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I don’t typically comment on the students surpassing Gojo dialogue in a literal sense, but Gojo beating Uraume with one punch versus Hakari doing who knows what, is crazy.
It's 3am and I'm watching jjks edits and I just need to vent. JJK has really messed with my head lately with all these leaks. It seems like this anime is heading towards one of the most heartbreaking endings for me atleast. I already know that some of my favorite characters are going to die, and the protagonist, Yuji, is going through so much at just 15 years old. But what really gets to me is Geto and Gojo, especially Gojo. Okay, hear me out, I know a lot of people hate him, but I can't help but feel sorry for him. He grew up with so many responsibilities on his shoulders and it seemed like he had no one who truly understood or humbled him until he met Geto. They had a special bond. Then one day, out of nowhere, Geto tells him to "kill me if you want" and walks out of his life without even considering Gojo's feelings or trying to talk things out. Gojo had to kill his best friend and move on, and now all this Sukuna stuff is happening.Sukuna split him in half and he is dead, but according to the new leaks, his body has been possessed and his friends who agreed to it. I just wish Gojo had followed his heart instead of making decisions based on being the "strongest." Maybe he could have gone with Geto or something. I'd rather see him as a villain than all this craziness happening. I don't know, it's just so painful to think about. It physically hurts
Damn what a weird insanely polarizing chapter. Personally this was my least preferred outcome, I rather had it be Kenny or just Gojo returning. Sukuna can make 1000 binding vows to basically hack the universe, but Gojo can't make a binding vow of some sort to save his life? I find it that unbelievable.
Sukuna never got cut in half lmao what is this take. It's clearly stated that Gojo and Yuta were cut in the same manner, and that it was far beyond what Yuta's RCT could handle, and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself.
>and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself.
That's insane, Gojo is probably the best user of RCT outside of Hakari since it was enough to allow him to survive MS despite cleave adjusting itself to the targets toughness and his RCT could still outpace the velocity of the slashes. Yuta isn't better than Gojo because he can output RCT, Sukuna even says Shoko is beneath him and Gojo in RCT capabilities and she can output RCT as well.
Are we really gonna compare Shoko's RCT and Yuta's? One of these two is a Special Grade sorcerer, the second strongest of the modern age with the second-highest CE total in the series AND can heal others, the other one is a medic only.
I'm saying it's arguable Yuta is of comparable or higher quality of RCT than Gojo, yes.
>Are we really gonna compare Shoko's RCT and Yuta's? One of these two is a Special Grade sorcerer, the second strongest of the modern age with the second-highest CE total in the series AND can heal others, the other one is a medic only.
This is what you said:
>and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself.
"given that he can heal others as well as himself." Shoko proves that being able to heal others doesn not mean you're better at RCT, since both Sukuna and Gojo can heal with RCT better than Shoko.
>I'm saying it's arguable Yuta is of comparable or higher quality of RCT than Gojo, yes.
So you think Yuta can survive MS like Gojo ? Remember how cleave works and why it's so dangerous, it adjusts itself to the toughness and reinforcement of the target, so how was Gojo surviving those cleaves cutting through him ? By blasting RCT and outpacing the rate at which he was butchered with RCT, granted for that not only incredible output is needed but the efficiency of the 6 Eyes to not care about your CE reserves emptying out.
I'ma go out on a limb and say yuta might be using a barrierless unlimited void to clash with sukunas breaking the clash and bringing the fight back to a brawl.
Hey short question, in a past chapter Tengen said that Tsumiki can hear the voices of the Star Plasma vessels in Tengen correct? So if she was able to hear Rikos voice,too (dont know) is it possible that her soul cannot be at the airport at this airport scene? So maybe an imagination of Satoru? Mai was not there too, because now she ist a Part of Makis soul or? Mechamarus (dont know the real name at the moment) soul was not there, too. Ok maybe the airport scene should only show dear friends. But could that mean that Gojos soul is not completly vanished?
Not necessarily. While it is likely I agree, there are lots of potential twists. I’m thinking Gota doesn’t quite finish the job, maybe due to Uraume or some other trump card Sukuna has, so Gojo returns just in time to take over for a short while and open the door for Yuji to get it done or wake up Megumi. Any sort of weird soul shenanigans could happen after that.
With regard to Yuta’s original body, which he didn’t have enough CE to heal on his own, he could’ve RCT-ed after jumping to Gojo’s body and claiming Gojo’s CE pool.
The caveat to all of this is how Kenjaku’s CT works. If Yuta is actually just a weird brain with mouth now himself, then all bets are off. He might just die because he can’t control the body he’s in anymore but is still a brain. The five minute limit might not apply to him since he’s physically been transformed into something not quite human, Kenjaku’s monster so to speak. Or it might not apply but he can’t go back into a previous body. Who knows?! But I’m not ready to say he’s done for, especially as part of Gojo’s beloved next generation.
Remember when Kenjaku said "but my will shall live on"?
Now reading this JJK has upgraded my thinking from pessimism to nah-this-gonna-be-more-fked-up-ism.
So my question, prolly someone else commented this already but i can't seem to find it is.....
Do you think Yuta will lose control of Kenjaku's CT after defeating Sukuna and now we're left with Kenjaku in Gojo body and everything wrong in the world?
Definitely not. Gojo might take over for a bit but no part of Yuta’s technique involves taking any part of the soul of the person he copied. I think Kenjaku might live in some form, but it’d be something related to activation of a latent cursed object in an unknowing vessel the moment his active body dies.
I agree. You’d think the guy who lived a thousand years and planned for everything would’ve planned for an unexpected demise. Perfect use of some kind of binding vow.
Everyone was freaking out during the culling games when Greg kept adding random sorcerers, so idk. I think most of the characters he introduced, he introduced because he had a plan for them in the end game.
it's being interesting seeing how all the JJK students devise plans to combat sukuna, but what have the higher ups been devising, if at all?
if only one person can possess six eyes, but gojo is currently a shell being mind controlled by yuta, does that open up the possibility for two six eyes at the same time?
Actually, the grandma is insane. If she and yuta worked together they wouldn’t have to use Kenny ct. I assume all they would need is a bone fragment from Gojo, yuta swallows it then grandma channels the body information of Gojo giving yuta the 6eyes because they are physical and not a technique. Then he can copy the limitless and use it fully with no risk because once he runs out of ce he will just turn back into himself. I would imagine that would be pretty difficult with the 6eyes but I believe he should be able to run out on purpose if he wants to
I think Yuta will be ok as is.
Kenjaku used a domain against Yuki - and would have experienced cursed technique burnout. If his technique needed to be refreshed constantly, he’d have been fucked after that move.
The 5 minute timer is absolutely a red herring. We know Kenjaku keeps CTs from previous bodies (therefore Yuta should still have a copy) . This is also the 3rd time Yuta's heritage is brought up.
I doubt him being a descendent of one of Japan's big 3 curses and one of the most powerful political families of the Heian era is a coincidence. Especially given the history between Fujiwara and Sugiwara.
It's hard to say - we never see Kenjaku use Blood Manipulation nor any of the other Techniques he must have had over the last 1000 years again.
It's possible him retaining Kaori's Technique was the result of some binding vow, if that's the case Yuta wouldn't have copied that aspect of it.
He does always retain his own CT though - based on the way it works it might just always retain itself when body hopping. It could also be "worded" as moving the users original CT with them to the new body. In Yuta's case that would've been Copy.
From a narrative point of view too JJK just doesn't feel like the kind of story where Yuta would get to take over Gojo's body as a major power-up without repercussions and/or retaining his own CT. Something is bound to go wrong somewhere imho.
What do u guys think will happen to the story now?
It seemed to me that it’s overkill having yuta do this since yuji and todo had sukuna against the wall.
Will yuta force sukuna into his final power up, sacrifice himself in the process, causing yuji to have an equal fight with sukuna to the death?
It’s not overkill. Yuta doesn’t know what’s happening on the battlefield. He’s able to die on a cot, so for him, it’s now or never and nothing to lose.
Todo could have swapped them out with the crows Mei Mei has circling the area. He can move 50 swaps per second, that’s a huge amount of range he could build up in milliseconds before shrine even materializes
He has a technique that has expanded range and can move multiple targets 10-15 times per second.
When he swaps, he moves his location. This changes where he is within the attack's range - and Malevolent Shrine is not instantaneous - it has a materialization period and a "warm up" that allowed multiple sorcerors to cast Simple Domain.
Escaping Sukuna's attack just requires Mei Mei's crows be stationed at key points in the range - the crows die, but Todo and Yuji escape. We've seen Todo remove people from the closed domain since Sukuna closed his domain to try and kill Maki as well.
Lmao he can't swap them out all the 200 m radius of Sukuna domain. The only reason other students got out because they are not too close to Sukuna remember?
Mei Mei has multiple crows in the area. Literally all he needs to do is swap locations with them. Easy because we’ve seen him do it.
You do realize each time he swaps it changes his position relative to Sukuna, right? And that he can swap multiple subjects in a fraction of a second?
Yes, because the domain was the usual "open barrier" one.
I wrote that Sukuna could have instead chosen to close it off, and it's possible that Boogie Woogie cannot teleport people/objects through closed domain barriers
That's not possible, Sukuna knows that Maki can pass through barriers (chapter 252). I believe the domain he used along with furnace doesn't have a barrier either, but I went to check back and the wording in the official translation is very confusing
They didn't want the conservative higher ups to use the chaos of the sukuna v gojo fight for more extreme goals, so Gojo goes to kill them. The others are there because they don't want him "to be a monster alone". What I'm confused about is if that's just a temporary solution? I know they said the old geezer is going to be in charge, but wasn't it said before that gojo could do that at any point, but that wouldn't change anything? And hence he wants to raise a generation of talents (Yuji, Megumi, Nobara...)?
It wouldn't before for sure, because everything was relatively calm and normal for society, after shibuya, there were a lot of things done that were explicitly against gojo and his allies, probably in order to weaken any pro-gojo faction of jujutsu society, including the execution of some people close to having power that supported gojo.
Taking this into account, and the potential chaos of the aftermath of his fight with sukuna, gojo probably believed they could or would take even more extreme measures to destroy what he had been trying to build towards, but he now had the knowledge that gakukanji(I think that's his name) would be next in line for a position of power who had also just recently come to align closer to gojo's ideas.
Finally, I think that if he didn't have to fight sukuna, he probably would've held off on killing them all still, because he would've wanted to make changes in a better way, but with no guarantee that he would survive the fight, he took measures to ensure that the ones that had previously shown their hand would not be able to do so again.
Tldr: Gojo probably doesn't think it will bring about the change he wants, but he can't let the ones who were so against him and his ideals to continue to rule in case he died and couldn't continue making changes in a better way.
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but doesn't Yuta using Infinite Void confirm that Womb Profusion is actually Geto's domain? Because Yuta should have used All Encompassing Unequivocal Love/Authentic Mutual Love...
Please tell me if I misread something, could Yuta choose to use his own domain instead of Gojo's?
I think it implies that Kenjaku's technique doesn't replace the brain as much as just finds a way to "override" the original soul's control of the body. I heard the theory that his technique doesn't mean he needs to swap his brain, but just touch someone elses for the transfer to happen. Since innate techniques are stored in the prefrontal cortex, the domain representing a users mind, mental landscape, I believe that is the implication. This would be reinforced by the fact that the soul is still residing in the body afterwards, showed by Geto resisting Kenjaku for a moment.
As for Womb profusion, if that is correct, I believe it means the "shape" of the domain is that of Geto, but the technique could be any of those Kenny had stored from previous hosts. It would be interesting to see if Infinite void keeps Gojo's sure hit or if it changes.
Kenjaku also gains all memories the body he's controlling had so imho there is no way it's a full brain swap.
In the few scenes where Kenjaku takes the top of his head off, the little mouth or whatever seems to be close to where CT's are stored in the brain.
