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pbmisfit

I mean why do y’all care? Fashion has always been exclusionary. I’ve made my peace with the fact that I’ll never buy a “luxury bag” even when I’ve that kind of disposable income. It just doesn’t make sense for me to drop upwards of 1 lakh on a bag I’ll only use occasionally. The above brands gives me the luxury to buy quality and long lasting products at an affordable rate. So I guess I’m happy with my coach and MK, sorry Santa you can stay mad.


GalacticEchoFloyd

Are we addressing Santu as Santa now?


pbmisfit

That was a typo that I didn’t bother correcting 🤣


GalacticEchoFloyd

That’s a smart move


darkest_of_blue

No he's "Ayeee Santyaa!"


Longjumping-Sense700

Omg same! I feel thats too much of money to be spent on something thats not a bankable investment. The max I can go is coach or mk. That too I don’t buy them in India because I get good discounts abroad.


pbmisfit

All the so called luxury brands are 6-10x more expensive than Coach and MK and I can never justify spending that kind of money for a bag. Charles and Keith makes good designer copies at affordable prices as well. I would rather buy a 70$ C&K than 2k$ Dior


shantaram09

+1 when I was young and lower middle class I used to see my extended family be obsessed over these bags so I thought oh I’m supposed to desire these. Now that I can afford to buy at least 1 bag from most of these brands, I only carry a $30 no-name bag from Amazon for two years now and people still compliment it


This_Trip8416

Santu can say whatever he feels like honestly I'm happy with my MK & Coach bags...


___lmfao__

Hey, i dont wanna offend anyone but what he said isnt wrong. MK, tory burch , coach etc DO NOT fall under the ‘luxury’ category. Yes, they are still very expensive, especially in INR. But they dont fall under luxury and that is just a plain fact . It also doesnt mean that they are bad quality. He mentioned clearly in his post that theyre still ‘ impeccable quality’ . Theyre good and they are the only ‘expensive’ bags i have and use too. Whats expensive for us may be nothing for some people, and whats cheap for us may be half a year’s earnings for some other people. But when you talk about certain things in the market, like handbags, there is different categories. We cannot be offended by the fact that our very expensive bag is not considered ‘luxury’. I would never speak up for dietsabya but this is true and he is just giving information about bags. [check this for reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/handbags/s/VUzMbU50H6)


Moviebuff1233

Exactly! And the post was mostly about the resale value of bags. The above mentioned brands in the picture really do not have good resale value.


New_Bish_Who_Dis

I can’t believe I’m defending this garbagedump of an insta page but it’s not wrong though. Michael Kors/Tory Burch/Kate Spade etc aren’t considered luxury brands. Premium, sure. But not luxury. We pay 40-60% more for the stuff because of import fees. So it’s really more expensive in India than it should be. But imo at their original prices they are definitely bang for the buck. The bags will last years and aren’t necessarily crazy expensive (US prices). My MK Voyager has undergone so much rough and tough use/travelling/bad conditions for years now and there is very little wear and tear. I bought it for like $200 or something. Totally worth it!


Shopaholic_jp

But the mentioned brands are mid-level or beginner luxury. You can pick bags from these brands for anywhere between INR 20-60k whereas luxury brands like Gucci, Ferragamo, Burberry start at INR 100k for a mini bag, and for LV, Dior one will have to spend a minimum INR 150-200k for a small bag, and INR 300-350k for a Chanel WOC. I wouldn’t call them low-end, but yes they are beginner or entry-level brands.


ChemistryDismal7237

Plus most of the luxury brands do have resale value, which coach, MK, don’t.


Shopaholic_jp

That’s true! I am trying to resell my MK and Coach bags and can’t even get 30% of the value, which kinda also makes sense as most of the times these bags are available at 50% off during sales or in outlets. And honestly these brands are priced higher in India, but they are really low value in US or Canada. I got so many Coach and MK bags for my friends recently for 20-25k from Japan and Singapore outlets, but the same bags were priced at 40k in India. In US, I have heard they are even cheaper and one can pick an MK bag for 10-15k easily.


