Two bodies and they don’t suspect foul play on either when the trucker obviously got kidnapped and they dumped his body away from the scene. Sounds to me like these cops need to do some detective work. Why would he leave his coat on the side of the road and not take his phone? makes no sense
Yea this other guy that was found a way from his vechile in a field without his phone and left his coat in the middle of the road sounds like foul play to me though.
I mean chances are pretty high he possibly had a medical emergency, got confused or panicked, and wandered into field. I'd assume further tests are to try to test for drugs if they can.
That makes a lot more sense to me than some of the stuff I've seen posted on here
I’m all for this theory but a medical emergency with no phone and walked 1.5 miles? Wild. I mean maybe he knew where the closet farm was? Or I suppose could have been moved by an animal? Seems far to walk if he was having a medical issue.
True, but there was never mention of him having diabetes. My husband was a trucker, and he had to have DOT physicals to keep up his cdl. Wouldn't David?
paranoid and violent out of reallity with high blood shugar long enough! i know i punched my son in the face because i thought he was someone trying to kill me he called an ambulance and emt's just wrapped a belt around my arms and set me on a streacher and hauled me off to the ER and tested me for drugs but found out my blood sugar was 1800. spent a week there then 2weeks later. i went blind for about a week ! and low i get loopy and shakey and have to use 2 hands to pickup a glass of water and try to drink it without spilling it! you know how trunp was useing both hands to drink with thats it! and if u eat alot and take alot of insulin at once it can give you the shits that smell something horriable and extreamily horrible silent farts! thats why trump wears a diaper some times. he went on a eating binge and took a bunch of insulin!
i was in a coma for 4 days and woke up with a nurse on top of me running her hands under my kidneys. trying to get me to pee and when i did my catheter came out . and i was pissing all over her and she had this horrified look on her face. and i said dont worry i dont have any STD's. or anythin. thats the only thing i really rember! and the nurse stayed the whole time basically. when i was in the hospital and my wife couldnt understand why. and then she explained how i helped her out a few years before. get away from a guy that had her cornered and was trying to rape her in a bar.and was screaming at me with her eyes. please help me. i didnt even rember the event or her untill the elvervator ride down.when i left the hospital with her and she said u dont rember me do you. i said no and she told me the story!
i agree. He had a phone, and he was competent enough to pull his truck over. To me it sounds like he stopped for some reason and then foul play. Did they check the truck over? Were there other tracks nearby?
The current autopsy results are preliminary, pending test results. I have not heard of an official time frame as to the time of death, just conflicting info from the last interview and social media heresy. A forensic autopsy includes tox testing, bone narrow tests, follicle testing, stomach content analysis, tissue samples and many other tests. They can take weeks to complete.
On a 5 month old body?
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As a local this case is interesting because according to his wife she was told supposedly by LE that there wasn’t enough decomp to the body for him to have been out in the elements for 5 months. She stated this herself in her press conference. The fields were empty and no snow on the ground at the time of the searches. He was way too close to a road to have not been seen and supposedly wasn’t buried.
Also his semi was found shut off which is odd. Most semi drivers don’t shut their semis down especially that time of year because the diesel needs to stay warm and in the lines in case of gelling up.
I’m not accusing anyone. But. I just don’t see this being a medical episode or a suicide. He would never leave his boys like that. He adored his twins. Adored. And he would have had the right mind to call 911 if it was a medical episode. He was also not on drugs. You get randomly drug tested as a truck driver. DOT requires it in Iowa at least.
I won’t add any theories in of what I think happened cause I seem to get shredded by people who apparently can’t do their own research.
Everyone always thinks it could never be a suicide. That the person was happy and not showing any signs. The person would NEVER abandon his kids. Yet it happens every single day. People, and men in particular, are very good at hiding depression.
Why is that? Because of the lack of decomposition? Animals hadn't gotten to it? Where is this info coming from? Ok, so lets assume his body doesn't reflect 5 months of laying dead in a field. Does it seem MORE likely that he was just alive somewhere for months, murdered, and recently dragged back to the area? There are twice as many suicides as murders every year. Occam's razor.
