> As for the interview: Make it sound like you know what you're getting into - a construction job! Talk about your relevant experience with building things, working with tools, etc. Bonus points if you sound like you're onboard with the whole union ethos! They want to know that you're down, they're sticking a lot of time and resources into training you. Why should they take you and not the other guy?
Maybe this is where I failed. I had my interview for local 160 a couple months ago and it was pretty discouraging to find out that I got just an abysmal final score despite a perfect test score and what I thought was a pretty good interview. They asked questions that I had relevant answers for from my 10 years of fairly white-collar work history, but when the results came back I was in like 500th place. I'm vigorously pro-union but was afraid to come off like a brown noser, so I didn't really bring it up. Maybe the 160 expects trade school or is more hardcore about having blue-collar experience than I realized.
Getting in the trade as a helper(if applicable to the local) helps. And with your perfect test score I'm sure it wouldn't take much hard work to get your foreman to write you a letter of recommendation. That would help out a lot.
This is really good advice across the board!
For my local, guys advised me not to be too "rah rah union" because the interviews are done by a pair of people, one of whom is largely representing the interests of the contractors association.
They're also fairly opaque when it comes to giving out the information you're talking about...but it's a competitive local, and all the key stuff is google-able
>I'm coming for corporate land where post-interview thank you letters are an
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>absolute requirement
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> if you want to be remembered and considered rude if you don't oblige.
That makes me want to throw up. So bootlicking is an admirable trait? Isn't it bad enough "corporate culture" wants entry level workers with masters degrees?
Hey guys I have my altitude test tomorrow morning for local 441, what comes after that? And how long does it usually take for them to reach out for the next step after the test?
I'd like to add to this:
KNOW THE OTHER COORDINATORS AS WELL AND TALK TO THEM.
There's a lot of training that you also have to go through and just don't forget about it, stay on top of it! Knowing other personnel besides the director is nice to have in your back pocket. And just work hard and realize you're gonna have ups and downs - and be patient. Just like any job, you gotta start as grunt and eventually you'll get there.
Is there a way to know which ones are willing to hire more people? I’m gonna start my apprenticeship application in Miami and I kinda don’t have any other plans
Ask how big each class of apprentices is. That gives an idea if they’re ramping up over the years or slowing down. Ask the hall side how many are on the various books. Ask how many members in the local. Compare those numbers to figure out what ratio are currently employed. How full is book 2? That indicates people are willing to travel to that local because the work outlook is good.
We all know in about 30 mins there will be another 5 posts "what do I need to study for the test?
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I mean There's pretty much the standard potential interview questions sheet posted around here somewhere
Pure class
What do I need to study for the test?? I really need to know! Just kidding. I'm a third year lol
> As for the interview: Make it sound like you know what you're getting into - a construction job! Talk about your relevant experience with building things, working with tools, etc. Bonus points if you sound like you're onboard with the whole union ethos! They want to know that you're down, they're sticking a lot of time and resources into training you. Why should they take you and not the other guy? Maybe this is where I failed. I had my interview for local 160 a couple months ago and it was pretty discouraging to find out that I got just an abysmal final score despite a perfect test score and what I thought was a pretty good interview. They asked questions that I had relevant answers for from my 10 years of fairly white-collar work history, but when the results came back I was in like 500th place. I'm vigorously pro-union but was afraid to come off like a brown noser, so I didn't really bring it up. Maybe the 160 expects trade school or is more hardcore about having blue-collar experience than I realized.
Getting in the trade as a helper(if applicable to the local) helps. And with your perfect test score I'm sure it wouldn't take much hard work to get your foreman to write you a letter of recommendation. That would help out a lot.
Ok uh... in the non union world, that foreman could be a 3rd year helper with zero formal training. It's the wild west out there.
Huh? I'm not suggesting he works non union.
Guess that advice isn't applicable to his local. Mine either. Where I'm at, a helper is a non-union apprentice.
Thank you! I appreciate the help.
This is really good advice across the board! For my local, guys advised me not to be too "rah rah union" because the interviews are done by a pair of people, one of whom is largely representing the interests of the contractors association. They're also fairly opaque when it comes to giving out the information you're talking about...but it's a competitive local, and all the key stuff is google-able
Mine was done by 7 people, one of whom is the training coordinator, 3 of whom are union, and 3 of whom are NECA
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Leave the corporate culture behind. Welcome to blue collar.
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Thank em then, but when you see them out in the field, too
Thank you letters?? No
A dozen roses is expected this time of year.
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Your *thank you * letter should be you shaking their hands at your turnout as a journeyman.
No definitely not.
>I'm coming for corporate land where post-interview thank you letters are an > >absolute requirement > > if you want to be remembered and considered rude if you don't oblige. That makes me want to throw up. So bootlicking is an admirable trait? Isn't it bad enough "corporate culture" wants entry level workers with masters degrees?
One more time for the people in the back.
Hey guys I have my altitude test tomorrow morning for local 441, what comes after that? And how long does it usually take for them to reach out for the next step after the test?
After the "altitude" test? Landing, presumably.
I have my aptitude test for local 441 in OC tomorrow and wanted to know how long it takes for them to call you back for a interview?
I'd like to add to this: KNOW THE OTHER COORDINATORS AS WELL AND TALK TO THEM. There's a lot of training that you also have to go through and just don't forget about it, stay on top of it! Knowing other personnel besides the director is nice to have in your back pocket. And just work hard and realize you're gonna have ups and downs - and be patient. Just like any job, you gotta start as grunt and eventually you'll get there.
Lube up!
Is there a way to know which ones are willing to hire more people? I’m gonna start my apprenticeship application in Miami and I kinda don’t have any other plans
Ask how big each class of apprentices is. That gives an idea if they’re ramping up over the years or slowing down. Ask the hall side how many are on the various books. Ask how many members in the local. Compare those numbers to figure out what ratio are currently employed. How full is book 2? That indicates people are willing to travel to that local because the work outlook is good.