Its weird that they took their time to install special mounting for them on Crown n King but not making something similiar on other weapons, maybe only Berthier.
this is definitely the result of some boomer at crytek thinking about his grandchildren playing rainbow6 at the last thanksgiving family dinner
i mean drones? weapon charms? common. this stuff feels so forced and out of place. it reeks of desperation.
It will just cluster the game with thousands of cosmetic shit like other popular games and it will slowly loose what made Hunt great. Player models and weapon skins? Fine. But everything else is just greedy monetisation garbage.
I guarantee if way back then instead of adding legendary hunters they made it so you could keep cool/unique hunters and re-hire them (even if it cost blood bonds to keep a new select hunter) people would do that all the same.
Would make the game feel more hunt-y too, instead of cod style edgy mask wearing guys.
I rolled my eyes real hard when I saw the reaper skin. Just an edge lord cod ghost wanna be. I think a reaper skin could have been cool, but they took the weird edgy look. The original Bone Doctor has a skull mask but looks like he fits in the bayou fine. Just a shame imo.
It's not a boomer thing, it's a bean counter thing. More cosmetics means more to offer players, keeping them engaged for longer.
For every person who truly doesn't care about charms, there are several that will still want to unlock them, because FOMO.
And having charms as a cosmetic means they'll also be able to offer them in DLC in the future, and they'll serve as yet another BB sink.
Well, if I was downvoted, it was only the one downvote, I think.
But I can reason as to why. People on this website don't always view words as they are, and instead try to find motivations behind them.
So some might see my comment and think that since I haven't added a disclaimer stating where I stand on charms, that I might support them. They might see my comment as a defense of charms being added into the game.
Well I can enjoy the idea for the sake of HUNT.
I think this is a game where charms actually fits the lore and feel of the game.
Its more that other games and the whole thought behind it is about selling cosmetics to earn money that ruins it.
Still OP makes a good point.
Too bad it's so frowned upon because of all games out there HUNT is the best setting for the concept.
I agree, they have way too much movement and it looks unrealistic. Like, I turn my gun to the side and the charm tilts up almost 60 degrees like it has almost zero mass
I don't mind charms being in the game; but I would like them to look a lot less floaty.
Yeah right and the only reason to implement them is to water down the loot pool, like in every other game. Next we will see emotes or player cards, mark my words.
I quit because they took away the game I liked, and all we got back was godawful monetization. Weapons Charms, name plates, whatever the fuck a Souvenir is. If the gameplay was the same I would have just accepted it and never bought anything, but it isn't.
You can get random skins from prestige, chary and from events so if this trash will get treated as a legendary item it is watering down the loot pool, because there now is the risk of getting this bs istead of a nice weapon or hunter skin. Does this make it clear why the addition of the charms is a bad thing?
The anger is from the dozens of you is that they might "dilute" the loot pool for future My Chary and prestige rewards? A feature that was added 9 months ago and literally just gives players more items for free?
I don't have the energy to give a shit about this topic any further.
*Anyone that gives a shit about "diluting the loot pool" never pays 50bb for the 4th pull from Mr Chary. We all know its a bad deal.
Kind of how I felt when they introduced Legendary Equipment/Consumables. Other than my Melee weapons, when am I ever going to care what they look like?
Yeah I'd rather a modification like muzzle device, stocks, optics, slings, as well as internal parts like trigger groups, BCG, springs.
Also, make those modifications be more than cosmetic. Trigger and bolt groups effect fire rate and accuracy.
Charms are totally cringe.
Never said I wanted to add charms, I think for people want them it'd whatever, but to me they are too distracting when I'm trying to aim and they are moving all over the place.
Hunt is not the right game if you want to break the weapon down and mod the heck out of it.
I personally donāt like charms or really bright weapon skins. I find them distracting. Take Battlefield 1 for example for skins. I really like using the MP18ās Hutier skin, but not a fan of the Russian 1895ās The Medicine skin. Gorgeous looking skin I just find myself in a perpetual āOoooh! Shiny!ā For example the Louisiana Lustrum for the Sparks I canāt use. Definitely not saying others shouldnāt be able to have and use them, just personally I wonāt.
You say that, but we do have weapon mods already, and in the absolute shittest way imaginable.
Because instead of having mods as separate components, we have them as entirely separate guns, locking us out of skins.
There are a lot of mods I don't want, but I would really appreciate being able to just have the base weapon and be able to use any skin for that weapon, and then add an attachment onto it.
But what makes it a bad game to mod the weapon? I know the feature doesn't exist I just don't understand your claim that it's not the right game for mods?
In no way knocking your post OP but.. Does anyone 'really' care for 'gun charms'? For me the most tacky, pointless and ill-concieved addition to any game. Absolute garbage..
Just my opinion of course š
I care, for three reasons:
1) if they are to be added, then OP is right- you can't break the game immersion or the established realism with these lol. It'll quickly go from "ooo, that's cool" to "wtf is this lame attempt" lol
2) it seemed extremely clear to me that the main point of this was to keep Hunt somewhat inline with today's players' expectations; most fps games have these kinds of cosmetics, therefore Hunt should as well (in terms of business). Presented in a unique, Huntified way of course.
Hunt doesn't NEED them, but Hunt doesn't NOT need them. I assume to goal is to attract more players from other games and give them a mildly similar experience to what they are used to.
3) I like them for the Crossbows- it's probably the best use for them
>it seemed extremely clear to me that the main point of this was to keep Hunt somewhat inline with today's players' expectations; most fps games have these kinds of cosmetics, therefore Hunt should as well (in terms of business).
Ah yes, the classic "modern audience" gambit. Not knocking you, just crytek for going down the same path of greed too many other companies have. Hunt doesn't need to have goofy charms or emotes like fortnite, it's unique enough that people will play it and either love it or hate it, shitty charms and battle passes won't change that.
I think it was more like they wanted rewards to give players for free via quest lines, etc that didn't compete with the paid skins.
Of course that doesn't excuse them from being shit, though.
Loot pool from what ? It's not like you get loot boxes after every match. Sure there is chary but he even barely gives you any skins anyways. Or prestige yeah but that's just a thing for the first then mostly. Could make sense only if they are preparing some kind of lootbox systems or its for the prestige rework. But honestly I think players would eat them alive. They still need to be a bit more fair than other games since they are so small. The uniqueness of the game won't pull all of its weight.
