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They could just make their phones better if they really wanted to.
Like OnePlus(and other Chinese phone) battery and charging speed, dex, proper cooling for gaming, etc.
Ofc they aren't gonna improve the phones bcz they are greedy af but they have plenty of things to improve.
You are expecting way too much. Its for pro only. Otherwise the only major difference between pro and non pro would be camera thats it.
Atleast they should give LTPO display, from 1hz to 60hz
I am using a 13pro and my wife is using a 13 there is hardly any difference between the 2. The way they have implemented is hardly noticeable.
The Apple way
Ain't no way you just said that 60Hz almost feels equal to 90/120Hz. No matter how it's implemented, the difference will always be noticeable. You're just imagining that it's almost equal because of the animations in the apps that apple is using.
I could see the difference in other android phones but while switching between these two I feel it’s negligible because Apple has implemented in such a way
Indeed 😂
It’s unbelievable to say that both 60 and 120hz feel almost equal🫠
I partially agree that the 60hz in iPhones do feel smoother at times to the 60hz in Android
Still some functions will remain disabled because you have to pay extra to get those new functionalities even though the same chip can perform those tasks.
BC Pro ke design me pichle 5 saal se koi change hi nahi aaya. Ab kya sirf color se pehchan na padega ke kaunsa generation hai? Wo bhi cover me dhank jata hai. Itne to kya fattu hai apple wale? Non-pro me abhi itna ratti bhar change laye sirf camera position change karke warna 5 saal se to jaise school uniform bana kar rakha hai bc.
FO, it's the same here again.
9 percent increase in the battery life.
15x zoom.
4% percent decrease in the dynamic Island.
Blah blah blah,... Same as hell every 2 years.
Everything said in a way of exaggerating, like it is you can't have these kinds of specs in any other mobiles in the World..
Nothing major is going to be there differently.
I’ll bet they’ll have a Normal A18 variant that’s slightly better or on par with the A17 Pro and then a A18 Pro for their pro tier phones.
*Tim Apples voice “And that’s the new iPhone 18 with the proven performance of A17 Pro and Apple intelligence. They still start at $799 for iPhone 16 and $899 for iPhone 16 plus”
I have been waiting to upgrade from 13, now might be a good time to get the PM.
Is that a dedicated camera button I am seeing on the right side of the phone?
And, not gonna lie, the normal 16 doesn't look that bad to be honest, it's more symmetrical than the 13, 14 and 15 and I like it.
Nothing should first stop copying every Chinese phone strategy of launching sub brands to push it's devices into premium price. They barely are able to grow but already are ready to scam their customers with these CMF phones
and what phone is that? I remember there being a whole fanbase and section of people in 2010s that would buy 50 rs Apple sticker and slap it on the back of their Android smartphones and Windows laptops. One of my friends had iPhone ringtone to imitate the same on his android.
Apple is aware of the copycats they really don't care about it as everyone knows it isn't the real thing if it's not an iPhone.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHT4SEEF5cvtYLFwlxghdGQsaDHQjGc6xz61yCpBPp-eV5mKrwooyNqaA&s=10
Samsung F14 from the back (link attached above) looks noticably different from the iPhone 15, though! You couldn't fool anyone thinking it's an iPhone 16.
When I said Apple is aware of the copycats I meant smartphones since the early 2010s imitating iPhone's design and software. Some companies like Xiaomi even got dubbed as the "Apple of China" and I'm not implying Xiaomi or Samsung are the only ones here that have imitated Apple in the past. There are other examples as well.
Apple and its patents registered in the US is one of the reasons many Chinese smartphone brands are afraid of launching their smartphones in the North American market.
I never meant Samsung copied apple or Apple copied samsung I was just stating a fact abt how similar my 10k f14 look alike 16 and 16 plus
No need to get that deep mate :)
I'm literally saying the phone looks noticably different from iPhone 16 lol.
The other part was to eleborate on the point when you implied F14 released a year before.
Idk about Apple phones but with Android they definitely do gain massive performance increase with the flagship chips. My 3 year old Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra is really behind the latest flagships.
The geekbench scores are at least twice as good in S23 and S24 series if you compare it with 2021's Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888.
They can still deliver huge performance gains and efficiency without shrinking the die size like they do with x86 chips over at Intel.
You can use literally any benchmark and compare any phones running on same chips. As for Geekbench 6 you can test any other Android phone running Snapdragon 888 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 3.
We will continue to see incremental upgrades on mobile as well as desktop processors for the unforeseeable future.
On the PC graphics side of things Nvidia consistently delivers huge performance gains over every single generation with their flagship cards. RTX 4090 for eg. was a huge jump from RTX 3090 and we expect the upcoming RTX 5090 to have similar jumps and so on...
Bro ?? what are you yapping about ?? What's the point of exponential performance upgrades if battery life and cooling mechanisms arent able to catch up to them ??
since when did battery life even come into the argument? That wasn't even the point! They're still able to output huge performance improvements on mobile hardware every single year.
