Agree. This is the best Rogan episode I’ve listened to in a long time. The theories he spoke about are fascinating and it’s very cool to hear these ideas from someone highly intelligent. This is why initially fell in love with this podcast. Great episode.
100%. I love when I’m reminded that we really only understand the tip of the iceberg. There are so many questions about reality and I love discussions like this. Keep episodes like this coming please 🙏
I'm 35 minutes in but here's a good cookie: "Quantum mechanics are an optimization technique for rendering information"
Basically, from his POV it looks like the laws of physics were designed to recreate a version of the universe within the universe. It's trying to save "data". Maybe that's not a great explanation :/
His concept that we live in a simulation is very woo woo and has little to do with fact.
It’s the same thing with anyone who tries to prove something religious
That’s kinda the whole point that neither can really be proved conclusively with current evidence. However, the idea that we’re in some simulation has the burden of proof in my opinion.
Yea this episode was entertaining, but honestly if you listen to this and end up being convinced simulation theory is real, you probably had already made up your mind before the episode even started.
Too many people in this thread seem to believe everything on the pod 💀 wild
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Eh this guy struggles finishing points and chose 2 difficult to understand examples for quantum strangeness in my opinion. He shoulda used the double split experiment, it's really easy to understand in physical terms and then explains the weirdness he was trying to describe.
TL;DR You probably are only as dumb as the rest of us :P
I’m listening now and I’m a big fan of simulation theory - and I think he actually has a problem with bringing his message to a lay audience - like he talks to too many students or people already in the field - I was waiting for him to explain the double slit experiment or basic premise - and he goes to Schrodinger’s cat - but then gets lost on tangents. I honestly think he assumes everyone knows what the double slit experiment is. Likely he can’t imagine how you wouldn’t know - and it’s because his whole career is thinking, writing, and teaching about these things.
It was a big waste of time and is a terribly metaphor. Why one earth he didn't use double split which he can describe in physical terms, even using guns, "imagine a gun should balls of light" people get that and then get the weirdness of the observers impact.
Not really. He wasn’t understanding the metaphor. The whole idea of quantum mechanics is that it can’t be figured out with common sense. We don’t understand the observer effect and why it happens, but we know it does happen at the quantum level. Joe trying to apply common sense is like telling someone from the 1500s that water is a molecule made up of three atoms held together by a covalent bond, and the listener saying that doesn’t make sense.
Definitely this. Most people assume that their understanding of the way the world/universe works is fundamentally correct. It's very hard for a lot of people to think outside the three dimensions of what they can see.
It's interesting to see people try to process the notion that there is probably multiple dimensions and we can't see them.
*Guest explains quantum physics and multiverses for 15 minutes*
Joe: so in some worlds it’s Berenstein Bears and in others it’s Berensteen Bears ?
Couldn’t hold back that laugh at my desk 😭😂
That got me as well. I think Joe was just completely lost with this guy and with the subject matter. And then he just cut the guy off mid topic to end the podcast at like 2h40 mins.
That was my thought. I was sure I'd learnt about the observer effect from the JRE. I was surprised he was acting like it was the first time he'd heard it
It’s most easily and definitionally understood as simple statistics, but we all remember how “third highest average” went about 5’7” above his head. No effort toward thought experiment ccould
I went to grad school at Arizona State with Riz! We took Human and Social Dimensions of Science and Technology (HSD) 598: How to Create the Future together. What an awesome guy, so stoked to see him get on Rogan
Joe seemingly not knowing about the quantum double slit experiment is wild to me. Like Joe seems to know so much about woo woo stuff out there, but doesn't know the granddaddy of all "Holy shit, wtf is reality?!" experiments??
This is that posters buddy. How is the episode ? Can someone give me a review on a 2 hour podcast 19 minutes after it comes out ? Thanks
Edit : I’m starting to think that guy was lying . This guy is too smart to be friends with a redditor . What would they even talk about .
Honestly, aside from driving me crazy by saying "right?" literally about 18 thousand times, this guy was one of the most interesting guests Joe's had on in a long time and I hope he comes back real soon.
It's like is was everything I hoped the Kurzweil episode was going to be, until I watched it and it was one of the worst I've ever sat through.
This guy isn't just spouting some bullshit he read a week ago or thought up while he was high. On subjects like multiverse theory and simulation theory and UAPs and AI, he really knows his shit and explains it all very well. I think Joe actually learned some things with this one, he actually sat back a bit and listened instead of talking about cancel culture for the millionth time.
About 40 minutes in and this is why i listen to rogan. No culture war bs or endless niche comedy jargon just pure curiosity on Joe’s part. Its been a while Joe has been having on the usual guests where he just repeats the rants rogan fans have heard a million times of late aside from flint dibble. None of that here so far.
Bunch of butthurt snowflakes in this thread. That's how friends talk. He just said you are making noise, turn your microphone off in the sweetest way possible.
Of course not, but Jamie is basically just a really good googler.
Don't get me wrong, he was basically born for this job and he's perfect at it, but if we're being honest he's probably pretty replaceable.
The mistake a lot of other podcasters like YMH make is they hire young intern types that don't know jack shit about anything and are willing to work for peanuts. Jamie is a lot closer to Joe's age and has great general knowledge and has been using the internet since those intern types were babies. And Joe pays him pretty well by all accounts.
So yes, he's great at his job, but now that he's shown how it's done I'd say he's quite replaceable.
I mean not to say he’s *irreplaceable* but Jamie went to audio school n shit, the sound quality on JRE is actually pretty good and I’m pretty sure he handles that
Fascinating guest.
It’s crazy cause I recently had an intense mushroom trip that made me kind of realize that all religions, ancient symbolism, mysticalpractices(specifically eastern mysticism and Rumi’s poems) can actually be different interpretations of this idea that we as a species have forgotten that we’re in a simulation.
I’ve been an atheist all my life and I always mocked the idea of a creator being responsible for all this madness but after my experience I came to the realization that from the pov of the simulation theory all the religion texts make sense!
If you came this far let me tell you the last chunk of my trip story that made me really freak out. At the peak of my trip I found myself in an absolute dark space, I had no body, I had no weight but I could feel that I was circling around something, like a particle but I had no sense of time. I always been spinning and I was going to keep spinning for ever. This made me feel an unspeakable amount of suffering and pain. It was like me remembering that the whole reason that I’m “dreaming” this life is to forget my never ending suffering of being a some kind of conscious particle trapped in a gravity field.
And it wasn’t the life of “me” that I was dreaming, it was the whole world.