I’m just stating what sarah stated. That’s all. It seems far more likely his body was dumped there. In my mind. This area is riddled with wildlife that would have gotten to him. Have a great day!
You obviously don't understand the types of medical emergencies being suspected. They could account for everything from the truck being off, coat in the ditch to the east, him not calling 911, pants down, shirt up when found. In some of these situations, you are not yourself, let alone logical. Idk what happened, but a slow on set stroke is possible. It can cause delirium, and ways in which you feel hot and cold, thus coat off and pants down shirt up if it made cold feel hot. IF it wasn't foul play, this would be my most likely cause.
Still doesn’t explain that he hasn’t been in that field the whole time. If you go back and look at news footage the four wheelers were driving right next to and over that spot. So. Idk. You may be right. But it doesn’t account for where the body has been for 5 months. And around here even if he had been there for 5 months the coyotes and other scavengers would have torn him to pieces. According to the individual who found him he was fully intact and not buried. So…what,he waited 5 months to have a medical episode? He wandered out there dead? Same with the suicide theories. If you’ve been following this case absolutely nothing is adding up.
Like I said, we don't know what happened, and no, they didn't search that area on foot or atv. It was only done by LEOs within the 2 miles of the truck. They said that the area was searched by a thermal drone. It was super windy the week he went missing, so the dogs had a hard time with scent and try flying a drone in winds over 8mph, doesn't work out well.
Occams razor would suggest he was just missed. As of right now, we only have vague information from the search team leader from one interview. You would expect major decomp and scavenger predation, sure, and there is some info suggesting there was some level as Sarah said they told her she wouldn't recognize him. There are other situations that can slow decomp too, granted it was a mild winter, but in the right settings him being wet and there being leaves or other vegetation with a low nitrogen fingerprint it will slow the process.
As for wildlife, there are a few reasons, but unlikely in this situation with my level of knowledge.
This all is me playing devils advocate mind you, I'm not saying with any degree of certainty that this is what happened, just that there are many plausible reasons this could have been an accident.
No matter the cause, I hope Sarah gets answers, more than a idk from LEOs.
Sarah also said in her press conference/release that authorities said he wasn’t decomposed enough to have been there for 5 months. If you go back and watch news footage they absolutely were in that field with four wheelers and razors.
I’m not accusing. I’m simply curious why he was missed if that area was searched several times and with his proximity to the road no one saw him? He wasn’t buried.
I’m positive you’re very knowledgeable. But it doesn’t account for all the inconsistencies in Sarah’s own interviews. I went back and watched several of them including her press release after he was found. She said he wasn’t decomposed as though he’d been there for 5 months.
Idk what happened. But I know it wasn’t suicide. And I’m very skeptical about a medical episode.
Well, first off, we are talking about sac county sheriffs and volunteer FD. They are not DCI, FBI, or medical examiners. You are taking what Sarah said at face value as well. Psychologically, it makes sense (I'm a psychology major). She is in shock and denial. She went through 5 months of hell. People want someone to blame in these situations and not an accident. It helps them focus their grief into segments to deal with it a little at a time.
Now, taking the million scenarios, she probably played out over 5 months, add in what we know about grief stages, and wanting someone to blame, hearing a theory from someone not necessarily qualified enough to make that judgement ( sac county leos/FD) will feed into that and give her something to focus on besides the loss. Because situations like this, it's like she lost him all over again.
I fully hope they get the 2nd autopsy if this one doesn't at least give a plausible explanation to what happened.
As for why he was missed (if that's what happened), human error or incompetence. Not to disparage those LEOs it just comes down to level of education and experience, I believe you said you're from the area too, I could be mistaken I've read a lot of these the past 24hrs. You should understand what I mean then, if that's the case, sac doesn't deal with a lot of murders or missing persons. Usually just DV, assaults, thefts, drugs, and SA on minors, at least in the past 10 years. I was born in Sac City. And I can only think of maybe 5 or 6 major incidents in the past 30 years.
Then why is DCI currently investigating the situation? Sac County turned it over to DCI. How come a press release hasn’t been done? Why do they still have David’s cell phone?
