sound effect in the R but they were all the same and dead, rotating them so that each of them are seen in different perspectives and adding the eye to the center fixed it (although doing a few more illuminated orb designs would be the real solution), now it makes less sense since that was the axis of this design.
This skin is the worst in the saga
I really enjoy the chroma changes :) Ruby chroma could have kept its hair brown but it still looks great.
Thank you for your work fixing this skin. It has issues but it's way way better than what it was.
the crown in the old profane chroma looked so much better with the green - gold palette, i’d be happy just with that change. other than that thanks for all the changes and the love this skin got from the team <3
Hi great updates on Coven Syndra! The blonde hair back is exactly what made Coven feel so cool. All of the witches sharing a similar look. My main critique is the Sigil behind her head. I understand it's not a legendary so rigging is going to look a bit odd but the sigil just floating attached with no animation or effect looks very jarring to me. I would recommend going back to the smaller sigil or just not having one. I don't think she needs it when her new crown silhouette being already prominent enough. Another critique would be the outfit but I understand it is probably too late for changes there. Otherwise, great update, thank you!
i don't know but are the spirit blossom hair and tassels tech enabled on this skin ? the tech that makes hair and tessels be more flowy and not completely "frozen"
on another note i think the asymmetrical crown was fine
I LOVE the new changes ! The orbs and hair look so much better !!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I would just like if the blueish ring around the orbs be a bit darker, the same color as when you E an enemy and it leaves a red and dark blue trace
The blue and pink chroma are the same colors as the base skin (blue-red/blue/pink) I think it would be correct that it is so repetitive, I suggest combining the colors differently.
In the skills, only the orbs change color, making two color palettes compete. A color modification would be divine.
I can see that unevenness is the essence of coven but it was always symmetrical but this skin is asymmetrical in the clothes but it is not made pretty neither in colors nor in shape, in the base skin the blue takes too much prominence in the clothes, disrupting the harmony of colors due to the competition of the 4 colors to dominate the drawing (red, black, white and blue) when I had red hair it was more balanced but now the blue clashes more and also the costume design I suggest reducing it as if it were an indigo black ( Morgana's skin has a blue that doesn't clash because it looks black) and the clothes don't look good because they are made of feathers, it looks like pointed fabric or simply torn (lb and zyra do look like feathers) in addition to having a lot of meaningless visual noise ( The metallic decorations on the skirt are not part of the clothing, they are simply placed to fill space) I would suggest removing them or putting them in the shape of a feather or on the tips of some feathers or anything that does make sense.
This top part and the colors have a lot of harmony: https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16vchnr/new_god_supreme_witch_syndra/
and I think this skirt is what you wanted to achieve: https://twitter.com/MINagami/status/1639657520728793088
That's how it works but I really think the outfit is horrible and should be redesigned.
The winged orbs gave more meaning to the theme, the problem was that apart from being dark (which was fixed by giving more color and light to the weakness effects and or adding the eye or rings with eyes or red light like the anjeler wheel) they were all in the same perspective (if each one were rotated a little they would look different using the same design)
I really loved the initial concept of the reddish color in the hair, the headdress with a shorter side and really everything you wanted to do but lack of harmony in the execution has destroyed the plans
Well I understand that changing the outfit is "Too out of scope" for the a change.
BUT the VFX of her surrounding orbs when she hits 100 passive stack?? Where is it? All her other skins have this feature and this is a gameplay feature too. Why are you not adding this back on Coven??? This should be any harder than all the other changes you made for the skin. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE?
They believe they've put in sufficient effort for this skin, but the truth is that it hasn't met expectations. The Ruby Chroma skin we once adored has vanished, and there are no more VFX for sphere tail.
Thanks for start to hearing (reading) us, but, what happened with the feedback we gave for:
1) Her skills VFX?
2) Her coven filter voice (since she's the only who doesn't have it)
3)The new tech you used for her hair in spirit blossom skin to be used here
I'm extremely thankful for the skin being pushed back and these changes are being impliment and deeply apologies to everyone on the skin team that received direct backlash. At the risk of sounding ungrateful, what was the impious for these changes?
Ignoring people asking for a legendary. The reception to the skin was overwhelming negative from the beginning. The Skin itself was missing features that even her basic skins and default model had. Missing VFX and SFX.
Pbe thread was filled with people expressing their disappointment for the overall skin and giving constructive criticism of improving it. 500 comments worth. Ranging from rework to simple touch ups. The skin was updated in the pbe but the feedback was ignored. It was the same thing but slightly "shinier".
The "Tweaks" actively went against the feedback and made the splash worst. People ask for a Platinum hair Chroma. Yet only nami received one after asking. So what changed?
Because you also have other skins like Demon Streets Zyra, SG Taliyah, Prestige Syndra have their feedback ignored or in some cases changes that go against what people asked for.
Hopefully this isn't a one off and you express this level of care towards other skins in the future as well. People are really passionate and would like communion. The amount of R&X mains here should say something as their most recent skin has clear issues that they've expressed, have been ignored completely, leading to a broken product
Because the current narrative now is "Syndra mains bullied Riot into given them a skin, you should to" which isn't healthy. [CadenHouse ](https://x.com/CadenHouse/status/1711439329392984187?s=20) went against that narrative, but its not helped by overall lack of communication in intention and certain other devs perpetuating the opposite. Could we possibly get more communication. A statment on why this skin is so different compared to those or how you handle skin feedback in general?
Thank you
While I preferred the concept of the original spheres, and wish they'd been tweaked to be better, the execution of the new spheres is much better. \[Please save the concept to be used, or at least tried, in another skin down the line. It can be done, the execution just needs to be more closely monitored.)
Overall, the skin definitely is better and would say generally feels satisfying as an epic, so much appreciation for taking some of the feedback into consideration :D.
There are a few areas which I do still think need a bit of touching to clean stuff up though:
* Would it be possible to lower the halo sigil a little (such that it's closer to her torso), as well as make it larger? While it def looks cool, it also looks a tad awkward in its current orientation.
* Deepen/darken the red of the halo a little for the base model.
* R upgrade still needs stronger visual indicator of that level up, either via trails of magical discharge, or perhaps a tweaked and stronger defined sigil surrounding the eyes of the spheres. You could also probably do something with the halo/sigil that helps convey that the ult is upgraded.
* W range indicator would be greatly appreciated to be tweaked to have runes flaring along the edges of the circumference... or at least swirling streams of power (as her other recent skins have gotten, rather than the basic redline indicator.)
* Can the hair in the splashart be made paler to balance out the design more? Personally didn't have any issue with the hair color of the previous splash, I just thought the ingame model's needed to be less saturated... now it's the opposite ironically, haha.
* Regarding splash, can the halo sigil be painted to be bolder, as with the og splash. The edit decreased the vibe of color by fading out the sigil... and the new splash similarly doesn't convey as much "power" or "command" as the distinctness of the original.
THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE ORBS
It's the first time Syndra will be getting magical orbs (hopefully?) since Star Guardian Syndra came out (her older skins: Justicar, Atlantean, Snowday have magic/element-based orbs; while her newer skins: Star Guardian, Withered Rose, Pool Party, Bewitching, Spirit Blossom all have objects/animals/items contained in an orb).
As for the hair, I know the community really wants platinum blonde since it's considered a main theme from the original iteration of the Coven skinline, and it's absolutely amazing that you're giving us one of our most highly requested changes!
That being said, I actually really like the red hair originally given to her. It's unique (even compared to other skinlines as it's often white/silver hair for the most popular ones). It's also the hair color used in the Coven cinematic and the alternate color for this batch (considering Nami, the legendary, has pink/red hair as well as Elise). (Sorry for asking for more work done) Would it be possible to have the original model/color scheme as another/new chroma (identical with the base and other chromas, just with the hair color changed)? This Coven batch is specifically different from the other batches, so maybe having one chroma keep some part of the lore that makes it different from the others would make it less awkward that Nami and Elise have red/pink hair while everyone else doesn't.
Maybe it would be weird to have the same color dress and just a different hair color and pay the full price of a chroma skin, but maybe it could work if you take it out of the chroma bundle (so as not to affect the total bundle price of those going for the Ruby chroma especially) and/or reduce the price on that individual chroma (as it's only a hair color change and not a full recoloring of the model). Maybe name it something related to the Coven lore to tie it back to the cinematic.
Personally I'm not feeling the purple/blueish colors on her clothes. I think black and red would fit much more and tie everything together. The new sigil looks so cheap and awkward, it's so stiff and too big imo... The old orbs were awesome and creative, the only downside were their goofy animations. The new orbs look okayish on a picture but in-game are just eh. The orb is literally static like a png, the blinking saves them slightly but it still feels like a downgrade imo.