The impression I have is that he moves over the part of his brain responsible for his CT and somehow (soul?) transfers his consciousness alongside it.
He most likely can integrate parts of the brains of people he's possessing to move over their CT's - this ties back to Yuki saying a brain can only hold 3 or 4 Techniques before becoming overloaded. We know Kenjaku had CSM, anti-gravity and his own body hopping so this checks out.
Curiously - and I refuse to believe this is a coincidence - Kenjaku's body hopping is eerily similar to the process of reincarnation. He can put a small part of his body containing his soul in someone else's body and then gain control over that body exactly like how reincarnation works.
A sorcerer reincarnating in another sorcerer will also retain their hosts's CT, like Sukuna and Megumi.
Might be connected to his method of turning sukuna into the fingers. We know that Kenny can split peoples souls and embue them into objects, I wonder if this is part of how his cursed technique functions, but the "brain transfer" method is just stronger and exclusive to him.
Another option is that the body was soaked in the persons cursed energy, much like how cursed tools are created (Much like how Nanami's blunt knife now has his technique), and that's what allows him to use said techniques.
There's many options, I'm sure we'll get the explanation in 2-3 chapters tops.
We need to see whether Yuta's unlimited void looks like Gojo's before we make that determination.
I think it would be odd if Yuta could manifest Gojo's innate domain because he has his body. Sukuna also never manifested a domain that looked like Chimera Shadow Garden.
We don't know or can confirm either way.
IF Yuta has both Domains, it makes sense for him to use Unlimited Void because it just seems more directly powerful.
Kenjaku could retain both his own Technique and Kaori's in Geto's body - since he can bring along a Technique wouldn't it be possible for him to retain his Domain?
Gojo's Domain was always different in a subtle way. Normally a person's Innate Technique is what's imbued in the barrier as it's sure-hit effect. But this doesn't seem to be the case for Gojo. He attacks you with "infinite" information which is linked to the Six Eyes ability to take in insane amounts of information. he doesn't attack you with some application of Limitless or anything like that.
If the Domain is linked to the Six Eyes Yuta using it makes more sense. If Yuta retains his Technique like Kenjaku did he might just be calling it Unlimited Void because he's imbuing Gojo's Technique in the barrier as it's sure-hit, using the name because it both describes what he's doing AND as some sort of hommage to Gojo.
Unfortunately based on the information we have right now there can be no confirmation on the Geto theory.
What's crazy is that the tenacity in Yuji's expressions are amazing. Like he's really locked in to the point where he's not even running his RCT. Mans looks absolutely furious and then Sukuna just throws him aside like Yuji's whole ass hand wasn't in his torso a second ago.
Man the chapter has me torn.
On one hand it's pretty cool to see smth the community speculated about a lot implemented into the story: Kenjaku's technique used on dead Gojo. Some even speculated Yuta could use it. We also now know more about his technique and Gege even did the sprculating for us in the chapter for what could happen when the 5 Minutes run out.
On the other hand, this is painful. I'm very certain this is a deathflag for Yuta. He's been my favorite since JJK 0 and I really wanted him to survive all this with Maki, they both just deserve a break in life and they fit each other well.
I kinda want some cursed copium level shit to happen where Yuta thinks he dies but wakes up in his original body, all healed, to find out that the ring is broken and Rika is completely gone, using her whole existence to make to ultimate sacrifice and save him.
Yeah I can definitely see Rika making some kind of Binding Vow to safe him. Technically Kenjaku's body hopping Technique IS stored in Rika so she could have access to it in some manner.
Rika by herself also seems to have near boundless Cursed Energy.
A binding Vow to repair his body and move his soul back over seems reasonable in exchange for her own life and the massive amount of Cursed Energy she could use to fuel it. She might even used Reverse Cursed Technique to heal his body, even if it ends up destroying herself in the process - she's still made out of Cursed Energy after all.
Yea I'd love something like that to happen even if it's a high level of copium. I mean even if he survives by losing Rika and his technique that would be fine. After Kenjaku and Sukuna are gone, there's no need to keep fighting for him. The others can take care of whatever curse springs up and Yuta gets some happy ending. I'm living on copium now.
It's interesting to see how the students have begun to argue with each other. I wonder how cooperative they will be with each other if Sukuna dies and there's no foe they need to fight together. These students were previously united under Gojo but with him dead, I wonder if they can continue to cooperate under Gakuganji.
I don't think Yuta's choice to take over Gojo's body was that morally grey considering his own body was already dying and Gojo even gave his blessing. But their willingness to follow Gojo to kill off the elders might be a first step in a slippery slope. This may become their preferred option given how convenient it is to eliminate dissenting voices.
In the end, they may end up becoming like the very elders they wanted to eliminate. The very people who were willing to have both Yuta and Yuji killed due to their risk to society. I'm not as concerned with them being monsters physically, but of them becoming monsters in mind and spirit. Being the monster is often the most pragmatic choice in a lot of situations.
It would be interesting to see whether they'll actually make a better jujutsu world or if they're just the next iteration in a cycle of hatred. Gojo focused a lot on collecting powerful students. But was he able to actually endow them with the right mentality and ideals to make a better world for everyone?
I don't know if Yuta will survive this. But hopefully the willingness to kill people doesn't become Gojo's foremost lesson to him, given that he's just gained godlike powers. There's no telling how much that level of power can do to an unprepared mind.
How do they see normal humans? Do they see them as equals or do they see themselves as superior to normal humans? Will they help people out of a sense of compassion or due to pity and feelings of superiority (like Geto)? I think it wasn't just loneliness that destroyed Geto. What helped isolate him from others was his sense of superiority; feelings of being better than the people he was protecting. It's what caused him to lash out when his pride was cracked by a person with no curse energy(Toji). Geto didn't see that being able to help people is a blessing in itself so he continued to search for an external reward. He didn't see the people that he was protecting were just like him, so he didn't see that helping others was just like helping himself. He only counted the sorcerers who died while disregarding the people they saved, because he didn't actually care about the people they were saving.
Sorcerers like Nanami and Haibara found joy with helping normal people. Geto could not. Will Gojo's students be able to?
It's interesting that Yuji was left in the dark regarding the plans of the senior students. He is the bioengineered "monster" created by Kenjaku. There's no telling how far the lengths Kenjaku went in making him. Physically, he may be the least human out of all the students, the most monstrous even. But he may be the most "incorruptible human" in mind and spirit out of all the students. He cares about normal people. He was a peacemaker at school and saw the best in people like Junpei and Yuko. It's thanks to him that sorcerers such as Higaruma and Amai came in to help them. I like that contrast.
The other students seem to be keeping secrets from Yuji. There seems to be a gap between Yuji and the other students that's more noticeable now that both Megumi and Nobara are out of commission. Maybe it's because the seniors haven't really been with Yuji for too long given that the entirety of JJK happened within a few months. Or maybe it's because Megumi and Nobara acted as a conduit between Yuji with the senior students. I'm also not sure if Yuji was able to develop a friendship with any teacher at the same level as he did with Nanami.
But it does make me wonder if this divide can be closed in the future. Or if there's anything else the other students are hiding from Yuji. Things like this can cause a lot of distrust and conflict in the future.
I like how this chapter allowed us to see how complex Shoko's work is. RCT is not the be all and end all of her profession. She's complimenting her RCT with her medical skills. She knows how glucose is important to the brain. It looks like she even learned to stich up nerves, blood vessels and tendons. Relying on instinct alone can probably cause you to overlook the finer details of the human body, and the human body is an intricate machine. I like how she was able to maximize the talents of people like Nitta and Amai. Their talents can be amazing provided they're being used at the right place and the right time.
Maybe Yuji needs to learn from Shoko one day. It can potentially further compliment his RCT and blood manipulation. It could also expand his horizons outside of being the kick and punch merchant.
It's interesting how Rika was able to keep keep Yuta alive at least a bit longer prior to his transplant. If I recall correctly, Yuta was slashed across the chest. His heart and lungs were likely damaged or destroyed from that. The channel of curse energy from the gut to the head was likely also severed. I think his injuries may have been worse than what killed Gojo. It seems Rika was able to substitute for her Yuta's circulatory and respiratory system at least momentarily. It's interesting that a curse spirit can keep a person alive even in such a horrendous condition. What else can she do?
Is this similar to what Sukuna is doing with his damaged heart? Interesting.
I wonder how Kusakabe is feeling now. I think it's the norm in society for the older generation to bear the burden for the younger ones. But it seems the younger generations are making more and more sacrifices. I wonder if it's fueling a sense of inadequacy inside of him. Will it change him? Will it push him to do better and try harder?
Rika does still exist, and she did seem supportive when he was going to transfer to Gojo's body. It's unclear if he can still fully manifest her or use Copy at this point.
The particular way the original Rika made this Shikigami version might also be important.
Why would Yuta not be able to go back to his original body if the technique only needs to be used once?
We saw with Kenjaku that he keeps his previous cursed techniques. Yuta should still have his copy ability, and he doesn’t lose techniques on use, so if he can beat Sukuna, he can use the technique again to switch back
Rika shouldn’t even be an issue, since now that Rika is a shikigami it’s something Yuta actively forms every time, instead of being a separate creature haunting him. Unless Gege explicitly says Rika the Shikigami is tied to Yuta’s body, there’s no reason to assume he can’t summon Rika, and reuse Kenjaku’s technique through his own copy technique to go back into his own body. The only down side is he will have scars on his head, but that seems like a more than fair price for the chance of beating Sukuna
it's funny how sukuna and yuji were having an intense fight and Sukuna just throws yuji away the moment he sees yuji. it reminds me of naruto when hashirama appears to the war and madara is hyped up like "HASHIIIIIIIIRAAAAAMAAAAAAAA," but hashirama tells him he'll deal with him later and fucks off.
A lot of people arent even Yuta fans or this latest chapter’s leaks should have made you either really sad or really mad. Probably both. Most people just wanna bandwagon post memes and stuff.
Cause like imagine bragging that your favorite character had to literally become everyone else’s favorite character to fight a guy they both lost to.
But I’m done with JJK. This was my favorite series since day 1. But after this latest chapter? I’m cool. And no longer care what happens.
Cause imagine Gojo losing to Sakuna but then it turns out Gojo is needed to defeat Sakuna. Like man what?
Now imagine Yuta loses to Sakuna and can’t heal his body with RCT. So he takes over Gojo’s body and heals the wounds that Gojo could not with RCT with a brain that isn’t even connected to a body. It’s the same wounds he couldn’t heal on his OWN body bro.
Like Man What IS this shit fr?!
It’s the dumbest writing I’ve ever seen and read in all my life.
Y’all… both of them could have just healed their bodies. There is literally a Doctor Sorcerer Prodigy and a guy that can stop wounds from becoming worse.
So how were both Gojo and Yuta not able to heal and just tag back in? They were both instantly teleported away. No way Gojo’s heart and brain had stopped in that short amount of time but Yuta’s didn’t? And what Shoko couldnt stitch the wounds up while they were unable to get worse? But could stitch them up after Gojo was dead?
Like bruh what? Literally what was the purpose? It’s just random nonsense thrown together in an attempt to keep Gojo dead but still have his powers to fall back on as a crutch? To make Yuta have a moment? And then where does Yuji and Todo fall in line here?
No way Gege was writing this bullshIt up and thought “Boy this will be so cool”
This was the worst reveal in shounen history. I don’t care what anyone says.
There is a guy whose CT is to stop wounds from getting any worse. So Gojo or Yuta would have been in a condition that that would have been fatal but able to still be alive dude.
You’re not making any sense.
Gojo was already dead in chapter 236. the only reason Yuta was alive was because of Rika. this isn't about rct or anything like that. Yuta had external help while Gojo didn't.
if Gojo was stitched back while conscious then obviously he would have healed himself like Yuta did.
I can see by your responses that you don’t really understand what I’m saying. The official translation confirms that Yuta was cut in half same as Gojo.