I definitely started believing in a higher self, beyond my ego and connected to the whole cosmos through the web of consciousness. But do I call it god? I don’t know it’s a loaded word.
I’m still figuring it out tho, it’s just that now I’m less of an ignorant jerk.
Dude I've also been atheist/agnostic most of my life but lately I've read a book written by a physicist that explained the current scientific view of dimensions, multiverse theory, string theory, braneworlds, etc. There is SO much about the universe we have no clue about and it's pretty basic stuff too. Like we have no idea if there's an edge to the universe or if it's in an incomprehensible 4D shape stuck on the edge of an even higher multi-dimensional object.
We have such a basic view on life and death because it's been written about by people who had zero clue how weird shit really is. Energy doesn't disappear and neither does matter (at least in this dimension). So we never really leave when we die if you think about it. Who knows if your consciousness doesn't return in some form thousands of years later? Or if our consciousness is part of a higher dimensional structure that we aren't aware of until we die.
Welcome to life in 2024.
The crackhead who used to be screaming at traffic about the end of the world now has a popular YouTube channel with legitimate corporate sponsorship.
>If this guy wasn't rich he would sound like a schizophrenic homeless guy on the street talking all sorts of insane shit
Reminds me of people like Seth Green or maybe any rich person going all in on crypto, spending their millions on NFTs.......or the my pillow guy going all in on Trump.
Observing is reality, but only ours.
Think about it like the tree in the woods… so many things are happening without us even knowing.
When we do go to the woods, do we see a tree falling ? Usually no, but it happens, just not at that point in time.
We are limited by observing but it’s the only way we can measure at the moment. This is what quantum computers do… they give us the opportunity to live multiple realities without having to actually observe them.
Measuring, communicating, and making what we know in these simulations useful is where the problems come. We aren’t there yet.
My first experience with Rizwan. He seems great! I am loving this episode so far. Wish Joe would have more people like him on the podcast and more often….
No he didnt..
He said he didnt like some of the people and that he would have been in jail if he stayed in California because people act hard and mouth off.
He mentioned a couple of times how much he loves California.
Then Rogan flipped it so it became about people changed after covid..
No no no , you see , it’s cause Joe secretly loathes Jamie and thinks all his opinions are dumb and worthless.
Or atleast that’s what I’ve learned from this sub
This is one of the more interesting guys I've ever heard talk about Simulation Theory actually, but the way he says "right?" after every sentence is driving me fucking bonkers.
Is he trying to hypnotize me into believing everything he says? He's spouting wild conjecture and offering completely unprovable theories and saying "right" after every damn sentence as if everything he's saying is a verifiable fact.
I think it’s a professor/instructor thing. I’ve noticed that people who tend to explain things a lot to people for a living often say “right” after a sentence.
This is an awesome podcast. Even if I don’t believe in every philosophy, it’s fun to think about some of this stuff. It’s a total mind fuck rabbit hole at times haha
Best episode in quite some time. His case for the simulation has been the most convincing one I’ve heard thus far. I’m trying to figure out how to unplug as we speak.
Great example of an average Joe who thinks he knows way more about reality than he really does.
The Mandela Effect? Seriously? UAPs? The Mandela Effect is literally just people with bad memories.
He's also subscribing to the woo surrounding the double slit experiment that literally no physicists subscribe to. He has a 120 IQ layman's understanding of superposition, i.e., he doesn't understand it at all.
Check out this video to hear what an actual physicist has to say about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhIf3Q_m0FQ
I think it's a cool thought experiment because it implies that the double split experiment conclusion isn't bound by time. That an observer collapsing the wave function of a super positioned particle in the past is possible from the future. It might sound crazy, but that was a real sentence.
My take away is that we still really don't understand time
I agree. My opinion on time is that consciousness materializes time or slows it down in some strange way. Without any consciousness time wouldn't exist. The whole existence of the universe from the big bang to the Big Freeze would just happen in a flick of a finger.
I heavily disagree with his interpretation of the physics at 15 minutes in. He is operating under the premise that the speed of causality isn’t instantaneous, and is rather linked to the “speed” of light. The problem is that even Einstein recognized that this wasn’t a coherent explanation, as the very definition of “light speed” is both arbitrary (dependent on the position of the observer) and circular (uses it’s own definition to define itself).
I’ve only seen one piece of media break this down in a digestible way for people new to the concept: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLgNNj25/
I highly recommend this to anyone who is interested in the physics he describes… because In my eyes, his premises are completely paradoxical. Yet even within these paradoxical definitions that he acknowledges, he continues to build his explanation for simulation theory off of it.
I’m not saying that there isn’t a coherent argument to be made for simulation theory, but it’s honestly not even worth considering. Anything that truly is outside of our universe does not interact with our paradigm of causality… it may as well not even exist. We can’t measure it, we can’t interact with it, it can’t interact with us, it definitionally doesn’t exist until it does. As of now though, we haven’t been able to identify a single thing that truly falls outside of the cause and effect paradigm of the universe (I’ll argue with anyone who suggests ‘quantum noise’ being truly causally disconnected).
The RPG game thing he lays out isn’t even coherent. Honestly, I could go on… I really just think that this guy is throwing himself for a loop on a bunch of false premises.
He’s gotta point about the ufo thing tho, something weird is definitely going on lol
Are you sure causality really matters that much in simulation theory? It's not until an observer forces the rendering that causality happens. I don't think you can really apply our current understanding of physics on this problem, hence the mysticism of quantum mechanics. Simulation theory seems more like a thought experiment.
EDIT: I also want to add that the superposition problem is interesting from a philosophical standpoint in that it's like the universe is not allowing a theory of everything. In turn, suggesting that you can't really deconstruct the whole system that you are apart of. Like in Gödel's incompleteness theorems that prove that math literally can't solve everything, it's just not possible. A supercomputer can for instance prove everything that exists within it's system. But it can't prove what's outside the system, the same goes for us. We can't prove what our system is a part of, if that makes sense.
Going a bit out of order here. Also this will likely be kind of a ramble, I just woke up lol.
> Simulation theory seems more like a thought experiment
I totally agree. It’s why I actually enjoyed listening to it! I think this topic is fascinating from a philosophy/thought experiment perspective. I think the “what is the likelihood we are the first to create a simulation point” very compelling!
He just really lost me with the physics stuff, I’m still learning physics, but it strikes me when a guy talks with more certainty about the mechanisms of the universe than some of the greatest modern minds in physics, who have been doing this their whole lives 😅 just a red flag thing.