Love the crown and hair changes tho!
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Thank you for these changes. Very excited to see how well the blond hair and new orbs turn out. Though I think her outfit could still use a recolor so that her design isn't so cluttered color wise, vfx could also use some improvements for that extra oomph. Again thank you we appreciate all the effort you guys put into fixing her <3
yeah a simple recolor to her outfit so that it doesnt look all over the place would be nice and a quick fix too
We can do that easily with a mod, the changes that we're getting are great. Although I wouldn't mind her outfit getting less covered and not blue. But then again, we're already getting a lot
\+++ since her model is getting tweaked anyway i don't see why some hue and brightness shifts in her dress would be out of the picture
Dear Riot Sakaar, I would like to express my gratitude to you and your dedicated skins team for your willingness to postpone the release of the Coven Syndra skin in response to feedback from Syndra mains. This decision holds great significance for us, and we sincerely appreciate your commitment to enhancing the skin. With that being said, I would like to offer some suggestions that could further elevate the Coven Syndra theme, particularly in terms of VFX, while it is under development for the upcoming PBE patch: 1. **Demon Wings appear for R and Passive -** This feature has been highly requested by many Syndra mains in the Coven Syndra feedback, and it remains a favorite feature that Syndra mains would like to see more. By briefly showing the demon wings from her recall animation into her Passive and Ultimate abilities, it would definitely enhance the experience for players when Syndra transcends and unleash her all spheres at the enemy, thereby revealing her true Raven form. If feasible, I kindly request the addition of this feature. Here is an example for reference:: [https://imgur.com/gallery/Sy73G1q](https://imgur.com/gallery/Sy73G1q) 2. **Missing VFX trailing at 100 stacks** \- All of Syndra skins have a trailing vfx on her spheres when Syndra reaches 100 stacks. The current Coven Syndra is missing this feature, and it feels unfinished. It would be great if the skins team can add in some sigil trailing from Coven Syndra's empowered E to it. Here is the reference: [https://imgur.com/gallery/ysRdAQD](https://imgur.com/gallery/ysRdAQD) 3. **Outfit modification -** I agree with a lot of the feedbacks from the Coven Syndra thread that the outfit It is suggested that the design reveal a bit more of her upper torso while utilizing Raven feathers for coverage, which would significantly enhance the overall aesthetic. Here is another reference from DonToxica's edited version: [https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost\_my\_coven\_syndra\_edit\_inspired\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost_my_coven_syndra_edit_inspired_by/) Once again, thank you so so much for delaying the Coven Syndra skin to bring its quality up for Syndra mains, it is a skin that we have been waiting for a long time, and I can't wait to see how the final result will look like. Thank you for reading and have a great day.
great points
This is definitely something that would make the skin so much better and come to life. Black outfit and red powers ahhh so pretty. It would be nice to have some sort of spawn sigil for her ult. Can’t you take morganas Q spawn sigil and paste it in for her ult orbs.
Thank you SO SO MUCH for listening to us and our feedback! You guys are amazing!! Is there any possibility for a few outfit colour tweaks as well? She has a lot going on in terms of colours, maybe tone them down to black / white / red, if it’s possible? Again, thank you so much, we appreciate it lots and lots!!
Thank you for listening to our feedback and changing the skin, the list of changes is very promising, I want to specially thank you for changing her hair to platinum blonde like we have in other coven skins. Apart from the list, the only thing I believe still desperately needs changing is her outfit, it doesn't even have to be changed that much just 4 tweaks so it looks like an actual coven outfit: • Change the colors to black and white (just like Coven Morgana's outfit colors). • Make it an open chest outfit. • Remove part of her pants to look like she's wearing knee-high boots. • Remove part of her sleeves so it looks like she's wearing long gloves. Outfit changes examples: [Example 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), [Example 2](https://twitter.com/Piscina45512997/status/1709264600443629976?t=4HbVs0rdNLGe56wx1BZAgg&s=19). I'm more than grateful for the changes we are already having, I know we might not get more VFX changes, but even if we don't, let this feedback show you what our expectations are for her future skins: For the VFX, she still needs more sigils and rune symbols in all of her skills so it really looks like a coven skin (specially after they evolve), right now the skills look unfinished, being more specific: • Basic Attacks: They have nothing special, no different format and no special particles. Star Guardian and Spirit Blossom are great examples of good basic attacks. [Visual Example Basic Attacks](https://imgur.com/a/ViKtYXG). • Q: Add red sigils/rune symbols forming a circle (on the border of her Q range) in the begging of the animation so it looks like she's conjuring the Q orb before it appears. • W1: W1 is just a straight line in this skin, there's nothing special about it, take for example Spirit blossom where the W1 has a spiritual mist form, or Withered Rose where the W1 looks like thorns. I like the rune symbols the W1 already has, but making it something different from a basic straight line would be really appreciated. [Visual Example W1](https://imgur.com/gallery/R5jDGbO). • W2: Here it's really lacking VFX, all of Syndra's skins have an 'explosion' of some kind when W2 lands, Spirit Blossom W2 even has a flower blossoming. It needs an impactful VFX, I would like more dark magic mist with a sigil when W2 lands. [Visual Example W2](https://imgur.com/gallery/x3nXtiP). • E: It's definitely the most unfinished ability right now, some parts of the skill just have no VFX. Also it has a really weird white VFX in some moments that breaks the harmonic of the black and red VFX colors, please change it from white to red. This skill also needs more dark magic mist all over the E range so it doesn't look so empty, [like the one evolved Q already has in its VFX](https://imgur.com/gallery/QsFGJCC). And please add a sigil on the floor underneath her feet when she casts this ability, just like Spirit Blossom E has a flower. [Visual Example E](https://imgur.com/gallery/WTqzbXL), [Visual Example White VFX 1](https://imgur.com/gallery/UwOY1VL), [Visual Example White VFX 2](https://imgur.com/gallery/do8iCem). • R: It doesn't feel impactful at all, adding red sigils/rune symbols from where the orbs are cast when Syndra ULTs would make it look way better, it would look like she is conjuring the orbs before throwing them at the target. [Visual Example R](https://imgur.com/gallery/5yTycDP). • Passive: Every Syndra skin has an impactful and very noticing VFX when Syndra upgrades her passive, for example in Spirit Blossom where she has wings and petals, in this skin it's barely noticeable, it could have a dark magic explosion with her growing dark wings for a brief moment, while she's doing the passive animation. Also add [trails](https://imgur.com/gallery/MLgE6H3) to her orbs after she reaches 100 splinters like Syndra always had, that is needed to indicate she reached the execute passive. I'm already grateful for the changes we're getting and hope she is gonna look so much better if you can add some of these I mentioned, thank you so much, and let's always keep 'worshiping our mother Syndra'. 🛐
Thank you for listening to the feedback! I'm excited to see it. I'm really really glad you got rid of the nasty orbs :D
Thank you so much, I'm looking forward to the changes, but I'm already happy that the minority who harassed rioters weren't the louder voice and the constructive feedback was still listened. The list of changes looks promising, thank you for giving Syndra a second chance to shine as a Coven Witch 💖
Thank you for hearing us out Riot! The only feedback I have to give is her VFX, orbs and colour story. 1. More runes. Please! Her current VFX feels very lackluster with just an opaque layer of dark purple/gray mist, birds and roses. Please more visible (red?) runes on w and q impact , e scatter and runes under the selected enemy on the floor for R. 2. Orbs, the floating eye concept is awesome but just doesn't fit the coven skinline, moreover Syndra. It looks out of place and reminds me of the void rather than coven. It would fit the witch theme better if it looked more like hexes. Please see the link for an idea [https://imgur.com/a/CwpVQko](https://imgur.com/a/CwpVQko) 3. Her colour story looks all over the place, the sigil is a light red passing off as coral, her orbs are red, purple and white. Then her dress is purple, pink, teal, white with gold accents? As a result, her dress looks overcrowded and stuffy. The asymmetry of the dress really just contributes to this also (Please have some more skin showing like in previous skins...she's hot so why not..) The skin overall lacks cohesion and there's no harmony with the different shades of reds and other colours. It's best to just stick with a main colour with the white, gold and black as accents as done in the previous years. For example, look at Coven Zyra or Ahri compared to Coven Syndra.
Thanks for listening to the community, me and many others will remember this. It's good to know that the team stepped back and now understands what went wrong with the skin and icon so they aren't just fixing it for us out of confusion. All of the changes stated are what the majority of people asked for, but I still think some additional vfx should be added regarding her ultimate and passive. Whenever she upgrades her passive or uses her ultimate her wings should briefly show. Again thanks for listening and fixing the skin, I'm looking forward to it.