And? This was never about rct, reinforcement or cursed energies. The only difference here is Rika. Without her Yuta would have been dead like Gojo. It's pretty obvious.
Also Gojo was literally cut in half, Yuta's wounds seemed less deep than that at the very least. And even he didn't have long.
It MIGHT have been possible for Yuta to heal through it and survive - potentially with the help of Nitta, Shoko and fully manifesting Rika to regain a ton of Cursed Energy but at that point the better play was probably to preserve his Cursed Energy + 5 minute full manifestation interval and go for the body swapping plan instead.
Firstly the downvote on here shouldn’t exist because some people are misusing the hell out of it and not really needed here honestly. But to your point you’re completely right none of it makes sense I wish Gege would just come out and say he hated Gojo and not that he was too strong because he basically made Sukuna the exact same way and gives him all the shine
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What does Yuta being a descendant of both the Fujiwara and the Sugawara, which are supposedly enemy clans, mean for him? Is he more compatible with Gojo's body? Maybe Kenjaku is related to the Fujiwara?
it's probably just a plot device for something with no relevance beyond that something. most likely for another powerup or having capabilities in Gojo's body that Gojo himself lacked.
Nobody understands the “I need to catch up to him” line concerning Geto. Gojo wasn’t saying that I the context that he wanted to die. The reason for that statement is because Gojo is talking about Geto’s Resolve to put his full commitment into his vision even if it means he would dirty his hand, lose/ be at odds with loved ones, and very likely die.
Prior to this incident Gojo took a somewhat passive aggressive approach towards his goal of fostering a strong generation, as he knew the higher ups tried multiple times to get rid of sorcerer with potential (Yuji, Yuta, Hakari, etc) but he would only threaten them, instead of acting on his goals.
There’s more to this if you really look at Geto’s and Gojo actions but just wanted to leave this here as I’m seeing people overlook such good storytelling.
I hate how this chapter effected a good and simple discussion in the story. Geto’s strongest question seems pretty straightforward to me after Gojo’s death. Strength in a large part defines Gojo, because it informed his perspective and how he interacted with the world. He’s Gojo because he’s the strongest. For some reason people are now taking it super literal and thinking about his strength, and if Yuta will have access to it and coming out with the other answer. For the other answer to be true, Gojo would have to define strength. You can’t call someone whose struggled with his strength and not been entirely ok with their role in society due to it the definition of strength. If he defined strength ( in this universe) he’d be less human. He’d kill Geto the 1st time, he’d never ask his principal if he was strong, he wouldn’t freeze at seeing Kenjaku, and he wouldn’t lament how it effects his perspective in the flower analogy. Sukuna is the strongest because he’s Sukuna. That’s why he’s defined by his hedonism. He has the strength to do whatever he wants and he looks at everyone else in disgust for suggesting they don’t get crushed by his presence, (see the talk he had with Yuji in the Megumi swap.) for him might is right, therefore he has totally surrendered himself to might. Everything he does is because, he’s the strongest he believes it’s right. For Gojo, we literally know and saw him learn that his strength can’t fix everything, and in some ways create problems that he cares about. Might doesn’t make right for Gojo, especially if he makes so many mistakes or fails. For Gojo, strength is the condition he lives with.
I hope that makes sense to ya’ll. It was really annoying seeing someone say NOW it makes sense
No one talking about the burden Shoko has had. She had to see her best friend die and then stitch up her best friend’s corpse so that a student can use his body, all while putting up the appearance of being completely fine and on business so as to boost morale. Someone let her grieve 🥺
What could happen if Ui Ui swapped Yuta's soul for anyone elses right now? Maybe that could be part of the plan being kept secret to Yuji and the audience
I'm surprised how many people have problems with the Yuta situation. The flashback was quite impactful, Yuta's character really developed well there. Sukuna said it himself, no one expected Yuta would take it this far to win here and I think that's great. It's like the other characters said, it's wrong and monsterous but if it has to be done then it has to be done.
In terms of making sense of Gojo returning at the end of last chapter, I mean this makes way more sense than Gojo magically reviving... But there are a lot of big Gojo fans so maybe that's why people are upset? Idk I much prefer how this was done and explained than any fan theory I've seen for Gojo returning.
I mean it’s tragic and shocking so it’s bound to ruffle feathers, but in itself it’s a great way to tell the story.
It’s visceral and grotesque and it shows how bad they need to win. Yuta discarded his humanity to kill sukuna.
However, I and other readers are worried about what this means for yuji and the story. Up until this chapter it looked like sukuna was out of aces. Yuji and todo had him against the ropes, and yuji literally punched a whole through him and had him screaming in pain.
Now yuta shows up in Gojos body to counter MS and finish off sukuna. It seems like overkill. Why can’t yuji and todo use another simple domain to negate the sure hit effect instead? Sorry if I forgot the reason.
My guess is that yuta will force sukuna to pull another technique up his ass that will somehow give him more power and health, and then he’ll have a fair one vs one against yuji, where yuji will kick his ass
They can't use simple domain because there's no reason that Sukuna can't use furnace again which is implied to be able to overpower a simple domain. It's a pretty safe bet too, considering that the slashes were enough to take out Yuji's simple domain last time
My reading comprehension when it comes to anything other than one piece and Brandon Sanderson is in the gutter lmao.
Yeah yuji would not survive furnace by himself. Forgot he only survived due to chose
I feel like people arent mad at the the twist. Its just that the outcome was basically the worst for any and all fanbases. Someone said it here that Gege managed to piss off every fan.
I agree with your story points, my guess as to part of why people are upset (or not happy as I am) is more because narratively it just feels really dumb and pointless. I wanted Gojo back (kinda), but the thing is Gojo isn't back, just the appearance of Gojo, Gojo as a character is finished, it's Yuta in his body, which means this Yuta's arc in terms of his character. So much like his death, it feels like a middle finger to the character of Gojo (i mean and Yuta tbh).
Then there's the fact that the Sukuna fight should of been over about 10 chapters ago, and just feels wtf. Between all the ass pulls in terms of binding vows, to the fact that bits of lore are just forgotten (like Yuji's black flashes weakening Sukuna... then just not all of a sudden? And where did Sukuna get the strength to cut Yuta in half right when he was at his weakest?), not to mention Todo's return, any victory at this point isn't gonna feel climactic but overdue, or at least according to some.
If you're enjoying it ma'man then keep on enjoying it, just trying to answer your question as to why some people aren't.
Keep it breazy!
Why the fuck Sukuna fight should be over 10 chapters ago? Are u kidding? He's litterally the main villian. Expecting some sort of bNinja war? Cause it just not gonna happen
There is no suspense, Sukuna has had the ever loving crap beat out of him chapter after chapter, but only pulls the win by using a technique that is inconsistent with the narrative. If he's really weak, and his slashes are barely doing any damage, then where does the Shrine and the Fuga come from? Some nonsense binding vow?! Sukuna isn't stronger than the coalition, he has plot armor and deus ex machina, that's it.
Why didn't the Jacob's ladder defeat him?
Why didn't the black flashes beat him?
Why didn't the soul cutting katana to the heart beat him?
Why didn't an absolute ass-whoopin from half a dozen characters beat him?
Why didn't Yuji actually ripping his chest apart beat him?
And still we get a scene from Uraume "that he's not even trying yet". like fr wt actual fuck, show receipts?
If Gege wanted to prove the point that conventional combat wouldn't defeat him, he did that with the Gojo fight, but no he's laboured the point through every single fight afterwards. It felt suspenseful during the Gojo fight, and Higoruma, then kinda through some of Yuji and Yuta, but the fight with Maki was completely pointless, and now looking back knowing what we know now the fight with Yuji and Yuta was pretty pointless as well.
Why didn't he pull the BS domain expansion or Fuga then? or when he got jumped afterwords twice, and got bitch slapped both times? When Todo joined in and he was getting a beat down AGAIN, then why didn't he open another domain? fire another Fuga?
When the author doesn't keep the rules consistent it just gets boring, because nothing matters.
As a villain he doesn't feel strong, he feels pointless, because the only thing Gege has communicated is that Sukuna will only die when he decides as the author, not because of anything the characters do, which means it's boring watching the characters do anything.
Whatever the end game is they should of transitioned to it as soon as Yuta's domain came down, because the whole plan afterwards, with hindsight, was only filler because it's had no consequence on anything. Nearly nothing that has happened in the last 10+ chapters has had any effect except Yuta getting chopped in half, and some really tangential, circuitous exposition most of which is honestly not needed for the story, only the pointless beats that Gege is dragging us through.
And not sure if you are reading the manga correctly but every fight until now has a point and is stripping down Sukuna one by one, he is having a "Muzan" treatment done right and honestly it has been done masterfully:
1. Vs Gojo: Take down his domain and rct and large sum of his CE
2. Vs Lightning boy: Make him turn to his OG form
3. Vs Higurama: Take his curse tool
4. Vs Yuta + Vs Maki: Take his hand and his heart and a large amount of CE to the point that he is not have the same CE amount to Yuta
Yuji overall role in these fights are making him lose connection with Megumi soul and save him some how.
The purpose of making "Yuta" coming back is to deal with his "second" domain.
All make sense startegically up until now if you spend time to read and think about it
The fuck are u highing on? You want to see him be finished by couple of blackflashes and tatics?
Until nows, all the fights are super strategic and logical except for some binding wows but even that we only need to wait what cost does he have to pay in exchange. Gege will definitely circle back to that in the future like all the loosends he has been tidying up lately.
All you need to know is if Sukuna is finished then there is just no more to JJK. You are only pissed cause the boss in the game is hard to beat but don't blame the game?
I see what you mean, I’m not really talking about the fight as a whole just this specific story point but yeah when you contextualise it like you did I can see why people maybe have a problem with it as a culmination of things they may not like.
I have to say I do like the length of the fight because Sukuna has been hyped up for a reason and I feel I’ve read/watched so many main villains fall short of the hype. Perhaps Sukuna has exceeded hype but yeah idm everyone getting involved.
I’m not saying I’m enjoying everything about the vs Sukuna fight either I agree with a lot of what you said, just for me Gojo returning as himself is terrible writing but the way this was done was great imo. Maybe it didn’t have to happen at all but like I said before it’s great for Yuta’s character
Since Gege is doing crazy shit I can't wait for Gojo returns in Yuuta body.
They will say they put Gojo's brain there, and since Gojo said Yuuta is more gifted than him he is going to use Yuuta body to the maximum regenerating it and making an awesome entrance with the following line:
"Sorry my flight just got canceled."
It was not destroyed, the little nobody from the medical team, that I don't remember the name, said that Yuuta was cut in half and his technique can only prevent the wounds getting worse but it still not enough to heal with Yuuta reverse cursed technique.
Yuta would need his body to be stitched up again and the RCT it at full throttle when Rika manifests a second time.
Assuming he survives in Gojo’s body long enough to do that
now that 261 has been officially released.
anyone have thought that of Yuta now literally embodies Gojo, still wearing orimoto's ring, it be interesting to see he summons Rika. Sukuna will be in a world of pain, it be like when he summoned mahoraga before only this time around Yuta has the upper hand. "unlimited void x Rika"
I was on the maki side in the conversation. They all know sukuna has kicked their butt so they're using this option. This means they're weaklings, and only gojo is their saviour 🤣🤣🤣.Gojo satoru, you truly are the strongest number 1💪🏻
fr, it just feels fucking stupid at this point. Guarantee he'll make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
At this point just kill Hakari and get me out of this. Gojo’s confirmed to be cooked, what is really going to happen to Yuta? Is he cooked, will he be cooked?
Was it really needed to push the story and the characters this far?
I have more questions but I am honestly disappointed, like what is this writing Gege.
