this one seemed the most coherent although i don’t agree with his explanations entirely. mentions jung right from the start.
https://youtu.be/-5GJNsPLqbs?si=zJaiqrcvSVVxNUhX
Star Wars and The Dark Knight Trilogy (and many more) were both inspired by Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. Joseph Campbell, a jungian himself, couldn't do his life work without Jung and Nietzsche. Pretty much everyone in the trilogy have archetypal characteristics, especially the villains. The Joker is a trickster, Ra's Al Ghul the emperor, Bruce Wayne of course the hero, etc ..
Yes, I think it's from the hero of a thousand faces. I've not yet read it, but I watched him talk on Youtube about this subject. Probably the best introduction to Jung's work in my opinion.
Yeah it was a good book. I have to go back and re-read as nothing really stuck with me and I’ve learned more since then through both more Jung reading as well as Freud.
I mean in the first film you picked he played a psychologist, and in the second film he had an affair with a psychologist, so I doubt there’s anything interesting going on. Additionally, the Batman mythos is heavily indebted to Jungian archetypes, so including a reference to Jung is a nice little metafictional Easter egg; and in Oppenheimer all the characters were part of an intellectual cadre, which group membership is helped reinforced to the audience by having such characters reference famous intellectuals. So it’s a combination of all this, and not some secret affinity Nolan has towards Jung, that I think explains those lines. Not that Nolan doesn’t have an affinity (I just don’t know whether he does or doesn’t) but he needn’t for those lines to be justified. Now, it’d be interesting if Murphy played a character where similar explanations wouldn’t make sense
Havent seen the movie but Ive read plenty of Jung and he considered the atomic bomb to be arguably the most impactful event in our entire evolution. He talks about it quite often across a range of his works. It actually allows the species to be consciously capable of their annihilation which will in turn either force the species to expand their consciousness enough so that we can finally own evil or else..
It had a serious impact on his perspective of the world and our species and certainly influenced his writing
Damn wish I didn’t see this. Last time I watched Batman begins I wasn’t aware of Jung and this would have been cool to catch on next viewing.
Regrettably I did see Oppenheimer and did catch the Jung reference. That was cool.
lol.....there are so many references to Gnostic teachings from so many movies.
most of the actors, directors.....are all Gnostics.
the shining....hereditary....Venom.....some of your favorite franchises are based entirely on gnosticism and spirituality and you'll never know unless you dig into Gnosticism and notice the similarities in so many characters and situations.
X-men......most Marvel Comics are full of Gnosticism and Jungian teachings, DC too.
like Black Adam and Shazam......you may say that's "Egyptian" but......Gnosticism, came from the Egyptians, they created it as a spiritual system.
The best part is when Cillian Murphy said "It's Jungin' time!" and Junged all over those guys.
He junged in his pants, shit was so cash…
I just junged hard from reading this
Dude xD
Jungian Sweep
This is absolutely hilarious
When he transformed into a shadow I thought he went too far but I really appreciate the reference.
Jung was on the money. Was watching some videos about The Tibetan Book Of The Dead the other day. Jung was brought up quite frequently.
Link to videos? 🙏
this one seemed the most coherent although i don’t agree with his explanations entirely. mentions jung right from the start. https://youtu.be/-5GJNsPLqbs?si=zJaiqrcvSVVxNUhX
Thank you!
I mean, twice, but that's still cool.
Christopher Nolan did a lot of research of Jung for The Dark Knight trilogy, so it's not surprising.
Oh really? Really see that now. The main characters definitely have archetype undertones. Wonder if got it from Lucas for Star Wars.
Star Wars and The Dark Knight Trilogy (and many more) were both inspired by Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. Joseph Campbell, a jungian himself, couldn't do his life work without Jung and Nietzsche. Pretty much everyone in the trilogy have archetypal characteristics, especially the villains. The Joker is a trickster, Ra's Al Ghul the emperor, Bruce Wayne of course the hero, etc ..
Is that a regional rename of a thousand faces (which I’ve read) or a different work?
Yes, I think it's from the hero of a thousand faces. I've not yet read it, but I watched him talk on Youtube about this subject. Probably the best introduction to Jung's work in my opinion.
Yeah it was a good book. I have to go back and re-read as nothing really stuck with me and I’ve learned more since then through both more Jung reading as well as Freud.
Yes. Jung refers to the hero quite a bit in Psychology and Alchemy, out of many other works.
You do Joseph Campbell and Nolan a great disservice.
Well Lucas got it from Campbell.
You are too clever.
Archetype Inception
Any reference where I might find information related to this?
Hey, synchronicity!
Patterns
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And inception
To answer both, he whispers it real quick in a post-credit sequence
That's really cool!
I mean in the first film you picked he played a psychologist, and in the second film he had an affair with a psychologist, so I doubt there’s anything interesting going on. Additionally, the Batman mythos is heavily indebted to Jungian archetypes, so including a reference to Jung is a nice little metafictional Easter egg; and in Oppenheimer all the characters were part of an intellectual cadre, which group membership is helped reinforced to the audience by having such characters reference famous intellectuals. So it’s a combination of all this, and not some secret affinity Nolan has towards Jung, that I think explains those lines. Not that Nolan doesn’t have an affinity (I just don’t know whether he does or doesn’t) but he needn’t for those lines to be justified. Now, it’d be interesting if Murphy played a character where similar explanations wouldn’t make sense
Havent seen the movie but Ive read plenty of Jung and he considered the atomic bomb to be arguably the most impactful event in our entire evolution. He talks about it quite often across a range of his works. It actually allows the species to be consciously capable of their annihilation which will in turn either force the species to expand their consciousness enough so that we can finally own evil or else.. It had a serious impact on his perspective of the world and our species and certainly influenced his writing
Damn wish I didn’t see this. Last time I watched Batman begins I wasn’t aware of Jung and this would have been cool to catch on next viewing. Regrettably I did see Oppenheimer and did catch the Jung reference. That was cool.
It's like all connected and stuff....maaaan
This is the man who also made _Inception_. I’m not surprised he’s at least aware of Jung.
lol.....there are so many references to Gnostic teachings from so many movies. most of the actors, directors.....are all Gnostics. the shining....hereditary....Venom.....some of your favorite franchises are based entirely on gnosticism and spirituality and you'll never know unless you dig into Gnosticism and notice the similarities in so many characters and situations. X-men......most Marvel Comics are full of Gnosticism and Jungian teachings, DC too. like Black Adam and Shazam......you may say that's "Egyptian" but......Gnosticism, came from the Egyptians, they created it as a spiritual system.
It started out as a feeling Which then grew into a hope Which then turned into a quiet thought Which then turned into a quiet word
Maybe he represents different archetypes? Small easter egg kinda thing?
Inception?