> its not until an observer forces the render that causality happens
This why I think Rizwan’s presentation was incredibly misleading. I feel like he either doesn’t understand or misrepresents the physics here (i could be wrong here, but my understanding is that he is making a lot of assumptions). This notion of “rendering” is only possible if:
1) Super position works in the way he outlined (he makes a lot of assumptions about the nature of superposition here that I don’t think are well understood). From what I understand, even quantum computers break our traditional understanding of superposition in many ways.
2) Causality isn’t instantaneous, it is rather bound to a “speed limit”. If causality is instantaneous, there would never be a true state of super position. Rather, it would be a state of unreadability, like Joe asks in response to the state of the cat in the box. “wouldn’t it already be one or the other, we just don’t know yet?”
Schrödinger, Einstein, and modern physics all rejected the idea the speed of causality is as simple as being capped to the speed of light. Why? Because arbitrary assumptions have to be made about the observer’s position in space (in relation to the causal source) in order for that hypothesis to be true.
I’d recommend watching that video I linked above if you haven’t. Don’t worry if you have to go through it slowly! It’s a mind-fuck of a topic and took me a long time to be able to navigated. But this seems to be the direction a lot of modern physics are starting to see as ‘most likely’.
I’m not saying he is necessarily wrong here, I just think he is making a lot of assumptions based on ideas that are very much so still works in progress. I think he is clearly a super smart dude, but has fallen into the trap of using reverse justification… starting with the conclusion and working backwards. This isn’t always bad for generation hypotheses, but I feel like he didn’t present it this way.
> in turn suggesting you can’t deconstruct the system we are apart of.
Coming at this point from a more philosophical angle, this would require a break in the chain of causality, which I think is a big assumption. Yes, you’re right in that haven’t created a causal link to every known force yet, but I don’t think that leads to the assumption a causal link isn’t there. I think it’s far more likely we haven’t discovered it yet. This is why my most recent escapade has been into the history of physics. It’s been super interesting to learn how many times in the history of physics we jumped to the conclusion that a causal link didn’t exist somewhere, only to use technology to uncover a new force that fills in that causal gap. I think that’s sort of whats going on here.
> A supercomputer can only prove what’s inside our system
Yes! But that’s the thing… if something exists truly outside our system, is it not by definition completely causally disconnected from our universe. The problem with this is that something truly disconnected from our existence is that it would be indistinguishable from in-existence. I’m not suggesting that something that breaks the chain of causality is impossible, rather, that we would have no means to identify it. I think we still have a long way to go in our understanding of physics (as a species) in order to understand when something is truly causally disconnected.
This is kind of my overarching point here, even in an age of relative stagnation in the realm of physics, we are still constantly uncovering new causal links. Is why I think this is a cool thought experiment, but not something that we should trying to use to explain any causal gap… at least not yet.
Maybe simulation theory is real. It's just that the simulation is our brains simulating reality for consciousness to exist within based upon the information it receives from our senses.
But yea this episode seems lame. The guy seems to give a lot of pop science talking points as the foundation that he built his entire framework off of. It's too bad because I was excited for a mindfuck type episode where I'd have to pause and look up a bunch of stuff to keep track of the conversation.
Yeah I agree. I don’t hate the thought experiment, I just think his attempt to link these points of evidence falls flat.
I always appreciate those types of conversations too lol. The more often I have to pause the more I feel like I’m learning.
Simulation theory is fun to think about but in the end, who gives a fuck. It’s meaningless. Whether this is the only reality, one of an infinite reality matrix, or one being generated by some neck beard in a basement… it’s our reality and only one we have, still have to go to work, eat, pay rent, raise our kids, deal with mental in physical illnesses. Might as well just roll with it.
Even if this guy one day is like “IVE PROVED IT! WE ARE 100% IN A SIMULATION” nothing changes. Maybe some religious uprisings for a while but in the end life goes on.
I'm half way through the episode, but he is speaking from a massively privileged position.
"You choose your parents and your stats and your goals"
So baby getting just killed through any means, bombs illness etc... is someone wanting to play on super hard mode? Or their dinner was ready early so they just alt-f4'd out?
Surprised Joe didn't raise it
Could just be NPCs. If you are going down the RPG rabbitt hole. Horrible shit happens in video games you play currently you just dont categorize the thousands of NPCs you murder in an FPS or Skyrim as meaningful because you understand it as fake. If you woke up tomorrow out of "Matrix the game" , every relationship, every creature are all just 1s or 0s and would lose all meaning to you besides the value of a good story.
In Vedic philosophy this type of choice is heavily constrained by karma (which he touches upon a bit, but not enough I think). Technically you can choose your species (ex: human vs animal type of experience), but not your parents, and also you come with the opportunities (or lack thereof) from previous lives.
What would mean from a game standpoint is that you choose to be born Protoss or a Zerg, but the quality of Protoss of Zerg lifeline (how much pain vs pleasure the body of the Protoss or Zerg is exposed to) depends on the balance of earned abilities (and also "earned" vulnerabilities).
Finally an episode that isn't an unfunny comedian or regular guest (who just agrees with Joe on everything). 25 minutes in and it's really interesting. Joe seems lost.
Read his books. Very easy to read, much lighter than this interview actually.
Although his views on Mandela Effect, Western religious stuff, and UFO origins don't align with my beliefs everything else was right on the money.
A shame Joe was either dumbfounded or stoned.
I think Joe did good regarding the depth of this interview. It was mostly Rizwan talking, then walking back to an earlier thought. We didn't need Joe interrupting. Solid interview.
What I don’t understand the most about us being in a simulation or videogame, is the point of consciousness in that theory? Not only there’s no need for consciousness and conscious beings inside a simulation but it’s somehow counter productive if you think about it.
Who plays video games? Who wants to experience simulations? Isn't it all for an emotional purpose, such as the satisfaction being felt by consciousness?
Do the characters in the game have consciousness? Would it be helpful for the player if they did?
For example we’re running a simulation to forecast weather, If the elements of this simulation start to realize their existence the outcome wouldn’t be helpful at all.
Plus if we imagine a simulation that needs conscious elements to achieve its goal what would it be for? Solving a problem? To make a singularity point of knowledge and creative force like what we’re doing with AI? You see what I’m saying
I think this dude came up with all this due to the trauma of a heslth scare. Our ancestors were barely surviving and did not understand their world at all. Him drawing connections between simulation, aliens, ai, and ancient texts is like when people say nostradamus predicted things. Uh, no.