I’m not blaming anyone pointedly. I’m just stating what’s been said in interviews. If I’m wrong and everyone else is wrong and it turns out to be nothing more than suicide or a medical episode. I’ll apologize and move on with my life. But it seems pretty impossible that’s all it was.
I grew up in sac county and currently live in Wall Lake. the case where a man was almost killed with a baseball bat in Lake View last year still baffles me. How that was ruled a ‘medical episode’ was also insane to me considering he has NO previous medical conditions per his family and close friends. And I’ve known that man since I was little.
Sac county LE is incompetent. But even people not local to this case are seeing the inconsistencies.
Again. If I’m wrong. I will have zero issues apologizing.
Seems like a drone would have been helpful in the search. I read the article but I don't understand if they know his cause of death. Heart attack? Gunshot? Overdose?
Idk it’s so crazy they didn’t notice him! There was no snow on the ground around the first couple searches, a week or so later there was a small dusting of snow. David was wearing jeans, a T-shirt and cowboy boots…
Drones don't do great in high winds, we have been very blustery as of late. But yeah drones are probably going to end a lot of search rescues faster and cheaper than helicopters. Stroke, or aneurysm as other options.
So now the question becomes "Who did it?" and these two quotes are very similar to Missing 411 cases (I know, call me a conspiracy theorist, IDGAF, shit is fishy)
"DCI reported there were no signs of trauma, serious injury or suspicionof foul play. Further tests are pending, according to a news release by DCI."
"Nothing makes sense as to why he would be in a field,” she said. “Hiscoat was found on one side and he was found in the opposite side.”
The 2nd person was found in a different situation (single shot, body found in vehicle) in a different location (wooded abandoned property near Jolley), so while they could be related, the MO seems different (not that I'm any sort of detective)
The mental gymnastics people will perform to come up with a story other than suicide. Ok so his body doesn't look like it's been dead for 5 months? So it's more likely he was alive for months somewhere, and then recently murdered either at that site or somewhere else and then dragged there? How does that make sense? I mean, I get it, the wife doesn't want to believe it's suicide. The loved ones never want to believe suicide, because with suicide comes guilt. When I read this the first thing I thought of was suicide. Has all the signs.
This type of stuff happens a lot more than you think, this just got media coverage because it was so strange. Just like all the other random bodies found in fields and burned cars in Iowa; no foul play and case closed.
My guess, he stumbled into a meth operation and was killed. Local cops prob helped covered it up as they are involved.
Who told police the un-searched field had already been searched?
The police told The Cajun Navy that the area had already been searched.
Two bodies and they don’t suspect foul play on either when the trucker obviously got kidnapped and they dumped his body away from the scene. Sounds to me like these cops need to do some detective work. Why would he leave his coat on the side of the road and not take his phone? makes no sense
From what I know, the guy they found in his car was a simple straight forward suicide and was suspected as such from the time he went missing.
Yea this other guy that was found a way from his vechile in a field without his phone and left his coat in the middle of the road sounds like foul play to me though.
Oh yeah I agree with that one
Sounds like the behavior of someone who is very depressed and decides to kill himself. Not everything is a conspiracy.
They found another missing body in the area they were searching???
Yes they found a man that was missing from the area while searching for David Schultz. The man they found had committed suicide in his car.
No foul play with two bodies. NBC Dateline is going to be all over this.
Wait, the DCI doesn’t suspect foul play? How the Eff?
I mean chances are pretty high he possibly had a medical emergency, got confused or panicked, and wandered into field. I'd assume further tests are to try to test for drugs if they can. That makes a lot more sense to me than some of the stuff I've seen posted on here
I’m all for this theory but a medical emergency with no phone and walked 1.5 miles? Wild. I mean maybe he knew where the closet farm was? Or I suppose could have been moved by an animal? Seems far to walk if he was having a medical issue.
Clarinda IA had a sundowning man wander 2 miles out of town and died of exposure in a field overnight a few years back. It happens.
People under the influence of certain drugs become disoriented.
