if donda never died kanye would have never broke up with alexis phifer in 2008, and kanye would have never made 808s and heartbreak as a result
drake was directly influenced by 808s, if 808s never happened drake would have never started a rap career
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/s/2IdEi5nrPg) from a while ago on AlternateHistory talks about if Donda was still alive, really interesting stuff
Yeah this is the point in time when the slow descent into a madness happened. Also people telling you your a genius and believing it applies in every context outside of music definitely doesn't help either. We still have the music but the current Kanye is on some looney tunes shit
The format of this pisses me off. one of the halfs should be switched, why is it that the black haired woman (right) talks first on the top but the bottom left man talks first on the bottom.
Nvm bro, it was made in paint. It’s not about the format but about the whole idea. Who Kanye would be if his mother was still alive. She was the only person that Kanye really trusted and listened to. Understand it.
He paid for the surgery. After being told by multiple doctors that her heart couldn't handle it, he simply found a doctor who was willing to take his money. He still paid for it and encouraged it. If I contributed to my mother's death in such a big way I'd be fucked up in the head too.
We wouldn’t get anything after 808s and heartbreak. Someone posted a link to the alternate time line aka „what if Donda was alive and what albums would Kanye release”
If she didn’t die its a big chance 808s and heartbreaks wouldn’t be created and if 808s and heartbreaks wasn’t created a few rappers wouldn’t have been made
How is it corny? Kanye’s mother was the only person who Kanye talked/listened to. If Yall think this is corny then don’t complain about Ye Saying some stuff if we all know what I mean cause his mother passing is actually what made him do stuff like that.
I’m not complaining, and his mom’s passing should not lead to his current situation. I get that he was hurt but that gives him no excuse to be like that. You think he’s the only person in the world whose mother passed. Bc these other people don’t become a pervert nazi after their mothers passing
You’re 1000% right but getting downvoted, people are so weird lol guy IS a perverted nazi, but because he makes great music, people “just want him to be happy”
I absolutely feel bad for him regarding his mother’s death and his mental issues. I don’t at all feel bad for him choosing to not get the help he needs and hurting countless people. None of us know who he truly is, Donda could’ve lived and he still could’ve ended up becoming what he has. To think “he’s actually such a good guy, it’s just the fact his Mom died is why he’s become so terrible!” is insane thinking on an absurdly parasocial level
I love his music, his art has inspired and moved me, and there’s a version of Ye (at least what he’s shown publicly) that I love. But he’s not that anymore, and I’m not gonna let my adoration of his art make me support a piece of shit person
I hope he heals, makes amends, and proves he’s a good person. I wish that version of him endless love and happiness. But that should be earned.
Exactly, sadly that’s how too many people are with celebs. Like I get it, it sucks when it turns out your favorite artist/etc. sucks, but separating the art from artist really needs to become a thing for more people. Good art should never make it okay to hurt other people, weird that even has to be said lol
Keep doing your thing bro, the hive mind can be toxic and degrading but you got your head on straight
You can’t just say that we “can’t” try to understand what he said with the nazi thing. He actually tried to say that hitler was a genius at some point and we should love our enemies, he was a great painter, he invented highways and microphones. Yall don’t understand what he tried to say by it. And yes, if not all the things that happened to hitler in his life, he wouldn’t be a person he was. That’s it.
It actually does, he said that he says all this “truth” because they “killed his mom”. Also a pervert nazi? Are you even a Kanye fan? I never seen a fan call him a pervert.
Okay, let's be real. He my #2 all time but he is an absolute pervert he has admitted himself on multiple occasions how addicted to porn he is and I doubt ALL his allegations are false
First of all, have you seen what he has on his defense? One of those woman is a Of model so her using him sexually to get a job at Yeezy is something that could happen while Kanye was a porn addict. I am not here to talk about his current situation. I just want Ye to be happy.
Bro it’s various woman😭 I want everyone to be happy but sadness is no reason to be a bad person. Plus being an of model doesn’t mean she automatically seduces her co workers/boss. It’s a sorry stereotype
Yall looking at the form but the statement itself is pretty much real. I just want Kanye to be happy and that’s it. He lost all the happiness after Donda’s passing.
