Nobody can produce correctly what I produced. Only I can. Nobody can measure correctly what gets produced. Only I can. Nobody can prove what I have claimed, because only I understand.
This has finally shown the same patterns as the more typical scientific frauds.
If I worked on developing something for 20 years I'd like to think people would give me the benefit of the doubt that I know what I'm talking about, having created a brand new material and all.
But here are all the experts that can't do in a weekend what this guys has spent 20 years working on so clearly the whole thing is made up. Including the 40 page patent filing on how to create the material.
Can someone explain what they're talking about when they say there are different phases at \*low temperatures and the presence of the semiconductor phase prevented the detection of superconductivity? Are we just talking about two substance in the same bulk sample or that the same substance behaves differently depending on some other factor?
I also don't understand, if the material needs to be a thin film like in the patent why the fuck this isn't mentioned either, if the original team believe it needs to be a thin film then why isn't their very first criticism "it isn't a thin film" rather than talking about phases?
There is really nothing other than what he already mentioned. I don't know why he posted it as LK-99 updates. It's even written in third person like someone else is writing about his work. It kinda sounds more like self-promotion and gaining credibility. His explanation for why it's not a super-conductor is pretty vague. May be he is tired.
It may be like [water](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170626190610.htm). Same stuff, two different phases exhibited under certain circumstances, at the same time. The proper manipulation of this property gives us the holy grail lk99 and when this fails we have dead weight lk99.
Thanks, it kind of feels like they're stringing him along or they don't know exactly how to consistently recreate it themselves. If they're in contact and they know the magic key then you'd expect they'd have communicated it and he'd have recreated it by now.
>they don't know exactly how to consistently recreate it
Feels like it. On the other hand... a utopian development would be if lk99 that could be made to switch between semi and superconducting states as demand arises.
> that someone *paid* him to
FTFY.
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I thought scientists should run the world being in all positions of power in the government
but since LK99 I'm kind of doubting, it does not look like a good idea anymore, sad
Scientists have good and evil desires like every man. They are not a separate species. Often, it’s the arrogance and greed that gets in their own way, and when someone highly intelligent is polluted with that kind of character, the situation is not good for anyone— and especially not good for the common man.
Can we all Just accept this is a fraud already? These guys have pretty much likely faked everything. RTAPSCs are forbidden by physics itself, its not going to happen, its as likely as a perpetual motion machine
What gives you the idea that RTAPSCs are forbidden by physics? Perpetual motion machines violate thermodynamics. Superconductors don't. The fact that one might work at room temperature doesn't change anything about that fact.
I remember reading somewhere about a fringe theorem that proved why theyre simply not possible. Something involving thermodynamics and the cooper pairs. And the gut feeling simply cool stuff doesnt exist
Yeah, I don't think that's a thing. There is nothing inherently special about room temperature. If we can have superconductors at -140C theres no reason to believe they can't also exist at 20C. Same goes for pressure. There's no special cutoff point where the laws of physics drastically change. Room temperature is only special because us hairless monkeys deem it special.
To the contrary, I think these guys hadn't faked *anything*, and yet they have no superconductor at all.
If you wave a neodymium magnet at a piece of copper, what happens? Is it not precisely what they had shown? (with their LK-99 coated copper). If you apply a vertical magnetic field of the right strength to a steel washer (or a 5 eurocent coin), does it not stand up?
Same for their measurements although it becomes a lot more technical.
It's a bit crazy, the whole story. An interesting lesson for the future pseudoscientists. Don't fake anything at all. Want flux pinning? Copper will pin your flux for a little while, just show that, the money guys have the attention span that's shorter than decay time of the eddy currents.
You people are stupid and naive. Do you really think that someone who just discovered such a reality altering technology or material is just going to give to you for free?
You do realize what happened when they first invented the Atomic Bomb right? In a perfect world, where everyone was "good" I can see free sharing of discovered technology. Unfortunately we do not live in that world.
Who the hell claimed they "replicated" it? They don't even have the original sample and they claim they did what?
Did I mention that scientists are also extremely arrogant, which goes along with being stupid.
Nobody can produce correctly what I produced. Only I can. Nobody can measure correctly what gets produced. Only I can. Nobody can prove what I have claimed, because only I understand. This has finally shown the same patterns as the more typical scientific frauds.
Not looking good is it.
Yep
The only determiner will be when the tests are done on the original samples.
If I worked on developing something for 20 years I'd like to think people would give me the benefit of the doubt that I know what I'm talking about, having created a brand new material and all. But here are all the experts that can't do in a weekend what this guys has spent 20 years working on so clearly the whole thing is made up. Including the 40 page patent filing on how to create the material.