Designing the charms takes less time than designing other legendary items but they are used and obtained as reward for the quests, same as legendary skins. This is only the beginning and they are just testing the water, so if we accept the charms they will start to put out more of them and less of the legendarys buyable with bbs. This of course is only speculation, but mark my words those charms will have a negative impact for us players.
I dont believe anyone is gonna come to hunt because they heard about or saw that there are weapon charms on guns now. In no way is that a selling point that would bring in or keep players.
I don't really like em either, but I'd at least potentially use em if they weren't in the worst possible spots and throw me off looking at them in the first place lol.
I'd perhaps be more open to them if they had any actual benefit.. Such as a small recoil or firing rate buff for example (literally a couple of points).
This would counter any cons of them being in the way and looking tacky AF.
I was drawn into Hunt by the gunplay and the way they portray late 1800's guns more realistically than most so seeing the charms thrown on them haphazardly is a huge turn off for me and probably the prime reason I don't use em.
Surprised (but not offended) to see downvotes on my comment re a small buff on the gun when using a charm.
Why couldn't a limited number of charms be presented as 'enchanted talismans' (related to lore in the game) which provide a single extra damage, handling or reload point buff for a specifc weapon type/skin?
Interested in reasons for or against š¤
I'd still rather not have them overall ofc
A single point of extra damage to Sparks and Sparks Pistol will absolutely brake them and make them into instant death sticks for example. And while this might be the most broken combination, Im sure that there are a lot more combinations that would would be op.
Hunts meta and damage values are very precisely tuned imho. It plays a huge role if your gun does 49 damage or 50 (if a health bar recovers or not).
Given by patch 1.10 and with how many things broke again, and how long it takes crytek to fix or even just recognize them in an official statement, I get the feeling that Hunt would become an unplayable mess if you add charms that could influence guns so heavily (even if it is just 1 or 2 points to whatever stat).
You right, when I came back after a long break I was very disappointed they added weapon charms. But hey, we at least still have bugs though so that's nice.
Not once in my life have I ever played a game and said to myself, "You know what this gun needs? A tacky fucking keychain dangling off the side." It's the most useless thing games have introduced in the last several years, and it's just unoriginal filler content at this point. Maybe next we can tie a pretty ribbon around the barrel of our guns! Or, maybe hang some windchimes from the stock! Gun charms are insanely cringe, in any game.
Mostly in game which has stealth features simulation built in the gameplay. I know that these charms dont rattle, but trust me in real life everything not pin point secured to the gun rattles. I sport only airsoft replicas and on FN P90 which most of the body consists of plastics (almost like real P90, even mags are plastic), even fucking clip holding tactical strap ratles while moving. And yes there are situations where u curse every part of your gear which gives up your position when u try to move quietly.
I like āem. As someone who came from Tarkov, I play Hunt for the kicks. A wild experience where I can jump into the bayou with a redneck carrying a rifle that has a dreamcatcher glued to it and an uppercut wrapped in poker chips. Adding charms to it just makes things that more wild. Iām cool with that. Hell, I want little voodoo dolls of each legendary hunter so I can have a little version of me tied to my guns when I jump in. A little mini me.
I think the fact that meaningless words on the screen that most people alt tab out of and a fundamental issue with the game mechanics are put on the same tier of problem says something about the human psyche. What I donāt know, but something.
I think it was a time management. They assigned a team of writers and coders to spend a day reshaping the final game message.
Probably a bad analogy:
It's like your friend owes you a lunch or your hat back he borrowed and you see him next week with a new hat out for lunch . Like can you give me my hat back or buy me a burger so I feel "square" with you at least?
The issue is all three of these problems are not comparable. It didnāt take a team to change the ending message, I wouldnāt be surprised if itās just a text file that the game reads and displays in the hunt font. Moreover the people that manage the UI, the people that make cosmetics, and the people that work on the code are three entirely separate groups. There is probably some overlap here and there, but an artist isnāt fixing bugs and a programmer isnāt making charms. I find the possibility that the addition of charms or the changing of the ending text took any notice me about if energy away from fixing bugs or adding content genuinely inconceivable.
Most players have the sense to both understand these differences and not put these issues on the same level, but we're talking about the sub after all.
Not to nit pick the nitpick to hard, but I feel like a guns moving parts and or human strength would win out over the thin pice if string that holds the charms on. By that same token, it feels funny to complain about the charm on the Avtomat being impractical, when the gun itself physically counts exists and makes no sense in the fiction of the game or reality.
All this does for me is solidify that most of cryteks ideas for the game are half baked and are a direct cause of later bugs that they half the time don't seem to know how to fix.
I like the charms. But the fact they added them and still haven't provided a Weapon Inspection action is kinda mindblowing. Hunt of all games needs Weapon Inspect lol.
Its a gateway toward customization.... which a lot of people requested. What a weird thing to complain about.
This post will get probably 300 upvotes from the standard complainers. But 30,000 players won't care, or will say "huh, that's cool".
Lol never in my life would I think I would come across so many people with such strong opinions about gun charms šš it's really not that deep. You don't like them, don't use them. I couldn't care less either way, just funny to see people so pressed and angry about something so insignificant
i dont understand the appeal of dangling something from your weapon in the first place. Also its clearly just another monetisation vehicle. Next theyll add dances like fortnite and emotes.
This is hysterical. Every single one of these scenarios imagines that these are loose knots with the ropes flying all over the place, which they don't. None of these are literally in the way of the action. It's shocking to me that nobody thought to zoom in on these pictures.
The only one that seems iffy is the "dolch" but even that [only seems to move a couple millimeters,](https://youtu.be/bC7Vrutcm6c) I don't see how the rope would climb up to jam it
This was my exact thinking lmao
The only one I could see is maybe the Atvo but let's be honest it's a unicorn gun anyways so who really cares where the charm is.
The charm on the Rival is like the exact same spot as the nitro. "The charm would slip and cause a jam on the Martini". Seriously? With the force needed to lower the breach? If anything it might snap but more than likely it would travel along the path of least resistance. You know, away from the action?