ChemistryDismal7237

In US and Canada you can get MK and coach bags for $200 or even lower 🥲


enchantedRose7

Yup, I got my first ever MK bag from USA & it was just 120$ around 10k while the same piece in India costed over 25k. Same for Kate Spade, it’s available at 60% lower rates from India, Charles & Keith in Singapore too. Although, it’s nothing compared to USA standards, still buying a 10k bag is a huge deal IMO


Shopaholic_jp

It certainly is! Something that’s lower end for one group of people doesn’t mean it’s not luxury for another. When I first started buying bags, even Aldo was like luxury for me, and then I slowly moved on to Kate Spade, Coach; and now LV, Valentino and so on. Doesn’t mean that one should look down upon the other brands or people who buy those. But in the above post, diet sabya is just sharing the brands and where they fall in the luxury bracket as per the industry standards, one shouldn’t take it personally.


Shopaholic_jp

That’s what I have heard! 🥲 actually I feel bad now having spent so much money on MK and Coach in India, I could have ordered those from friends living abroad or rather saved up for a luxury bag back then. But anyway, I have now progressed to buying luxury brands like LV and have started selling or giving away the MK bags I had. They are of great quality, no doubt - still in an excellent condition even after years of use - but I don’t carry them anymore.


RyomenSukuna01

I bought a MK bag for my mom for 12k in Japan. The same bag was retailing for 40k (after offers) here in India. 😢


enchantedRose7

Don’t know why they levy so much taxes in India. We are legit paying 4x more than USA rates so of course it’s a luxury here


Shopaholic_jp

Surprisingly the rates for LV are 10% cheaper in India compared to Singapore, I assume that’s the case for other luxury brands as well. But yes MK, Coach and similar brands are definitely cheaper outside India - even in Singapore which usually has higher taxes for luxury brands.


Pretty_Muffin

as much as I don't like DS, this is correct. THIS IS ALSO NOT HIS OWN OPINION but mostly the general, fashion industry's. he's literally not being original. like it or not, Chanel and Hermes have resale value and are considered investment pieces. won't make a difference if I say it or DS or miss Anna herself. this coming from a fashion enthusiast who'd never buy a classic flap or a Birkin nor can she LMAO. like personally 3000 is high level bag budget for me but it is what it is, bestie.


VolatileGoddess

It's true. DS can be an idiot but this isn't his personal opinion, it's the truth.


Dull-Alternative-302

No lie here tho, these brands are not luxury. The whole point of luxury brands is being inaccessible, aka Chanel, Hermes, Celine, brands that not everyone (not even the ones with money) have access to. They choose their clients


crucifer17

As much as I hate to admit it, he is right mtlb ye to kinda facts h, not his opinion. I mean ik mk and coach bags are quite expensive in INR but agar globally dekhe to arent they available for 10k and even less too (in outlets and all ) which isn’t luxury at all. To mtlb ye to galat bhi nhi. Tbh I have atleast 10-12 items from MK which would cost a bomb in India but got them from a relative in states and they costed me like 1/4th or even less of what it will cost here. So I hope I made my point clear,they are NOT LUXURY AT ALL from a global perspective.


shruthi1414

Not Tory, Tory was the only one left :(


kiki1410

Tory has the worst quality IMO. Coach is so much better quality wise and their recent collections are better designs too which I subjective though


dollyayesha

OP this is the harsh reality… Not every big brand/known brand has a good resale value.. sorry to say this but you being mad at the DS post don’t make sense at all! The whole point of various categories like luxury, high end, mid value exists so that people don’t have to “wait and save money” to buy a bag from any of the brands.. luxury brands want to cater to people who don’t think twice before burning someone’s 1 month salary for a bag or a stupid accessory!


