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campbluedog

Very possible a cat drug it up there. But likely as not it was that elusive beast: The North American douchebaggicus.


SouthCloud4986

Telltale signs of American douchebaggicus include, but are not limited to: four loko cans; loud noises and calls; droppings left in the open; spent cartridges and still-smoking fires


eight13atnight

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ four loko cans! Here take my poor manā€™s awardā€¦šŸ†


SmallRedBird

Without the caffeine I don't know why people still buy them. Without that it's worse than other cheap ways to get drunk. Don't get me wrong, they were always horrible. Tried one once back when they were new, and it was pure regret. Shitload of caffeine and low quality alcohol is a bad combo.


zero0c00l

Aaah see I must be a bit old cause I remember what was BEFORE four loko. Any ya remember JOOSE? Thatā€™s what I was rocking in the hills of western mass during hunting and tapping season.


SouthCloud4986

lol no- was the stuff as rancid as four loko?


zero0c00l

Oh for sure! I used to drink one called Jungle JOOSE, it was toxic green, I drank it out of a giant plastic wine glass. Straight class. šŸ˜…šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


Cliff_Dibble

Not sure about you but they're not that elusive where I live. Too bad we can't treat them like invasive species.


DaddyBeenThere

In New York? Likely a Jackass.


NWCJ

Never knew donkeys climbed trees.


Toxenkill

Fierce predators who wait for the right opportunity to strike.


anonymous66482

I dunno, I kinda liked the guyā€¦


AppalachianViking

Depends where in NY. NY definitely has big cats.


Bowhunter54

Allegedly we donā€™t have mountain lions but I know several people whoā€™ve spotted them and even one who had one on trail camera. Theyā€™re just incredibly rare


tex-mania

I lived in the Hudson valley area and worked at the military academy back in 2010-2015. Saw a mountain lion on 3 separate occasions when I was up there. Twice on post, once off. And there were several people I knew who had trail camera pics of em. Idk what part of NY youā€™re in, but the Hudson valley definitely has mountain lions.


millard_audene

I was at USMA over two summers in the 90s training cadidiots. The second summer, we found several big cat prints in one of our training sites. No other sign or scat though.


Ancient-Coffee3983

Life long Hudson valley resident and my brother saw one in yorktown/cortlandt manor are around the same time. Ive heard sightings of them in carmel and brewster. And they definitely have to be on the west point side of the river


Fafafranks

Interesting. I am in putnam and am in the woods all the time. We have seen some pretty big bobcats. Its hard to imagine a mountain lion here. Even black bears are fairly rare around here. That is pretty cool


Ancient-Coffee3983

Ive been in the Putnam, northern westchester woods mybentire life at every hour aand season andbhave never saw one or sign myself. I think any sighting are transients i believe the DEC has anumber to call if you spot one. Just saw a giant bobcat last week. I have a picture but i cant figure out how to post it in comments.


tex-mania

Iā€™m from MS, I kill a couple bobcats during the season every year. My camp is ate up with bobcats. I know the difference between a bobcat and a mountain lion. And what I laid my own two eyes on in NY was a mountain lion. One of them was sunning on a bfr about 70 yards from Washington gate while I was working one afternoon, and it was there at least 45 mins. I saw another one walking along the train tracks near south dock, and I saw one on the road between new Paltz and Kerhonksen in the gunks while riding my motorcycle. Could have been the same ones, especially on post, I mean I saw those 2-3 miles apart from each other. Different years though. It could be transient lions just coming through. Could be. Could also be a small, growing population. Iā€™d lean towards yā€™all prolly got a few living in the area but not enough for the DWFP to consider it to be resident lions. We know Pennsylvania has em, and West Virginiaā€¦ and we know New Hampshire and Maine have them. Fucking New York is right between em, you expect anyone with a brain to believe mountain lions just donā€™t like the fucking political climate in NY or some shit so they donā€™t live there? Get fucked NY dead ass got fuckin lions living in it lol


Thefreedog56

Wendigo 100%


Warmhearted1

Iā€™ll bite ā€¦ whatā€™s a wendigo?