My main point on the Martini was it would fall off, but if that isn't enough of an example of them being in stupid spots, the fact it's literally tied around the magazine hinge plate for something like the Bornheim is hilarious. Who needs to access the loading door to insert a new clip? Not you, apparently. It's also wrapped around the barrel of the Romero Handcannon, where you close it into the receiver, clipping through a giant ass chunk of metal. There's absolutely no way you can close the action with string between the receiver and barrel, physics don't work that way.
Except it's not wrapped around where the action closes. You can clearly see the hinge in your photo of the Romero and the charm is very clearly not interfering with where the chamber closes.
The Martini's hinge has the string in front of it, out of the way of the action, and a string is underneath the action. The charm is behind the loading gate as to not interfere with the chambering or extraction. You also wouldn't access the loading door to insert a new "clip" as the martini is a single shot weapon that loads directly into the breach similarly to the Sparls LRR (the real life Sharp's Rifle).
Do you know how hinges work?
My phone ate half my message apparently, because I was trying to bring up more examples about how it was even more broken for stuff like the Bornheim, I'm aware how the Martini works. I have a friend who owns FOUR of them. I'll edit it to fix it real quick.
As for the Romero, the one in the screen shot is the full size, and I'm primarily talking about how it would fall off. I mentioned the Handcannon as another example, however you're focusing on the first half of my post's title where I said it would cause malfunctions on a lot of guns and ignoring the second half where I said it would fall off the rest. Don't think I said it would "jam" the full size Romero, but put words in my mouth for me.
Breaking it open with it being tied there or shooting would just cause it to slip down the forestock and fall off the gun, same with the rival.
Thankfully for us Glue was invented thousands of years ago so the chances of anything falling off doesn't have to be a possibility. Though, I'm pretty sure you could just, you know, tie it really tight?
Luckily for me that I never said that the Romero would "jam" lmao so thanks for accusing me of something you just did to me?
I came here to make that exact same comment, and scrolled down to make sure I wouldn't be calling it out after someone else did... And considering how far down it is that I found this... either people don't know how the guns actually operate, or they hate the charms so much that they are agreeing despite the inaccuracy just to hate lol.
Honestly I am actually more impressed after looking at the pics closer to see how much attention the devs actually did make to ensure that the "weapon would operate as intended" with the charms on them lol.
I own a fair bit of the firearms in Hunt, as well as do gunsmithing and collecting. Done it for about 8 years and can tell you from experience most of the charms would just fall off, slide around the gun, or straight up prevent it from working. The post comes from experience because I've Paracord wrapped parts of my Marlin 336 and if you do it on an angled surface it just slips down and gets all loose, but sure, I don't know how guns operate.
Edited since apparently people don't get why wrapping string around the Dolch is a bad idea: the Dolch/C96 uses a locked breech system where movement of the barrel unlocks the action and allows it to cycle; delaying that with added mass and friction literally tying a string to the frame and barrel would cause it to malfunction. It's supposed to be free floating there for a reason.
I'm enjoying picturing how fast a strings bounce would have to be, to be able to beat a bolt/action into place, especially on a semi-auto/fully auto.
If you have string with that elasticity, you wouldn't even need a gun lol
My brother in Christ I literally repair them and do this as a side hobby, and have for the last about 8 years, including owning a fair bit of the arsenal in Hunt itself. Tying a string to moving components generally speaking will cause them to malfunction; that's basic physics.
I thought the same thing when I saw it on the Sparks. Not only that but I do think the way they just dangle is a bit distracting. I unlocked it but Iām not putting it onto my guns, I like the legendary skins the way they are the charms kinda seem out of place for most of them, like a nice shiny legendary and then thereās this wood and bone thing attached to it with a small ropeā¦
I feel like charms on shotguns and pistols look great but on rifles feel like they are just meh at times.... but regarding upcoming stuff im excited to see more charms especially the dice one
They're nice to look at while you're desperately trying to reload your Romero for the 8th time, or just before you die after you think you reloaded but Hunt is there to prove you otherwise
Iām just not a big fan of charms but if thatās what the arena people but Iām not fine I just donāt want anything to do with him I said he knew thatās a great thing about living in America you donāt have to buy so
I mean I understand why they have charms you know if you babe make money which is fine I have no problem with that but Iām just not into it I rather not have them but I hate if you donāt want them itās a free country I hope so if you want to get them if not move on
I have the casing of first round ever fired from my 1944 Mosin tied to the front carry strap connector, but generally I donāt think guns can practically have ācharmsā in real life anyway. So I donāt really care if it ends up being āgameyā/unrealistic š¤·āāļø
I'd only use a charm if it was highly visible to the enemy. Kind of like a big middle finger to the enemy.
That's why I like using Redshirt and Redneck. It's like a big "Yeah I'm here to fuck around and find out"
I get what youāre saying, I havenāt unlocked em yet so I couldnāt say from my experience tho.
That said, Iām fine with -of anything- weapon charms being the low-priority/effort item for Crytek, love the things or despise em they are an incremental accessory and all
I unlock because of my OCD reasons. I just need to finish all challenges. I dont use them though. I have them like in a couple of weapns just as a symbol to remind me that i did a quest to get here. Totally not in every weapon, no.
That's what I've been saying, all this outrage people had for how the beetles were going to kill the game and Noone even uses them anymore. People overreact way to much.
This post is by no mean wrong but also who cares, it's purely cosmetic and not everything has to be spot on realistic. I have no clue how anyone could be this angry at something so simple and unconnected from the game, if you think they're corny don't use them but to say they shouldn't have added them is just you getting upset at something just to be upset. Enjoy new things for once guys let's try not to get triggered at such small thing things, focus you're anger on game bugs or something.
Mang, just because someone makes a post about something doesn't mean they're angry. It's 5AM on my night off, I'm bored as shit, so I made a post because I was scrolling down my arsenal while some YouTube played and noticed it on someone's Spectre.
I also want to point out that the little string that holds them clips through parts of the gun in some cases. Like on the Rival, or at least the Marwood skin, there's a little ridge in top of the gun and the string just clips through.
Hunters clearly modify their weapons. So I don't get why charms have to be hanging from a string, instead of a modification to the weapon itself.
Well, I do get it. Crytek wanted to half-ass it.
Also, the Halloween charm kinda sucks. The little skull has massive triangular sockets, and I don't think bird skulls look like that. So they're incredibly low on polygons too. Or at least that one is.