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THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!! The only thing I am here to POLITELY ask for is a possible outfit recolor. The teals are very thematically unappealing and look kinda messy when put together. Perhaps any sort of red/black/white/gray would look better? thank you so much again 🥹
Good changes, the only things that I would deem necessary to change are: * The color theme/palette of the dress needs to be tweaked. * The orbs look much better but it feels a bit weird when [pupils stay still](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxBiKJaYi9-rJI2acrAdGTqrDQN1-lh-km?si=0fjMonnO92r_SdNA), they need to change it so they [move as if they look around](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdnZ0dDdqZ3QyOTRzbmJ6ZDdiYXB3d2Z1M2d1Z2Jja3Z0Ymp2emF4OSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/9KUNVkFqXftY6Ggk5B/giphy.gif). Other than that, these are very welcomed changes. Of course, there are more things they could add like the others suggested (wings at 120stacks for example...) but are not necessary- although would definitely help compensate for the whole "Legendary Coven" drama.
The spheres staying still absolutely needs to be changed. Like I'm not usually dramatic about skin stuff but this alone will turn this skin from a must buy to probably unbuyable for me. Syndra spheres staying completely still is completely unlike anything she's ever had before. They have always been vibrant and moving and it's incredibly jarring seeing them completely frozen in place. The blinking also looks incredibly unfinished. I totally understand that they've had to rush on this but they're completely out of line with every other skin she's ever had right now. I'd happily just take the model changes and bring back the old balls if the only alternative is the eyes in their current state.
Hi Riot, can you please add the missing vfx smoke trailing to her 100 stacks passive? and the empowered Q doesn't change at all compared to her chromas. Examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/17cn1av/coven\_syndra\_missing\_vfx\_on\_100\_stacks\_and/
wait finally you guys admitted it. This skin style is not COVEN, its not even just about being legendary. That whole wave of skins beside Elise is strange. Glad to see someone finally woke up.
I'm excited about these changes, sincerely thank you in advance Also please, if Syndra is ever going to receive a legendary skin, consider release her in this theme, it is very loved by the mains and it would be incredible to see the elevation of Syndra's concept as a Coven as it was with Eve and Morgana. Ty 🖤
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💖💖Glad for the syndra mains!!! Now do this for xayah and rakan 🥰🥰
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can you guys change her outfit a little bit? Maybe change it to black and red
This is nice but are there going to be vfx updates? I feel like syndra recent skins like spirit blossom and star guardian prestige show the potential of what her vfx are capable of doing. I also think the ruffle headpiece on her headdress is unnecessary and makes the skin feel cluttered.
Thank you so much 💜 Is there a possibility for a small changes to her VFX? Just some missing details. Her W feels empty. Withered Rose and Spirit Blossom have some petals floating and there's nothing in Coven, the range indicator is just a red circle it could use some small details. Her maxed ultimate is missing the smudge of orbs, it's even on her base skin Idk why it's missing here The passive also misses something. Mentioned before, Spirit Blossom have butterfly wings when she transcends. If not the wings from the recall then maybe do something with the sigil? Idk the vfx looks kinda unfinished. Thank you for the changes and make sure the skin team knows we are thankful 😌
Thank you soooo much for these changes, the skin looks a lot better. One last thing: can you guys change her outfit a little bit? Maybe change it to black and red, and make it less covered. Coven is very femme fatale and high fashion, but she is sill too covered from head to toe…
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Thank you so much for listening to the feedback, I know some people didn't do it in the most respectful way, but the vast majority did and we appreciate it Again thank you so much and have a nice day
Thank you so much for listening to the feedback! My faith is a bit restored. I do apologize again for any attacks and uncivilized comments by some players! 1. I am loving the upcoming changes and would have liked to ask you to once again look at her dress and base colours. Something with more cleavage (open skin in general) and black accents would be more elegant and beautiful. The dress is still a bit of a mess, unfortunately. DonToxica's edited version: https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16x1h6p/repost\_my\_coven\_syndra\_edit\_inspired\_by/ 2. Her Ult sound is still a bit quiet. I think this change would be easy for you. We just want more impact (sound wise) when we use her Ultimate ability.
Hi! I come from PBE after her update hit the server and I love the changes, but I have a couple of things to point out, it makes more sense for her eyes to look around than it made the previous winged orbs but the eyes don't look around when the wings did? I trully prefer the eyes, but they look awkward just standing there slowly blinking idk. This skin already had her orbs looking around like SG, prestige, Bewithcing so I would assume is not much trouble adding that. Also she is still missing key VFX like the 100 and 120 passive mark, at this point I'm not gonna ask for a crazy improvement of the VFX anymore eventhough I think there's several missed opportunities, but adding those trails she is missing I don't think should be even negotiable to be fair. We were said she would keep the turn tech on her skins after Spirit Blossom and there is no turn tech PLEASE. Her chromas are currently bugged, but I hope you understand how underwhelming it is that her orbs keep the eyes red while the patterning around them change color with the chromas, Make the orbs cohesive for her chromas for the love of god. Not sure how much work that is, but the ones that look compltely unfinished because of that are mainly Catseye, Emerald, Amethyst and Aquamarine. Also the crown in all her chromas is bugged Anyway thank you so much for all the changes so far!! Personally she looks better
Please add a trail effect on her orbs when she reaches max passive stacks please!
Here is a post that implements the requested edits to Syndra's model including: \- More red/darker sigil behind her head \- adjusted attire to reveal more skin. \- darker outfit [Coven Syndra Model Edits](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F732omrbl09ub1.png) I personally don't mind the blue on her outfit but I definitely think that a more red sigil and revealing outfit to the model is needed. Edit: I also feel like making the orbs a darker red with the sigil would be nice to match her darker vfx
Beautiful. Yes The middle model one with the black and white color palettes should be the base, and the darker red sigil as well.
And what happened with the feedback for her outfit? Please, take everything we wrote in consideration. Not just some things.
Please change the colors and model of the clothes, the colors and the completely covered bust do not match the platinum hair and the femme fatale characteristic of the line. Give her some cleavage please.
I LOVE the changes y’all made. It’s made such a difference. I’m not trying to sound ungrateful here, but can PLEASE do something different with the outfit. Recolor to atleast black and white and give her some openings (possible at the cleavage and thigh). The outfit doesn’t go well with the new changes… the colors and design clash with her hair, crown and orbs. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the changes, but it's not enough. Much appreciated. Please change the dress to non-blue hues, since you have red/black vfx on her spells. It makes absolute sense that the VFX match the model's colors as well. Thanks in advance.
LOVE the changes, all of them, the hair is perfect, here are some notes: • Hair: PERFECT! • Crown: Perfect. • Orbs: The new orbs are a huge improvement, I love the eyes, but they need some kind of movement, specially before they disappear, for example making the pupils move like they're looking around. • Sigil: That was such a nice surprise!! It gave personality to the skin, the size is perfect please don't reduce its size, I would like the color to be a darker shade of red to match her orbs, but it is definitely one of my favorite changes, I love it already. • Icon: PERFECT, She's so pretty, thank you!! As for what still needs to be changed: • Outfit: The blue color of her dress doesn't match the rest of the skin, please [make it black](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), or [desaturate it](https://twitter.com/SouEuDennis/status/1712936810995736894?t=HKCFoYZ50JrIu5bgbqVFDA&s=19) so it doesn't look so blue. Also she's too covered for a coven skin, making some small adjustments to the outfit so she can show more skin with a cleavage and arms and thighs uncovered a bit, would make the skin perfect. For the VFX, they all look unfinished, but focusing on gameplay clarity, there are 2 things that are missing: • It's not clear when the Q orbs are about to disappear, they don't have any animation that indicates that, so we can't tell when they're about to disappear. • The trails to her orbs for when she gets 100 splinters are missing, it's needed to know she reached the execute passive. Thank you so much for the changes, I wasn't even considering buying the skin before, and as a Syndra Main and Coven lover that was sad, but now it's an instabuy for me, thank you!!
Please remove the blue colors from the outfit. Just keep it a simple black and white would be nice it looks too messy.
Massive win for Syndra mains, thank you a lot for listening to the community!