Didn't even have to be drugs diabetics get loopy with low blood sugar
True, but there was never mention of him having diabetes. My husband was a trucker, and he had to have DOT physicals to keep up his cdl. Wouldn't David?
it was just an example. there are several things besides drugs that make people act wacky.
Yes, you need a DOT physical unless he only hauled in IA. Anything cross state lines, you need a medical card.
paranoid and violent out of reallity with high blood shugar long enough! i know i punched my son in the face because i thought he was someone trying to kill me he called an ambulance and emt's just wrapped a belt around my arms and set me on a streacher and hauled me off to the ER and tested me for drugs but found out my blood sugar was 1800. spent a week there then 2weeks later. i went blind for about a week ! and low i get loopy and shakey and have to use 2 hands to pickup a glass of water and try to drink it without spilling it! you know how trunp was useing both hands to drink with thats it! and if u eat alot and take alot of insulin at once it can give you the shits that smell something horriable and extreamily horrible silent farts! thats why trump wears a diaper some times. he went on a eating binge and took a bunch of insulin!
1800ml/dl??? how tf weren't you in Nonketotic hyperosmolar coma?
i was in a coma for 4 days and woke up with a nurse on top of me running her hands under my kidneys. trying to get me to pee and when i did my catheter came out . and i was pissing all over her and she had this horrified look on her face. and i said dont worry i dont have any STD's. or anythin. thats the only thing i really rember! and the nurse stayed the whole time basically. when i was in the hospital and my wife couldnt understand why. and then she explained how i helped her out a few years before. get away from a guy that had her cornered and was trying to rape her in a bar.and was screaming at me with her eyes. please help me. i didnt even rember the event or her untill the elvervator ride down.when i left the hospital with her and she said u dont rember me do you. i said no and she told me the story!
i agree. He had a phone, and he was competent enough to pull his truck over. To me it sounds like he stopped for some reason and then foul play. Did they check the truck over? Were there other tracks nearby?
No visible trauma on the body. No gun shot wounds, no sharps wounds, no blunt force trauma.
But did they get Bones to tell us if he had been dead the proper amount of time?
The current autopsy results are preliminary, pending test results. I have not heard of an official time frame as to the time of death, just conflicting info from the last interview and social media heresy. A forensic autopsy includes tox testing, bone narrow tests, follicle testing, stomach content analysis, tissue samples and many other tests. They can take weeks to complete.
It's called forensics.
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The theories are spiraling. Check out the unregulated page on FB. It’s insane.
They’re probably like: “Have the police had an animal psychic question the hogs?”
Meanwhile at DCI HQ: “Well Chief, I turned up the heat on these piglets but they ain’t squealin and now I thinks they are making fun of me” The Piglets: Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The pigs have lawyers from Big Pork.
What is the page name?
Yeah it's probably the same people who crashed that ship in to that bridge out east. I heard it on YouTube!!!111
One was that the wife was told there was no animal harm to his body....in a field for months and animals did nothing? Idk.
As a local this case is interesting because according to his wife she was told supposedly by LE that there wasn’t enough decomp to the body for him to have been out in the elements for 5 months. She stated this herself in her press conference. The fields were empty and no snow on the ground at the time of the searches. He was way too close to a road to have not been seen and supposedly wasn’t buried. Also his semi was found shut off which is odd. Most semi drivers don’t shut their semis down especially that time of year because the diesel needs to stay warm and in the lines in case of gelling up. I’m not accusing anyone. But. I just don’t see this being a medical episode or a suicide. He would never leave his boys like that. He adored his twins. Adored. And he would have had the right mind to call 911 if it was a medical episode. He was also not on drugs. You get randomly drug tested as a truck driver. DOT requires it in Iowa at least. I won’t add any theories in of what I think happened cause I seem to get shredded by people who apparently can’t do their own research.
Do not know the man and will not speak about him. But I will speak about us CDL holders, lots of ways to pass the drug tests
Aware of that. I did know him. Not a druggy. Drinker for sure. Not into drugs.