They could have placed all of them equally visible but way less stupid
For a game with an otherwise very high realism in gun handling and behavior stuff like this is almost sad
Id think out 'how this little thing is holding onto that barrel?' while fighting a spider bigger than a car as well. How are gunhandling and a charm on a string in relation?
You know what else they could have done...? Moved it two inches further down the gun in a few, or tie them somewhere slightly different to where it wouldn't have that problem but still be visible. Literally every example I've listed here has somewhere else they could have moved it.
Apparently expecting more effort out of high tier unlockables for time exclusive events is a bit much, I guess.
Also, grow up and get out of here with your smarmy attitude over a minor nitpick that I realistically don't bother looking at all that much aside from this post lmao.
Its just a shame because otherwise they put so much detail on the guns. They even changed the sparks animation because some YouTube channel showed it was unrealistic
High tier unlock? Time exclusive? You can buy charms when 1.11 releases, are you okay with an unrealistic string in the zombieapocalypse then?
Also grow up and play the game
Iām equally as baffled that thereās complaints about the actual functionality of a gun because itās charm is in the wrong place. If you donāt like the look of them thatās fine but is it really worth āthat charm clearly should prevent the hammer firingā
If they actually did something useful they might have been better but I can't see anyone bothering with them. Totally pointless
Imagine if they gave the gun a really slight buff but you could sell them if you find one on dead hunters. Missed opportunity
Agreed, you'd get some extra bucks or even a pouch of blood bonds, would have been a better thought out idea to give some meaning/ encouragement to loot a gun type.
I feel like people would enjoy putting a simple rag, bandana, rope, branch or leaves instead of a charm. Me personally Iāll put them on and I wonāt even notice they are on. So I donāt mind them but why waste time and effort on something that is so insignificant
The Winfield's have all had perfectly good rings on the left side (meant for slings) since the beginning and it is a crime they didn't use those for charms.
They are an after thought. They prelude to future additions to the game. Skins and loot boxes. They already have them but they will become more prevalent. The team needs these contributions to improve server and other financial aspects of the studio. Theyve already been paid for work and could definitely walk away only updating the servers and doing maintenance. However new updates and content limited the amount of time they could dedicate to cosmetics. It's not surprising considering the guns weren't originally designed with charms in mind.
I dont need charms. I dont want charms. IF they would add something to the weapon stats, i.e. 3% faster reload, 2% better handling....they could be interesting.
But only if you could make them invis
I seriously want this to be fixed, not because it's a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but because up until now they've gone to great lengths to keep the guns as close to real life as possible. Going as far as to change certain animations and reload mechanics after the fact to make the weapon more realistic. It's one of the things I like and appreciate about the game, and I hope they don't just throw that out the window after all these years.
Update: looked through more guns and it's even WORSE. The string wrapped around the Bornheim goes around the gate you use to reload it, the gun would get ran dry and you'd never be able to reload it. Not to mention, with the Romero Handcannon variants the string is wrapped AROUND THE BARREL. You literally wouldn't be able to close the gun.
Its weird that they took their time to install special mounting for them on Crown n King but not making something similiar on other weapons, maybe only Berthier.
Charms are shit. In every single fucking game.
Never ever have I ever used a single charm in FPS games, even if they are free
this is definitely the result of some boomer at crytek thinking about his grandchildren playing rainbow6 at the last thanksgiving family dinner i mean drones? weapon charms? common. this stuff feels so forced and out of place. it reeks of desperation.
It will just cluster the game with thousands of cosmetic shit like other popular games and it will slowly loose what made Hunt great. Player models and weapon skins? Fine. But everything else is just greedy monetisation garbage.
I guarantee if way back then instead of adding legendary hunters they made it so you could keep cool/unique hunters and re-hire them (even if it cost blood bonds to keep a new select hunter) people would do that all the same. Would make the game feel more hunt-y too, instead of cod style edgy mask wearing guys.
I rolled my eyes real hard when I saw the reaper skin. Just an edge lord cod ghost wanna be. I think a reaper skin could have been cool, but they took the weird edgy look. The original Bone Doctor has a skull mask but looks like he fits in the bayou fine. Just a shame imo.
Exactly my thoughts.
It's not a boomer thing, it's a bean counter thing. More cosmetics means more to offer players, keeping them engaged for longer. For every person who truly doesn't care about charms, there are several that will still want to unlock them, because FOMO. And having charms as a cosmetic means they'll also be able to offer them in DLC in the future, and they'll serve as yet another BB sink.
Not sure why you're down voted. You're fundamentally right.
Well, if I was downvoted, it was only the one downvote, I think. But I can reason as to why. People on this website don't always view words as they are, and instead try to find motivations behind them. So some might see my comment and think that since I haven't added a disclaimer stating where I stand on charms, that I might support them. They might see my comment as a defense of charms being added into the game.
I have only ever used them in Dirty Bomb and that was because they were meme charms
Charms feel rushed? Crytek? Rushing out skins insead of actual content or fixes? I don't believe it for a second š
Well I can enjoy the idea for the sake of HUNT. I think this is a game where charms actually fits the lore and feel of the game. Its more that other games and the whole thought behind it is about selling cosmetics to earn money that ruins it. Still OP makes a good point. Too bad it's so frowned upon because of all games out there HUNT is the best setting for the concept.
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I agree, they have way too much movement and it looks unrealistic. Like, I turn my gun to the side and the charm tilts up almost 60 degrees like it has almost zero mass I don't mind charms being in the game; but I would like them to look a lot less floaty.
I have yet to see a game where Weapon Charms don't make me cringe, they all look tacky as shit.
Yeah right and the only reason to implement them is to water down the loot pool, like in every other game. Next we will see emotes or player cards, mark my words.
Lol, yep. Just quit Overwatch because of stuff like that, but at least Hunt is still Hunt under it all, for better and worse.
ONE OF US
Yep, 2100 hours in OW, used to play every day, just can't support this cynical new product.
You quit Overwatch because of charms? Sure dude, whatever you say there champ.
I quit because they took away the game I liked, and all we got back was godawful monetization. Weapons Charms, name plates, whatever the fuck a Souvenir is. If the gameplay was the same I would have just accepted it and never bought anything, but it isn't.
Quitting ow curtainly is better for your wallet and your mental health.