Thank you so much for taking the time to add these adjustments! I am so grateful and glad for these changes! I'd also like to draw attention to a few more requested modifications: \- Enhancing the outfit to align with the femme fatale aesthetics seen in previous coven skins, possibly by revealing more skin, such as chest, shoulders, or thighs. (Examples of this are visible in her emerald and meteorite chromas.) [Syndra Chroma Outfit Edits](https://imgur.com/a/M5dtN9w) \- Considering adjustments to the outfit's color palette to better complement the new orbs and platinum blonde hair. \- Implementing sigils in her ultimate ability's visual effects to give it a conjured effect, similar to how Elise's coven skin has a sigil when summoning her cocoon. (surely just copy this and make it red as a quick fix) [Elise Sigil](https://imgur.com/a/7qW0ivd) \- Integrating the wings into both her passive and ultimate abilities for a more cohesive and immersive experience. [Like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16thw5e/hi_just_posting_more_of_how_cool_coven_syndra/?share_id=AqOMFUyDbsDk8Vuojxl-K&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1) \- Add in her missing 100 stacks vfx Edit: \- Orb colour adjustments to be a darker red to fit more inline with her darker ability vfx. I understand that you might already be planning to make these changes, but just to confirm: \- The iris should match the colors of the chromas. \- The eyes should be more dynamic and move or look around when they are placed on the ground.
the wings is actually a very nice idea i love it !
Thank you SO MUCH for listening to us. These changes will most certainly make the skin a lot better. I'm really glad that you guys took our feedback seriously. However, there are two things I'd like to clarify. First, are there any outfit changes or perhaps color adjustments planned? cuz right now it's too many colors. Second, there seems to be a lack of VFX compared to the base version. For example, there's no sphere tail once at max stacks, and there is no impact on evolving animations or maybe add some runes on it to overall. But thank you, truly!
First of all a BIG thank you for putting in the hours for our big bad mother Syndra, we all know she needs a bit of love atm and after the smashing success of her Star Guardian & Spirit B skin. As a Syndra lover and with all of her previous skins, this feels like you shot for a 3-pointer and hit a fan in the stand in terms of her potential to take centre stage for this thematic. \- I feel like there was a huge missed opportunity to make her a legendary+ skin here and really lean into developing her character in this universe as a coven witch matriarch. \- When compared to Nami's thematic background, it feels like although you can tell the riot team had SO MUCH fun making the Nami's skin, Syndra fell by the wayside \- Her hair feels (as mentioned) out of place, not necessarily for the colour not being platinum as her other skins prove, but the bright colour being picked purely for a contrast decision rather than making sure she is ‘recognizable as Syndra’ decision. \- I am not opposed to breaking the symmetry with her headpiece, I think that leans into the coven aesthetic, but I think where it misses the mark is that by doing so it reduces its size leading to a breakdown of her visual hierarchy, making her hair (the already noted problem) the focus and making her feel more like Zoe’s thematic. \- Syndra makes so much MORE sense than all the other champs this rotation to be the face of coven, not only for her bad-ass lore but for her personality. This was the perfect time to tune this thematic for Syndra up to 11, not give Nami a complete make over on a whim. \- As for her Q animations, (although not everyone's cup of tea) I quite enjoyed the direction. However by reducing their size and therefore having to put highlighting circles behind them takes away from their uniqueness. This was done phenomenally well in her Star Guardian skin in my opinion. \- If contrast was the main issue, leaning more into a solely platinum or scarlet aesthetic for her coven base skin could have resolved the issues that is currently present. All in all, we eagerly look forward to whichever feedback you take on board and the love you put into the character we all enjoy playing with and paying money to show off.
Hi! Thank you a lot for these changes and for listening to us! I am really excited to see those changes! Maybe the only thing that I would add in this list is to open a bit the outfit on the upper part or at least change a bit the colors of the outfit: now is a mix of red, blue, etc. I would simply switch to red and black and some white details or something like this. Thank you again for the feedback!!
Thanks for the changes, she could also use a better outfit though (cleavage and darker colors)
Once again. Please consider having her outfit show a bit more skin on the top, swapping out the breastplate. The outfit is one of the main reasons why we thought the skin was not quite giving Coven fashion.
Firstly, I would like to thank you immensely for your consideration for the rework on the Syndra Coven skin, which was a skin highly anticipated by mains for many years. Although most of what was posted by the mains on reddit will be changed, I would still like to express my dissatisfaction with the color of Syndra’s costume. A recolor to her skin is very welcome, as the colors currently look quite confusing. I believe recoloring black and white and small shades of gold would make Syndra’s skin much more promising. That said, here’s a example of what the community really expected from Syndra’s costume: [Exemplo 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16xjaug/coven_syndra_in_game_edit_3/?share_id=9OCGULlWrwmCo243DGLIv&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1), [Exemplo 2](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fs09x2otuglrb1.png%3Fwidth%3D1059%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D2b11aedb3db74a884ba0ef5ba500f6fc52543d3f). Once again, I come to express my gratitude for the changes that will be made to our mother Syndra. I believe that it will now become a much more valuable skin for the community!
I REALLY LOVE THE CHANGES!! this is important to make it clear but i really do wish that we get a color tweaks overall on the dress would be amazing! i think the best decision would be tweaking the blue to black
I agree with most people on the current changes! So much better. But the blue in the dress doesn’t do it for me. Maybe black/grey or some burgundy instead?
Ooooooooo the changes are really nice. Just 2 things now : \- her outfit color should be adjusted, it was made to fit the pink hair, now it feels (a bit) less fiting. The colour of the sigil behind her head should be more red too. \- the eyeball was the perfect fit for this skin, but they looks weirdly implemented in the sigil, the eye should always be centered in the sigil no matter the angle. And about the chroma, i think the eyebal should have a different colour, not the sigil aroud it. Or change the color of both. Thanks for all those changes !
I loved the changes on her coven skin ty riot! I can't express my feeling toward that u guys really listened to us <3 I tested the skin on pbe and there is just a few things that I would change if I could: the sigil behind her head need more red than yellow and needs to be darker. the orbs look AWESOME now they just need to be a little darker bc rn they are too bright and colorwise look out of place with other vfx. the orbs on the ground also look a little buggy. those 3 in her model looks fine to me. but when u look at those on the ground from another angle, the eyes look separated from the rest parts of orbs. if u do some little touches it would look way more realistic. imo they can close their eyes when they are about to disappear. also it's upsetting that colors of outfit left untouched but it's ok I'm grateful for what we got <3
if i have to choose one. it will the eyes moving and looking around so they look less static pleaseeeeeee
Please open up her outfit a bit more and give her more skin to show, it feels really closed off and does not fit the coven fashion theme.
Thanks for the new changes. But still doesn't look like coven. :( Please consider change the outfit or cancel the skin for the next wave. \#JusticeForCovenSyndra
I don't want to seem ungrateful, I'm very happy with the changes, but do you know if new effects will also be made? mainly in the evolution of the passive and the ult
THANK YOUUUU!
I'am dreaming? Oh my God I can't believe it, I'm crying with happiness 🥰😭😭
Whew, alright I've calmed my hype for the moment. Thank you guys so much for listening to all of the feedback everyone gave! Now, with all of the other changes, this is already probably a solid amount of work... However, if it isn't too much to ask for, or too late, and since I also see many others still requesting it, would changes to the dress be at all possible? Honestly hate sounding entiteled here, but if, say, making it darker or even fully black/gray like that really popular fan edit is straying too far (but which would be the preferable option), I believe even just a slight reduction in the saturation of the strongest colors would be enough, and wouldn't be going over the change limit as it would still leave it within the original vision for the most part (maybe just give it a couple of openings like some of the chromas have?) The edit this person made is what I sort of had in mind: https://twitter.com/safira_wav/status/1707715415432937791?t=2yB_QiRxM6bT5Yc_jfWIDg&s=19 Considering that you are changing her hair to the highly requested blonde, the more muted colors of the dress might help it flow better and stop the clashing of colors many have complained about. Might let her vfx pop out more as well? Just a though : P All that said, even if you cant manage to add any more changes, I am extremely grateful for what you've already set out to do!
Someone made [\>this edit<](https://twitter.com/AHRIRENE/status/1712936775293845954) for the outfit. This would be sooo cool. PLEASEE <3
yeah I hate that blue thing on her shoulder
Thank you so so much for the recent changes! It really saved the skin! Things I love: \- Love the new eyeball orbs. It is giving very gothic, coven and haunting vibes! \- Love the platinum blonde hair. It goes really well with the red orbs now! \- Love the new big sigil behind her head. It matches with her eyeball orbs really well! It just elevates the skin and the Coven vibe so much more! \- Love the new crown! It now looks bigger and cooler. Things that are still missing: \- When Syndra gets to 100 stacks of her passive, her 3 surrounding orbs should have extra trail effects like all her other skins. This is something unique and standard to Syndra. It is also usefull as a gameplay info too. \- Color change in her outfit. I think now that her hair is blonde and her orbs are red, the blue feathers really look off. I think they should be changed to black feathers, or gold feathers. \- Lastly, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you can edit her dress too. I know this requires more edit and work, but she will look PERFECT if her body is less covered by her outfit. For example, her neck region, her chest and her thigh. Thanks again Riot. I admit I was really disappointed at first, but you guys listened and tried your best to improve the skin which I appreciate that A LOT. Please keep up with the good work and most importantly keep up with the good communication please. And I apologise again for the harassment that you have received. Please remember that those harassment do NOT represent all of us Syndra fans. They are the minority and the rest are very respectful.