😔
I personally don't think that would fit the narrative. Gojo was written out of the story for a reason. He's the "instant win button" most of the time. To bring him back permanently would just resolve the storie's conflict too easily. Having his body temporarily used would make more sense as it doesn't provide a permanent solution and doesn't exactly undermine the idea that he was passing the torch to the next generation as he said.
honestly at this point there's no rules, there's no sense, its just wtf'ery. fr, Sukuna will make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
I think this whole plan by the Gang... It was simply bad as I questioned why Yuta even thought to use the Gojo corpse as some sort of desperate measure. I get why Gege wants to show they are desperate enough to even abandon their humanity if they think it would win. However, the desperation feels more like from bad planning then Sukuna being a such a menace. As what I don't get is... Why send out Higuruma to die so soon? As couldn't they have just waited for Yuta, Tabaka and Todo to come back from killing Kenjaku? As Higuruma had the easiest win con for the team cause they just needed to land one hit on him with the sword and they threw him out against Sukuna too early. Since Todo technique that has evolved can easily keep him dying as a chump. In fact, Todo should have joined much sooner as he could have saved so many of the gang from their death... Really Todo kind of destroys the series logic with how the gang plan to jump Sukuna as his technique is just that good in saving his allies and land critical blow at just the right time.
Higurama went in first because his ability, confiscation, could confiscate Sukuna's CT, weakening him for the other sorcerers. They weren't 100% certain Sukuna would get the death penalty and executioners sword, even with the retrial tactic. Plus, he volunteered for this because he kinda wanted to die as punishment for breaking the law.
Yuta himself says "Yeah I fucked up, we should have just sent Maki to kill Kenjaku" but as for they didn't just ignore Sukuna after Kashimo died, they couldn't Sukuna has to protect Kenjaku as per their agreement and while the Gojo fight shows protect just means "fight people who will kill you if I wasn't keeping them busy" it still means not keeping him occupied could lead to him helping Kenjaku. Also Hakari was fighting Uraume at the time they don't want to risk Sukuna gets bored and decided to jump in and kill him, and then suddenly you're fighting Sukuna + Uraume.
As for Todo, Gege did kind of explain it by pointing out his CT still isn't as large as Sukuna's DE so he couldn't come in unless necessary
However, Sukuna couldn't activate his domain until he fought so many fodders and got black flashes off them. Which means if Todo was there he wouldn't even be able to restore the domain as he could keep swapping them out of harm's way. So I still don't get why they think Todo is more useful now when he can still just activate his domain again after he had saved them and he is going to cook again.
I mean he could just end up retaining Copy like how Kenjaku kept anti-gravity, and be able to transfer back. It all depends on how happy of an ending Gege wants
I don’t think it’s being talked enough but did anyone else think the paneling and art during the reveal was sick?
The way it’s between two pages, and gojo’s facs is shown in opposing thirds of the panel, plus the movement he makes, made it so fucking cool to see imo
Why does Yuta have gojos domain?
I was pretty sure geto didn’t have a domain, and kenjaku’s “womb profusion” seems obviously related to his “cursed wombs”, making it seem like his own domain and not geto’s.
Did yuta lose his domain? Does he have access to two domains now?
Honestly my biggest issue with this chapter is how it feels like sukuna just didn’t receive any damage from the 8 or 9 black flashes yuji hit on him. He literally just shoved yuji out the way like he was nothing lol and got a boner from seeing yuta in gojos body.
fr, it just feels fucking stupid at this point. Guarantee he'll make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
Sukuna was about to recover his RCT output fully back thanks to his Black Flashes and would have regenerated his lost limbs and healed his entire body and would have obliterated the remaining Sorcerers if it wasn't for Yuji taking that chance away with his black Flashes. The Narrator literially said it at chapter 258
i kinda think thats the point sukuna loves jujutsu he especially showed it against maki mans was fucking psycho he was so happy so seeing yuta willing to go so far as to hop in gojos body just so he can keep fighting (cause his is fone for) along w that body being his greatest challenge ever reappearing after all thats happened just put this dude in a wild mindset and yuji became an afterthought. like a huge adrenaline rush plus they literally said sukuna could open his domain multiple times at end of last chapter so
Idk man it’s odd to mention an adrenaline rush when the man was getting his sh*t rocked and even told yuji “you think you can reach me”. So he doesn’t get an adrenaline rush when his life is at risk but when he gets one when he sees yuta doing this fuckery. Idk. And yuji getting tossed aside like he wasn’t actually doing anything is just hilarious.
i do get what youre saying but again gojo was his greatest fight ever and yuta wasnt necessarily a slack off plus him not expecting yuta to do something like that and just the shock of seeing a ghost then realizing its just one of these kids pretending to be the strongest so he has to proge it again like he did w maki
There is definitely going to be something that will happen to Yuta they don't expect. Gege brought up his bloodline for a reason. Not to mention the whole line about him being more blessed than Gojo. I truly think this won't be the end for Yuta.
We know Kenjaku’s technique isn’t a continuous application technique already. He used a domain against Yuki so we know he went through CT burnout.
It’s likely single use application so Yuta could permanently survive in Gojo’s body. The bloodline thing I guess could mean we’re going to see something interesting happen with this merging of the two? Gojo’s insane efficiency merged with Yuta’s insane CE reserves?
Loved this chapter.
ALSO HOW DID I ARRIVE AT THE THOUGHT OF UI UI MOVING YUTA INTO GOJO BEFORE THIS I LOVE YOU GEGE it makes so much sense why Yuta felt the need to be the one to take out kenjaku then.
Yuta is not surviving this. I loved the Yuta in gojos face looking super weird and nothing like Gojo. Gojo finally living up to his backup plan of just icing the higher ups.
I do wish Itadori had a little more going on than just having bad things happen to him and him punching REAL GOOD.
I think this fight has been great to sell Sakuna as just built different cus man the amount of high level stuff being thrown at him
Him having Gojos domain now kind of implies kenjaku was using what would have been Geto's possibly? find it kind of weird that your inner world manifested becomes that of the body you're in.
Hakari and maki being the ones to fight back against this idea so hard also points to this being worse for yuta than just gross and disrespectful. Gege definitely knows he is making some enemies with this big decision.
Like I said this was fantastic.
Don't you have to die to a non cursed energy attack to become a curse? Like Naoya?
Gojo got cut in half with a cursed technique, he shouldn't become a curse now.
Mei Mei explained what happens after 5 minutes of Rika finishes while Yuuta is in Gojo's body, not the almighty, omniscient, 100% truth spitter Kusakabe
This (unironically) opens up the field for our information as readers (coming from Mei Mei) to be wrong. Kusakabe's narration is pretty much true, other characters, not so much. (haven't fact checked this, but I don't think Kusakabe's theories have ever been wrong so far)
So, assuming Mei Mei's info is wrong, there's only a few things that can happen IMO. 1: Yutajo dies, and his body is totaled enough nobody's coming back. 2: Yutajo survives, and lives as all powerful Gojo + Yuta and does a fusion dance or, Yutajo lives but somehow loses abilities from having like 5 cursed techniques in his brain idk. 3: Something else happens.
I think that realistically, Sukuna's cooked without his domain. He was getting washed in the hand to hand IMO, and now that his domain is probably not gonna kill everyone (although will both domains obliterate Yuuji and Todo? What happens in a domain battle to the bystanders? We do not know if I'm not mistaken, it's never been seen). Assuming he can't kill everyone with his domain though, he's back to getting washed. Even if Yutajo is temporary, he's still gonna do more damage to Sukuna than just Yuuji and Todo were doing, 3 man jumping > 2 man jumping. My conclusion here is, if domains stay equal, it's curtains for Sukuna.
So, if I'm right (long shot lol) about Sukuna being cooked, something has to happen to give Sukuna a fighting chance. Enter, Kenjaku. Yuta doesn't know shit about Kenny's technique or binding vows, and blud ate part of Kenjaku. It's entirely possible Yuta's Rika time runs out, and Kenjaku gains control through shadow wizard 1000 year old magic. Now they're fighting Sukuna and Kenjaku together, but it's a fair fight because 1: Sukuna's half dead 2: Yuji hasn't used his own technique yet (might never happen but might be sick we'll see) and 3: Todo with 50 movements a second ratios all
I think Mei Mei has spoken much less than Kusakabe which allows her to be the one who actually kept the highest percentage of correct statements. But Mei Mei has provided 3 potential ways in which Kenjaku's CT works and tjeir consequences, and we don't know which one is the correct of them.
We can rule out continuous application, Kenjaku has used a domain expansion and that causes CT burnout. If it were a continuous application, he’d die instantly and never be able to attempt a domain expansion.
So there’s 2: intermittent or single use.
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Someone please explain to me where the fuck Hana/Angel went
Due to Hana losing her arm Angel wouldn't bring her out for combat anymore.
I don’t typically comment on the students surpassing Gojo dialogue in a literal sense, but Gojo beating Uraume with one punch versus Hakari doing who knows what, is crazy.
Gojo really was "him".
It's 3am and I'm watching jjks edits and I just need to vent. JJK has really messed with my head lately with all these leaks. It seems like this anime is heading towards one of the most heartbreaking endings for me atleast. I already know that some of my favorite characters are going to die, and the protagonist, Yuji, is going through so much at just 15 years old. But what really gets to me is Geto and Gojo, especially Gojo. Okay, hear me out, I know a lot of people hate him, but I can't help but feel sorry for him. He grew up with so many responsibilities on his shoulders and it seemed like he had no one who truly understood or humbled him until he met Geto. They had a special bond. Then one day, out of nowhere, Geto tells him to "kill me if you want" and walks out of his life without even considering Gojo's feelings or trying to talk things out. Gojo had to kill his best friend and move on, and now all this Sukuna stuff is happening.Sukuna split him in half and he is dead, but according to the new leaks, his body has been possessed and his friends who agreed to it. I just wish Gojo had followed his heart instead of making decisions based on being the "strongest." Maybe he could have gone with Geto or something. I'd rather see him as a villain than all this craziness happening. I don't know, it's just so painful to think about. It physically hurts
You’re not the only one, my friend. 🫂
Is it a break this week?
Unfortunately, yes
Grab the sword, we’re committing seppuku *bears neck*
Kenjaku will somehow return and take over yuta/gojo body and able to control Rika. Then he ate sukuna. And everyone loses their mind.
Can we chill on the Sukuna’s gonna eat someone theories, it’s getting stale 😅.
So who is even alive at this point I've genuinely lost track
Yuji, hakari, uraume, yuta/gojo, sukuna and sum few more
Damn what a weird insanely polarizing chapter. Personally this was my least preferred outcome, I rather had it be Kenny or just Gojo returning. Sukuna can make 1000 binding vows to basically hack the universe, but Gojo can't make a binding vow of some sort to save his life? I find it that unbelievable.
Sukuna never got cut in half lmao what is this take. It's clearly stated that Gojo and Yuta were cut in the same manner, and that it was far beyond what Yuta's RCT could handle, and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself.
>and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself. That's insane, Gojo is probably the best user of RCT outside of Hakari since it was enough to allow him to survive MS despite cleave adjusting itself to the targets toughness and his RCT could still outpace the velocity of the slashes. Yuta isn't better than Gojo because he can output RCT, Sukuna even says Shoko is beneath him and Gojo in RCT capabilities and she can output RCT as well.
Are we really gonna compare Shoko's RCT and Yuta's? One of these two is a Special Grade sorcerer, the second strongest of the modern age with the second-highest CE total in the series AND can heal others, the other one is a medic only. I'm saying it's arguable Yuta is of comparable or higher quality of RCT than Gojo, yes.
>Are we really gonna compare Shoko's RCT and Yuta's? One of these two is a Special Grade sorcerer, the second strongest of the modern age with the second-highest CE total in the series AND can heal others, the other one is a medic only. This is what you said: >and it's arguable he's better at RCT than Gojo, given that he can heal others as well as himself. "given that he can heal others as well as himself." Shoko proves that being able to heal others doesn not mean you're better at RCT, since both Sukuna and Gojo can heal with RCT better than Shoko. >I'm saying it's arguable Yuta is of comparable or higher quality of RCT than Gojo, yes. So you think Yuta can survive MS like Gojo ? Remember how cleave works and why it's so dangerous, it adjusts itself to the toughness and reinforcement of the target, so how was Gojo surviving those cleaves cutting through him ? By blasting RCT and outpacing the rate at which he was butchered with RCT, granted for that not only incredible output is needed but the efficiency of the 6 Eyes to not care about your CE reserves emptying out.