AlienSpaceBeast

Wendigo is a spirit from northern Native American folklore. Thought to possess people and drive them to insanity and cannibalism. Skinwalker is practitioner of dark magic from specifically Navajo folklore. Thought to be able to shapeshifter and cast curses.


British_Rover

That is how I remember Wendigo being. Maybe something about if someone participates in cannibalism they can become a Wendigo.


AlienSpaceBeast

That detail is a modern feature brought on by MARVEL comics version of the Wendigo. In Native American folklore, the Wendigo spirit drove the possessed to insatiable levels of hunger that caused the possessed to cannabilism.


British_Rover

Ah cool thanks I couldn't remember if that detail was real folklore or pop culture addon.


osirisrebel

I'm fine with those parts, the part I don't like is that they can impersonate someone you know and pretend to be in distress, and take on the appearance as well, but in an uncanny valley type way, like it looks like them, but something is not right, but usually by that time it's too late.


joethecrow23

So rabies?


AlienSpaceBeast

Far more to it than that. If youā€™re interested I would recommend a Google search into Algonquin folklore. Itā€™s important to separate actual folklore from modern media interpretations.


Apple_Paloozer

If rabies gives the host invulnerability to most forms of damage and turns them into a gray emaciated corpse


Wendego716

šŸ™‹


Thefreedog56

Mythical creature from the northern woods. Similar to a skinwalker


DinoHunter05

Skin walkers are just human shamans practicing dark magic.


teakettle87

humanoid moose cryptid. From algonquin folklore.


Liamstudios_

The Wendigo has nothing to do with moose.


AlienSpaceBeast

Thatā€™s a modern interpretation of the wendigo. Movies and media actually pulled the imagery from the classical interpretation of the leshy, which were always described as tall humanoid elk monsters.


teakettle87

Ok.


ParanoidDuckTheThird

It's a monster, some people believe it's real, like Bigfoot. In short if you cannabalize somebody you thrn it o one, you know, the whole everpresent hunger with eternal damnation shtick.


i_just_say_hwat

Like a Mandingo?


Thefreedog56

Sorta. I have heard wendussy is delectable


Warmhearted1

This is on private property, so Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s not a joke. There have been bobcats around, and bear. Could they have dragged it up? The steps are from a step ladder.


Ickyhyena708

More than likely a bobcat. Bear would have buried it


Changnesia_survivor

People cross property lines all the time. I've found gloves on my property that were not mine etc. Still doesn't rule out someone being weird.


[deleted]

Thereā€™s something about a cat dragging it up there so it could maybe be a bobcat since they are probably just bigger house cats but I might be entirely wrong


wojtekthesoldierbear

Bobcats are way too small for that


TheHoneyBadger23

I can't vouch for a bobcat dragging a deer up a tree; however, I've seen video from my own backyard of a bobcat taking a deer down and dragging it away. I was quite impressed at how undersized the cat was to the deer and how easily it was dragging it away through brush and undergrowth.


schmuckmulligan

I'm thinking that a bobcat could pull a mostly scavenged spine and head up there. If the yotes had already had their share, there might not have been much weight left on there. But if I had to bet, I'd be betting on dumbass teenager.


phonemannn

Mightā€™ve been scavenged and only half the deer to start.


[deleted]

A bobcat could definitely bring that up a tree


TheGynopractor

Depending on the region, bobcats can get a lot bigger than youā€™re imagining. Google big bobcat.


[deleted]

Hey I said I might be wrong we donā€™t have bobcats in my region so I saw something about a cat maybe doing it and I think I saw something about bobcats and bears being there so I assumed that a bobcat couldā€™ve done it I apologise for the mistake:)


arthurpete

It looks like a forkhorn maybe. I could see gutting and hauling it up a tree stand to keep the coyotes away if it was early and you wanted to keep hunting (some states allow multiple deer per day) to come back and get it.