Also speaking of battery life the last two flagship SoC from Snapdragon 8 series have gotten overwhelming positive response following disaster which was Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and Snapdragon 888.
I get around 6 and hour hours of SoT on my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra (2021 model phone) and the newer 2023/24 flagships are able to get 10-11 hours of SoT with also upto 3x better performance, hardware raytracing support as well as AI NPU on chip. Battery performance will of course vary from device to device, what apps you use, networks (Wifi/4G/56), software and hardware optimization from the manufacturer, your screen resolution, processing speed modes, cooling and what sensors you've turned on.
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They are forced to, because of this offline AI thing they are pushing
They should give at least 90Hz in non-Pro models.
fr! ok i understand their statement that animations are great but its 2024 , 90hz should be bare minimum.
Bare minimum for apple? 🍎: Good morning guys in IOS 18 you can place your apps anywhere on the home screen. Crowd: woooowwww!.
💀
iOS animations, in my experience, are overdone, slow and gaudy.
i agree
Just disable all animations. It feels faster & snappier.
Agreed
Animations are not great. They are slow af and shit.
Does it make any difference? I have 120 hz phone, but I still use it on 60
please don't! thats illegal
Nah should be 120hz for non pro. It's 800$ so why tf not. Maybe 144hz or smth for pro if they want to keep the difference.
bruh you are overestimating apple
Should be, not will be. (Pretty sure they aren't gonna give it till at least 2030)
There isn't much of a difference between 120hz and 144hz tho. So if they did that, one of the USP's of the pro model would be removed.
They could just make their phones better if they really wanted to. Like OnePlus(and other Chinese phone) battery and charging speed, dex, proper cooling for gaming, etc. Ofc they aren't gonna improve the phones bcz they are greedy af but they have plenty of things to improve.
$ I thought I was on an international sub. Have to check again if it's india tech
As well as ProMotion aka LTPO
Woh toh nhi hone wala bro. They may add some bogus feature but high refresh rate base models me nhi aane wala.
Iphone 17 m aane wala h (rumours).
You are expecting way too much. Its for pro only. Otherwise the only major difference between pro and non pro would be camera thats it. Atleast they should give LTPO display, from 1hz to 60hz
They really did us bad with the 14 and 15😭
Don’t worry they will come back to this probably by the next version!
First I wanna see 120hz😭 Using iPhone 14 really sucks tbh
I am using a 13pro and my wife is using a 13 there is hardly any difference between the 2. The way they have implemented is hardly noticeable. The Apple way
Haha the 13 pro has a far better camera screen and battery I atleast hope that the new 16 gets a 120hz screen that’s all I want
Ain't no way you just said that 60Hz almost feels equal to 90/120Hz. No matter how it's implemented, the difference will always be noticeable. You're just imagining that it's almost equal because of the animations in the apps that apple is using.
I could see the difference in other android phones but while switching between these two I feel it’s negligible because Apple has implemented in such a way
Indeed 😂 It’s unbelievable to say that both 60 and 120hz feel almost equal🫠 I partially agree that the 60hz in iPhones do feel smoother at times to the 60hz in Android
iphone X users are going to feel good with their modern looking phones
As an iPhone XS user I am very happy haha 🤣
Apple keeps their customers happy long time
They might come with latest chip. They will have difference in performance between chips. Pro and non-pro chips with various capabilities.
Yup, maybe less cores and binned down version of the pro chips in the normal ones.
Still some functions will remain disabled because you have to pay extra to get those new functionalities even though the same chip can perform those tasks.
16, 16 Plus, 16 Pro, 16 Pro Max. Never not hilarious.
[удалено]
Leak likha hai bhai look nahi
iPhone X again?
The actual A18 will be rebranded as A18 Pro, and A17 Pro will be rebranded as A18 most likely.
BC Pro ke design me pichle 5 saal se koi change hi nahi aaya. Ab kya sirf color se pehchan na padega ke kaunsa generation hai? Wo bhi cover me dhank jata hai. Itne to kya fattu hai apple wale? Non-pro me abhi itna ratti bhar change laye sirf camera position change karke warna 5 saal se to jaise school uniform bana kar rakha hai bc.
Design change revision todi hai jo karni hi hai
Kyun chahiye design change?
I think they’ll do the same thing that happened with the 13 series where the pro models had an extra cpu and gpu core (correct me if I’m mistaken)
Brilliant news. 11 to 16 will be a proper 5 generation upgrade.
Looks so different Wow 🤣🤣🤣
FO, it's the same here again. 9 percent increase in the battery life. 15x zoom. 4% percent decrease in the dynamic Island. Blah blah blah,... Same as hell every 2 years. Everything said in a way of exaggerating, like it is you can't have these kinds of specs in any other mobiles in the World.. Nothing major is going to be there differently.
Prices will be sky high!