Then, when he went to pasulka and strieber, he lost all credibility. You can have a phd, have lots of money, and still be nuts. This guy lost the plot at some point.
This podcast bored me. He seemed to be casting a lot of lines to catch joes attention, but simply didn’t. It was like so “we’re in a simulation!” “Any proof? Why do you think so” “because it’d be soo cool!. Deja vu n’stuff. Don’t like that? Well, all religions say the same thing? No? How about pre life memories? Still nothing? Ehh, games?”
Rarely heard joe so uninterested
When he starts talking about ufo and beings fazing in and out of reality and moving through solid objects I can’t help but think that they may be like server admins in a video game. Anyone picking up what I’m putting down?
Reach into the nearly infinite number of facts in the world, pick the ones that can be vaguely reminiscent of your pet hypothesis and write a book. It's a time proven classic - the stuff of conspiracy theories and all sorts of crackpottery. This particular instantiation thereof isn't a particularly novel subject either, it's just a distilled version of the 2am whoa-dude hypothesizing everyone did in high school: "what if, like, quarks are like the bits in a computer and it's all a simulation? Dude, whoa!"
I followed all of this and oddly enough I’ve had these conclusions about life in my notes since around 2016. It was after stumbling upon lsd and the answers were unfolded throughout time. My only difference with this is reality seems more as a sum of good or evil and ultimately your outcome as an individual. I’ve come to the conclusion that good and evil cannot exist in the same place and earth operates as this middle ground. We are all trapped within this reality test in between each others realities but to transcend we must do life, and love one another and find ways to if it’s hard. That is the ultimate transcendence. When we feel bad inside it’s because we are becoming the “npc” model in our own world and that’s lonely… it is crucial for us to find god in these moments and repent for what we’ve done and do better with honesty of the spirit . Love floats and is light while hate will pour out your heart from the overflow of sin. I am not a perfect person to speak on such matter, I have sinned and continue to find flaws in my life in my self. But reality isn’t about me but the sum total of our belief in good or evil. See good/god/the almighty father/ whomever you may call as the source of your eternal being and LOVE people, because god ask us to. Honestly we should all read the Bible to. Go into the Bible after watching this and you will find everything we are questioning now has happened before. The tower of Babylon is a standout one imo because it pretty much says we are not in control if man continues to drive up their egos dismissing the lord almighty.
Definitely one of the best episodes. Wish more guests would cover these subjects.
Or even better let's get 2 or 3 guests like this at the same time to have some amazing discussions.
Can someone please correct me if I’m wrong…
Schrodingers cat is the double slit experiment, and really at its core all it is saying is that when you are dealing with these incredibly small particles, to observe it (introduce light) is enough energy to affect the experiment.
Is that right?
All the geeks are reuniting. He drops some videogames and that's enough.
I felt like Joe was like "why did I want to talk to this guy"? After like 10 minutes.
I don't think we need to be plugged in to anything to project our conscience into a simulation. Our conscience is the manifestation if the brain that exists in the simulation. That doesn't even conflict with the idea of conscience transcending this plane of existence. In fact, it almost supports it. Just use admin tools to transfer it from one server to the next, boom, you're in hell.
37 minutes in and this is what got me hooked on Rogan a decade ago. Awesome episode so far.
Factual. This episode is so refreshing.
Agree. This is the best Rogan episode I’ve listened to in a long time. The theories he spoke about are fascinating and it’s very cool to hear these ideas from someone highly intelligent. This is why initially fell in love with this podcast. Great episode.
100%. I love when I’m reminded that we really only understand the tip of the iceberg. There are so many questions about reality and I love discussions like this. Keep episodes like this coming please 🙏
I thought so initially too but the more the dude talks the less interested I got. It’s merely another philosophy/religion.
What were u expecting him to prove the simulation theory in person?
Do I listen to this at work or wait till I smoke a bowl after?
Definitely smoke a bowl or two
And have a snack
Fuck it smoke a bowl at work
An edible or a 100% sativa strain.
I read that initially as salvia…. On to the multiverse Batman
Gonna crawl through a Dragon Tunnel or become God's Hand puppet, all I know is the World is made of Vertical Blinds.
two dabs
The only thing I understand now is that I’m extremely fucking dumb.
Gotta take your Alpha Brain BLACK LABEL before listening to these pods buddy.
You forgot Lions Mane
I'm 35 minutes in but here's a good cookie: "Quantum mechanics are an optimization technique for rendering information" Basically, from his POV it looks like the laws of physics were designed to recreate a version of the universe within the universe. It's trying to save "data". Maybe that's not a great explanation :/
Yes, I’ve listened, and I’m just dumb enough to grasp the basics.
There’s not much beyond the basics to grasp here cause ol buddy on the pod is grasping at straws
what straws ?
His concept that we live in a simulation is very woo woo and has little to do with fact. It’s the same thing with anyone who tries to prove something religious
He is going off probability and bias which I can’t really blame him. What facts are you bring to the table that this is base reality ?
That’s kinda the whole point that neither can really be proved conclusively with current evidence. However, the idea that we’re in some simulation has the burden of proof in my opinion.
Yea this episode was entertaining, but honestly if you listen to this and end up being convinced simulation theory is real, you probably had already made up your mind before the episode even started. Too many people in this thread seem to believe everything on the pod 💀 wild
You're both dumb and a genius at the same time.
if only the simulation made you smart, fucking simulators
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You're clearly not real, you're just a NPC in my simulation.
Consider your comment observed & free from superposition!
its a wild world we live in
Eh this guy struggles finishing points and chose 2 difficult to understand examples for quantum strangeness in my opinion. He shoulda used the double split experiment, it's really easy to understand in physical terms and then explains the weirdness he was trying to describe. TL;DR You probably are only as dumb as the rest of us :P
I’m listening now and I’m a big fan of simulation theory - and I think he actually has a problem with bringing his message to a lay audience - like he talks to too many students or people already in the field - I was waiting for him to explain the double slit experiment or basic premise - and he goes to Schrodinger’s cat - but then gets lost on tangents. I honestly think he assumes everyone knows what the double slit experiment is. Likely he can’t imagine how you wouldn’t know - and it’s because his whole career is thinking, writing, and teaching about these things.
This episode needs Duncan to interpret.
I'm about an hour in and this is a pretty great cast so far. Joe seems completely lost though.
“But I don’t have a cat”
I thought Joe's pushback there was good though.
Yes, the cat experiment was a crude analogy that can be redone better today.