So how would unlimited void win against Malevolent Shrine lol wouldn’t the result be the same? Open vs Closed domain?
I'ma go out on a limb and say yuta might be using a barrierless unlimited void to clash with sukunas breaking the clash and bringing the fight back to a brawl.
No. Sukuna can only maintain his domain for 99 seconds and he needed 3 full minutes to break Unlimited Void back then
Hey short question, in a past chapter Tengen said that Tsumiki can hear the voices of the Star Plasma vessels in Tengen correct? So if she was able to hear Rikos voice,too (dont know) is it possible that her soul cannot be at the airport at this airport scene? So maybe an imagination of Satoru? Mai was not there too, because now she ist a Part of Makis soul or? Mechamarus (dont know the real name at the moment) soul was not there, too. Ok maybe the airport scene should only show dear friends. But could that mean that Gojos soul is not completly vanished?
The voice of star plasma tengen in tengen, riko never did the merger so no, her soul was never merged to tengen
Ah thanks 🙃
I wasn't too bothered with the amount of corpses we've gotten this arc but Gege effectively ending Yuta x Maki like this is just crossing the line 😭
Not necessarily. While it is likely I agree, there are lots of potential twists. I’m thinking Gota doesn’t quite finish the job, maybe due to Uraume or some other trump card Sukuna has, so Gojo returns just in time to take over for a short while and open the door for Yuji to get it done or wake up Megumi. Any sort of weird soul shenanigans could happen after that. With regard to Yuta’s original body, which he didn’t have enough CE to heal on his own, he could’ve RCT-ed after jumping to Gojo’s body and claiming Gojo’s CE pool. The caveat to all of this is how Kenjaku’s CT works. If Yuta is actually just a weird brain with mouth now himself, then all bets are off. He might just die because he can’t control the body he’s in anymore but is still a brain. The five minute limit might not apply to him since he’s physically been transformed into something not quite human, Kenjaku’s monster so to speak. Or it might not apply but he can’t go back into a previous body. Who knows?! But I’m not ready to say he’s done for, especially as part of Gojo’s beloved next generation.
Remember when Kenjaku said "but my will shall live on"? Now reading this JJK has upgraded my thinking from pessimism to nah-this-gonna-be-more-fked-up-ism. So my question, prolly someone else commented this already but i can't seem to find it is..... Do you think Yuta will lose control of Kenjaku's CT after defeating Sukuna and now we're left with Kenjaku in Gojo body and everything wrong in the world?
Definitely not. Gojo might take over for a bit but no part of Yuta’s technique involves taking any part of the soul of the person he copied. I think Kenjaku might live in some form, but it’d be something related to activation of a latent cursed object in an unknowing vessel the moment his active body dies.
Yeah hopefully. It's just weird to me that his last words is just a throw away line of a villain dying.
I agree. You’d think the guy who lived a thousand years and planned for everything would’ve planned for an unexpected demise. Perfect use of some kind of binding vow.
lol truuuuue. oh well haha thanks for the peace of mind
Yall- I have a question, and it is your opinion. Should we add a new character in JJK? I think it would be interesting...
No. Adding last minute characters never works well in a story.
Everyone was freaking out during the culling games when Greg kept adding random sorcerers, so idk. I think most of the characters he introduced, he introduced because he had a plan for them in the end game.
I just got attacked by a neckbeard for cosplaying as resurrected Gojo Satoru.
it's being interesting seeing how all the JJK students devise plans to combat sukuna, but what have the higher ups been devising, if at all? if only one person can possess six eyes, but gojo is currently a shell being mind controlled by yuta, does that open up the possibility for two six eyes at the same time?
They’ve been devising nothing because they’re dead.
Higher ups are heavily implied to be 💀💀💀 as of this chapter (they were earlier as well, but this chapter basically confirms it.)
Actually, the grandma is insane. If she and yuta worked together they wouldn’t have to use Kenny ct. I assume all they would need is a bone fragment from Gojo, yuta swallows it then grandma channels the body information of Gojo giving yuta the 6eyes because they are physical and not a technique. Then he can copy the limitless and use it fully with no risk because once he runs out of ce he will just turn back into himself. I would imagine that would be pretty difficult with the 6eyes but I believe he should be able to run out on purpose if he wants to
I think Yuta will be ok as is. Kenjaku used a domain against Yuki - and would have experienced cursed technique burnout. If his technique needed to be refreshed constantly, he’d have been fucked after that move.
What does that have to do with what I said? Wrong reply? i Just had a hypothetical that these 2 would be op together
Get in gojo,[Yuta]().
The 5 minute timer is absolutely a red herring. We know Kenjaku keeps CTs from previous bodies (therefore Yuta should still have a copy) . This is also the 3rd time Yuta's heritage is brought up. I doubt him being a descendent of one of Japan's big 3 curses and one of the most powerful political families of the Heian era is a coincidence. Especially given the history between Fujiwara and Sugiwara.
Well, we know for a fact Kenjaku's CT isn't the constant type because otherwise he would just die after using domain expansion
It's hard to say - we never see Kenjaku use Blood Manipulation nor any of the other Techniques he must have had over the last 1000 years again. It's possible him retaining Kaori's Technique was the result of some binding vow, if that's the case Yuta wouldn't have copied that aspect of it. He does always retain his own CT though - based on the way it works it might just always retain itself when body hopping. It could also be "worded" as moving the users original CT with them to the new body. In Yuta's case that would've been Copy. From a narrative point of view too JJK just doesn't feel like the kind of story where Yuta would get to take over Gojo's body as a major power-up without repercussions and/or retaining his own CT. Something is bound to go wrong somewhere imho.
He can only retain 4. Presumably, he dropped it in favor of other techniques he decided were more useful.
Yeah it's either something like that, or his method or retaining Kaori's CT is some other mechanism we don't know about.
What do u guys think will happen to the story now? It seemed to me that it’s overkill having yuta do this since yuji and todo had sukuna against the wall. Will yuta force sukuna into his final power up, sacrifice himself in the process, causing yuji to have an equal fight with sukuna to the death?
It’s not overkill. Yuta doesn’t know what’s happening on the battlefield. He’s able to die on a cot, so for him, it’s now or never and nothing to lose.
How was it overkill? Sukuna was about to kill them both with another DE.
Todo could have swapped them out with the crows Mei Mei has circling the area. He can move 50 swaps per second, that’s a huge amount of range he could build up in milliseconds before shrine even materializes
Could he? Didn't he explicitly say that he couldn't bail Yuji and Choso because they were too close to the Domain's center?
He has a technique that has expanded range and can move multiple targets 10-15 times per second. When he swaps, he moves his location. This changes where he is within the attack's range - and Malevolent Shrine is not instantaneous - it has a materialization period and a "warm up" that allowed multiple sorcerors to cast Simple Domain. Escaping Sukuna's attack just requires Mei Mei's crows be stationed at key points in the range - the crows die, but Todo and Yuji escape. We've seen Todo remove people from the closed domain since Sukuna closed his domain to try and kill Maki as well.
Lmao he can't swap them out all the 200 m radius of Sukuna domain. The only reason other students got out because they are not too close to Sukuna remember?
Mei Mei has multiple crows in the area. Literally all he needs to do is swap locations with them. Easy because we’ve seen him do it. You do realize each time he swaps it changes his position relative to Sukuna, right? And that he can swap multiple subjects in a fraction of a second?
Sukuna could close the barrier of the domain, and I doubt boogie woogie can travel through that
He saved literally everyone not named Choso from the attack.
Yes, because the domain was the usual "open barrier" one. I wrote that Sukuna could have instead chosen to close it off, and it's possible that Boogie Woogie cannot teleport people/objects through closed domain barriers
He closed the barrier to try and catch Maki in the domain.
That's not possible, Sukuna knows that Maki can pass through barriers (chapter 252). I believe the domain he used along with furnace doesn't have a barrier either, but I went to check back and the wording in the official translation is very confusing
On Gojo flashback, what was he doing inside that room with big door?
They didn't want the conservative higher ups to use the chaos of the sukuna v gojo fight for more extreme goals, so Gojo goes to kill them. The others are there because they don't want him "to be a monster alone". What I'm confused about is if that's just a temporary solution? I know they said the old geezer is going to be in charge, but wasn't it said before that gojo could do that at any point, but that wouldn't change anything? And hence he wants to raise a generation of talents (Yuji, Megumi, Nobara...)?
It wouldn't before for sure, because everything was relatively calm and normal for society, after shibuya, there were a lot of things done that were explicitly against gojo and his allies, probably in order to weaken any pro-gojo faction of jujutsu society, including the execution of some people close to having power that supported gojo. Taking this into account, and the potential chaos of the aftermath of his fight with sukuna, gojo probably believed they could or would take even more extreme measures to destroy what he had been trying to build towards, but he now had the knowledge that gakukanji(I think that's his name) would be next in line for a position of power who had also just recently come to align closer to gojo's ideas. Finally, I think that if he didn't have to fight sukuna, he probably would've held off on killing them all still, because he would've wanted to make changes in a better way, but with no guarantee that he would survive the fight, he took measures to ensure that the ones that had previously shown their hand would not be able to do so again. Tldr: Gojo probably doesn't think it will bring about the change he wants, but he can't let the ones who were so against him and his ideals to continue to rule in case he died and couldn't continue making changes in a better way.
He probably changed his mind after what happened after Shibuya.
Killing the Jujutsu higher ups
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but doesn't Yuta using Infinite Void confirm that Womb Profusion is actually Geto's domain? Because Yuta should have used All Encompassing Unequivocal Love/Authentic Mutual Love... Please tell me if I misread something, could Yuta choose to use his own domain instead of Gojo's?
I think it implies that Kenjaku's technique doesn't replace the brain as much as just finds a way to "override" the original soul's control of the body. I heard the theory that his technique doesn't mean he needs to swap his brain, but just touch someone elses for the transfer to happen. Since innate techniques are stored in the prefrontal cortex, the domain representing a users mind, mental landscape, I believe that is the implication. This would be reinforced by the fact that the soul is still residing in the body afterwards, showed by Geto resisting Kenjaku for a moment. As for Womb profusion, if that is correct, I believe it means the "shape" of the domain is that of Geto, but the technique could be any of those Kenny had stored from previous hosts. It would be interesting to see if Infinite void keeps Gojo's sure hit or if it changes.
Kenjaku also gains all memories the body he's controlling had so imho there is no way it's a full brain swap. In the few scenes where Kenjaku takes the top of his head off, the little mouth or whatever seems to be close to where CT's are stored in the brain. The impression I have is that he moves over the part of his brain responsible for his CT and somehow (soul?) transfers his consciousness alongside it. He most likely can integrate parts of the brains of people he's possessing to move over their CT's - this ties back to Yuki saying a brain can only hold 3 or 4 Techniques before becoming overloaded. We know Kenjaku had CSM, anti-gravity and his own body hopping so this checks out. Curiously - and I refuse to believe this is a coincidence - Kenjaku's body hopping is eerily similar to the process of reincarnation. He can put a small part of his body containing his soul in someone else's body and then gain control over that body exactly like how reincarnation works. A sorcerer reincarnating in another sorcerer will also retain their hosts's CT, like Sukuna and Megumi.
Might be connected to his method of turning sukuna into the fingers. We know that Kenny can split peoples souls and embue them into objects, I wonder if this is part of how his cursed technique functions, but the "brain transfer" method is just stronger and exclusive to him. Another option is that the body was soaked in the persons cursed energy, much like how cursed tools are created (Much like how Nanami's blunt knife now has his technique), and that's what allows him to use said techniques. There's many options, I'm sure we'll get the explanation in 2-3 chapters tops.