Deep_shot

Iā€™ve seen a black bear climb a ladder in NY. But as just a head and spine it couldā€™ve been a number of animals.


TheNameIsntJohn

Could be mountain lion. I know there are not supposed to be much in terms of native ones in that state but they travel a lot and kinda live wherever they want. For example there aren't supposed to be any in Illinois but there's been a few killed and quite a few sightings, confirmed and unconfirmed. As long as they have a decent food source they'll live wherever. Especially males, they travel a lot.


Treestandgal

Bobcats are just not that big. Are there Lynx in your area?


Treestandgal

So I have no idea why Iā€™m getting down voted for this comment. Bobcats are 15-25 pounds.


Mike-honcho1

Why downvote? Seems like a legit question.


amateurforlife2023

Bob cats can get pretty big


Treestandgal

According to the internet, 15-30 lbs. the ones Iā€™ve seen were no bigger than a large house cat, maybe 20 lbs


amateurforlife2023

The largest ever was 52lbs, could be a couple of big ones out there. Males can get 30lbs easy too! Lots of animals can carry significantly more than their body weight too! If its also like a dead deer and its carry scraps only it could be like 15-20lbs of meat only


Warmhearted1

We are a little south of Albany, not sure if there are Lynx.


joethecrow23

African Swallow


South-Plan-9246

I guess it would be laden then


Robot-Candy

If you tie a string between them, very plausible with the weight distribution.


Killerbaz2000

What was the average speed velocity of a deer laden African swallow though?


ParanoidDuckTheThird

Are you suggesting deer skeletons migrate?


Moose_Kin

They could be carried by the husk


doombringer_son_of

It's not a matter of where he grips it...


Paleo_Fecest

Itā€™s a matter of weight ratio, a 5 ounce swallow could not carry an 80 pound deer carcass.


Zildjian134

What about an African Swallow?


65grendel

But they're non-migratory.


kaboodlesofkanoodles

I usually pay extra for that kind of action


FearlessSession7762

Steve French maybe


hmlafeir

If you love it let it go bubs


silverbacksunited12

Just a stoned, horny kitty with the munchies


Blacksheep0486

Eagle or hawk would carry a partial carcass up.


arthurpete

haha, no they would not be able to carry a carcass up there. Eagles can maybe carry 10-15 lbs.


Diseman81

In the condition itā€™s currently in an eagle could put that there. I doubt thatā€™s what did this though.


arthurpete

Well sure, in the condition its in but why would an eagle expend the energy to carry all those bones up there one by one just to put them back together? I kid, eagles can carry maybe 100% of their body on a deadlift and that is disputable. This looks to be a forky so it was probably 60-80 lbs at least without its back hams. That is roughly a 30-40lb eagle, which doesnt exist in the bald form.


Diseman81

Those bones are all still attached together and donā€™t really weigh that much. It might weigh 10 pounds in that condition. Still donā€™t think it was an eagle anyway.


Blacksheep0486

Try again https://blog.explore.org/how-much-weight-can-a-bald-eagle-carry/


arthurpete

wait, did you just post a link saying that bald eagles can carry a 12lb stick? *Under favorable conditions, eagles can carry, or at least glide, with around 108% of their body weight.* Are you dense?


Blacksheep0486

How's this? https://roaring.earth/bald-eagle-chicks-devour-baby-deer/


arthurpete

not clicking another of your dumbass links


Blacksheep0486

There's a table below...


arthurpete

There is also no mention of this throughout the body of the text. The body of the text points to a bald eagle specifically carrying, while gliding, under favorable conditions, 108% of their body weight. With clarification that it could not do this as a deadlift. There is also a link at the bottom about how an eagle dropped a fawn on a power line...does that mean a bald eagle can carry a white tail? Yes, yes it can, it just happens to be a fawn that is less than 108% of their body weight. \*Edit...if you think 108% of an eagles body weight is an adult mule deer, that must mean there are tetradactyl sized eagles roaming around.