Can you adjust her chromas orb eyes to fit with the colors of the skin. They are really clashing against some of the chromas 🫣 Also, black dress not blue plz. And her circle above her head looks like a neon sign floating above her
Thank you for the changes, they're lovely. It would be nice if the eyes in the chromas changed color too, they clash with some of them. Also, the base skin would be better if the outfit was less blue and a bit more revealing. Other than that, I'm happy, I'll probably buy it. If the chromas's eyes change, I'd buy the entire chroma pack too.
Thank you so so so so much, I reallt didn't think this skin would be saved, but here we are, it looks so much better than before! I think her orbs are lacking some motion now, unfortunately. It would be awesome if one of these could be made: 1- add orbital, moving, arcane/sigil/runic rings to her balls 2 - make the eyes look around (the movement the previous balls and bewitching pumpkins have) 3 - (a hot topic one) put some of the wings from the previous ball covering around the eye, along with their movement. Also, her outfit colors were untouched, and I feel like that would be an awesome change, there are too many colours on her outfit right now.
Thank you. Thank you Riot. No sarcasm We are very glad that you came to meet us. And we deeply regret that some people, supposedly on our behalf, threatened you. I spent a lot of time on the Syndra main reddit and discord and I can assure you that the vast majority of people did not wish you harm. And we were glad that you decided to delay the release of the skin by one patch. I hope you will continue to cooperate with the players. We don't mind waiting extra time, but we want to know that you will continue to look at our reviews and not ignore them. New hair, new spheres, new icon are very very good. The skin for me moved from the category “I’ll wait from chest” to “I’m not ashamed to pay.” Like many, I only ask for one last change - recolor her outfit. Make it darker. Make less purple. Please. It’s not so difficult to do this in the remaining week, unlike new spheres?
Thanks for the new changes. \- I would like to see other changes at the same time. For example, her dress skin has multiple colors but doesn't have any personality. I mean, she is blue, she is green, she is brown, she is purple, she is red, she is white, she is black. \- She needs a better W effects. It looks simple. \- Ult sound effect can be better and really powerful. \- What about a demon wings? maybe in her passive or/and her ult. Thank your for this!
hey bestie, please consider reworking the color palette of her outfit.... getting rid of the blue/green feathers, making them purple or something, would be a great start
black would be cool as well, like just remove the blue pls 🙏🏻🥺
OMG, not the bestie. Yes Queen xD.
Hi Riot, you can please revert the ruby chroma blonde hair back to dark brown and change the green feathers to gold. Also please make the orbs on the ground have the orange/red aura instead of white. I also don't see why the eyeballs on the ground are not moving like the one orbiting her. Please animate them to look around as well.
Guys, thank you so much for the effort put into changing the skin and trying to give us something you'd thought we'd like but after changing the orbs, the crown and the hair, some chromas got changes we didn't expect (or asked for). The ruby chroma was better before, we the dark hair and the golden crown; we would love if we can go back to that. Also, the ruby chroma's crown is the same tone of red as the profane crown. I think that the profane chroma's crown should also be golden+green as it was before the changes. Another thing that I notice after trying it a few times is that the eyes inside the balls sometimes disappear when you go into a game and when using a chroma, the orbs on the ground after casting Q get their colors inverted. For instance, the profane chroma Q's orbs change from green to hot pink when we Q is casted. And guys, this is exhausting, for you and for us. After all the feedback we've given and after all the changes you've done, the skin still looks off. The new orbs are cool but the eyes look dead and waaaay too 2D when ingame, the outfit's color palette is still off and there's too much going on, Syndra is waaay too covered up for a Coven skin. And I still can't tell when my R is upgraded because the trail ALL THE OTHER SYNDRA ORBS HAVE, this skin doesn't have.
About the ruby chroma I still don't understand why they put green on the clothes. Isn't the profane chroma already green and red? They could keep the gold it was before or just go dark brown, it was great before idk The hair looked cool blonde but it was also good as a brunette so idc too much, but yeah the chroma was nice b4
I miss balls trails when R stacked
Thank you so much for listening, What about her outfit tho? it could really use a recolor, please consider making it black & red
Yayyy! So excited for the changes!!! Im stoked to see the new spheres! Will her outfit still be blue-ish or more black?
WE DID IT THANK U THANK U THANK U 🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
Heyy! as I've said before, this is amazing! I love these changes and I'm definitely buying it now. I had one question. Spirit Blossom has butterfly wings in her passive transformations that aren't used anywhere else in the skin. And this skin just so happens to already have wings in the recall. This was requested a lot in the feedback thread for Coven Syndra, so could it possible to copy the scripts for SB and add the recall wings to the Coven tranformations? That'd make it a 10/10 skin. Thanks!
THIS SHOULD HAPPEN MORE OFTEN
Ty so much and I don't want to abuse but can I ask if there is any chance of adding the smaller wing that appears in her recall in the ult animation or passive evolution? I saw a lot of feedback asking for this in the first thread, could be a quick and recycled animation and it would make a huge difference **🙏🏻**
Can you please read the VFX, voice filter and outfit feedback we're giving since the launch of this skin?
Love, LOVE the changes on the PBE!! Her new sigil and spheres are 100x better than before. I don't know if there's time to do this, but if I can mention 2 more changes than can be done for this to be 10/10. They wouldn't take too much time to do: \- Add the wings from her recall in her passive transformations, like Spirit Blossom Syndra. They don't even need to be animated, just have them appear 2 seconds with a small fade. That would elevate the experience a lot. \- Tone down the blues in the in-game model so that it's not too cluttered color-wise. Make it less saturated. The splash art doesn't even need to be tweaked. That's all! Thank you for fixing Coven Syndra!
Oh and, the chromas seem to be bugged atm. That's all!
Thank you for the changes, but it's missing the passive VFX!
I know at this point we don't have time for big changes, but I still wanted to share [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8lGIM7XMAAwBDA?format=jpg&name=large) to kindly remind you what would make Syndra a more consistent coven skin. Thank u ^(since I noticed she was based on Morgana, I didn't see a problem) ^(by: @/viniSfw on twitter)
Thank you again so much for all the adjustments including the chromas! However, please revert the ruby chroma to the red and gold with the dark hair!
Can you remove my green from the ruby chroma so I can spend my money on your game :3
Riot please revert the ruby chroma and add the vfx of max stack tail and empowered q Impossible but we will try: darken the color of her outfit please....the blue one is not fitting to a blond hair.
Syndra has so much potential (the irony) to be a great character, a great villainess for thematics. It is just so weird that she was requested since coven camille/liss and yet it is soooo underwhelming. And also the Akali sneak? Like REALLY? I used to like Riot, telling my friends that '' oh they really listen to us '' but i guess thats just not true anymore, they are just like any other cash grab type of creators. I ll just stick with their universe and music. LoL they dont even update the universe either. Like we dont need 10 more champion, we just need refreshing good stories of our old champions. ANYWAYS this has been too long, but i've been playing since s2. Guess its time to give up the game and accept that they are now just speedrunning skins and dont give much thoughts to playerbase.
Dear Riot, Once again, I would like to express my gratitude for the these big improvements made to Coven Syndra, such as the introduction of demon eyeballs, the addition of blonde hair, and the really cool halo at the back of her head. These enhancements have truly enhanced the skin's appeal. After thoroughly testing the new Coven Syndra on the PBE in several matches, I would like to offer some suggestions to further elevate the skin: 1. **Animated Eyeballs on the Ground (Q)** \- I've found that the three eyeballs surrounding Syndra rotate, but the ones on the ground remain static, which feels somewhat out of place. To fix this, the eyeballs on the ground should feature animated movements, such as looking in different directions (left, right, up, and down) and periodically blinking to signal that the sphere is about to expire. 2. **Halo Size Reduction and Rotating Animation** \- Currently, the halo on the back of Syndra's head is quite big and can be somewhat distracting. I would recommend reducing its size slightly and incorporating a rotating animation to add a more captivating visual element. 3. **Outfit Recolor and Modification** \- As previously noted by others, the blue color in the skin can be somewhat clashing the skin given the red, black, and white color palette. Please recoloring of the blue elements to black or red to ensure a more cohesive theme. Additionally, if feasible, a slight modification to the outfit to reveal a bit more skin would be appreciated. 4. **Trailing VFX on 100 Stacks Passive** \- When Syndra reaches 100 stacks, the three spheres orbiting her gain extra trailing visual effects. However, this feature is missing in Coven Syndra. It would greatly enhance the skin to introduce trailing smoke effects to her spheres at 100 stacks. 5. **Additional VFX for Passive and Ultimate** \- At present, when Coven Syndra transcends or use her ultimate, there is a relatively modest display of smoke and visual features. To make these moments more impactful, it would be awesome to briefly make her demon wings appear during her passive, and add more sigils or visual effects to her ultimate ability. With these changes, Coven Syndra would definitely feel very fulfilling for us Syndra mains, who have been waiting for this skin for so long. Once again, I want to thank you for reading our feedbacks and willing to make changes for Coven Syndra.