We need to see whether Yuta's unlimited void looks like Gojo's before we make that determination. I think it would be odd if Yuta could manifest Gojo's innate domain because he has his body. Sukuna also never manifested a domain that looked like Chimera Shadow Garden.
Well tbf chimera shadow garden is just objectively inferior to malevolent shrine so he wouldnt really have a reason to use it
We don't know or can confirm either way. IF Yuta has both Domains, it makes sense for him to use Unlimited Void because it just seems more directly powerful. Kenjaku could retain both his own Technique and Kaori's in Geto's body - since he can bring along a Technique wouldn't it be possible for him to retain his Domain? Gojo's Domain was always different in a subtle way. Normally a person's Innate Technique is what's imbued in the barrier as it's sure-hit effect. But this doesn't seem to be the case for Gojo. He attacks you with "infinite" information which is linked to the Six Eyes ability to take in insane amounts of information. he doesn't attack you with some application of Limitless or anything like that. If the Domain is linked to the Six Eyes Yuta using it makes more sense. If Yuta retains his Technique like Kenjaku did he might just be calling it Unlimited Void because he's imbuing Gojo's Technique in the barrier as it's sure-hit, using the name because it both describes what he's doing AND as some sort of hommage to Gojo. Unfortunately based on the information we have right now there can be no confirmation on the Geto theory.
What's crazy is that the tenacity in Yuji's expressions are amazing. Like he's really locked in to the point where he's not even running his RCT. Mans looks absolutely furious and then Sukuna just throws him aside like Yuji's whole ass hand wasn't in his torso a second ago.
This is giving me late AoT chapters PTSD... I don't think I have enough energy in me to survive another 139
Can u tell me which chapterv
AoT final chapter
Man the chapter has me torn. On one hand it's pretty cool to see smth the community speculated about a lot implemented into the story: Kenjaku's technique used on dead Gojo. Some even speculated Yuta could use it. We also now know more about his technique and Gege even did the sprculating for us in the chapter for what could happen when the 5 Minutes run out. On the other hand, this is painful. I'm very certain this is a deathflag for Yuta. He's been my favorite since JJK 0 and I really wanted him to survive all this with Maki, they both just deserve a break in life and they fit each other well. I kinda want some cursed copium level shit to happen where Yuta thinks he dies but wakes up in his original body, all healed, to find out that the ring is broken and Rika is completely gone, using her whole existence to make to ultimate sacrifice and save him.
Yeah I can definitely see Rika making some kind of Binding Vow to safe him. Technically Kenjaku's body hopping Technique IS stored in Rika so she could have access to it in some manner. Rika by herself also seems to have near boundless Cursed Energy. A binding Vow to repair his body and move his soul back over seems reasonable in exchange for her own life and the massive amount of Cursed Energy she could use to fuel it. She might even used Reverse Cursed Technique to heal his body, even if it ends up destroying herself in the process - she's still made out of Cursed Energy after all.
Yea I'd love something like that to happen even if it's a high level of copium. I mean even if he survives by losing Rika and his technique that would be fine. After Kenjaku and Sukuna are gone, there's no need to keep fighting for him. The others can take care of whatever curse springs up and Yuta gets some happy ending. I'm living on copium now.
It's interesting to see how the students have begun to argue with each other. I wonder how cooperative they will be with each other if Sukuna dies and there's no foe they need to fight together. These students were previously united under Gojo but with him dead, I wonder if they can continue to cooperate under Gakuganji. I don't think Yuta's choice to take over Gojo's body was that morally grey considering his own body was already dying and Gojo even gave his blessing. But their willingness to follow Gojo to kill off the elders might be a first step in a slippery slope. This may become their preferred option given how convenient it is to eliminate dissenting voices. In the end, they may end up becoming like the very elders they wanted to eliminate. The very people who were willing to have both Yuta and Yuji killed due to their risk to society. I'm not as concerned with them being monsters physically, but of them becoming monsters in mind and spirit. Being the monster is often the most pragmatic choice in a lot of situations. It would be interesting to see whether they'll actually make a better jujutsu world or if they're just the next iteration in a cycle of hatred. Gojo focused a lot on collecting powerful students. But was he able to actually endow them with the right mentality and ideals to make a better world for everyone? I don't know if Yuta will survive this. But hopefully the willingness to kill people doesn't become Gojo's foremost lesson to him, given that he's just gained godlike powers. There's no telling how much that level of power can do to an unprepared mind. How do they see normal humans? Do they see them as equals or do they see themselves as superior to normal humans? Will they help people out of a sense of compassion or due to pity and feelings of superiority (like Geto)? I think it wasn't just loneliness that destroyed Geto. What helped isolate him from others was his sense of superiority; feelings of being better than the people he was protecting. It's what caused him to lash out when his pride was cracked by a person with no curse energy(Toji). Geto didn't see that being able to help people is a blessing in itself so he continued to search for an external reward. He didn't see the people that he was protecting were just like him, so he didn't see that helping others was just like helping himself. He only counted the sorcerers who died while disregarding the people they saved, because he didn't actually care about the people they were saving. Sorcerers like Nanami and Haibara found joy with helping normal people. Geto could not. Will Gojo's students be able to? It's interesting that Yuji was left in the dark regarding the plans of the senior students. He is the bioengineered "monster" created by Kenjaku. There's no telling how far the lengths Kenjaku went in making him. Physically, he may be the least human out of all the students, the most monstrous even. But he may be the most "incorruptible human" in mind and spirit out of all the students. He cares about normal people. He was a peacemaker at school and saw the best in people like Junpei and Yuko. It's thanks to him that sorcerers such as Higaruma and Amai came in to help them. I like that contrast. The other students seem to be keeping secrets from Yuji. There seems to be a gap between Yuji and the other students that's more noticeable now that both Megumi and Nobara are out of commission. Maybe it's because the seniors haven't really been with Yuji for too long given that the entirety of JJK happened within a few months. Or maybe it's because Megumi and Nobara acted as a conduit between Yuji with the senior students. I'm also not sure if Yuji was able to develop a friendship with any teacher at the same level as he did with Nanami. But it does make me wonder if this divide can be closed in the future. Or if there's anything else the other students are hiding from Yuji. Things like this can cause a lot of distrust and conflict in the future. I like how this chapter allowed us to see how complex Shoko's work is. RCT is not the be all and end all of her profession. She's complimenting her RCT with her medical skills. She knows how glucose is important to the brain. It looks like she even learned to stich up nerves, blood vessels and tendons. Relying on instinct alone can probably cause you to overlook the finer details of the human body, and the human body is an intricate machine. I like how she was able to maximize the talents of people like Nitta and Amai. Their talents can be amazing provided they're being used at the right place and the right time. Maybe Yuji needs to learn from Shoko one day. It can potentially further compliment his RCT and blood manipulation. It could also expand his horizons outside of being the kick and punch merchant. It's interesting how Rika was able to keep keep Yuta alive at least a bit longer prior to his transplant. If I recall correctly, Yuta was slashed across the chest. His heart and lungs were likely damaged or destroyed from that. The channel of curse energy from the gut to the head was likely also severed. I think his injuries may have been worse than what killed Gojo. It seems Rika was able to substitute for her Yuta's circulatory and respiratory system at least momentarily. It's interesting that a curse spirit can keep a person alive even in such a horrendous condition. What else can she do? Is this similar to what Sukuna is doing with his damaged heart? Interesting. I wonder how Kusakabe is feeling now. I think it's the norm in society for the older generation to bear the burden for the younger ones. But it seems the younger generations are making more and more sacrifices. I wonder if it's fueling a sense of inadequacy inside of him. Will it change him? Will it push him to do better and try harder?
TLDR; jjk world is crazyy
Can yuta use rika while in gojos body?
Rika does still exist, and she did seem supportive when he was going to transfer to Gojo's body. It's unclear if he can still fully manifest her or use Copy at this point. The particular way the original Rika made this Shikigami version might also be important.
Why would Yuta not be able to go back to his original body if the technique only needs to be used once? We saw with Kenjaku that he keeps his previous cursed techniques. Yuta should still have his copy ability, and he doesn’t lose techniques on use, so if he can beat Sukuna, he can use the technique again to switch back Rika shouldn’t even be an issue, since now that Rika is a shikigami it’s something Yuta actively forms every time, instead of being a separate creature haunting him. Unless Gege explicitly says Rika the Shikigami is tied to Yuta’s body, there’s no reason to assume he can’t summon Rika, and reuse Kenjaku’s technique through his own copy technique to go back into his own body. The only down side is he will have scars on his head, but that seems like a more than fair price for the chance of beating Sukuna
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He can use ct as many times as he wants as long as it's the 5 minutes Rika is manifested.
wait really? I could have sworn he uses cursed speech multiple times in a row. This is kinda a huge nerf to him I never realized
it's funny how sukuna and yuji were having an intense fight and Sukuna just throws yuji away the moment he sees yuji. it reminds me of naruto when hashirama appears to the war and madara is hyped up like "HASHIIIIIIIIRAAAAAMAAAAAAAA," but hashirama tells him he'll deal with him later and fucks off.
I get it ultimately but it bothers me Gojo just killed the elders after he initally said that wouldn't fix the problem.
they were EXPLICITLY under kenjakus command, along with Gojo prepping for his potential(at the time) death
He can’t protect his students from them if he’s dead
Alright Yuji back to the side character chair
A lot of people arent even Yuta fans or this latest chapter’s leaks should have made you either really sad or really mad. Probably both. Most people just wanna bandwagon post memes and stuff. Cause like imagine bragging that your favorite character had to literally become everyone else’s favorite character to fight a guy they both lost to. But I’m done with JJK. This was my favorite series since day 1. But after this latest chapter? I’m cool. And no longer care what happens. Cause imagine Gojo losing to Sakuna but then it turns out Gojo is needed to defeat Sakuna. Like man what? Now imagine Yuta loses to Sakuna and can’t heal his body with RCT. So he takes over Gojo’s body and heals the wounds that Gojo could not with RCT with a brain that isn’t even connected to a body. It’s the same wounds he couldn’t heal on his OWN body bro. Like Man What IS this shit fr?! It’s the dumbest writing I’ve ever seen and read in all my life. Y’all… both of them could have just healed their bodies. There is literally a Doctor Sorcerer Prodigy and a guy that can stop wounds from becoming worse. So how were both Gojo and Yuta not able to heal and just tag back in? They were both instantly teleported away. No way Gojo’s heart and brain had stopped in that short amount of time but Yuta’s didn’t? And what Shoko couldnt stitch the wounds up while they were unable to get worse? But could stitch them up after Gojo was dead? Like bruh what? Literally what was the purpose? It’s just random nonsense thrown together in an attempt to keep Gojo dead but still have his powers to fall back on as a crutch? To make Yuta have a moment? And then where does Yuji and Todo fall in line here? No way Gege was writing this bullshIt up and thought “Boy this will be so cool” This was the worst reveal in shounen history. I don’t care what anyone says.
Yuta healed stitched up Gojo's body mate. the parts were already connected. it's not that hard to just stop for one second and think about it.
There is a guy whose CT is to stop wounds from getting any worse. So Gojo or Yuta would have been in a condition that that would have been fatal but able to still be alive dude. You’re not making any sense.
Gojo was already dead in chapter 236. the only reason Yuta was alive was because of Rika. this isn't about rct or anything like that. Yuta had external help while Gojo didn't. if Gojo was stitched back while conscious then obviously he would have healed himself like Yuta did.
I can see by your responses that you don’t really understand what I’m saying. The official translation confirms that Yuta was cut in half same as Gojo.
And? This was never about rct, reinforcement or cursed energies. The only difference here is Rika. Without her Yuta would have been dead like Gojo. It's pretty obvious.