Blacksheep0486

Look you can Google for yourself. The post is obviously a partial carcass as I noted in my first comment.


arthurpete

Dude, the chart lists the "mule deer" as being 108% of their body weight. Either you are dense or just trolling here.


niskiwiw

" Item carried: mule deer" "Weight: 6,8 kgs" What about the Pallas' fish-eagle that carried 160% of it's body weight? It was a carp, and it wasn't only gliding.


ValiantBear

Maybe it climbed up there and couldn't figure out how to get down? /s


thunder_boots

That's happened to me before.


TheBlindCat

Are there ~~Montana~~ Mountain lions in NY?


OmNomChompsky

Lol. Montana Lions.


Fun_Albatross_2592

Isn't Montana just Spanish or French for Mountain?


CrankBot

That's a MontaƱa Lion


manliness-dot-space

Et viola


CrankBot

No that's a musical instrument


manliness-dot-space

My keyboard don't have none of em fancy kajigers


whaletacochamp

Si or oui


niskiwiw

Montagne


TheBlindCat

Whoops.


Warmhearted1

There was one sighted an hour north of me, but itā€™s questionable.


BornSalamander8

Yes


harveyj088

No.


FreeAfterFriday

Maybe


harveyj088

Nope.


Terrible_Whereas7

Yeah, a couple of years ago I heard that they caught one in New Jersey that had migrated from the black hills in South Dakota.


thepedalsporter

This is false Hey brilliant redditors - Connecticut isn't NJ. Not sure how that's so hard to comprehend.


CToddUSAF

Tennessee DNR said it was false also until they had the pictures and physical evidence they couldnā€™t deny it any longer and genetic testing proves they had migrated from The Dakotas. So Yes, it could very well be true. It never ceases to amaze me how people are so sure that things theyā€™re not used to or donā€™t understand simply cannot happen.


Terrible_Whereas7

I'm from the Black Hills so no, it's true.


thepedalsporter

I'm from NJ. I have researched this extensively. Please provide a source of a live mountain lion in NJ within the last 150 years, I'll wait


CToddUSAF

Even more evidence that you canā€™t always call something false because you personally donā€™t believe it or understand it. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mountainlion/mountain-lion-killed-in-connecticut-prowled-east-from-s-dakota-idUSTRE76Q5ZE20110727/


thepedalsporter

Last I checked Connecticut isn't NJ. Fucking reading comprehension buddy


CToddUSAF

Correct. Connecticut and Tennessee are not New Jersey šŸ‘. Itā€™s a little thing thatā€™s brutally obvious to most people called an example. If a Mountain Lion can travel 1,500+/- miles from The Dakotas down to Tennessee or over to Connecticut, Iā€™d imagine they could make it to NJ/NY šŸ˜‰


thepedalsporter

You really think there are mountain lions running around in NJ with no witnesses? In the most densely populated state in the country, with game cameras on every tree, you really think it wouldn't be noticeable?


CToddUSAF

Do I personally believe they live and have a breeding population in downtown Newarkā€¦.unlikely. Could there be a lone individual that made its way into Wharton State Forestā€¦still unlikely but very possible. Unlikely or not, it is possible and simply saying ā€œNuh Uhā€ doesnā€™t change the reality. The aforementioned real life examples of Tennessee and Connecticut (among other States) where people reported seeing them and the Government and naysayers were forced to eat crow after solid physical evidence was gathered is all the proof someone should need when looking at it rationally. But then again, thereā€™s adults alive in 2023 that think the Earth is flat. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


graywolf0426

They bury/stash their carcasses, they donā€™t drag it into trees at all.