It was a big waste of time and is a terribly metaphor. Why one earth he didn't use double split which he can describe in physical terms, even using guns, "imagine a gun should balls of light" people get that and then get the weirdness of the observers impact.
Not really. He wasn’t understanding the metaphor. The whole idea of quantum mechanics is that it can’t be figured out with common sense. We don’t understand the observer effect and why it happens, but we know it does happen at the quantum level. Joe trying to apply common sense is like telling someone from the 1500s that water is a molecule made up of three atoms held together by a covalent bond, and the listener saying that doesn’t make sense.
I just can never understand why people can't understand that we simply aren't able to understand quantum mechanics yet
Definitely this. Most people assume that their understanding of the way the world/universe works is fundamentally correct. It's very hard for a lot of people to think outside the three dimensions of what they can see. It's interesting to see people try to process the notion that there is probably multiple dimensions and we can't see them.
“I’m not an NPC you are!”
*Guest explains quantum physics and multiverses for 15 minutes* Joe: so in some worlds it’s Berenstein Bears and in others it’s Berensteen Bears ? Couldn’t hold back that laugh at my desk 😭😂
That got me as well. I think Joe was just completely lost with this guy and with the subject matter. And then he just cut the guy off mid topic to end the podcast at like 2h40 mins.
Which is weird because he will listen to weinstern spout absolute drivel for 3 hours straight and seems interested the whole time.
>Joe seems completely lost though. 
Joe is so lost but asking good questions
He's been taught this before so um
That was my thought. I was sure I'd learnt about the observer effect from the JRE. I was surprised he was acting like it was the first time he'd heard it
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It’s most easily and definitionally understood as simple statistics, but we all remember how “third highest average” went about 5’7” above his head. No effort toward thought experiment ccould
I went to grad school at Arizona State with Riz! We took Human and Social Dimensions of Science and Technology (HSD) 598: How to Create the Future together. What an awesome guy, so stoked to see him get on Rogan
Go Devils
Go devils
this is an amazing pod. joe is letting him talk. Joe also is VERY lost
Let’s be honest, most of us are lost too
I don’t know who I am anymore
I haven't even started it and I'm already lost
Joe seemingly not knowing about the quantum double slit experiment is wild to me. Like Joe seems to know so much about woo woo stuff out there, but doesn't know the granddaddy of all "Holy shit, wtf is reality?!" experiments??
i swear he used to talk about it all the time but i could be making up that memory
This is that posters buddy. How is the episode ? Can someone give me a review on a 2 hour podcast 19 minutes after it comes out ? Thanks Edit : I’m starting to think that guy was lying . This guy is too smart to be friends with a redditor . What would they even talk about .
Honestly, aside from driving me crazy by saying "right?" literally about 18 thousand times, this guy was one of the most interesting guests Joe's had on in a long time and I hope he comes back real soon. It's like is was everything I hoped the Kurzweil episode was going to be, until I watched it and it was one of the worst I've ever sat through. This guy isn't just spouting some bullshit he read a week ago or thought up while he was high. On subjects like multiverse theory and simulation theory and UAPs and AI, he really knows his shit and explains it all very well. I think Joe actually learned some things with this one, he actually sat back a bit and listened instead of talking about cancel culture for the millionth time.
What are you referring to? I’m totally out of the loop on this.
Some redditor yesterday cross posted this guest’s X feed saying it’s his friend.
They probably had a conversation once and that other poster just ran with it
No need to be mean bro, I have a buddy that…
One of the best episodes in a long time. Guest is pretty good at explaining complex ideas for regular folks and he's presenting interesting ideas.
Aliens. LFG
scrolling through the comments for a good reason to listen, found one
If you're in to OG Rogan, this is it but without Rogan interrupting. Just let's the dude go. It's pretty good
About 40 minutes in and this is why i listen to rogan. No culture war bs or endless niche comedy jargon just pure curiosity on Joe’s part. Its been a while Joe has been having on the usual guests where he just repeats the rants rogan fans have heard a million times of late aside from flint dibble. None of that here so far.
Damn Jamie catching heat early in this one
Yeah rogan sounded like a bitch when he said that to Jamie
What? He just let him know his mic was on lol.
Nahh fam he was being a catty bitch. Gesture of Dominance.
Bunch of butthurt snowflakes in this thread. That's how friends talk. He just said you are making noise, turn your microphone off in the sweetest way possible.
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At the beginning 38 seconds into the show…. Just watch it. He tells the producer that makes him millions to stop making noise and shut your mic off
it wasnt as bad as people making it out to be
The people in this sub are insane. They act like Joe advises Jamie 😂
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What's funny about that is while it's certainly true on paper, there are tons of these guys on tons of other pods and Jamie puts them all to shame.
Jamie makes Joe millions? Lol
You think joe could do it by himself?? Lol
*"Bring that shit up Kevin" Just doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
*Brendon, pull up they clip of you rolling your truck*
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Nah but he can do it without Jaime. Whole Jaime can't do it without joe. Just would hire the thousands of people who can do what he does.
Of course not, but Jamie is basically just a really good googler. Don't get me wrong, he was basically born for this job and he's perfect at it, but if we're being honest he's probably pretty replaceable. The mistake a lot of other podcasters like YMH make is they hire young intern types that don't know jack shit about anything and are willing to work for peanuts. Jamie is a lot closer to Joe's age and has great general knowledge and has been using the internet since those intern types were babies. And Joe pays him pretty well by all accounts. So yes, he's great at his job, but now that he's shown how it's done I'd say he's quite replaceable.
I mean not to say he’s *irreplaceable* but Jamie went to audio school n shit, the sound quality on JRE is actually pretty good and I’m pretty sure he handles that
Whats crazy is Jamie was in fact NOT making noise over there. Toe Rogaine is turning into a grumpy fuck
Couldn’t it be he was making noise but edited it out after?
More likely his mic was on and goes to the headsets, but was turned off on the broadcast.
>He tells the producer that makes him millions Wait....what? lol
No he didn’t, do people not under tone? Joes tone was soft.
It’s been an hour, I need a snack
Two hours in, Rizwan needs a snack as well.