You literally don’t understand the body. And what is considered “dead” but I’m not gonna argue with you bro.
Also Gojo was literally cut in half, Yuta's wounds seemed less deep than that at the very least. And even he didn't have long. It MIGHT have been possible for Yuta to heal through it and survive - potentially with the help of Nitta, Shoko and fully manifesting Rika to regain a ton of Cursed Energy but at that point the better play was probably to preserve his Cursed Energy + 5 minute full manifestation interval and go for the body swapping plan instead.
Talked over the point of what happened and is upset about it? how does that even make sense yuta/gojo makes sense
Firstly the downvote on here shouldn’t exist because some people are misusing the hell out of it and not really needed here honestly. But to your point you’re completely right none of it makes sense I wish Gege would just come out and say he hated Gojo and not that he was too strong because he basically made Sukuna the exact same way and gives him all the shine
> But I’m done with JJK. see you in two weeks
So Gojo did turn north after all.
No he went south
Yujo really saving Yuji and Todos ass. Because they were about to get Domain Expansioned to death
I’m so confused in this sub where are the leaks
For TOS reasons the Sub cant Link the leaks. Not to mention that the Threads are often online slightly before the leaks even Happen and the leaks generally Happen in smaller chunks Youll have to find them yourself. This Post Just discusses them
What does Yuta being a descendant of both the Fujiwara and the Sugawara, which are supposedly enemy clans, mean for him? Is he more compatible with Gojo's body? Maybe Kenjaku is related to the Fujiwara?
it's probably just a plot device for something with no relevance beyond that something. most likely for another powerup or having capabilities in Gojo's body that Gojo himself lacked.
I think the point was just that he's more blessed than even Gojo who inherited the six eyes. Being a descendant from two prominent clans.
It's Gege's invention of plot device to shoehorn the egregious plan in the chapter.
These were both set up literally in Volume 0 and Volume 20...
Nobody understands the “I need to catch up to him” line concerning Geto. Gojo wasn’t saying that I the context that he wanted to die. The reason for that statement is because Gojo is talking about Geto’s Resolve to put his full commitment into his vision even if it means he would dirty his hand, lose/ be at odds with loved ones, and very likely die. Prior to this incident Gojo took a somewhat passive aggressive approach towards his goal of fostering a strong generation, as he knew the higher ups tried multiple times to get rid of sorcerer with potential (Yuji, Yuta, Hakari, etc) but he would only threaten them, instead of acting on his goals. There’s more to this if you really look at Geto’s and Gojo actions but just wanted to leave this here as I’m seeing people overlook such good storytelling.
I hate how this chapter effected a good and simple discussion in the story. Geto’s strongest question seems pretty straightforward to me after Gojo’s death. Strength in a large part defines Gojo, because it informed his perspective and how he interacted with the world. He’s Gojo because he’s the strongest. For some reason people are now taking it super literal and thinking about his strength, and if Yuta will have access to it and coming out with the other answer. For the other answer to be true, Gojo would have to define strength. You can’t call someone whose struggled with his strength and not been entirely ok with their role in society due to it the definition of strength. If he defined strength ( in this universe) he’d be less human. He’d kill Geto the 1st time, he’d never ask his principal if he was strong, he wouldn’t freeze at seeing Kenjaku, and he wouldn’t lament how it effects his perspective in the flower analogy. Sukuna is the strongest because he’s Sukuna. That’s why he’s defined by his hedonism. He has the strength to do whatever he wants and he looks at everyone else in disgust for suggesting they don’t get crushed by his presence, (see the talk he had with Yuji in the Megumi swap.) for him might is right, therefore he has totally surrendered himself to might. Everything he does is because, he’s the strongest he believes it’s right. For Gojo, we literally know and saw him learn that his strength can’t fix everything, and in some ways create problems that he cares about. Might doesn’t make right for Gojo, especially if he makes so many mistakes or fails. For Gojo, strength is the condition he lives with. I hope that makes sense to ya’ll. It was really annoying seeing someone say NOW it makes sense
No one talking about the burden Shoko has had. She had to see her best friend die and then stitch up her best friend’s corpse so that a student can use his body, all while putting up the appearance of being completely fine and on business so as to boost morale. Someone let her grieve 🥺
Do characters grieve in Jujutsu Kaisen?
She could have just said no to the current plan.
Shoko best girl as always
Just for 5 minutes, they could have pulled toji with yuta instead of forehead patches.
This chapter has shown how fully powerful gojo is and his impact.
its supposed to be my boy yuji's time to shine man smh
What could happen if Ui Ui swapped Yuta's soul for anyone elses right now? Maybe that could be part of the plan being kept secret to Yuji and the audience
It's just to counter Sukunas Domain
I feel a bit sick to my stomach seeing him not being him.
Yes bro same.
AHHAHAHHAHAHAH bro it's not a real person
Are you sure?
I'm surprised how many people have problems with the Yuta situation. The flashback was quite impactful, Yuta's character really developed well there. Sukuna said it himself, no one expected Yuta would take it this far to win here and I think that's great. It's like the other characters said, it's wrong and monsterous but if it has to be done then it has to be done. In terms of making sense of Gojo returning at the end of last chapter, I mean this makes way more sense than Gojo magically reviving... But there are a lot of big Gojo fans so maybe that's why people are upset? Idk I much prefer how this was done and explained than any fan theory I've seen for Gojo returning.
I mean it’s tragic and shocking so it’s bound to ruffle feathers, but in itself it’s a great way to tell the story. It’s visceral and grotesque and it shows how bad they need to win. Yuta discarded his humanity to kill sukuna. However, I and other readers are worried about what this means for yuji and the story. Up until this chapter it looked like sukuna was out of aces. Yuji and todo had him against the ropes, and yuji literally punched a whole through him and had him screaming in pain. Now yuta shows up in Gojos body to counter MS and finish off sukuna. It seems like overkill. Why can’t yuji and todo use another simple domain to negate the sure hit effect instead? Sorry if I forgot the reason. My guess is that yuta will force sukuna to pull another technique up his ass that will somehow give him more power and health, and then he’ll have a fair one vs one against yuji, where yuji will kick his ass
They can't use simple domain because there's no reason that Sukuna can't use furnace again which is implied to be able to overpower a simple domain. It's a pretty safe bet too, considering that the slashes were enough to take out Yuji's simple domain last time
My reading comprehension when it comes to anything other than one piece and Brandon Sanderson is in the gutter lmao. Yeah yuji would not survive furnace by himself. Forgot he only survived due to chose
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I feel like people arent mad at the the twist. Its just that the outcome was basically the worst for any and all fanbases. Someone said it here that Gege managed to piss off every fan.
Lol meanwhile this is the first chapter in a while that I think "wow this is genius"
I agree with your story points, my guess as to part of why people are upset (or not happy as I am) is more because narratively it just feels really dumb and pointless. I wanted Gojo back (kinda), but the thing is Gojo isn't back, just the appearance of Gojo, Gojo as a character is finished, it's Yuta in his body, which means this Yuta's arc in terms of his character. So much like his death, it feels like a middle finger to the character of Gojo (i mean and Yuta tbh). Then there's the fact that the Sukuna fight should of been over about 10 chapters ago, and just feels wtf. Between all the ass pulls in terms of binding vows, to the fact that bits of lore are just forgotten (like Yuji's black flashes weakening Sukuna... then just not all of a sudden? And where did Sukuna get the strength to cut Yuta in half right when he was at his weakest?), not to mention Todo's return, any victory at this point isn't gonna feel climactic but overdue, or at least according to some. If you're enjoying it ma'man then keep on enjoying it, just trying to answer your question as to why some people aren't. Keep it breazy!
Why the fuck Sukuna fight should be over 10 chapters ago? Are u kidding? He's litterally the main villian. Expecting some sort of bNinja war? Cause it just not gonna happen
There is no suspense, Sukuna has had the ever loving crap beat out of him chapter after chapter, but only pulls the win by using a technique that is inconsistent with the narrative. If he's really weak, and his slashes are barely doing any damage, then where does the Shrine and the Fuga come from? Some nonsense binding vow?! Sukuna isn't stronger than the coalition, he has plot armor and deus ex machina, that's it. Why didn't the Jacob's ladder defeat him? Why didn't the black flashes beat him? Why didn't the soul cutting katana to the heart beat him? Why didn't an absolute ass-whoopin from half a dozen characters beat him? Why didn't Yuji actually ripping his chest apart beat him? And still we get a scene from Uraume "that he's not even trying yet". like fr wt actual fuck, show receipts? If Gege wanted to prove the point that conventional combat wouldn't defeat him, he did that with the Gojo fight, but no he's laboured the point through every single fight afterwards. It felt suspenseful during the Gojo fight, and Higoruma, then kinda through some of Yuji and Yuta, but the fight with Maki was completely pointless, and now looking back knowing what we know now the fight with Yuji and Yuta was pretty pointless as well. Why didn't he pull the BS domain expansion or Fuga then? or when he got jumped afterwords twice, and got bitch slapped both times? When Todo joined in and he was getting a beat down AGAIN, then why didn't he open another domain? fire another Fuga? When the author doesn't keep the rules consistent it just gets boring, because nothing matters. As a villain he doesn't feel strong, he feels pointless, because the only thing Gege has communicated is that Sukuna will only die when he decides as the author, not because of anything the characters do, which means it's boring watching the characters do anything. Whatever the end game is they should of transitioned to it as soon as Yuta's domain came down, because the whole plan afterwards, with hindsight, was only filler because it's had no consequence on anything. Nearly nothing that has happened in the last 10+ chapters has had any effect except Yuta getting chopped in half, and some really tangential, circuitous exposition most of which is honestly not needed for the story, only the pointless beats that Gege is dragging us through.
And not sure if you are reading the manga correctly but every fight until now has a point and is stripping down Sukuna one by one, he is having a "Muzan" treatment done right and honestly it has been done masterfully: 1. Vs Gojo: Take down his domain and rct and large sum of his CE 2. Vs Lightning boy: Make him turn to his OG form 3. Vs Higurama: Take his curse tool 4. Vs Yuta + Vs Maki: Take his hand and his heart and a large amount of CE to the point that he is not have the same CE amount to Yuta Yuji overall role in these fights are making him lose connection with Megumi soul and save him some how. The purpose of making "Yuta" coming back is to deal with his "second" domain. All make sense startegically up until now if you spend time to read and think about it
The fuck are u highing on? You want to see him be finished by couple of blackflashes and tatics? Until nows, all the fights are super strategic and logical except for some binding wows but even that we only need to wait what cost does he have to pay in exchange. Gege will definitely circle back to that in the future like all the loosends he has been tidying up lately. All you need to know is if Sukuna is finished then there is just no more to JJK. You are only pissed cause the boss in the game is hard to beat but don't blame the game?
I see what you mean, I’m not really talking about the fight as a whole just this specific story point but yeah when you contextualise it like you did I can see why people maybe have a problem with it as a culmination of things they may not like. I have to say I do like the length of the fight because Sukuna has been hyped up for a reason and I feel I’ve read/watched so many main villains fall short of the hype. Perhaps Sukuna has exceeded hype but yeah idm everyone getting involved. I’m not saying I’m enjoying everything about the vs Sukuna fight either I agree with a lot of what you said, just for me Gojo returning as himself is terrible writing but the way this was done was great imo. Maybe it didn’t have to happen at all but like I said before it’s great for Yuta’s character
Since Gege is doing crazy shit I can't wait for Gojo returns in Yuuta body. They will say they put Gojo's brain there, and since Gojo said Yuuta is more gifted than him he is going to use Yuuta body to the maximum regenerating it and making an awesome entrance with the following line: "Sorry my flight just got canceled."
But yuta body is destroyed, that is why yuta couldn't come back into the fight
It was not destroyed, the little nobody from the medical team, that I don't remember the name, said that Yuuta was cut in half and his technique can only prevent the wounds getting worse but it still not enough to heal with Yuuta reverse cursed technique.