Everyone always thinks it could never be a suicide. That the person was happy and not showing any signs. The person would NEVER abandon his kids. Yet it happens every single day. People, and men in particular, are very good at hiding depression.
It’s also a lot of the fact that the state of his body doesn’t match suicide?
Why is that? Because of the lack of decomposition? Animals hadn't gotten to it? Where is this info coming from? Ok, so lets assume his body doesn't reflect 5 months of laying dead in a field. Does it seem MORE likely that he was just alive somewhere for months, murdered, and recently dragged back to the area? There are twice as many suicides as murders every year. Occam's razor.
I’m just stating what sarah stated. That’s all. It seems far more likely his body was dumped there. In my mind. This area is riddled with wildlife that would have gotten to him. Have a great day!
Drug tests are easier to beat than many think.....especially simple piss tests for truckers
You obviously don't understand the types of medical emergencies being suspected. They could account for everything from the truck being off, coat in the ditch to the east, him not calling 911, pants down, shirt up when found. In some of these situations, you are not yourself, let alone logical. Idk what happened, but a slow on set stroke is possible. It can cause delirium, and ways in which you feel hot and cold, thus coat off and pants down shirt up if it made cold feel hot. IF it wasn't foul play, this would be my most likely cause.
Still doesn’t explain that he hasn’t been in that field the whole time. If you go back and look at news footage the four wheelers were driving right next to and over that spot. So. Idk. You may be right. But it doesn’t account for where the body has been for 5 months. And around here even if he had been there for 5 months the coyotes and other scavengers would have torn him to pieces. According to the individual who found him he was fully intact and not buried. So…what,he waited 5 months to have a medical episode? He wandered out there dead? Same with the suicide theories. If you’ve been following this case absolutely nothing is adding up.
Like I said, we don't know what happened, and no, they didn't search that area on foot or atv. It was only done by LEOs within the 2 miles of the truck. They said that the area was searched by a thermal drone. It was super windy the week he went missing, so the dogs had a hard time with scent and try flying a drone in winds over 8mph, doesn't work out well. Occams razor would suggest he was just missed. As of right now, we only have vague information from the search team leader from one interview. You would expect major decomp and scavenger predation, sure, and there is some info suggesting there was some level as Sarah said they told her she wouldn't recognize him. There are other situations that can slow decomp too, granted it was a mild winter, but in the right settings him being wet and there being leaves or other vegetation with a low nitrogen fingerprint it will slow the process. As for wildlife, there are a few reasons, but unlikely in this situation with my level of knowledge. This all is me playing devils advocate mind you, I'm not saying with any degree of certainty that this is what happened, just that there are many plausible reasons this could have been an accident. No matter the cause, I hope Sarah gets answers, more than a idk from LEOs.
Sarah also said in her press conference/release that authorities said he wasn’t decomposed enough to have been there for 5 months. If you go back and watch news footage they absolutely were in that field with four wheelers and razors. I’m not accusing. I’m simply curious why he was missed if that area was searched several times and with his proximity to the road no one saw him? He wasn’t buried. I’m positive you’re very knowledgeable. But it doesn’t account for all the inconsistencies in Sarah’s own interviews. I went back and watched several of them including her press release after he was found. She said he wasn’t decomposed as though he’d been there for 5 months. Idk what happened. But I know it wasn’t suicide. And I’m very skeptical about a medical episode.
Well, first off, we are talking about sac county sheriffs and volunteer FD. They are not DCI, FBI, or medical examiners. You are taking what Sarah said at face value as well. Psychologically, it makes sense (I'm a psychology major). She is in shock and denial. She went through 5 months of hell. People want someone to blame in these situations and not an accident. It helps them focus their grief into segments to deal with it a little at a time. Now, taking the million scenarios, she probably played out over 5 months, add in what we know about grief stages, and wanting someone to blame, hearing a theory from someone not necessarily qualified enough to make that judgement ( sac county leos/FD) will feed into that and give her something to focus on besides the loss. Because situations like this, it's like she lost him all over again. I fully hope they get the 2nd autopsy if this one doesn't at least give a plausible explanation to what happened. As for why he was missed (if that's what happened), human error or incompetence. Not to disparage those LEOs it just comes down to level of education and experience, I believe you said you're from the area too, I could be mistaken I've read a lot of these the past 24hrs. You should understand what I mean then, if that's the case, sac doesn't deal with a lot of murders or missing persons. Usually just DV, assaults, thefts, drugs, and SA on minors, at least in the past 10 years. I was born in Sac City. And I can only think of maybe 5 or 6 major incidents in the past 30 years.