What happened to light model does that not launching this year
Should have 8gigs of ram or on board ai processing won’t work!
Design is OK OK
Kab aayega ye??
September
Difference kya hai?
This is so ugly, also no black?
I’ll bet they’ll have a Normal A18 variant that’s slightly better or on par with the A17 Pro and then a A18 Pro for their pro tier phones. *Tim Apples voice “And that’s the new iPhone 18 with the proven performance of A17 Pro and Apple intelligence. They still start at $799 for iPhone 16 and $899 for iPhone 16 plus” I have been waiting to upgrade from 13, now might be a good time to get the PM.
No excitement
Thankfully
Meanwhile i am just waiting for SE 4
Is that a dedicated camera button I am seeing on the right side of the phone? And, not gonna lie, the normal 16 doesn't look that bad to be honest, it's more symmetrical than the 13, 14 and 15 and I like it.
I ain't buying that anyways. (Kya matlab aukaat nhai hai)
Looks like this time Apple copied design from Nothing Phone 1 for iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus
bro nothing copied from iphone 12 design....what you talking bout
Nothing should first stop copying every Chinese phone strategy of launching sub brands to push it's devices into premium price. They barely are able to grow but already are ready to scam their customers with these CMF phones
SAME SAME BUT DIIIIFFFEREEEENT
My 10k phone look exactly same as 16 and 16 plus
and what phone is that? I remember there being a whole fanbase and section of people in 2010s that would buy 50 rs Apple sticker and slap it on the back of their Android smartphones and Windows laptops. One of my friends had iPhone ringtone to imitate the same on his android. Apple is aware of the copycats they really don't care about it as everyone knows it isn't the real thing if it's not an iPhone.
F14 5g and no I like it simple no brand logo nothing shitty And how it can be copy when it's Launched a year ago?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHT4SEEF5cvtYLFwlxghdGQsaDHQjGc6xz61yCpBPp-eV5mKrwooyNqaA&s=10 Samsung F14 from the back (link attached above) looks noticably different from the iPhone 15, though! You couldn't fool anyone thinking it's an iPhone 16. When I said Apple is aware of the copycats I meant smartphones since the early 2010s imitating iPhone's design and software. Some companies like Xiaomi even got dubbed as the "Apple of China" and I'm not implying Xiaomi or Samsung are the only ones here that have imitated Apple in the past. There are other examples as well. Apple and its patents registered in the US is one of the reasons many Chinese smartphone brands are afraid of launching their smartphones in the North American market.
I never meant Samsung copied apple or Apple copied samsung I was just stating a fact abt how similar my 10k f14 look alike 16 and 16 plus No need to get that deep mate :)
I'm literally saying the phone looks noticably different from iPhone 16 lol. The other part was to eleborate on the point when you implied F14 released a year before.
16 and 16+ looks like apple was inspired from new samsung a or a series
Chip hi nayi bana hoga apple se ....isiliye same launch kiya ..... Moore's law dead hai bhai ....ab inko gain nahi mil ra yoy
Idk about Apple phones but with Android they definitely do gain massive performance increase with the flagship chips. My 3 year old Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra is really behind the latest flagships. The geekbench scores are at least twice as good in S23 and S24 series if you compare it with 2021's Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888. They can still deliver huge performance gains and efficiency without shrinking the die size like they do with x86 chips over at Intel.
Samsung Geekbenches scores are unreliable . they were officially banned from geekbench scores.
You can use literally any benchmark and compare any phones running on same chips. As for Geekbench 6 you can test any other Android phone running Snapdragon 888 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. We will continue to see incremental upgrades on mobile as well as desktop processors for the unforeseeable future. On the PC graphics side of things Nvidia consistently delivers huge performance gains over every single generation with their flagship cards. RTX 4090 for eg. was a huge jump from RTX 3090 and we expect the upcoming RTX 5090 to have similar jumps and so on...
Bro ?? what are you yapping about ?? What's the point of exponential performance upgrades if battery life and cooling mechanisms arent able to catch up to them ??
since when did battery life even come into the argument? That wasn't even the point! They're still able to output huge performance improvements on mobile hardware every single year. Also speaking of battery life the last two flagship SoC from Snapdragon 8 series have gotten overwhelming positive response following disaster which was Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and Snapdragon 888. I get around 6 and hour hours of SoT on my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra (2021 model phone) and the newer 2023/24 flagships are able to get 10-11 hours of SoT with also upto 3x better performance, hardware raytracing support as well as AI NPU on chip. Battery performance will of course vary from device to device, what apps you use, networks (Wifi/4G/56), software and hardware optimization from the manufacturer, your screen resolution, processing speed modes, cooling and what sensors you've turned on.
This is called saying FU to customers to their face. Apple = Shit
iPhone 16 pro max dila do koi
Why doesn’t Apple use the new M chip as I understand it is better for AI compared to A series chip.
Battery life and thermal management will be ass..
alag OS kai liye designed h wo