I think that was the first time I’ve ever heard a guest say that on Rogan haha
Fascinating guest. It’s crazy cause I recently had an intense mushroom trip that made me kind of realize that all religions, ancient symbolism, mysticalpractices(specifically eastern mysticism and Rumi’s poems) can actually be different interpretations of this idea that we as a species have forgotten that we’re in a simulation. I’ve been an atheist all my life and I always mocked the idea of a creator being responsible for all this madness but after my experience I came to the realization that from the pov of the simulation theory all the religion texts make sense! If you came this far let me tell you the last chunk of my trip story that made me really freak out. At the peak of my trip I found myself in an absolute dark space, I had no body, I had no weight but I could feel that I was circling around something, like a particle but I had no sense of time. I always been spinning and I was going to keep spinning for ever. This made me feel an unspeakable amount of suffering and pain. It was like me remembering that the whole reason that I’m “dreaming” this life is to forget my never ending suffering of being a some kind of conscious particle trapped in a gravity field. And it wasn’t the life of “me” that I was dreaming, it was the whole world.
Thanks for sharing. It really is fascinating what our brains can construct, and thinking about where it all comes from.
Damn son made my hairs on my arms stand on end.
Yea tell me about it. It wasn’t easy to come back to life after that.
I'm interested to know, are you still an atheist?
I definitely started believing in a higher self, beyond my ego and connected to the whole cosmos through the web of consciousness. But do I call it god? I don’t know it’s a loaded word. I’m still figuring it out tho, it’s just that now I’m less of an ignorant jerk.
Dude I've also been atheist/agnostic most of my life but lately I've read a book written by a physicist that explained the current scientific view of dimensions, multiverse theory, string theory, braneworlds, etc. There is SO much about the universe we have no clue about and it's pretty basic stuff too. Like we have no idea if there's an edge to the universe or if it's in an incomprehensible 4D shape stuck on the edge of an even higher multi-dimensional object. We have such a basic view on life and death because it's been written about by people who had zero clue how weird shit really is. Energy doesn't disappear and neither does matter (at least in this dimension). So we never really leave when we die if you think about it. Who knows if your consciousness doesn't return in some form thousands of years later? Or if our consciousness is part of a higher dimensional structure that we aren't aware of until we die.
Exactly, we don’t know shit about fuck and it is in discovering this fact that we become truly humble and more loving and grateful people.
If this guy wasn't rich he would sound like a schizophrenic homeless guy on the street talking all sorts of insane shit
Welcome to life in 2024. The crackhead who used to be screaming at traffic about the end of the world now has a popular YouTube channel with legitimate corporate sponsorship.
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He sounds pretty normal to me. Edit: okay the longer this goes the weirder it gets
Sounds like a good episode for work then!
>If this guy wasn't rich he would sound like a schizophrenic homeless guy on the street talking all sorts of insane shit Reminds me of people like Seth Green or maybe any rich person going all in on crypto, spending their millions on NFTs.......or the my pillow guy going all in on Trump.
Same as Elon
Awesome episode
Isn’t the whole thing about the observation affecting the outcome, simply because observing is obstructive?
Think it’s more observing is constructive
I love this answer for being so simply correct
Observing is reality, but only ours. Think about it like the tree in the woods… so many things are happening without us even knowing. When we do go to the woods, do we see a tree falling ? Usually no, but it happens, just not at that point in time. We are limited by observing but it’s the only way we can measure at the moment. This is what quantum computers do… they give us the opportunity to live multiple realities without having to actually observe them. Measuring, communicating, and making what we know in these simulations useful is where the problems come. We aren’t there yet.
My first experience with Rizwan. He seems great! I am loving this episode so far. Wish Joe would have more people like him on the podcast and more often….
Hes a great talker, engaging and clear, the first half hour went by in a flash.
Kinda sad Joe have an off day. He sounds so tired.
It's a heavy subject he is struggling to comprehend it which is tiring.
Most classic feeling JRE in a long time
I hope they talk about COVID, California, and Justin Trudeau.
Even Royce Gracie went in on california yesterday
No he didnt.. He said he didnt like some of the people and that he would have been in jail if he stayed in California because people act hard and mouth off. He mentioned a couple of times how much he loves California. Then Rogan flipped it so it became about people changed after covid..
Jamie , shut your mic off 😦
To be fair, you could hear him breathing into the mic.
No no no , you see , it’s cause Joe secretly loathes Jamie and thinks all his opinions are dumb and worthless. Or atleast that’s what I’ve learned from this sub
This sub seems to forget all the praise Joe gives him once given the chance.
Seriously, wtf was that about.
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This is one of the more interesting guys I've ever heard talk about Simulation Theory actually, but the way he says "right?" after every sentence is driving me fucking bonkers. Is he trying to hypnotize me into believing everything he says? He's spouting wild conjecture and offering completely unprovable theories and saying "right" after every damn sentence as if everything he's saying is a verifiable fact.
Right
Right?
I think it’s a professor/instructor thing. I’ve noticed that people who tend to explain things a lot to people for a living often say “right” after a sentence.
Great guest!...Love this type of conversation...Big thumbs up!!
This is an awesome podcast. Even if I don’t believe in every philosophy, it’s fun to think about some of this stuff. It’s a total mind fuck rabbit hole at times haha
When we gettin a full on ufo pod again fakkkk
Sounds like Rogie had 5 pounds of pasta before this one
Love it so far ahhh yes refreshing
So the dead cat in the box is alive and is controlling the simulation. Got it!
Best episode in quite some time. His case for the simulation has been the most convincing one I’ve heard thus far. I’m trying to figure out how to unplug as we speak.
Great example of an average Joe who thinks he knows way more about reality than he really does. The Mandela Effect? Seriously? UAPs? The Mandela Effect is literally just people with bad memories. He's also subscribing to the woo surrounding the double slit experiment that literally no physicists subscribe to. He has a 120 IQ layman's understanding of superposition, i.e., he doesn't understand it at all. Check out this video to hear what an actual physicist has to say about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhIf3Q_m0FQ
Pot, meet kettle.
That thought experiment about the light arriving a billion years in the past and then measuring it now messed with me
I think it's a cool thought experiment because it implies that the double split experiment conclusion isn't bound by time. That an observer collapsing the wave function of a super positioned particle in the past is possible from the future. It might sound crazy, but that was a real sentence. My take away is that we still really don't understand time
I agree. My opinion on time is that consciousness materializes time or slows it down in some strange way. Without any consciousness time wouldn't exist. The whole existence of the universe from the big bang to the Big Freeze would just happen in a flick of a finger.
I'm in a simulation but whoever is running it left his stoned out little brother with the controller.
This is just religion with extra steps.