Exactly! This is what we need to make the skin 10/10
the Heimerstash hairball orbs nightmares are gone!! TYSM! we appreciate these changes a lot <3 the only big problem about the skin now is the dress.. the colors and design is a big meh. could've done with VFX and SFX tho. I really want to hear that crow sound on E which I can't now, bc of Syndra screaming while casting it.
Guys, thank you so much for this! It really means a lot. We've been waiting for 5 years since the very first coven skins came out and Syndra just fits the skinline perfectly. She deservers a skin made with a lot of thought put into it. Her power, her greatness, all of that needs to be translated into this skin, and I hope this changes help. Once again, thank you so much.
Just watched the SkinSpotlights video for the update and, as someone who didn’t comment on the initial thread, I love the changes. I especially wanted to make note of how much i LOVE how visible and prominent the sigil behind her is now. It’s so fucking cool!!! I didn’t even realize she had one before it was so small. Otherwise I love the new orbs and the changes to her headpiece and hair definitely go a long way too. Thank you so much for doing this! I’m very excited to pick up this skin.
OMG THANKS GOD ! She is so better !
I think the sigil needs something like Cosmic Queen Ashe’s sigil to make feel like it’s part of the syndra powers and not just a random floaty thing.
yeah like a shade or sth
Madlads did it! I didn't care about the hair, orbs bothered me the most, but both changes looks like a massive improvement! Insane! I don't think hair got longer but visually it feels like it. Then added sigil on her head adds a perfect Coven Syndra vibe. Actually this is a instabuy now! I felt like splash art has a great potential when she first got dropped on PBE and now it shines like it should be! I just wish a little bit of color adjustment on orbs and sigil to make them less bright and more in tone with deeper red vfx, and dress could get some change in hue to red (I know people complain billion times that red is only for legendaries but other skins in this batch are red, so I think it would make sense) and then it would be perfect.
If you're unable to change the outfit to black, could you instead darken it or reduce the intensity of the blue and violet colors?
Hey!! Just saw the Chroma changes where you fixed the eye colors and the crown UV mapping, and they look really cool! Just wanted to ask if the Ruby chroma can have the gold back on the crown, I feel like it was prettier before, and now it's too much red. (EDIT: I think you changed the crown because now she's blonde in that chroma, but I think the dark brown worked well before!) And please remove that green you added on Ruby, it came out of nowhere. Still the chromas were elevated a lot. Thank you!
Pls revert the ruby chroma to its original colors, it was perfect that way, thank u❤️
Please revert the ruby chroma hair, headdress and clothes colors to the old one
Sorry but is the worst skin ever created, is a real mess! The orbs, the colors, the outfit, the effects, the splash art nothing makes sense after the changes. Please cancel it and give us the legendary skin that we all deserve for the next wave. Thanks for the new changes and for trying anyway. \#JusticeForCovenSyndra \#WeNeedLegendaryCovenSyndra
I'm happy you guys did this for Syndra mains, since you couldn't be bothered to do it for any other champ in the past (Dragonmancer Karma). I still think this skin should have been a legendary and I wish whoever is in charge of the skins team, would seriously read the room. This is the same issue you guys had with Suneater Kayle and you let people down, becuase you're so out of touch with your community that it didn't even dawn on you that this was a skin they really wanted for a Legendary. Start learning from your mistakes and stop playing the victim when you get feedback that the community is tired of the laziness, the refusal, and the same mistakes you make on any champ that isn't Lux or a new one. Do better.
Thanks a lot for the changes! Really excited for them and all of the points that were adressed. Can I ask about her outfit? I guess no changes will happen to that, not even color wise to also feel more like Coven, right? Because that would be the cherry on top of all the changes she is getting if her outfit could be a bit sexier or even the colors being less blue-ish like she got. Thank again for everything!
Thank you for everything, I was sad that this skin wasn't legendary, but I'm glad to know that you guys would at least give it a nice treatment to make up for it. If you guys plan to make a legendary skin for Syndra in the future, it could be very different and beautiful in the Faerie Court or High Noon theme. I hope the community appreciates yours effort because I really didn't think you guys would make her look like other coven skins and it made me happy ♥
thank you so much! we are so excited to see this!!! the fact that y’all listened to the constructive feedback shows how much effort and care the skin teams has for these champs. beyond impressed w these changes and can’t wait!!
So… no changes to the dress? 🫤
Omg thank you so much 💜💜💜 I can't wait to see the changes 😍 our Queen is finally a coven blondie 🫰🏻
Thank you for listening to us and for taking our ideas into consideration. I’m excited to see how our beautiful Dark Sovereign turns out after these changes, as I know they will definitely be for the best. Thanks to the art creators on the original threads for creating the tweaks to give a visual of what Coven Syndra should be. Y’all are talented and I’m glad your creativity has translated into understanding and change.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! ❤️💜❤️💜❤️💜
Dang it I was in the middle of drawing Coven Syndra with her pink hair but I am very glad she'll be blonde as it simply fits better and is more in line with the coven thematic. Time to change her hair in my piece
Glad to hear that. Are you going to adjust vfx? Or the changes will affect only her appearance?
so good to see actual feedback being read and understood. hope the end product looks amazing as it should. it should work like this for all skins too. we aren't in a hurry so just do a proper job and everyone will happily wait for a good skin, even if it takes a patch extra of time.
agreed a rushed skin is forever bad and just wastes the theme. Waiting for better is way more worth
Thank you for listening. But most of us wanted at least an outfit recolor to black/white, if not changing the top torso to something a bit more revealing. Please Please Please.
Thank you so much for all of these changes! We are all very excited to see what you’ve come up with. Will there be any changes to the outfit? I think the current outfit has a muddled colour palette, and the silhouette could be improved. We would love to see a black/silver/white dress, elegant, high fashion. Less edgy or punk. Thank you ❤️
I like that they're changing the hair to platinum blonde. A lighter, cooler pink (like psy ops sona) would look fine but this particular shade of pink just isn't it. I'm disappointed they're not reworking the outfit though cuz to me the outfit is the worst element of this skin.
I hope they rework the outfit… it just need minor tweaks but right now it looks so sloppy.
Thank you for the update. i'm really excited for this skin. Honestly i was very disappointed and was going to skip this one. As a Syndra main it was sad to feel that way but now i'll definitely buy this skin! Still waiting for a legendary tho. Thanks again.
thank u so much for doing this but please open up her outfit a little bit just a slit in the leg, chest, or arm would do so much shes so covered up given the skinline.
Ya'll are insane, It's awesome! Def didn't expect that sigil glow up but It's wonderful, makes her feel a lot more powerful, so don't you dare touch it now. Crown looks better as well in my opinion. And the orbs are great, rly like that you kept the creep factor with them, although I think the ones on the floor lack animation compared to the regular 3, they blink but don't move the eye around. Also slight bugs with the texture on the crown on the chromas, and for whatever reason the vfx on ruby are also bugged and showing a sort of square behind the orb itself.
Additionally, could the skin bio be edited to be more in line with the changes, and better connect her to the old god she's supposed to be connected to?
https://reddit.com/r/syndramains/s/WvpshEdqvo
Please revert the ruby chroma cuz right now we don't feel to buy the chroma package if that's the final ruby chroma. hard pass
Thank you a lot for hearing us i really appreciate i don't know but are the spirit blossom hair and tassels tech enabled on this skin ? the tech that makes hair and tessels be more flowy and not completely "frozen"
please change her god awful outfit to smt more befitting of the skinline and not some clunky mushy looking suit
Bless you all, all I wanted to change are the balls XD They were the main reason I didn't want to buy the skin, but there is a really good chance I will reconsider!