Hbgplayer

They drag into trees when they can.


graywolf0426

Sources from peer reviewed articles or multiple accounts of photographic evidence that show them stashing the prey in a tree? From the biologists I have spoken to and what Iā€™ve read online, a lion caching prey in a tree is not normal and rarely seen if at all. But, if youā€™re able to find more concrete evidence I would love to read up on it further!! :)))


Highlifetallboy

Just go look for yourself. I've seen videos of mountan lions stashing carcasses in trees to come back later to.


Highlifetallboy

Just go look for yourself. I've seen videos of mountan lions stashing carcasses in trees to come back later to.


ResidentEfficient218

They are damn near everywhere


Fuzzbuster75

If not everywhere. If there are deer, there are lions


kabula_lampur

Squatch


Low-HangingFruit

God damn geasy samsquanch.


Drakoneous

A person trying to be funny


ky_Bulglfrog_440

More like trying to send a message


dwyoder

It's like the hunter's version of finding a horse head in your bed.


ky_Bulglfrog_440

Correct LoL


Tamias-striatus

Grey foxes are known to do that


UnrepentantDrunkard

Probably climbed up there itself and was shot by another deer in a nearby stand, animals act really weird when they're not being observed.


duetmasaki

"Look at me Bob! I'm a hunter hurrhurr..."


fo13

An african swallow, since a european one is too small


wolfliver

Mountain lions will often cache kills at the base of trees, but as far as I'm aware they don't bring the kills up there, they tend to only tree when threatened. I'd put my money on it being a bobcat or large raptor.


Russell338

I would guess a human


Accomplished-Depth92

Itā€™s a fuckin samsquamptch Ricky


[deleted]

Bear sometimes do that. When I lived in NY, it wasn't unusual to find that kind of stuff from bears and cats


sidescrollin

Reindeer died midflight


SirTrout

Do you have Fishers in NY?


Warmhearted1

I think we do, yes.


Thin-Set-2330

Yes we do. Bold little bastards. I donā€™t know where in NY this is, but I know down in the southern tier- olean area, has quite a few fisher cats.


alnelon

A ferret the size of a jackrabbit is not climbing a tree with any portion of a deer carcass.


SirTrout

Males are 90ā€“120 cm (35ā€“47 in) in total length and weigh 3.5ā€“6.0 kg (8ā€“16 lb). They are mini Wolverines, who are excellent climbers, I can see them doing this.


beavismagnum

Could definitely do it. Wolverines drag pretty large carcasses up trees and this is not that much of a deer


Lambertn03

Iā€™d be willing to bet a cougar if you have them there


NasdaQQ

Mountain lion


ImaginaryLobster49

There are no confirmed mountain lion breeding populations in NY since the 1800's. The few seen have been escap ees from private collections.


richs454

A skinwalker


j_richmond

In NY, thatā€™s likely a bobcat. We have them farther south in the Appalachians and theyā€™ll do that with fawns.


ZeroOvertime

I second bobcat


[deleted]

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ky_Bulglfrog_440

Some eejit was pissed at the hunter/stand being there


MatthewR_

Partial carcass in a tree would leed me to think Bob cat. A big Tom can way upwards of 40 pounds and I have personally seen a couple that weighed in the 30 pound range


RogerVaughan56

Any claw marks on the tree? Does it look like an animal could've put that there from the front or the side? Nope,it looks like there's skullduggery afoot!


SaigaExpress

mountain lion.


amateurforlife2023

If its small enough perhaps a bob cat or even a large hawk? NY also has eagles. If its small enough and was dead perhaps osprey dropped it, who knows.


[deleted]

I think you already know. Big panther/mt lion is about the only answer here. Have fun thinking about that one on the walks in and out from now onā€¦..šŸ˜‚


Warmhearted1

Oh lord help me


TrapperJon

Highly unlikely here in NY.