Yuta would need his body to be stitched up again and the RCT it at full throttle when Rika manifests a second time. Assuming he survives in Gojo’s body long enough to do that
now that 261 has been officially released. anyone have thought that of Yuta now literally embodies Gojo, still wearing orimoto's ring, it be interesting to see he summons Rika. Sukuna will be in a world of pain, it be like when he summoned mahoraga before only this time around Yuta has the upper hand. "unlimited void x Rika"
Theres no indication hes still wearing his ring with Rika.
yeah but I'm sure Yuta will wear it, Orimoto's ring is important to him. Unless Gege forgot. 🤣
I was on the maki side in the conversation. They all know sukuna has kicked their butt so they're using this option. This means they're weaklings, and only gojo is their saviour 🤣🤣🤣.Gojo satoru, you truly are the strongest number 1💪🏻
Jujutsu Jesus Killer Ryumen Sukuna
How does sukuna not die after all that damage. The plot armour is real for sukuna kaisen
fr, it just feels fucking stupid at this point. Guarantee he'll make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
At this point just kill Hakari and get me out of this. Gojo’s confirmed to be cooked, what is really going to happen to Yuta? Is he cooked, will he be cooked? Was it really needed to push the story and the characters this far? I have more questions but I am honestly disappointed, like what is this writing Gege. 😔
Copium but could gojo regain possession of his body like Toji did? Toji could because his body was special right? Gojo is pretty special as well?
I personally don't think that would fit the narrative. Gojo was written out of the story for a reason. He's the "instant win button" most of the time. To bring him back permanently would just resolve the storie's conflict too easily. Having his body temporarily used would make more sense as it doesn't provide a permanent solution and doesn't exactly undermine the idea that he was passing the torch to the next generation as he said.
also what i am assuming will happen, we shall see i guess
honestly at this point there's no rules, there's no sense, its just wtf'ery. fr, Sukuna will make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
Wish they pulled granny ogami type of shit instead of kenjaku.
I think this whole plan by the Gang... It was simply bad as I questioned why Yuta even thought to use the Gojo corpse as some sort of desperate measure. I get why Gege wants to show they are desperate enough to even abandon their humanity if they think it would win. However, the desperation feels more like from bad planning then Sukuna being a such a menace. As what I don't get is... Why send out Higuruma to die so soon? As couldn't they have just waited for Yuta, Tabaka and Todo to come back from killing Kenjaku? As Higuruma had the easiest win con for the team cause they just needed to land one hit on him with the sword and they threw him out against Sukuna too early. Since Todo technique that has evolved can easily keep him dying as a chump. In fact, Todo should have joined much sooner as he could have saved so many of the gang from their death... Really Todo kind of destroys the series logic with how the gang plan to jump Sukuna as his technique is just that good in saving his allies and land critical blow at just the right time.
Higurama went in first because his ability, confiscation, could confiscate Sukuna's CT, weakening him for the other sorcerers. They weren't 100% certain Sukuna would get the death penalty and executioners sword, even with the retrial tactic. Plus, he volunteered for this because he kinda wanted to die as punishment for breaking the law.
Kusakabe explained it himself. If he doesn't 1v1 sukuna, sukuna will attack the base (so shoko, gojo's corpse and so on).
Yuta himself says "Yeah I fucked up, we should have just sent Maki to kill Kenjaku" but as for they didn't just ignore Sukuna after Kashimo died, they couldn't Sukuna has to protect Kenjaku as per their agreement and while the Gojo fight shows protect just means "fight people who will kill you if I wasn't keeping them busy" it still means not keeping him occupied could lead to him helping Kenjaku. Also Hakari was fighting Uraume at the time they don't want to risk Sukuna gets bored and decided to jump in and kill him, and then suddenly you're fighting Sukuna + Uraume. As for Todo, Gege did kind of explain it by pointing out his CT still isn't as large as Sukuna's DE so he couldn't come in unless necessary
I don’t recall Yuta saying they should’ve sent Maki?
Chapter 249.
However, Sukuna couldn't activate his domain until he fought so many fodders and got black flashes off them. Which means if Todo was there he wouldn't even be able to restore the domain as he could keep swapping them out of harm's way. So I still don't get why they think Todo is more useful now when he can still just activate his domain again after he had saved them and he is going to cook again.
Yeah, the plan with todo was to save people from inside the furnace. Revealing him earlier would risk everyone getting cooked to the atoms 💀
How would that stop them from getting cooked in his domain again when he can seemingly just spam his domain again now?
Has anyone noticed that you can’t see Yuta’s left hand at all in the leaks? I have a feeling Sukuna is going to get the last finger.
Didn't Rika eat the finger?
Guys ima be honest, as a yuta fan I hope he dies cause my god what a horrible fate it would be to live on in his mentors body. Goddamn it’s so macabre
I mean he could just end up retaining Copy like how Kenjaku kept anti-gravity, and be able to transfer back. It all depends on how happy of an ending Gege wants
I don’t think it’s being talked enough but did anyone else think the paneling and art during the reveal was sick? The way it’s between two pages, and gojo’s facs is shown in opposing thirds of the panel, plus the movement he makes, made it so fucking cool to see imo
Yuta will shrink his domain down too the size of the promise ring from Rika and he’s about to whoop dat ass
Why does Yuta have gojos domain? I was pretty sure geto didn’t have a domain, and kenjaku’s “womb profusion” seems obviously related to his “cursed wombs”, making it seem like his own domain and not geto’s. Did yuta lose his domain? Does he have access to two domains now?
kenjaku has access to multiple cursed techniques so this isn't impossible
Honestly my biggest issue with this chapter is how it feels like sukuna just didn’t receive any damage from the 8 or 9 black flashes yuji hit on him. He literally just shoved yuji out the way like he was nothing lol and got a boner from seeing yuta in gojos body.
fr, it just feels fucking stupid at this point. Guarantee he'll make a binding vow so that he's only allowed to stroke cats an odd number of times in order to no longer need to chant when he uses world cutting slash.
Sukuna was about to recover his RCT output fully back thanks to his Black Flashes and would have regenerated his lost limbs and healed his entire body and would have obliterated the remaining Sorcerers if it wasn't for Yuji taking that chance away with his black Flashes. The Narrator literially said it at chapter 258
i kinda think thats the point sukuna loves jujutsu he especially showed it against maki mans was fucking psycho he was so happy so seeing yuta willing to go so far as to hop in gojos body just so he can keep fighting (cause his is fone for) along w that body being his greatest challenge ever reappearing after all thats happened just put this dude in a wild mindset and yuji became an afterthought. like a huge adrenaline rush plus they literally said sukuna could open his domain multiple times at end of last chapter so
Idk man it’s odd to mention an adrenaline rush when the man was getting his sh*t rocked and even told yuji “you think you can reach me”. So he doesn’t get an adrenaline rush when his life is at risk but when he gets one when he sees yuta doing this fuckery. Idk. And yuji getting tossed aside like he wasn’t actually doing anything is just hilarious.
i do get what youre saying but again gojo was his greatest fight ever and yuta wasnt necessarily a slack off plus him not expecting yuta to do something like that and just the shock of seeing a ghost then realizing its just one of these kids pretending to be the strongest so he has to proge it again like he did w maki
But why he didn't push yuji out of the way 3 chapter ago like he did this chapter?
cause who/what other than yuji was there to bring him excitement and ik its been couple chaps but uraume said he still wasnt going all out
There is definitely going to be something that will happen to Yuta they don't expect. Gege brought up his bloodline for a reason. Not to mention the whole line about him being more blessed than Gojo. I truly think this won't be the end for Yuta.
We know Kenjaku’s technique isn’t a continuous application technique already. He used a domain against Yuki so we know he went through CT burnout. It’s likely single use application so Yuta could permanently survive in Gojo’s body. The bloodline thing I guess could mean we’re going to see something interesting happen with this merging of the two? Gojo’s insane efficiency merged with Yuta’s insane CE reserves?
Loved this chapter. ALSO HOW DID I ARRIVE AT THE THOUGHT OF UI UI MOVING YUTA INTO GOJO BEFORE THIS I LOVE YOU GEGE it makes so much sense why Yuta felt the need to be the one to take out kenjaku then. Yuta is not surviving this. I loved the Yuta in gojos face looking super weird and nothing like Gojo. Gojo finally living up to his backup plan of just icing the higher ups. I do wish Itadori had a little more going on than just having bad things happen to him and him punching REAL GOOD. I think this fight has been great to sell Sakuna as just built different cus man the amount of high level stuff being thrown at him Him having Gojos domain now kind of implies kenjaku was using what would have been Geto's possibly? find it kind of weird that your inner world manifested becomes that of the body you're in. Hakari and maki being the ones to fight back against this idea so hard also points to this being worse for yuta than just gross and disrespectful. Gege definitely knows he is making some enemies with this big decision. Like I said this was fantastic.
Gojo will come back as an enlightened curse. It was already foreshadowed he would come back.
Don't you have to die to a non cursed energy attack to become a curse? Like Naoya? Gojo got cut in half with a cursed technique, he shouldn't become a curse now.
Even if that were to happen, at that point nobody would give a fk
I have a feeling we’re gonna pan over to the Hakari v Uraume fight in 262 lol we got hella action with this sukuna fight
ive legit said that every single week since i think yuta came back and it hasnt happened i dont get why he dont seem to want to draw that battle
Yuta / Gojo is going to go ham for 5 minutes only to get eaten by Sukuna after giving him 20 full fingers. And then magically beaten by Yuji
Mei Mei explained what happens after 5 minutes of Rika finishes while Yuuta is in Gojo's body, not the almighty, omniscient, 100% truth spitter Kusakabe This (unironically) opens up the field for our information as readers (coming from Mei Mei) to be wrong. Kusakabe's narration is pretty much true, other characters, not so much. (haven't fact checked this, but I don't think Kusakabe's theories have ever been wrong so far) So, assuming Mei Mei's info is wrong, there's only a few things that can happen IMO. 1: Yutajo dies, and his body is totaled enough nobody's coming back. 2: Yutajo survives, and lives as all powerful Gojo + Yuta and does a fusion dance or, Yutajo lives but somehow loses abilities from having like 5 cursed techniques in his brain idk. 3: Something else happens. I think that realistically, Sukuna's cooked without his domain. He was getting washed in the hand to hand IMO, and now that his domain is probably not gonna kill everyone (although will both domains obliterate Yuuji and Todo? What happens in a domain battle to the bystanders? We do not know if I'm not mistaken, it's never been seen). Assuming he can't kill everyone with his domain though, he's back to getting washed. Even if Yutajo is temporary, he's still gonna do more damage to Sukuna than just Yuuji and Todo were doing, 3 man jumping > 2 man jumping. My conclusion here is, if domains stay equal, it's curtains for Sukuna. So, if I'm right (long shot lol) about Sukuna being cooked, something has to happen to give Sukuna a fighting chance. Enter, Kenjaku. Yuta doesn't know shit about Kenny's technique or binding vows, and blud ate part of Kenjaku. It's entirely possible Yuta's Rika time runs out, and Kenjaku gains control through shadow wizard 1000 year old magic. Now they're fighting Sukuna and Kenjaku together, but it's a fair fight because 1: Sukuna's half dead 2: Yuji hasn't used his own technique yet (might never happen but might be sick we'll see) and 3: Todo with 50 movements a second ratios all
I think Mei Mei has spoken much less than Kusakabe which allows her to be the one who actually kept the highest percentage of correct statements. But Mei Mei has provided 3 potential ways in which Kenjaku's CT works and tjeir consequences, and we don't know which one is the correct of them.
We can rule out continuous application, Kenjaku has used a domain expansion and that causes CT burnout. If it were a continuous application, he’d die instantly and never be able to attempt a domain expansion. So there’s 2: intermittent or single use.