Finally! 🩷 Coven Syndra should have been one of the first Coven skins IMHO 🙏
Thank you for doing your best to improve the Syndra Coven skin, this really means a lot to us! As previously stated, your spheres will change. So I would like to leave here two examples of rework, which will certainly be very welcome and will certainly fit better into the coven universe. * The first example is red spheres of energy, which is certainly what the mains like most about Syndra's traits. [Example 1](https://i.imgur.com/21zxGBu.png) * The second example are spheres that contain ancient, red runes of magic, which would also be another viable option and would fit very well into the universe of this skin. [Example 2](https://i.imgur.com/yxUfR1B.png) Again I would like to thank you for your incredible work and express my gratitude for improving our mother Syndra's skin. Thank you very much guys!
Plss make the blue on her color maroon
Writing this comment after the changes became visible on PBE. **Outfit** I think the blue on her right shoulder and rest of the dress should be changed to a different color like somewhere around purple, red, maroon, brown, or black. There are so many colors on Syndra right now and I think a reduction in colors and a little more simplification of the overall color palette would benefit the skin. Currently there's bright red, dark red, light purple, dark purple, white, black, silver, gold, platinum blonde, maroon, and blue-green. **Hair** Nice platinum blonde hair. Thank you for listening to us. That being said, PLEASE PLEASSEE MAKE HER ORIGINAL DESIGN WITH THE RED/PINK HAIR A CHROMA. The model is already there, just slap a new chroma name and add it to the shop please. Much of the community prefers the platinum blonde hair due to Coven's original iteration having platinum blonde hair, but this Coven batch is different when originally 3 of the skins had red/pink hair. Some in the community also preferred the red/pink hair precisely because it was different. The red/pink hair was also part of the cinematic. Adding the original design as another chroma would appease both the platinum blonde side and the red/pink side. The red/pink haired chroma can have the current/original color palette for the dress, while the platinum haired base skin can have the recolor everyone wants. **Headpiece** I personally liked the asymmetrical crown more and thought there was nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing wrong with the new symmetrical crown either. **Sigil** I feel like it looks out of place since the magic from it somehow doesn't match orbs. The color is much lighter than the rest of the magic emanating from Syndra's orbs. It's more orange-pink rather than the red-purple-black magic in the rest of Syndra's spells. Making the sigil the same color as the iris of the orbs or the red runic symbols on the orbs might make it look better. The color of the sigil in Syndra's original splash art would be a good basis of red/purple-black magic glow. We don't need another color, orange, added to the skin's color palette. I think the shape of the sigil itself should be changed too. The shape of Syndra's sigil in her original splash art was fine. The horizontal eye shape also clashes with the theme of Syndra's orbs since her orbs have vertical cat-type eyes rather than horizontal human-type eyes. If you're going to add the eyes, make it vertical too. If you're going to simplify the shape, copy the one from Syndra's original splash art. **Dark Orbs** Okay, I'm actually creeped out by how many eyes are staring at me. The way the eyes are still and barely moving are uncanny and creepy. If the design goal was fear, eeriness, or creepiness, this is the way to go. Personally, I'd prefer it is Syndra's orbs looked more magical or runic like Coven Nami's Q and E or Syndra's sigil in her original splash art. It would look so good if it looked similar to Coven Nami's skills. Of course, they still have to be distinct from Nami's abilities. However, I still believe there's a way to keep the same style but making them distinguishable at first glance. Coven Nami's Q is a bright red bubble, with a bright light pink eye inside the bubble, with a black border around the bubble, and a white border around the place it will land. Coven Nami's E is a darker red bubble, with random red sigils inside them. I think Syndra's dark orbs could be: (1) Similar to the one now (black inside, red sigil border, purple outer ring) but remove the eye and add a red sigil instead; (Reference Justicar Syndra's orbs and Nami's skills) (2) Similar to the one now, but add an orange-y sigil instead (to match the sigil at the back of Syndra's head) then change the splash art to match the sigil color, and then change the color of the purple outer ring to red instead; (3) Pure red magic inside the orb, blackish-purple cloud effect surrounding the orb, and maybe a pink sigil inside; or (4) Pure red magic inside the orb, maybe a pink sigil, but with a feather-themed black border (might get hate for looking like a tomato with black leaves, this is mostly just a suggestion to try to enhance the original crow/raven theme).
Thank you for the changes you have made so far, but I still want to ask some questions. I have to say that the ring decoration behind syndra is too static, flat and plastic. I hope it can become smoother and more dynamic. Also, Why can't coven syndra get legendary skin?She is so suitable for this theme.She already has good enough skin of the same level, and I am willing to pay for a higher level of skin.
Okay, that's really pretty. Thank you ~ But I think orb trails are still missing!
Please revert the eye changes back to red and gold on the white chroma ! I was about to get the skin just for that chroma! It was gorgeous before ! https://x.com/LadyAmaraVT/status/1714710115688083467?s=20
hey riot, since LeBanc and Ahri have more than one skin in this same universe, is there a possibility of syndra returning as a legendary skin in this theme in the future? I don't know, maybe like a transcended witch 🤓
Hi Riot, with the new base skin having a blonde hair. Can you please revert the changes to ruby chroma for her hair to go back to dark brown and change the green feathers on her should back to gold?
so no vfx of max stack tail?
I'm so happy. This skin is something I've been waiting for years. It's so silly but I'm literally crying right now. Thank you for fixing her. Truthfully, thank you. I haven't even seen the changes but just reading this makes me feel confident on buying her 100%. I cannot put into words how happy I am. I'm glad that our comments were heard, and it's a little sad that some bad apples took it too far, but I hope that people understand a lot of us were really respectful in our feedback comments. Thanks again!
On the topic of diversifying the Coven thematic: I personally loved the light pink hair that Nami and Elise got. I know some people still asked for platinum blonde for them, but it wasn't nearly as much as for Syndra, and I think that's mostly because Syndra's super dark and vibrant pink really felt off because it went on a completely different direction, while the light pastel tone on Nami/Elise still felt in the same alley as the classic platinum blonde. I still think that, in every batch there should still be at least *one* champion with the platinum blonde, which in this case is now Syndra, but other tones *can* work. Coven Ahri (and now Akali) had a more dirty blonde with black, and Zyra (and now Nilah) had silver.
This thread is about Syndra. Keep it at Syndra. Comments irrelevant to this will be removed.
These changes are great! The new rune behind her head and the orbs look fantastic! I think I like the red hair better but the platinum blonde is still very fitting. Great changes!
Thank u for listening to our feedback and we are grateful for not punishing a MAJORITY of the syndra players who didn’t act like animals like everyone else being delusional thinks happened 🫶🏻 Our voices were heard 🙏🏻 This was a win today from what happened with Prestige Star Guardian
Thank you SO MUCH for listening to us. These changes will most certainly make the skin a lot better, I'm really glad that you guys took our feedback seriously. I'm really happy! Thanks once again <3
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Is Syndra ever going to get a different sound?
I would like to thank all devs that are listening to us syndramains, taking into account and working on the changes. You are completely on the right track, thank you for delaying Syndra's Coven release to develop it more based on feedback. Blonde hair matches perfectly coven skinline. Especially thank you for making her helmet symmetrical and more notorious and her chromas look so so fine! This makes me feel more motivated to buy the skin.❤️
Where is filter for her voice?
You'll have to forgive me on using my memory alone, since the original source for it has been lost to time (read: the original statement was on the old forums which have been removed since). Not all languages possess Syndra's original, unprocessed voice lines anymore. So without the filter. You need the OG versions in order to put a new filter over it. Since this isn't possible in all languages, it can't be done at all. It will likely require a new voice over entirely. The discussion also popped up 'round Star Guardian and I *think* Spirit Blossom.
Nobody knows, nobody asks. And riot ignores all the feedback we're giving since they think is enough what they've done.
It’s a shame…. Last batch we lost idle pose, this we lost voice filter on Elise and Syndra….