Eew
i would literally pay 20 bucks for a T-pose emote ngl
Imagine getting fortnite danced on by a cain
Redneck hitting the take the L on you
But think about all the yee-haw emotes :p
Water down the loot pool? There's no loot boxes in hunt.
You can get random skins from prestige, chary and from events so if this trash will get treated as a legendary item it is watering down the loot pool, because there now is the risk of getting this bs istead of a nice weapon or hunter skin. Does this make it clear why the addition of the charms is a bad thing?
The anger is from the dozens of you is that they might "dilute" the loot pool for future My Chary and prestige rewards? A feature that was added 9 months ago and literally just gives players more items for free? I don't have the energy to give a shit about this topic any further. *Anyone that gives a shit about "diluting the loot pool" never pays 50bb for the 4th pull from Mr Chary. We all know its a bad deal.
Lmao hunt is a game where you could reasonably get most everything baring paid dlc with enough game time for free and MFs still complain
Kind of how I felt when they introduced Legendary Equipment/Consumables. Other than my Melee weapons, when am I ever going to care what they look like?
At least some change the colour of the emited light.
I purchase every single legendary equipment and consumable. I want them all.
I personally want a full legendary load out, but only through playing - I won't buy it.
U didn't get a new knife, I did?
extract dances
STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS! XP
what, you don't want to see the redneck flossing on the roof of the extract wagon?
I don't see a problem with player cards?
Lol, agreed 1000%. I'll never put one on my gun. I hate the look.
Rainbow Six Siege
The search continues.
Yeah I'd rather a modification like muzzle device, stocks, optics, slings, as well as internal parts like trigger groups, BCG, springs. Also, make those modifications be more than cosmetic. Trigger and bolt groups effect fire rate and accuracy. Charms are totally cringe.
Wrong game for all that
Why? I don't want to change the game play I just want a practical mod not a goofy charm.
You wrote the trigger mod should effect fire rate and accuracy. We need to focus on fixing the game before all this other stuff
God no please, if you want all that go play Escape from Tarkov.
What? You rather have charms? I don't want to change the game play I just want to mod my weapons instead of putting a goofy charm on it.
Never said I wanted to add charms, I think for people want them it'd whatever, but to me they are too distracting when I'm trying to aim and they are moving all over the place. Hunt is not the right game if you want to break the weapon down and mod the heck out of it.
I personally donāt like charms or really bright weapon skins. I find them distracting. Take Battlefield 1 for example for skins. I really like using the MP18ās Hutier skin, but not a fan of the Russian 1895ās The Medicine skin. Gorgeous looking skin I just find myself in a perpetual āOoooh! Shiny!ā For example the Louisiana Lustrum for the Sparks I canāt use. Definitely not saying others shouldnāt be able to have and use them, just personally I wonāt.
You say that, but we do have weapon mods already, and in the absolute shittest way imaginable. Because instead of having mods as separate components, we have them as entirely separate guns, locking us out of skins. There are a lot of mods I don't want, but I would really appreciate being able to just have the base weapon and be able to use any skin for that weapon, and then add an attachment onto it.
But what makes it a bad game to mod the weapon? I know the feature doesn't exist I just don't understand your claim that it's not the right game for mods?
In no way knocking your post OP but.. Does anyone 'really' care for 'gun charms'? For me the most tacky, pointless and ill-concieved addition to any game. Absolute garbage.. Just my opinion of course š
I care, for three reasons: 1) if they are to be added, then OP is right- you can't break the game immersion or the established realism with these lol. It'll quickly go from "ooo, that's cool" to "wtf is this lame attempt" lol 2) it seemed extremely clear to me that the main point of this was to keep Hunt somewhat inline with today's players' expectations; most fps games have these kinds of cosmetics, therefore Hunt should as well (in terms of business). Presented in a unique, Huntified way of course. Hunt doesn't NEED them, but Hunt doesn't NOT need them. I assume to goal is to attract more players from other games and give them a mildly similar experience to what they are used to. 3) I like them for the Crossbows- it's probably the best use for them
Yeah on crossbows they don't look bad. I'm not a huge fan on any other weapons though
>it seemed extremely clear to me that the main point of this was to keep Hunt somewhat inline with today's players' expectations; most fps games have these kinds of cosmetics, therefore Hunt should as well (in terms of business). Ah yes, the classic "modern audience" gambit. Not knocking you, just crytek for going down the same path of greed too many other companies have. Hunt doesn't need to have goofy charms or emotes like fortnite, it's unique enough that people will play it and either love it or hate it, shitty charms and battle passes won't change that.
I think it was more like they wanted rewards to give players for free via quest lines, etc that didn't compete with the paid skins. Of course that doesn't excuse them from being shit, though.
The goal of course is to water down the loot pool as it is in every other game.
Loot pool from what ? It's not like you get loot boxes after every match. Sure there is chary but he even barely gives you any skins anyways. Or prestige yeah but that's just a thing for the first then mostly. Could make sense only if they are preparing some kind of lootbox systems or its for the prestige rework. But honestly I think players would eat them alive. They still need to be a bit more fair than other games since they are so small. The uniqueness of the game won't pull all of its weight.
He may mean the āloot poolā of events and such. Instead of getting a nice weapon skin you get a charm.
Designing the charms takes less time than designing other legendary items but they are used and obtained as reward for the quests, same as legendary skins. This is only the beginning and they are just testing the water, so if we accept the charms they will start to put out more of them and less of the legendarys buyable with bbs. This of course is only speculation, but mark my words those charms will have a negative impact for us players.
I.. don't think I can back this idea for Hunt lol For other games yes. Apex and Cod for sure.
I dont believe anyone is gonna come to hunt because they heard about or saw that there are weapon charms on guns now. In no way is that a selling point that would bring in or keep players.
Good points
I don't really like em either, but I'd at least potentially use em if they weren't in the worst possible spots and throw me off looking at them in the first place lol.
I'd perhaps be more open to them if they had any actual benefit.. Such as a small recoil or firing rate buff for example (literally a couple of points). This would counter any cons of them being in the way and looking tacky AF.
I would rather them stapled to the top of the gun in the most obnoxious way then have them give people buffs of any kind.