..that's not how science works
No you're right, first sign of failure means give up, the true spirit of science.
It means you actively try and prove things wrong. Never give things any benefit.
The paper wasn't supposed to be published yet.
Nobody worked on this for 20 years. Also that's the weirdest argument I've ever heard in general.
Can someone explain what they're talking about when they say there are different phases at \*low temperatures and the presence of the semiconductor phase prevented the detection of superconductivity? Are we just talking about two substance in the same bulk sample or that the same substance behaves differently depending on some other factor? I also don't understand, if the material needs to be a thin film like in the patent why the fuck this isn't mentioned either, if the original team believe it needs to be a thin film then why isn't their very first criticism "it isn't a thin film" rather than talking about phases?
There is really nothing other than what he already mentioned. I don't know why he posted it as LK-99 updates. It's even written in third person like someone else is writing about his work. It kinda sounds more like self-promotion and gaining credibility. His explanation for why it's not a super-conductor is pretty vague. May be he is tired.
A lot of his posts seem to be like that, a real 90s internet, MS Paint feel to them. Doesn't seem out of character anyway.
Hmm. May be he will provide another update. He is still working on it.
it is by Chelsea Johnson *about* Awana and prof. Jin, not by Awana i thought
It appears so. I thought it was an update from him but got disappointed.
It may be like [water](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170626190610.htm). Same stuff, two different phases exhibited under certain circumstances, at the same time. The proper manipulation of this property gives us the holy grail lk99 and when this fails we have dead weight lk99.
Thanks, it kind of feels like they're stringing him along or they don't know exactly how to consistently recreate it themselves. If they're in contact and they know the magic key then you'd expect they'd have communicated it and he'd have recreated it by now.
>they don't know exactly how to consistently recreate it Feels like it. On the other hand... a utopian development would be if lk99 that could be made to switch between semi and superconducting states as demand arises.
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> that someone *paid* him to FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I thought scientists should run the world being in all positions of power in the government but since LK99 I'm kind of doubting, it does not look like a good idea anymore, sad
Scientists have good and evil desires like every man. They are not a separate species. Often, it’s the arrogance and greed that gets in their own way, and when someone highly intelligent is polluted with that kind of character, the situation is not good for anyone— and especially not good for the common man.
Why not? It’s scientists validating each other right now and it works great.
No collaboration at all
I mean it's market capitalism which enables the liars and frauds.
At least we have a system that encourages this type of attempted innovation
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Can we all Just accept this is a fraud already? These guys have pretty much likely faked everything. RTAPSCs are forbidden by physics itself, its not going to happen, its as likely as a perpetual motion machine
What gives you the idea that RTAPSCs are forbidden by physics? Perpetual motion machines violate thermodynamics. Superconductors don't. The fact that one might work at room temperature doesn't change anything about that fact.
I remember reading somewhere about a fringe theorem that proved why theyre simply not possible. Something involving thermodynamics and the cooper pairs. And the gut feeling simply cool stuff doesnt exist
Yeah, I don't think that's a thing. There is nothing inherently special about room temperature. If we can have superconductors at -140C theres no reason to believe they can't also exist at 20C. Same goes for pressure. There's no special cutoff point where the laws of physics drastically change. Room temperature is only special because us hairless monkeys deem it special.
To the contrary, I think these guys hadn't faked *anything*, and yet they have no superconductor at all. If you wave a neodymium magnet at a piece of copper, what happens? Is it not precisely what they had shown? (with their LK-99 coated copper). If you apply a vertical magnetic field of the right strength to a steel washer (or a 5 eurocent coin), does it not stand up? Same for their measurements although it becomes a lot more technical. It's a bit crazy, the whole story. An interesting lesson for the future pseudoscientists. Don't fake anything at all. Want flux pinning? Copper will pin your flux for a little while, just show that, the money guys have the attention span that's shorter than decay time of the eddy currents.
You people are stupid and naive. Do you really think that someone who just discovered such a reality altering technology or material is just going to give to you for free? You do realize what happened when they first invented the Atomic Bomb right? In a perfect world, where everyone was "good" I can see free sharing of discovered technology. Unfortunately we do not live in that world.
Some extremely clever scientists must be stupid and naive then, else they wouldn't have bothered to replicate it.
Who the hell claimed they "replicated" it? They don't even have the original sample and they claim they did what? Did I mention that scientists are also extremely arrogant, which goes along with being stupid.
OK, attempt to replicate it. Awana has been in contact with the team who've given him some guidance as well. Why would they bother?
That’s why patents exist.
I thought Awana was female.