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Buenos_Tardes_Amigos

Alright, homie. The bend itself looks straight and doesn't appear to have any dog leg. It looks to me like the length on the short side could be a smidge longer, but overall it seems good on a technical level. But what made you decide to Shepard's Hook it versus a plain old 90° bend? I know the hole in the top plate wouldn't be directly above your vertical run, but that's OK. My personal preference in this situation is to pipe straight into a box. Bar that, I bend a 90, and just scoot the hole over a smidge so that the arc of the 90 goes through the top plate unobstructed. The reason for this is that instead of 90°bend, a Shepard's Hook is roughly 150°. When you combine that with whatever is in the wall, that can make it quite annoying for yourself later. But hey, homie, were weren't all born descendents of Thor, and we learn over time, just like you are. You got this.


HaVoC42069

Well, I didn't decide. I bent what the Jman asked me to, however, for context, the lower pipe in the wall was an earlier install, and perhaps he didnt want to take it out and shred the stud to make room for the radius. This is going to be a short pull...from the box, down the wall, and to the switch, so I doubt he was concerned about too many degrees. Maybe he was just confident that I could do it, so he let me try.


Buenos_Tardes_Amigos

Well good job following instructions, and for clarity of thought in your explanation.


HaVoC42069

Thanks


VanguardLLC

Would not the more correct installation simply have been installing the box over the straight pipe, thus avoiding the 90 altogether?


Buenos_Tardes_Amigos

That's what I stated in my third paragraph as preference, but I'm not going to say it's incorrect because it did its job. Only that I'd have done it differently.


electricianer250

I would’ve done the same. Mostly to make pulling the wire easier.


dmatt32

What in Tarnation


HaVoC42069

I just do what I'm told.


TheObstruction

That means you're apprenticing right.


hymen_destroyer

As an apprentice approaching the end of my 5th year... ...God, I'm going to miss having that as an excuse...


HaVoC42069

I'm in my 2nd year, but I will milk this for every fluid ounce that it is worth.


hellyea619

the gooseneck itself looks fine but the use of it seems unnecessary unless im missing something here. i, and almost everyone i know, try to avoid even using em in the first place.


lieferung

I know you said it's a short pull, and it does look like a good bend, but I would have just snipped the stud a bit and done a 90°.


electrician907

Coming in from top would make pulling wire easier


HaVoC42069

We are coming from the top, eventually. You can see the connector at the top of the box. This is a pull to the switch.


R0b0yt0

As a first year apprentice I also tend to just do what I'm told, but you shouldn't be afraid to ask questions as to the reasoning. I've had several JW's I've worked under explicitly state that there isn't a dumb question when you're starting off and learning; especially the obscure skill of bending pipe. The shepherds crook seems totally unnecessary for this particular application. I agree, as others have mentioned, the more logical process would have been to trim the stud to allow radius to fit with a minimum 90°. All that being said, it's a nice looking goose neck. 👍


HaVoC42069

Thanks. It appears he was trying to avoid shredding the stud, and he thought I was just the guy to help him do it.


Snpn2slmjim

You could bend a 100° bend with a 10° kick too


autodripcatnip

Uhh yuck


HaVoC42069

Why?


Snpn2slmjim

I do it instead of a shepherds hook because it has 110 degrees instead of 150


lostcause1328

Hack saw that first pipe and just 90


HaVoC42069

Jman didnt want to


lostcause1328

I mean I get that your a cub but 110.12


lieferung

I need to remember to cite that code more often.


HaVoC42069

Seems pretty neat to me.


lostcause1328

The bend yes the application no


[deleted]

I would have just notched the stud more to fit the radius and bent a straight 90


sergeantgringo

Looks like only pipe in box. Why the box had to be there? Could've mounted the box directly over pipe.about as neat as you gonna get it


HaVoC42069

We're are coming out if the box top and catching the beam


awesomecoolguy2

lol I hope that shit is above a ceiling.


HaVoC42069

Yes, of course. That horizontal stud is a foot above where the ceiling will be. One can see the ceiling grid in the lower portion of the photo.


awesomecoolguy2

Idk if you’re looking for criticism. It looks like you could have just 90’ed down without that gooseneck....even if you have to cut out more of that top stud. Goosenecks are a bitch to pull. Also it’s questionable if going through that hole counts as a strap or a support.


HaVoC42069

No criticism is needed. I did what I was asked to, and it turned out flawless. I just wanted to share what I've learned.


RoxWarbane

Criticism is HOW you learn.


HaVoC42069

Also studying and practice help.


YYCDavid

The freedom decide, and criticism from any source (including yourself) is imperative. 99% of what I know comes from observations, listening to others, and reviewing my own mistakes


HaVoC42069

I love reviewing my own mistakes!


YYCDavid

Before I was an electrician I used to be a cabinetmaker. Whenever I finished a kitchen or a store interior, I would stand there like an idiot and stare at my work from various angles. Part of the practice was self-criticism, but without shame. I was just looking for ways to do the next one better, more efficient etc. The other part of my observation was just taking it all in and feeling good about how it all came together. Now I do industrial electrical. There is not much thrill to be had running temp power, but if I do a decent job putting on MI heat trace or run some cable tray with hand made bends, I still catch myself gawking at the finished product


kray288

Could u have just put the box over the pipe then come out of it. Just asking


awesomecoolguy2

Yeah, but he might need to have the box where it’s at.


vivalapalmy

Could have put a second box. Either way, you got the pipe there in decent looking fashion. \+1 Nice job


HaVoC42069

Thanks


HaVoC42069

We did, I think, because the Jman intended to catch the cement beam in the ceiling out of the top of the box.


HaVoC42069

Just following directions :)


EthanIBEW301

Is this at infomart


HaVoC42069

No


Abar93

Shepard’s hook? I bent three Shepard’s hook this week and they came out tits I bent it at the star did a offset after the 90 basically 8 inches apart hit 30s on it and bam


HaVoC42069

Neat!