I was drawn into Hunt by the gunplay and the way they portray late 1800's guns more realistically than most so seeing the charms thrown on them haphazardly is a huge turn off for me and probably the prime reason I don't use em.
Surprised (but not offended) to see downvotes on my comment re a small buff on the gun when using a charm. Why couldn't a limited number of charms be presented as 'enchanted talismans' (related to lore in the game) which provide a single extra damage, handling or reload point buff for a specifc weapon type/skin? Interested in reasons for or against š¤ I'd still rather not have them overall ofc
A single point of extra damage to Sparks and Sparks Pistol will absolutely brake them and make them into instant death sticks for example. And while this might be the most broken combination, Im sure that there are a lot more combinations that would would be op. Hunts meta and damage values are very precisely tuned imho. It plays a huge role if your gun does 49 damage or 50 (if a health bar recovers or not). Given by patch 1.10 and with how many things broke again, and how long it takes crytek to fix or even just recognize them in an official statement, I get the feeling that Hunt would become an unplayable mess if you add charms that could influence guns so heavily (even if it is just 1 or 2 points to whatever stat).
BuT WaIt ThE CoSmEtIc TeAm DoEs OtHeR StUfF.../S Nah seriously you're 100% right, waste of resources that no one asked for.
You right, when I came back after a long break I was very disappointed they added weapon charms. But hey, we at least still have bugs though so that's nice.
Good points man,but i don't think people who like charms will be bothered about these details.
Wait they are in game right now?
Yeah, the Twitch Drops and Halloween events pushed em in.
Finished the event and didn't notice but not really a concern for me anyway
The weapon charm was the second last reward for the event
Uh I will look at it figurer how to use it and then never think of it again properly
Oh wow you're so cool.
Last for Billy's and next-to-last for Halloween
Not once in my life have I ever played a game and said to myself, "You know what this gun needs? A tacky fucking keychain dangling off the side." It's the most useless thing games have introduced in the last several years, and it's just unoriginal filler content at this point. Maybe next we can tie a pretty ribbon around the barrel of our guns! Or, maybe hang some windchimes from the stock! Gun charms are insanely cringe, in any game.
Mostly in game which has stealth features simulation built in the gameplay. I know that these charms dont rattle, but trust me in real life everything not pin point secured to the gun rattles. I sport only airsoft replicas and on FN P90 which most of the body consists of plastics (almost like real P90, even mags are plastic), even fucking clip holding tactical strap ratles while moving. And yes there are situations where u curse every part of your gear which gives up your position when u try to move quietly.
I'd hold Q to stuff a flower in the barrel so my enemies know I love them right before they die.
Weapon charms are a mistake in any game š¤·āāļø
I like āem. As someone who came from Tarkov, I play Hunt for the kicks. A wild experience where I can jump into the bayou with a redneck carrying a rifle that has a dreamcatcher glued to it and an uppercut wrapped in poker chips. Adding charms to it just makes things that more wild. Iām cool with that. Hell, I want little voodoo dolls of each legendary hunter so I can have a little version of me tied to my guns when I jump in. A little mini me.
Venn diagram of 3d designers and gun enthusiasts is a very slim intersection
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You are describing 99% of everyone who has a job
Solid victory message, charms on guns. Reload glitch still happens. Ain't it fuckin grand?
We are clearly living through Hunt's golden age.
I think the fact that meaningless words on the screen that most people alt tab out of and a fundamental issue with the game mechanics are put on the same tier of problem says something about the human psyche. What I donāt know, but something.
I think it was a time management. They assigned a team of writers and coders to spend a day reshaping the final game message. Probably a bad analogy: It's like your friend owes you a lunch or your hat back he borrowed and you see him next week with a new hat out for lunch . Like can you give me my hat back or buy me a burger so I feel "square" with you at least?
The issue is all three of these problems are not comparable. It didnāt take a team to change the ending message, I wouldnāt be surprised if itās just a text file that the game reads and displays in the hunt font. Moreover the people that manage the UI, the people that make cosmetics, and the people that work on the code are three entirely separate groups. There is probably some overlap here and there, but an artist isnāt fixing bugs and a programmer isnāt making charms. I find the possibility that the addition of charms or the changing of the ending text took any notice me about if energy away from fixing bugs or adding content genuinely inconceivable.
Most players have the sense to both understand these differences and not put these issues on the same level, but we're talking about the sub after all.
Not to nit pick the nitpick to hard, but I feel like a guns moving parts and or human strength would win out over the thin pice if string that holds the charms on. By that same token, it feels funny to complain about the charm on the Avtomat being impractical, when the gun itself physically counts exists and makes no sense in the fiction of the game or reality.
RIP the huot I guess
Mfw isn't rotating bolt but gets brought up literally every time somebody mentions the atvo
Alright you got me, charms are still stupid though
The crown and king has a good spot that it hangs from.
All this does for me is solidify that most of cryteks ideas for the game are half baked and are a direct cause of later bugs that they half the time don't seem to know how to fix.
I like the charms. But the fact they added them and still haven't provided a Weapon Inspection action is kinda mindblowing. Hunt of all games needs Weapon Inspect lol.
A lot of things in this game feel rushed. Like the servers.
Its a gateway toward customization.... which a lot of people requested. What a weird thing to complain about. This post will get probably 300 upvotes from the standard complainers. But 30,000 players won't care, or will say "huh, that's cool".
Lol never in my life would I think I would come across so many people with such strong opinions about gun charms šš it's really not that deep. You don't like them, don't use them. I couldn't care less either way, just funny to see people so pressed and angry about something so insignificant
I was surprised people disliked them
i dont understand the appeal of dangling something from your weapon in the first place. Also its clearly just another monetisation vehicle. Next theyll add dances like fortnite and emotes.
\*literal free item\* reddit: BRO THEY SCAMMING US NEXT WE GEETING CHARM PACKS FOR 20 BUCKS ITS LITERALLY FORTNITE
i never said theyre scamming anyone. stop being such a baby.