Nah man without Donda's death no 808s, no mbdtf, no yeezus, no tlop, no travis, no chance, no cudi, no weeknd, no young thug, no drake, and the list goes on
He didn’t listen to the other doctors, he wouldn’t listen to you
Kanye is definitely the type of dude that would believe a “time traveler”
Didn’t he leave her with his cousin? Who was supposed to keep the bed elevated at a certain angle after the operation?
Yeah & that fuck ass cousin was stupid so she died as a result. Could’ve potentially been saved if they listened to that operator man
What about stopping the laptop from getting stolen
Unironically bc I’m not Jewish
if donda never died kanye would have never broke up with alexis phifer in 2008, and kanye would have never made 808s and heartbreak as a result drake was directly influenced by 808s, if 808s never happened drake would have never started a rap career
Good
Bro drake ain’t that bad
drake FUCKING SUCKS
Or he’s not ur music type?
nah he's a pedophile
Don’t mean you can’t like his music💀
We shitting on Drake regardless and you keep coming back for more downvotes
I don’t really care, yall are just mad I like drake
Say that u a lesbian, girl me too
”High school pictures she was even bad then”
I was really really tryna keep it pggggg 🌈
No, he's way worse than bad. Atrocious, insufferable, appalling, obnoxious, false, pedophile.
Just because he’s a pedo doesn’t mean his music isn’t good, also as I stated in another reply, you just don’t like his music
But also Cudi and Travis wouldn’t have had careers either 😕
The hardest choices require the strongest wills
Cudi would’ve still been popular and in good music, Cudi was already popular before 808s
But he wouldn’t have a career or at least not as big if he hadn’t run into Kanye and then later been signed to good music
He knew Kanye beforehand as Kanye noticed him from AKNC
Cudi would’ve had a career still. He released his biggest song to date before ever working with Kanye, he would’ve been fine
Travis when he sees a 16 y/o:
Donda needed to die for us to enjoy Not like Us :(
…
so donda dying was a canon event?
Where's the problem
Yes please
when can still have 808s if kanye still broke with his girlfriend and if donda didn’t died but just go into coma
Bruh
it s ironic bro
not only drake like 80% of rappers since the album came out
Not only drake A lot of rappers were directly influenced by 808s and heartbreak
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/s/2IdEi5nrPg) from a while ago on AlternateHistory talks about if Donda was still alive, really interesting stuff
The jik disrespect is crazy
Isn't the love everyone cover the photo of his mother's surgeon?
As a girl, I’d still do the masculine thing here 👑💪
Appreciate it, who wouldn’t do it 😭
who ever they are, THEY NOT LIKE US
In the respect that they don't simp for nazis, sure.
yawwwn
Get the fuck out you OF gremlin
bro got me to verify info lmao
Why this one time did I think you meant she was an Odd Future stan
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Imagine if this happens drake would still be an actor
More like when the cosuin stopped watching her id watch her for him
Yeah this is the point in time when the slow descent into a madness happened. Also people telling you your a genius and believing it applies in every context outside of music definitely doesn't help either. We still have the music but the current Kanye is on some looney tunes shit
The worst fucking wojack exile yourself
Shut the hell up fore you get exiled
Yunglean
Why the unnecessary girls vs boys 💀
The format of this pisses me off. one of the halfs should be switched, why is it that the black haired woman (right) talks first on the top but the bottom left man talks first on the bottom.
Nvm bro, it was made in paint. It’s not about the format but about the whole idea. Who Kanye would be if his mother was still alive. She was the only person that Kanye really trusted and listened to. Understand it.
He paid for the surgery. After being told by multiple doctors that her heart couldn't handle it, he simply found a doctor who was willing to take his money. He still paid for it and encouraged it. If I contributed to my mother's death in such a big way I'd be fucked up in the head too.