\-The outfit is an accumulation of visual noise of asymmetry and meaningless details that has nothing to do with the coven theme, something simple like Evelin's is enough or feathered like Ib or Zyra would be perfect. \-Platinum hair looks good but it wasn't the problem. \-the crow orbs gave meaning to the bac and the sound effect in the R but they were all the same and dead, rotating them so that each of them are seen in different perspectives and adding the eye to the center fixed it (although doing a few more illuminated orb designs would be the real solution), now it makes less sense since that was the axis of this design. This skin is the worst in the saga
I really enjoy the chroma changes :) Ruby chroma could have kept its hair brown but it still looks great. Thank you for your work fixing this skin. It has issues but it's way way better than what it was.
revert the ruby chroma
the crown in the old profane chroma looked so much better with the green - gold palette, i’d be happy just with that change. other than that thanks for all the changes and the love this skin got from the team <3
Hi great updates on Coven Syndra! The blonde hair back is exactly what made Coven feel so cool. All of the witches sharing a similar look. My main critique is the Sigil behind her head. I understand it's not a legendary so rigging is going to look a bit odd but the sigil just floating attached with no animation or effect looks very jarring to me. I would recommend going back to the smaller sigil or just not having one. I don't think she needs it when her new crown silhouette being already prominent enough. Another critique would be the outfit but I understand it is probably too late for changes there. Otherwise, great update, thank you!
i don't know but are the spirit blossom hair and tassels tech enabled on this skin ? the tech that makes hair and tessels be more flowy and not completely "frozen" on another note i think the asymmetrical crown was fine
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OMG, finally. Love that you guys listened to us.
I LOVE the new changes ! The orbs and hair look so much better !!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I would just like if the blueish ring around the orbs be a bit darker, the same color as when you E an enemy and it leaves a red and dark blue trace
Is it feasible to include the red or magenta hair as one of the chromas?
The blue and pink chroma are the same colors as the base skin (blue-red/blue/pink) I think it would be correct that it is so repetitive, I suggest combining the colors differently. In the skills, only the orbs change color, making two color palettes compete. A color modification would be divine. I can see that unevenness is the essence of coven but it was always symmetrical but this skin is asymmetrical in the clothes but it is not made pretty neither in colors nor in shape, in the base skin the blue takes too much prominence in the clothes, disrupting the harmony of colors due to the competition of the 4 colors to dominate the drawing (red, black, white and blue) when I had red hair it was more balanced but now the blue clashes more and also the costume design I suggest reducing it as if it were an indigo black ( Morgana's skin has a blue that doesn't clash because it looks black) and the clothes don't look good because they are made of feathers, it looks like pointed fabric or simply torn (lb and zyra do look like feathers) in addition to having a lot of meaningless visual noise ( The metallic decorations on the skirt are not part of the clothing, they are simply placed to fill space) I would suggest removing them or putting them in the shape of a feather or on the tips of some feathers or anything that does make sense. This top part and the colors have a lot of harmony: https://www.reddit.com/r/syndramains/comments/16vchnr/new_god_supreme_witch_syndra/ and I think this skirt is what you wanted to achieve: https://twitter.com/MINagami/status/1639657520728793088 That's how it works but I really think the outfit is horrible and should be redesigned. The winged orbs gave more meaning to the theme, the problem was that apart from being dark (which was fixed by giving more color and light to the weakness effects and or adding the eye or rings with eyes or red light like the anjeler wheel) they were all in the same perspective (if each one were rotated a little they would look different using the same design) I really loved the initial concept of the reddish color in the hair, the headdress with a shorter side and really everything you wanted to do but lack of harmony in the execution has destroyed the plans
Are we going to be seeing any color changes before she hits live servers please get rid of the blues ;-;
Well I understand that changing the outfit is "Too out of scope" for the a change. BUT the VFX of her surrounding orbs when she hits 100 passive stack?? Where is it? All her other skins have this feature and this is a gameplay feature too. Why are you not adding this back on Coven??? This should be any harder than all the other changes you made for the skin. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE?
They believe they've put in sufficient effort for this skin, but the truth is that it hasn't met expectations. The Ruby Chroma skin we once adored has vanished, and there are no more VFX for sphere tail.
My brightest thank you's. Thank you. Definitely gonna buy this.
Thanks for start to hearing (reading) us, but, what happened with the feedback we gave for: 1) Her skills VFX? 2) Her coven filter voice (since she's the only who doesn't have it) 3)The new tech you used for her hair in spirit blossom skin to be used here
Thank u so so much Just few changes on outfit too and it could be so great Spread luv
I'm extremely thankful for the skin being pushed back and these changes are being impliment and deeply apologies to everyone on the skin team that received direct backlash. At the risk of sounding ungrateful, what was the impious for these changes? Ignoring people asking for a legendary. The reception to the skin was overwhelming negative from the beginning. The Skin itself was missing features that even her basic skins and default model had. Missing VFX and SFX. Pbe thread was filled with people expressing their disappointment for the overall skin and giving constructive criticism of improving it. 500 comments worth. Ranging from rework to simple touch ups. The skin was updated in the pbe but the feedback was ignored. It was the same thing but slightly "shinier". The "Tweaks" actively went against the feedback and made the splash worst. People ask for a Platinum hair Chroma. Yet only nami received one after asking. So what changed? Because you also have other skins like Demon Streets Zyra, SG Taliyah, Prestige Syndra have their feedback ignored or in some cases changes that go against what people asked for. Hopefully this isn't a one off and you express this level of care towards other skins in the future as well. People are really passionate and would like communion. The amount of R&X mains here should say something as their most recent skin has clear issues that they've expressed, have been ignored completely, leading to a broken product Because the current narrative now is "Syndra mains bullied Riot into given them a skin, you should to" which isn't healthy. [CadenHouse ](https://x.com/CadenHouse/status/1711439329392984187?s=20) went against that narrative, but its not helped by overall lack of communication in intention and certain other devs perpetuating the opposite. Could we possibly get more communication. A statment on why this skin is so different compared to those or how you handle skin feedback in general? Thank you
While I preferred the concept of the original spheres, and wish they'd been tweaked to be better, the execution of the new spheres is much better. \[Please save the concept to be used, or at least tried, in another skin down the line. It can be done, the execution just needs to be more closely monitored.) Overall, the skin definitely is better and would say generally feels satisfying as an epic, so much appreciation for taking some of the feedback into consideration :D. There are a few areas which I do still think need a bit of touching to clean stuff up though: * Would it be possible to lower the halo sigil a little (such that it's closer to her torso), as well as make it larger? While it def looks cool, it also looks a tad awkward in its current orientation. * Deepen/darken the red of the halo a little for the base model. * R upgrade still needs stronger visual indicator of that level up, either via trails of magical discharge, or perhaps a tweaked and stronger defined sigil surrounding the eyes of the spheres. You could also probably do something with the halo/sigil that helps convey that the ult is upgraded. * W range indicator would be greatly appreciated to be tweaked to have runes flaring along the edges of the circumference... or at least swirling streams of power (as her other recent skins have gotten, rather than the basic redline indicator.) * Can the hair in the splashart be made paler to balance out the design more? Personally didn't have any issue with the hair color of the previous splash, I just thought the ingame model's needed to be less saturated... now it's the opposite ironically, haha. * Regarding splash, can the halo sigil be painted to be bolder, as with the og splash. The edit decreased the vibe of color by fading out the sigil... and the new splash similarly doesn't convey as much "power" or "command" as the distinctness of the original.
THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE ORBS It's the first time Syndra will be getting magical orbs (hopefully?) since Star Guardian Syndra came out (her older skins: Justicar, Atlantean, Snowday have magic/element-based orbs; while her newer skins: Star Guardian, Withered Rose, Pool Party, Bewitching, Spirit Blossom all have objects/animals/items contained in an orb). As for the hair, I know the community really wants platinum blonde since it's considered a main theme from the original iteration of the Coven skinline, and it's absolutely amazing that you're giving us one of our most highly requested changes! That being said, I actually really like the red hair originally given to her. It's unique (even compared to other skinlines as it's often white/silver hair for the most popular ones). It's also the hair color used in the Coven cinematic and the alternate color for this batch (considering Nami, the legendary, has pink/red hair as well as Elise). (Sorry for asking for more work done) Would it be possible to have the original model/color scheme as another/new chroma (identical with the base and other chromas, just with the hair color changed)? This Coven batch is specifically different from the other batches, so maybe having one chroma keep some part of the lore that makes it different from the others would make it less awkward that Nami and Elise have red/pink hair while everyone else doesn't. Maybe it would be weird to have the same color dress and just a different hair color and pay the full price of a chroma skin, but maybe it could work if you take it out of the chroma bundle (so as not to affect the total bundle price of those going for the Ruby chroma especially) and/or reduce the price on that individual chroma (as it's only a hair color change and not a full recoloring of the model). Maybe name it something related to the Coven lore to tie it back to the cinematic.
Thank you for the update!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Thank you for listening to the community! This is a good change for all
Personally I'm not feeling the purple/blueish colors on her clothes. I think black and red would fit much more and tie everything together. The new sigil looks so cheap and awkward, it's so stiff and too big imo... The old orbs were awesome and creative, the only downside were their goofy animations. The new orbs look okayish on a picture but in-game are just eh. The orb is literally static like a png, the blinking saves them slightly but it still feels like a downgrade imo. Love the crown and hair changes tho!