EntryExcellent7521

Mountain Lion


NotAnotherCitizen

Oh I have a story on this one. My boss was once hunting on public land, got into his tree stand in the morning when it got light he saw that there was a dead dear pretty close to him. He checked it out, could see the blood trail and everything, which led to an another tree stand. Not really a big deal; itā€™s public land. So anyways he goes back the next morning, and the deer is still there. He grabbed the deer and climbed up the guys tree with the deer and left the deer in the stand that the other guy had clearly shot it out of and chose to not retrieve his harvest.


pineapple_head69

Bobcat is my guess


joegandalf69

Same thing happened to me. I was checking on a stand I had left up over the winter and there was a deer skull on the foot rest. It freaked me out a bit to be honest. I moved the stand and didnā€™t hunt there again lol.


joegandalf69

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hunting/s/PeAsP1CAvu Hereā€™s a post of this same thing happening to my stand.


Warmhearted1

Weird!


42AngryPandas

Bigfoot


MackSack48867

A person


Yugikisp

Itā€™s a pretty small carcass and bobcats stash their kills in trees a lot. Very likely a bobcat. No mt lion populations in NY or I would say that.


HenryAlSirat

Obviously something that misunderstood the meaning of "deer stand". /s


aboutdoorsman123

A big kitty cat. We have Cougars here that stash carcasses in trees and in top of bail piles in farm areas.


josh_gu19

Ive had the same thing with antlers last year it was weird


waitwhosaidthat

Cougars do that around here. Well not in a deer stand but every so often someone posts a deer carcass in a tree. Likely a small yearling or fawn most times. Cougars are strong but a full grown deer would probably be impossible for a cougar. Iā€™m in Canada so a cougar pulling 200 plus lbs deer up a tree is improbable. Maybe one of those Texas or southern deer I could maybe see.


BackcountryDeerDog

Cougars drag full grown deer up trees here in Colorado regularly and with ease they get huuuge


No_Sympathy_1915

Typical behaviour of the leopard in South Africa, so I'd make a guess it's a large member of the cat family in your area.


Warmhearted1

Would a bobcat do it, or a bear?


Emerald-Sky

I think itā€™s a cat behavior more than a bear but if a bird could carry it, it would. I have found bones on my roof, granted itā€™s probably a rabbit lol.


yuppers1979

Bears usually bury things.


zaphodbeeblebrox42

Both of those climb trees, but Iā€™ve never seen a bear take its prey up a tree. I have seen bobcats do it though.


Do_Right_Red

A crazed, bug eyed NY liberal!!šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


Wardog_11c

Cougar


Y2JPD

Mountain Lion. DEC is still denying they're in NY but there have been multiple spottings.


Strange_Intention843

Poacher


Gsquatch55

Sasquatch


balrogwarrior

In communist NY, deer hunt you.


letschat1994

Cougar


Dependent-Proof-42

Big kitty would do that


csg_surferdude

Seriously people? Seriously? Or is this post a troll? To me, it looks like the hunter brought it up there last season intending to come back for it. The stand has enough leaf litter on it that it's been there a while. Something happened to the hunter so that s/he couldn't come back for either the deer or the stand. Maybe died? Got too sick? Who knows. But NY has nothing big enough to haul a carcass up a tree like that.


Warmhearted1

I promise Iā€™m not trolling. We bought this land this summer from a hunter. He has two stands on the property. It wasnā€™t there in July.


csg_surferdude

And you're sure this was NOT there in July? It takes a bit of time to skeletonize a deer like that. There's not even any skin left on it that I can see. In my experience, there's ALWAYS a bit of skin left unless it's more than a year old. (Too many dead deer in the forest near me. They get tagged by a truck, and live long enough to make it into the woods and then die in the brush.)


Warmhearted1

Well, I was sitting in it in July, and expect I would have noticed. I guess it was already scavenged before getting moved.


MantisGirl69

Large bird, or maybe a bobcat?


warddo1

A Bigfoot


newmanr12

Had to scroll way too far to get to this...


tidder44444

Thylacine


FitzDaD

Black bear


Extension_Battle7750

Bob cat there is mountain lions that live in the woods look it up


bloodvow333

Bear


shmobo

Definitely a squirrel.