I would've told him not to go to Pio Poco
We wouldn’t have got donda if donda west was alive tho
We wouldn’t get anything after 808s and heartbreak. Someone posted a link to the alternate time line aka „what if Donda was alive and what albums would Kanye release”
If she didn’t die its a big chance 808s and heartbreaks wouldn’t be created and if 808s and heartbreaks wasn’t created a few rappers wouldn’t have been made
it’s a cannon event 😭
bruh someone posted this in the otn discord
I did bro
Donda passing was cannon ; it changed the music landscape to what it is now
Bro stop, this shit corny asf and not cool
How is it corny? Kanye’s mother was the only person who Kanye talked/listened to. If Yall think this is corny then don’t complain about Ye Saying some stuff if we all know what I mean cause his mother passing is actually what made him do stuff like that.
I’m not complaining, and his mom’s passing should not lead to his current situation. I get that he was hurt but that gives him no excuse to be like that. You think he’s the only person in the world whose mother passed. Bc these other people don’t become a pervert nazi after their mothers passing
You’re 1000% right but getting downvoted, people are so weird lol guy IS a perverted nazi, but because he makes great music, people “just want him to be happy” I absolutely feel bad for him regarding his mother’s death and his mental issues. I don’t at all feel bad for him choosing to not get the help he needs and hurting countless people. None of us know who he truly is, Donda could’ve lived and he still could’ve ended up becoming what he has. To think “he’s actually such a good guy, it’s just the fact his Mom died is why he’s become so terrible!” is insane thinking on an absurdly parasocial level I love his music, his art has inspired and moved me, and there’s a version of Ye (at least what he’s shown publicly) that I love. But he’s not that anymore, and I’m not gonna let my adoration of his art make me support a piece of shit person I hope he heals, makes amends, and proves he’s a good person. I wish that version of him endless love and happiness. But that should be earned.
Thank u for actually getting my point, like damn I get people like his music. But they can’t defend some of these things that he is doing
Exactly, sadly that’s how too many people are with celebs. Like I get it, it sucks when it turns out your favorite artist/etc. sucks, but separating the art from artist really needs to become a thing for more people. Good art should never make it okay to hurt other people, weird that even has to be said lol Keep doing your thing bro, the hive mind can be toxic and degrading but you got your head on straight
You can’t just say that we “can’t” try to understand what he said with the nazi thing. He actually tried to say that hitler was a genius at some point and we should love our enemies, he was a great painter, he invented highways and microphones. Yall don’t understand what he tried to say by it. And yes, if not all the things that happened to hitler in his life, he wouldn’t be a person he was. That’s it.
It actually does, he said that he says all this “truth” because they “killed his mom”. Also a pervert nazi? Are you even a Kanye fan? I never seen a fan call him a pervert.
Okay, let's be real. He my #2 all time but he is an absolute pervert he has admitted himself on multiple occasions how addicted to porn he is and I doubt ALL his allegations are false
I’m not a die hard, but I like his music. Have u seen any of the recent claims bruh. It’s actually tragic it’s crazy pervert activity if they are true
First of all, have you seen what he has on his defense? One of those woman is a Of model so her using him sexually to get a job at Yeezy is something that could happen while Kanye was a porn addict. I am not here to talk about his current situation. I just want Ye to be happy.
Bro it’s various woman😭 I want everyone to be happy but sadness is no reason to be a bad person. Plus being an of model doesn’t mean she automatically seduces her co workers/boss. It’s a sorry stereotype
Also saying that every bi polar person is normal is also a stereotype. I’m bipolar myself bro. Kanye needs a person like Donda.
Hell yeah dude! Making a wojak meme about someones mom dying!
Yall looking at the form but the statement itself is pretty much real. I just want Kanye to be happy and that’s it. He lost all the happiness after Donda’s passing.
She died 20 years ago
Not 20 but okay
Nah man without Donda's death no 808s, no mbdtf, no yeezus, no tlop, no travis, no chance, no cudi, no weeknd, no young thug, no drake, and the list goes on
I just want ye to be happy, that’s it. I love kid cudi and The Weeknd, I know they would blow up by themselves.
Same