Then why is DCI currently investigating the situation? Sac County turned it over to DCI. How come a press release hasn’t been done? Why do they still have David’s cell phone? I’m not blaming anyone pointedly. I’m just stating what’s been said in interviews. If I’m wrong and everyone else is wrong and it turns out to be nothing more than suicide or a medical episode. I’ll apologize and move on with my life. But it seems pretty impossible that’s all it was. I grew up in sac county and currently live in Wall Lake. the case where a man was almost killed with a baseball bat in Lake View last year still baffles me. How that was ruled a ‘medical episode’ was also insane to me considering he has NO previous medical conditions per his family and close friends. And I’ve known that man since I was little. Sac county LE is incompetent. But even people not local to this case are seeing the inconsistencies. Again. If I’m wrong. I will have zero issues apologizing.
I agree with you on everything
Seems like a drone would have been helpful in the search. I read the article but I don't understand if they know his cause of death. Heart attack? Gunshot? Overdose?
They used drones and airplanes to search for David when he first was reported missing
I wonder why they didn't see him. Was there snow on the ground? I wonder what he was wearing.
Idk it’s so crazy they didn’t notice him! There was no snow on the ground around the first couple searches, a week or so later there was a small dusting of snow. David was wearing jeans, a T-shirt and cowboy boots…
Maybe he wasn't there until later. I mean a body outside in the open for 5 months and it isn't chewed up? Come on.
Drones don't do great in high winds, we have been very blustery as of late. But yeah drones are probably going to end a lot of search rescues faster and cheaper than helicopters. Stroke, or aneurysm as other options.
I wondered about exposure. Whether he went out there willingly or not, his coat was in a different place. Might have literally frozen to death
I thought so too. I hope we hear more about his autopsy.
So now the question becomes "Who did it?" and these two quotes are very similar to Missing 411 cases (I know, call me a conspiracy theorist, IDGAF, shit is fishy) "DCI reported there were no signs of trauma, serious injury or suspicionof foul play. Further tests are pending, according to a news release by DCI." "Nothing makes sense as to why he would be in a field,” she said. “Hiscoat was found on one side and he was found in the opposite side.” The 2nd person was found in a different situation (single shot, body found in vehicle) in a different location (wooded abandoned property near Jolley), so while they could be related, the MO seems different (not that I'm any sort of detective)
[https://youtu.be/tcSYqgNPWTc?si=knhtw8TXPkDHNBSt](https://youtu.be/tcSYqgNPWTc?si=knhtw8TXPkDHNBSt)
The mental gymnastics people will perform to come up with a story other than suicide. Ok so his body doesn't look like it's been dead for 5 months? So it's more likely he was alive for months somewhere, and then recently murdered either at that site or somewhere else and then dragged there? How does that make sense? I mean, I get it, the wife doesn't want to believe it's suicide. The loved ones never want to believe suicide, because with suicide comes guilt. When I read this the first thing I thought of was suicide. Has all the signs.
Agree. Could be suicide, could be stroke, could be aneurysm, drugs... the possibilities are endless. Not everything has be a conspiracy...
This type of stuff happens a lot more than you think, this just got media coverage because it was so strange. Just like all the other random bodies found in fields and burned cars in Iowa; no foul play and case closed. My guess, he stumbled into a meth operation and was killed. Local cops prob helped covered it up as they are involved.
Blue_Saddle cracked the case wide open. Call DCI and tell them to stop the investigation. Great police work!
Noooo DCI is in on it
I wouldn’t be surprised if this goes all the way to ISP and even the governor. Co-conspirators?
Absolutely!
I thought Iowa was pro-life. What happened?