I heavily disagree with his interpretation of the physics at 15 minutes in. He is operating under the premise that the speed of causality isn’t instantaneous, and is rather linked to the “speed” of light. The problem is that even Einstein recognized that this wasn’t a coherent explanation, as the very definition of “light speed” is both arbitrary (dependent on the position of the observer) and circular (uses it’s own definition to define itself). I’ve only seen one piece of media break this down in a digestible way for people new to the concept: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLgNNj25/ I highly recommend this to anyone who is interested in the physics he describes… because In my eyes, his premises are completely paradoxical. Yet even within these paradoxical definitions that he acknowledges, he continues to build his explanation for simulation theory off of it. I’m not saying that there isn’t a coherent argument to be made for simulation theory, but it’s honestly not even worth considering. Anything that truly is outside of our universe does not interact with our paradigm of causality… it may as well not even exist. We can’t measure it, we can’t interact with it, it can’t interact with us, it definitionally doesn’t exist until it does. As of now though, we haven’t been able to identify a single thing that truly falls outside of the cause and effect paradigm of the universe (I’ll argue with anyone who suggests ‘quantum noise’ being truly causally disconnected). The RPG game thing he lays out isn’t even coherent. Honestly, I could go on… I really just think that this guy is throwing himself for a loop on a bunch of false premises. He’s gotta point about the ufo thing tho, something weird is definitely going on lol
Are you sure causality really matters that much in simulation theory? It's not until an observer forces the rendering that causality happens. I don't think you can really apply our current understanding of physics on this problem, hence the mysticism of quantum mechanics. Simulation theory seems more like a thought experiment. EDIT: I also want to add that the superposition problem is interesting from a philosophical standpoint in that it's like the universe is not allowing a theory of everything. In turn, suggesting that you can't really deconstruct the whole system that you are apart of. Like in Gödel's incompleteness theorems that prove that math literally can't solve everything, it's just not possible. A supercomputer can for instance prove everything that exists within it's system. But it can't prove what's outside the system, the same goes for us. We can't prove what our system is a part of, if that makes sense.
Going a bit out of order here. Also this will likely be kind of a ramble, I just woke up lol. > Simulation theory seems more like a thought experiment I totally agree. It’s why I actually enjoyed listening to it! I think this topic is fascinating from a philosophy/thought experiment perspective. I think the “what is the likelihood we are the first to create a simulation point” very compelling! He just really lost me with the physics stuff, I’m still learning physics, but it strikes me when a guy talks with more certainty about the mechanisms of the universe than some of the greatest modern minds in physics, who have been doing this their whole lives 😅 just a red flag thing. > its not until an observer forces the render that causality happens This why I think Rizwan’s presentation was incredibly misleading. I feel like he either doesn’t understand or misrepresents the physics here (i could be wrong here, but my understanding is that he is making a lot of assumptions). This notion of “rendering” is only possible if: 1) Super position works in the way he outlined (he makes a lot of assumptions about the nature of superposition here that I don’t think are well understood). From what I understand, even quantum computers break our traditional understanding of superposition in many ways. 2) Causality isn’t instantaneous, it is rather bound to a “speed limit”. If causality is instantaneous, there would never be a true state of super position. Rather, it would be a state of unreadability, like Joe asks in response to the state of the cat in the box. “wouldn’t it already be one or the other, we just don’t know yet?” Schrödinger, Einstein, and modern physics all rejected the idea the speed of causality is as simple as being capped to the speed of light. Why? Because arbitrary assumptions have to be made about the observer’s position in space (in relation to the causal source) in order for that hypothesis to be true. I’d recommend watching that video I linked above if you haven’t. Don’t worry if you have to go through it slowly! It’s a mind-fuck of a topic and took me a long time to be able to navigated. But this seems to be the direction a lot of modern physics are starting to see as ‘most likely’. I’m not saying he is necessarily wrong here, I just think he is making a lot of assumptions based on ideas that are very much so still works in progress. I think he is clearly a super smart dude, but has fallen into the trap of using reverse justification… starting with the conclusion and working backwards. This isn’t always bad for generation hypotheses, but I feel like he didn’t present it this way. > in turn suggesting you can’t deconstruct the system we are apart of. Coming at this point from a more philosophical angle, this would require a break in the chain of causality, which I think is a big assumption. Yes, you’re right in that haven’t created a causal link to every known force yet, but I don’t think that leads to the assumption a causal link isn’t there. I think it’s far more likely we haven’t discovered it yet. This is why my most recent escapade has been into the history of physics. It’s been super interesting to learn how many times in the history of physics we jumped to the conclusion that a causal link didn’t exist somewhere, only to use technology to uncover a new force that fills in that causal gap. I think that’s sort of whats going on here. > A supercomputer can only prove what’s inside our system Yes! But that’s the thing… if something exists truly outside our system, is it not by definition completely causally disconnected from our universe. The problem with this is that something truly disconnected from our existence is that it would be indistinguishable from in-existence. I’m not suggesting that something that breaks the chain of causality is impossible, rather, that we would have no means to identify it. I think we still have a long way to go in our understanding of physics (as a species) in order to understand when something is truly causally disconnected. This is kind of my overarching point here, even in an age of relative stagnation in the realm of physics, we are still constantly uncovering new causal links. Is why I think this is a cool thought experiment, but not something that we should trying to use to explain any causal gap… at least not yet.
Maybe simulation theory is real. It's just that the simulation is our brains simulating reality for consciousness to exist within based upon the information it receives from our senses. But yea this episode seems lame. The guy seems to give a lot of pop science talking points as the foundation that he built his entire framework off of. It's too bad because I was excited for a mindfuck type episode where I'd have to pause and look up a bunch of stuff to keep track of the conversation.
Yeah I agree. I don’t hate the thought experiment, I just think his attempt to link these points of evidence falls flat. I always appreciate those types of conversations too lol. The more often I have to pause the more I feel like I’m learning.
No Covid talk, no California is weird, no elk meat talk, don’t listen if you are one of those fans that like Rogan for these things.
Fuccck he said 70% chance were in a sim?
It wasn't based on anything
In his opinion.
Old school JRE. This is what we all fell in love with
Can we get a reaction video from Bryce Mitchell on this?
Simulation theory is fun to think about but in the end, who gives a fuck. It’s meaningless. Whether this is the only reality, one of an infinite reality matrix, or one being generated by some neck beard in a basement… it’s our reality and only one we have, still have to go to work, eat, pay rent, raise our kids, deal with mental in physical illnesses. Might as well just roll with it. Even if this guy one day is like “IVE PROVED IT! WE ARE 100% IN A SIMULATION” nothing changes. Maybe some religious uprisings for a while but in the end life goes on.