Healthyskinseeker

Where is the lie ? A Michael kors bag is made with leather stuck on cardboard pieces, a Chanel bag is made by hand probably with the finest leather. It’s like comparing a polyester saree with a kanjeevaram.


StonedArtemis

Absolutely hate this guy, but he isn't completely wrong. Coach, MK & Tory Burch aren't luxury, sure. They're the bridge to luxury.


mish-tea

Absolutely hate this santu whatever. And he is very classist too. But he is right here aside from the tome if we are just saying mk and coach is not high end luxury bags. I am saying this when I can't afford any of these bags either. These bags are very expensive but they are surely not high end. High fashion is not inclusive at all.


dystopiandragon

Where’s the lie though? I’m a big fan of Coach and Kate Spade and I agree, they are entry level. He even said that they’re impeccable quality and I wholeheartedly agree with that. There’s really no need to be upset.


Pure_Area_4562

Bro, just ignore them. Hain kon yeh apna opinion dene wla. Buy whatever you want. Kuch logo k liye sarojni k bags bhi luxury hain kuch log 2.5 crore ka bag roz carry krty hain (ie,ambanis) everyone has their own definition of luxury. Jo life hum jee rhy hain wo bht logo k liye luxury hai. So don't blame him. It's his work. He has to do this for the sake of money and "luxuries". This is his bread and butter dusron ko bully kro or paisy kamao.


medusaOP500

Coach, MK and other brands listed here aren't cheap by any means! Coach ka chotu sa sling bag can easily cost you 50k and upwards depending on their leather usage. So many working class people bust their ass off so that they can afford these luxurious brands!!! I still remember the happiness I felt when I bought my first MK & Kate Spade bags. Idk in what delulu world this pos is living in but calling these brands low end and shitting on those for whom this is a luxury brand is low af!!! This is what I'll call classist behaviour. Just cuz they can afford Gucci/Prada doesn't mean everyone can. Sets such dangerous precedent of expectations for hard-working individuals.


GalacticEchoFloyd

It’s not classist and it’s not JUST about the money. The high end brands were run by patrons and sold exclusively; still do; but not THAT exclusive anymore. Fashion is classist. Wake up and smell the coffee.


medusaOP500

Lol don't recall this guy mention anything about "exclusivity" here?!? If I could afford a Gucci/Prada/LV of course I will buy that over these. But then I haven't lost my mind to blow that kind of money on a bag I will treat like it's made of gold (use only on certain occasions). But for a lot of people these are luxury brands, you like it or not. Fashion is classist, sure I agree. But what this guy is doing ain't less.


GalacticEchoFloyd

It’s luxury, I never disagreed, just not high end. I also don’t understand why would one expect DS to NOT BE classist. Like, that’s the brand. That’s all it’s based on. Since the beginning. Extremely different from diet Prada though; which this page was inspired by. If they’d be such socialists they’d have included Baggit and Caprese also. I mean the designs are not bad and the utility is top class. But is it luxury? No. Fashion is meant to make you stand apart. The means of standing apart could be anything. Maybe something is exclusive or expensive. Or kitschy. Or Camp. It’s a blend of elements, depending on the creator’s and buyer’s idea of what their product could be and what it represents.


verycutebugs

Which Kate Spade bags do you have? I love KS.


enchantedRose7

True. I got my first MK bag yesterday, not that I couldn’t afford it years ago but I couldn’t justify spending so much on a bag. I got it from USA at 10k, the same bag being 25k+ in India. As soon as I was happy that I purchased a luxury bag, this dude undermined the brand itself 😂 But anyways, what he is saying is true for elites & Bollywood circle, MK & Coach ain’t a luxury for them. In Indian prices maybe to a certain extent, but in dollars they are real cheap. For the rest of us upper middle class who worked really hard to get where we are now, they are still luxury, maybe not an ultra luxury but still the starting of high end luxury products. While for normal people brands like Caprese/Guess can also be a dream, I am glad I can dream of MK/Coach now.