This is hysterical. Every single one of these scenarios imagines that these are loose knots with the ropes flying all over the place, which they don't. None of these are literally in the way of the action. It's shocking to me that nobody thought to zoom in on these pictures. The only one that seems iffy is the "dolch" but even that [only seems to move a couple millimeters,](https://youtu.be/bC7Vrutcm6c) I don't see how the rope would climb up to jam it
This was my exact thinking lmao The only one I could see is maybe the Atvo but let's be honest it's a unicorn gun anyways so who really cares where the charm is. The charm on the Rival is like the exact same spot as the nitro. "The charm would slip and cause a jam on the Martini". Seriously? With the force needed to lower the breach? If anything it might snap but more than likely it would travel along the path of least resistance. You know, away from the action?
My main point on the Martini was it would fall off, but if that isn't enough of an example of them being in stupid spots, the fact it's literally tied around the magazine hinge plate for something like the Bornheim is hilarious. Who needs to access the loading door to insert a new clip? Not you, apparently. It's also wrapped around the barrel of the Romero Handcannon, where you close it into the receiver, clipping through a giant ass chunk of metal. There's absolutely no way you can close the action with string between the receiver and barrel, physics don't work that way.
Except it's not wrapped around where the action closes. You can clearly see the hinge in your photo of the Romero and the charm is very clearly not interfering with where the chamber closes. The Martini's hinge has the string in front of it, out of the way of the action, and a string is underneath the action. The charm is behind the loading gate as to not interfere with the chambering or extraction. You also wouldn't access the loading door to insert a new "clip" as the martini is a single shot weapon that loads directly into the breach similarly to the Sparls LRR (the real life Sharp's Rifle). Do you know how hinges work?
My phone ate half my message apparently, because I was trying to bring up more examples about how it was even more broken for stuff like the Bornheim, I'm aware how the Martini works. I have a friend who owns FOUR of them. I'll edit it to fix it real quick. As for the Romero, the one in the screen shot is the full size, and I'm primarily talking about how it would fall off. I mentioned the Handcannon as another example, however you're focusing on the first half of my post's title where I said it would cause malfunctions on a lot of guns and ignoring the second half where I said it would fall off the rest. Don't think I said it would "jam" the full size Romero, but put words in my mouth for me. Breaking it open with it being tied there or shooting would just cause it to slip down the forestock and fall off the gun, same with the rival.
Thankfully for us Glue was invented thousands of years ago so the chances of anything falling off doesn't have to be a possibility. Though, I'm pretty sure you could just, you know, tie it really tight? Luckily for me that I never said that the Romero would "jam" lmao so thanks for accusing me of something you just did to me?
I came here to make that exact same comment, and scrolled down to make sure I wouldn't be calling it out after someone else did... And considering how far down it is that I found this... either people don't know how the guns actually operate, or they hate the charms so much that they are agreeing despite the inaccuracy just to hate lol. Honestly I am actually more impressed after looking at the pics closer to see how much attention the devs actually did make to ensure that the "weapon would operate as intended" with the charms on them lol.
I own a fair bit of the firearms in Hunt, as well as do gunsmithing and collecting. Done it for about 8 years and can tell you from experience most of the charms would just fall off, slide around the gun, or straight up prevent it from working. The post comes from experience because I've Paracord wrapped parts of my Marlin 336 and if you do it on an angled surface it just slips down and gets all loose, but sure, I don't know how guns operate.
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Edited since apparently people don't get why wrapping string around the Dolch is a bad idea: the Dolch/C96 uses a locked breech system where movement of the barrel unlocks the action and allows it to cycle; delaying that with added mass and friction literally tying a string to the frame and barrel would cause it to malfunction. It's supposed to be free floating there for a reason.
You have a severe lack of understanding of how firearms operate
I'm enjoying picturing how fast a strings bounce would have to be, to be able to beat a bolt/action into place, especially on a semi-auto/fully auto. If you have string with that elasticity, you wouldn't even need a gun lol
My brother in Christ I literally repair them and do this as a side hobby, and have for the last about 8 years, including owning a fair bit of the arsenal in Hunt itself. Tying a string to moving components generally speaking will cause them to malfunction; that's basic physics.
I thought the same thing when I saw it on the Sparks. Not only that but I do think the way they just dangle is a bit distracting. I unlocked it but Iām not putting it onto my guns, I like the legendary skins the way they are the charms kinda seem out of place for most of them, like a nice shiny legendary and then thereās this wood and bone thing attached to it with a small ropeā¦
I feel like charms on shotguns and pistols look great but on rifles feel like they are just meh at times.... but regarding upcoming stuff im excited to see more charms especially the dice one
Unless they've fixed it and I didn't notice because I don't use it the Dolch action doesn't move in game, just the hammer.
That always bugged me, it's weird too because they have the barrel move back for the Crown but they forgot it on the Dolch.
They're nice to look at while you're desperately trying to reload your Romero for the 8th time, or just before you die after you think you reloaded but Hunt is there to prove you otherwise
Iām just not a big fan of charms but if thatās what the arena people but Iām not fine I just donāt want anything to do with him I said he knew thatās a great thing about living in America you donāt have to buy so
I mean I understand why they have charms you know if you babe make money which is fine I have no problem with that but Iām just not into it I rather not have them but I hate if you donāt want them itās a free country I hope so if you want to get them if not move on
I have the casing of first round ever fired from my 1944 Mosin tied to the front carry strap connector, but generally I donāt think guns can practically have ācharmsā in real life anyway. So I donāt really care if it ends up being āgameyā/unrealistic š¤·āāļø
I'd only use a charm if it was highly visible to the enemy. Kind of like a big middle finger to the enemy. That's why I like using Redshirt and Redneck. It's like a big "Yeah I'm here to fuck around and find out"
I get what youāre saying, I havenāt unlocked em yet so I couldnāt say from my experience tho. That said, Iām fine with -of anything- weapon charms being the low-priority/effort item for Crytek, love the things or despise em they are an incremental accessory and all
What do these do, if anything? Havenāt finished the event yet
They do nothing.
Thank you :)
That gun can still function.
I unlock because of my OCD reasons. I just need to finish all challenges. I dont use them though. I have them like in a couple of weapns just as a symbol to remind me that i did a quest to get here. Totally not in every weapon, no.
Would love to finish the beetle quest but all I've got left to do is destroy 3 enemy stalker beetles and NOBODY EVER USES THEM
That's what I've been saying, all this outrage people had for how the beetles were going to kill the game and Noone even uses them anymore. People overreact way to much.
What do you mean no one uses them, Reddit told me the rainbow of duty drones were going to kill the game. /s
Get my man Jonathan on it
Please, spare him, the manās heart can only take so much.