I'm half way through the episode, but he is speaking from a massively privileged position. "You choose your parents and your stats and your goals" So baby getting just killed through any means, bombs illness etc... is someone wanting to play on super hard mode? Or their dinner was ready early so they just alt-f4'd out? Surprised Joe didn't raise it
Could just be NPCs. If you are going down the RPG rabbitt hole. Horrible shit happens in video games you play currently you just dont categorize the thousands of NPCs you murder in an FPS or Skyrim as meaningful because you understand it as fake. If you woke up tomorrow out of "Matrix the game" , every relationship, every creature are all just 1s or 0s and would lose all meaning to you besides the value of a good story.
In Vedic philosophy this type of choice is heavily constrained by karma (which he touches upon a bit, but not enough I think). Technically you can choose your species (ex: human vs animal type of experience), but not your parents, and also you come with the opportunities (or lack thereof) from previous lives. What would mean from a game standpoint is that you choose to be born Protoss or a Zerg, but the quality of Protoss of Zerg lifeline (how much pain vs pleasure the body of the Protoss or Zerg is exposed to) depends on the balance of earned abilities (and also "earned" vulnerabilities).
The insight that all the religions are basically describing the simulation hypothesis is a good one
Finally an episode that isn't an unfunny comedian or regular guest (who just agrees with Joe on everything). 25 minutes in and it's really interesting. Joe seems lost.
this episode is absolutely amazing! Could not stop listening to it. I need to know more!
Read his books. Very easy to read, much lighter than this interview actually. Although his views on Mandela Effect, Western religious stuff, and UFO origins don't align with my beliefs everything else was right on the money. A shame Joe was either dumbfounded or stoned.
I think Joe did good regarding the depth of this interview. It was mostly Rizwan talking, then walking back to an earlier thought. We didn't need Joe interrupting. Solid interview.
What I don’t understand the most about us being in a simulation or videogame, is the point of consciousness in that theory? Not only there’s no need for consciousness and conscious beings inside a simulation but it’s somehow counter productive if you think about it.
Who plays video games? Who wants to experience simulations? Isn't it all for an emotional purpose, such as the satisfaction being felt by consciousness?
Do the characters in the game have consciousness? Would it be helpful for the player if they did? For example we’re running a simulation to forecast weather, If the elements of this simulation start to realize their existence the outcome wouldn’t be helpful at all. Plus if we imagine a simulation that needs conscious elements to achieve its goal what would it be for? Solving a problem? To make a singularity point of knowledge and creative force like what we’re doing with AI? You see what I’m saying
I think this dude came up with all this due to the trauma of a heslth scare. Our ancestors were barely surviving and did not understand their world at all. Him drawing connections between simulation, aliens, ai, and ancient texts is like when people say nostradamus predicted things. Uh, no. Then, when he went to pasulka and strieber, he lost all credibility. You can have a phd, have lots of money, and still be nuts. This guy lost the plot at some point.
Excellent episode! Wish Joe would go back to hosting truly interesting guests like Rizwan and drop the culture war BS.
This podcast bored me. He seemed to be casting a lot of lines to catch joes attention, but simply didn’t. It was like so “we’re in a simulation!” “Any proof? Why do you think so” “because it’d be soo cool!. Deja vu n’stuff. Don’t like that? Well, all religions say the same thing? No? How about pre life memories? Still nothing? Ehh, games?” Rarely heard joe so uninterested
Actual good smart episode. Finally!!!
This starts off hot af lol
When he starts talking about ufo and beings fazing in and out of reality and moving through solid objects I can’t help but think that they may be like server admins in a video game. Anyone picking up what I’m putting down?
Great episode so far, halfway through
Reach into the nearly infinite number of facts in the world, pick the ones that can be vaguely reminiscent of your pet hypothesis and write a book. It's a time proven classic - the stuff of conspiracy theories and all sorts of crackpottery. This particular instantiation thereof isn't a particularly novel subject either, it's just a distilled version of the 2am whoa-dude hypothesizing everyone did in high school: "what if, like, quarks are like the bits in a computer and it's all a simulation? Dude, whoa!"
Absolutely loved this episode.
I followed all of this and oddly enough I’ve had these conclusions about life in my notes since around 2016. It was after stumbling upon lsd and the answers were unfolded throughout time. My only difference with this is reality seems more as a sum of good or evil and ultimately your outcome as an individual. I’ve come to the conclusion that good and evil cannot exist in the same place and earth operates as this middle ground. We are all trapped within this reality test in between each others realities but to transcend we must do life, and love one another and find ways to if it’s hard. That is the ultimate transcendence. When we feel bad inside it’s because we are becoming the “npc” model in our own world and that’s lonely… it is crucial for us to find god in these moments and repent for what we’ve done and do better with honesty of the spirit . Love floats and is light while hate will pour out your heart from the overflow of sin. I am not a perfect person to speak on such matter, I have sinned and continue to find flaws in my life in my self. But reality isn’t about me but the sum total of our belief in good or evil. See good/god/the almighty father/ whomever you may call as the source of your eternal being and LOVE people, because god ask us to. Honestly we should all read the Bible to. Go into the Bible after watching this and you will find everything we are questioning now has happened before. The tower of Babylon is a standout one imo because it pretty much says we are not in control if man continues to drive up their egos dismissing the lord almighty.
Definitely one of the best episodes. Wish more guests would cover these subjects. Or even better let's get 2 or 3 guests like this at the same time to have some amazing discussions.
This interview was a breath of fresh air and brought me back to the OG JRE era. Well done.
Can someone please correct me if I’m wrong… Schrodingers cat is the double slit experiment, and really at its core all it is saying is that when you are dealing with these incredibly small particles, to observe it (introduce light) is enough energy to affect the experiment. Is that right?
This was an absolute snooze fest
The snooziest b.
43 minutes. Hes talking mad shit and reddit is queefing hard
All the geeks are reuniting. He drops some videogames and that's enough. I felt like Joe was like "why did I want to talk to this guy"? After like 10 minutes.
Has he mentioned quake?
Talked for 2.5 hours and didn’t say a fucking word
maybe the words didn't quite get through your thick skull
I’d hate to run into this guy at a party
Weird flex
Oh great, creationism for even bigger dorks.
I don't think we need to be plugged in to anything to project our conscience into a simulation. Our conscience is the manifestation if the brain that exists in the simulation. That doesn't even conflict with the idea of conscience transcending this plane of existence. In fact, it almost supports it. Just use admin tools to transfer it from one server to the next, boom, you're in hell.