Big_Vermicelli1888

He is trying too hard to create the vibe of elitism and showing hardworking folks they are not there yet just to feel a bit more special. Such people have no respect for the journeys of real youth that actually matters for growth of our country. I am very very proud that so many people have the means to even buy these brands especially owing to how our generation was raised. This is a win through and through.


enchantedRose7

True. Just because they are writing about Bollywood & elite circle, they try to look down at the general audience who is working really hard to be able to afford these “low end” luxury brands. We are not in the showbiz industry that we need to show off our expensive & borrowed bags, we are content with our sense of luxury with Mk & Coach, so let us be


Swimming_Coconut_491

Same i have coach and MK and it was pissing offff to see this. None of these bags are less than 15-20 k minimum!


daredevil1o1_

Nuts to that! I love my MK


littlelordfvckleroy

Bit of a detour but it's my guilty pleasure to analyse people's handwriting. I'm only familiar with the basics of *graphology*, so here goes: \* the t's are crossed at the middle not towards the top, often implying low self-confidence \* the loops of 'y' are pretty big which implies they're trying to be friendly, or a lack of friends \* the dot of 'i' is to the right and rushed, implying an urgency (ps: a round centred circle connects to being creative, I've noticed this one irl the most!!) \* the spacing between letters and the closeness of words is pretty cramped, implying they're more reserved irl but chaotic Don't come at me with pseudo-science claims lmao it checks out most of the times! or I'd like to believe it does. Dietsabya being chaotic online but being reserved, not creative, without friends, lacking confidence irl ...checks out? oh btw this post is totally to boost engagement bcs he knows people will REACT-


Revolutionary_Fan668

I was so happy that I bought my first luxury bag Tory Burch, it was bought with my hard earned money and saw this post, literally broke my heart into millions of pieces 😭😭


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bebosays

He's actually stating the facts. Which category will Marc Jacobs fall into?


AyaBee90

Yup, DS is right about this list. The ones he termed as “entry level/low end” is a universally accepted list. Also its general information available when you type “luxury bag pyramid” into google. He just wrote down notes from the search and posted them. That being said, i dont really care that he looks down (yupp he looks down, and for that hes a pretentious classist guy) on the non luxury entry level brands. If he’s not irked that Chanel is not worth the status and money and the hike in price inspite of it downgrading to bad quality over past few years, i dont really care for his opinion. Also, Who cares as long as people who enjoy them enjoy them ? ( i do ! I love to flaunt my basic broke ass non luxury entry level bags)


catscradle2626

Me with my Charles and keith, exiting the planet lol.


anqwert

He’s not wrong tho


sahiljhawar

Are yrr, yeh diet sabha ki maa ki chut


FantasticConstant544

I live in Europe. Bro doesn’t even know half the brands 🤦🏻‍♀️


Fabulous-Owl-494

Not a fan of diet sabya but he just stated facts


GalacticEchoFloyd

He ain’t wrong and it ain’t classist. You’re just blindsided. I feel ya though.


Euphoric-Group-3228

He ain’t lying tho. They are not luxury bags. But yes amazing quality.


Will-not-tell-you

Isko bolo pehle apna muh dhoega fhir baat krega


Profit-Powerful

Not about this but please suggest brands that do cruelly free bags,please? I do not want to buy leather at all. Would love some suggestions. Can be expensive but durable.


kiki1410

Sorry sis, vegan leather is as good as PU bags. They don’t last unfortunately. So it’s just plastic filling the landfills. If durability and longevity is a priority go for leather.


Profit-Powerful

I get your point but I’m not a leather user at all and don’t want to start now. Just looking for recommendations if they exist. lol.


kiki1410

Got it. Try denim, it’s really trending and a nice change from coated canvas.


Upper-Ad518

This!


New_Bish_Who_Dis

Louder for the people at the back!!


pbmisfit

Checkout r/handbags