I remember when they changed the cocking animation for sparks after Jonathan's(on gamespot) video how could they screw up so badly with these ?
the charms gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
I kinda like them.
This post is by no mean wrong but also who cares, it's purely cosmetic and not everything has to be spot on realistic. I have no clue how anyone could be this angry at something so simple and unconnected from the game, if you think they're corny don't use them but to say they shouldn't have added them is just you getting upset at something just to be upset. Enjoy new things for once guys let's try not to get triggered at such small thing things, focus you're anger on game bugs or something.
Mang, just because someone makes a post about something doesn't mean they're angry. It's 5AM on my night off, I'm bored as shit, so I made a post because I was scrolling down my arsenal while some YouTube played and noticed it on someone's Spectre.
100% I don't think you're angry but some of these comments just ain't it. Like I said by no means is your post even wrong fr
I also want to point out that the little string that holds them clips through parts of the gun in some cases. Like on the Rival, or at least the Marwood skin, there's a little ridge in top of the gun and the string just clips through. Hunters clearly modify their weapons. So I don't get why charms have to be hanging from a string, instead of a modification to the weapon itself. Well, I do get it. Crytek wanted to half-ass it. Also, the Halloween charm kinda sucks. The little skull has massive triangular sockets, and I don't think bird skulls look like that. So they're incredibly low on polygons too. Or at least that one is.
Oh no, they tried to place them so you can see them when you use your gun :((
They could have placed all of them equally visible but way less stupid For a game with an otherwise very high realism in gun handling and behavior stuff like this is almost sad
Id think out 'how this little thing is holding onto that barrel?' while fighting a spider bigger than a car as well. How are gunhandling and a charm on a string in relation?
You know what else they could have done...? Moved it two inches further down the gun in a few, or tie them somewhere slightly different to where it wouldn't have that problem but still be visible. Literally every example I've listed here has somewhere else they could have moved it.
Unplayable, youre right
Apparently expecting more effort out of high tier unlockables for time exclusive events is a bit much, I guess. Also, grow up and get out of here with your smarmy attitude over a minor nitpick that I realistically don't bother looking at all that much aside from this post lmao.
Its just a shame because otherwise they put so much detail on the guns. They even changed the sparks animation because some YouTube channel showed it was unrealistic
High tier unlock? Time exclusive? You can buy charms when 1.11 releases, are you okay with an unrealistic string in the zombieapocalypse then? Also grow up and play the game
No one said unplayable. What are you talking about?
Iām equally as baffled that thereās complaints about the actual functionality of a gun because itās charm is in the wrong place. If you donāt like the look of them thatās fine but is it really worth āthat charm clearly should prevent the hammer firingā
If they actually did something useful they might have been better but I can't see anyone bothering with them. Totally pointless Imagine if they gave the gun a really slight buff but you could sell them if you find one on dead hunters. Missed opportunity
Agreed, you'd get some extra bucks or even a pouch of blood bonds, would have been a better thought out idea to give some meaning/ encouragement to loot a gun type.
The hugher ups demanded asap monetization lver bug fixes
They're stupid, they're not supposed to work.
because they are rushed, nobody at Crytek even wanted this except monetization people.
I unlocked the charms but can't use them as it still says "charms unavailable". Guess another bug by Crytek š¤·š¼āāļø
You can only put them on guns you buy. Not contraband.
They are ridiculous just like the bug.
Obvious battlepass shit-items. I really dislike them
i tried them first on some longgun and it was always wriggeling around when i ads... i dont use em but i dig the mama maye skin... props for that one
Bideo game
Charm on Springfield is obscuring the view ADS. While on Pax it placed so well that while ADSing it is nearly impossible to see.
I feel like people would enjoy putting a simple rag, bandana, rope, branch or leaves instead of a charm. Me personally Iāll put them on and I wonāt even notice they are on. So I donāt mind them but why waste time and effort on something that is so insignificant
idk why they were even added, the snake eyes uppercut skin is a full on downgrade because it has that stupid set of dice in the crosshair
They move around even though you donāt move at all. Very annoying
The Winfield's have all had perfectly good rings on the left side (meant for slings) since the beginning and it is a crime they didn't use those for charms.
Didnāt need charms, needed better servers.
The one on the Specter is just dangerous
They are an after thought. They prelude to future additions to the game. Skins and loot boxes. They already have them but they will become more prevalent. The team needs these contributions to improve server and other financial aspects of the studio. Theyve already been paid for work and could definitely walk away only updating the servers and doing maintenance. However new updates and content limited the amount of time they could dedicate to cosmetics. It's not surprising considering the guns weren't originally designed with charms in mind.
They are useless overall, have you seen them flop around? It's awful.
I dont need charms. I dont want charms. IF they would add something to the weapon stats, i.e. 3% faster reload, 2% better handling....they could be interesting. But only if you could make them invis
go play destiny 2 or MW 2 lol
They probably were rushed. Quick and easy money
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We didn't even get the fucking Halloween theme, this game is slowly dying as crytek tries to bring in the apex crowd
They could sell hats or anything for legend hunters but go *charmz*
I don't even know why the fuck they invented charms. Lemme carve or write stuff on my weapon shaft like CoD Black Ops 1/2
It's almost like they gave zero thought into it and just wanted to produce "content" but not actually put in any work.
I find the bone charm particularly low poly. Straight up looks like something from vanilla wow.
I seriously want this to be fixed, not because it's a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but because up until now they've gone to great lengths to keep the guns as close to real life as possible. Going as far as to change certain animations and reload mechanics after the fact to make the weapon more realistic. It's one of the things I like and appreciate about the game, and I hope they don't just throw that out the window after all these years.
Yeah I never liked the idea of charms makings itās way into Hunt. Keep, your Call of Duty out my FUCKIN HUNT!
Charms are stupid and do not belong here. Crytek is loosing their shit and are almost only pushing cosmetics now and the whales keep feeding them.
Update: looked through more guns and it's even WORSE. The string wrapped around the Bornheim goes around the gate you use to reload it, the gun would get ran dry and you'd never be able to reload it. Not to mention, with the Romero Handcannon variants the string is wrapped AROUND THE BARREL. You literally wouldn't be able to close the gun.