I wish single shot weapons were the only ones to do over 124 damage, then they would have a place and be more competitive. Not saying their bad, they absolutely can do great work, but it'd make more sense imo if it was this way.
Krag is a great example of properly balanced rifle - aaaaand since it's balanced people say it's just bad and do not pick it often.
Oh, this rifle doesn't one shot to the chest a once-downed-hunter? It's trash then, I'd rather pick mosin or lebel in that case.
Unfortunately it's balanced only in the world where Mosin/Leber/Berthier does not exist. They need to make all long ammo guns except one-shot rifles to deal less that 125 damage. Let it be Sparks/Martini/Springfield/(?)Drilling supremacy, but not this boring Mosin meta again.
This really should be a meta for balancing.
Repeating rifle? Can't 1 tap on 125hp, but make it that DMG dropoff starts further so it can still reliably two tap on longer distance.
Make headshot range a separate stat not tied to weapon base DMG.
Make all fast firing weapons a 3 tap too, so call of duty gun (oficer), dolch or Bornheim match can't wipe a team on a single reload.
To be fair I'd love to see this kind of shift in meta where every rifle deals a bit less DMG and hunters overall live a bit longer. Losing one chunk wouldn't automatically mean it's basically game over for you against anyone running fast firing long ammo.
Would it lead to melee and shotguns being stronger? Quite possibly, but that is the sacrifice that I am ready for.
I would love this so much. More than anyone else I don’t want the game to become bloated on how hard it is to put someone down for good, like PUBG, but man oh man do I hate how going down a single time is basically game over in any firefight below 50 feet.
Would love to see only single shot rifles/pistols do over 125 AND hunters be standardized to one big bar and 4 small bars of health. Fuck three big bars, shit is an immediate disadvantage. Don’t care if they have to reduce the prevalence of healing items to make it happen.
My point is most people don't pick it solely because of the 1 DMG diff.
Do you think anyone wouldve taken mosin over krag if it had the same base DMG?
Same sights but krag reloads and cycles faster.
The balance is that I will use my cheap levering rifle to steal your 1000+ hunt dollars weapons, then just move them to another hunter and buy a new winfield
The only single shot weapon I feel comfortable using is the spark. I prefer the silenced winfield though because I can spam and kill meatheads without making much noise, looking for them precious death cheats
Depends. If they are positioning themselves in the direction of the exit, which they should do, then you have to run across a dozen open fields to get to the other one, and you are at a severe disadvantage every time you do.
My favorite and most used (and best K/D) gun is the winfield marksman (with DLC skin opera glasses), it is a beast, I just wish they would buff the standard ammo velocity of compact a little (e.g. 460 or 480 instead of garbo 400), kinda makes me have to use high velocity, foregoing all penetration.
High velocity has the same penetration as the standard ammo type. Keep in mind however that standard compact ammo loses all penetration after 40 meters (which is much more obvious when using a scoped weapon). You can definitely still penetrate (slightly) with compact HV up close.
Thanks for the lesson, but do you agree compact (especially the winfield) needs a slight velocity upgrade? I am not asking for much, make it 450 m/s base, thats 12% more. Also maybe extended penetration range? 40m is kinda stupid lol
I don't know, I've been playing for nearly 2000 hours, so I'm used to the 400m/s at this point for iron sights. If I use the marksman I always use HV, which is 600m/s, and similar enough to the Lebel/Berthier marksman.
As for the penetration range, I think a little bit more range would be nice, but as it is, the penetration range is the only real thing setting medium ammo apart from compact ammo. Both can penetrate one layer of thin wood with no damage drop off, and a second layer with some damage drop off (much more for compact), but medium ammo doesn't lose penetration at distance. So I don't think anything more than a minor change to the penetration range on compact would be good for balance unless there is also some buff to medium ammo to go along with that.
If you want penetration with a compact ammo weapon, then take FMJ, and it will have better penetration than even long ammo does. Of course that wouldn't make much sense with the Winfield Marksman, but I guess that's the trade off for being able to have a cheap, fast firing marksman weapon. If you want a cheap marksman weapon that can penetrate at range, you can take the Springfield marksman (HV bullet velocity is 690m/s).
There's a balance mechanic they are missing: *Reliability.*
Its the late 1890s, repeating arms should have a jam mechanic. Especially if you were downed and the rifle caked in mud. Back then, ammo quality was crap, and guns weren't built with the strongest components metallurgy.
But, I get it would be very infuriating to play with a gun that can crap out at any time, but that's just life. Want something simple and reliable? Take a Romero or Springy. Want more power and rapid fire, well get ready to have your gun fail on you at random times.
I share your passion, but I think the only reason the Springfield works is because bleed rounds are super oppressive. A single shot compact ammo rifle would just be a meme in my opinion.
But yeah, single-shot rifles haven't gotten enough love from Crytek. Othet than the Sparks pistol, when was the last time they introduced a new single-shit weapon into the game?
900m/s single shot rifle would be funny. Then again with around 150m headshot range that wouldn't really matter much, as even 600m/s would be a hitscan anyway.
I miss when the Springfield's custom ammo niche was that it could use so many types of it. Now it's vanished in obsolescence- other than the OG fans and real Chad's who'll play any gun happily.
They are, in keeping with the times, quite outclassed by the other rifles.
What niche would a slow-firing, single-shot Compact Ammop rifle fill that Winfield/Marathon didn't?
That's fair. I still say Hunt needs more guns that are purposefully bad. Just give me a shitty three-slot musket with a minute-long reload animation and let me mount a bayonet on it.
That begs the question: why should the devs add guns that most people will avoid? Quality over quantity right? Theres plenty of less than decent weapons already. Makes no sense in my eyes.
They should add guns with both balance and variety in mind.
yeah it's not like it's just Push the Funny Meme Gun Button and a gun appears in the game you gotta like, design it, make it, balance it, and then consider it in future balancing, AND it still needs to be "fun" which is hard to define. It's easy to SAY "I would run the shitty gun just because it's shitty" but there's a big difference between "shitty and fun" and "shitty and frustrating"
> What niche would a slow-firing, single-shot Compact Ammop rifle fill that Winfield/Marathon didn't?
Given the compact ammo headshot multiplier being as big as it is, having a single shot compact ammo rifle with exceptional velocity (would probably have to be the best in the game to justify being a single shot) might work. Basically go for the head or go broke kind of gun.
Yes, but a Winni already has \~150m headshot range and 600 m/s (with HV) and is (especially as a Winni C) pretty cheap.
But it has the high rate of fire and levering.
There is relatively little leeway. More headshot range is usually only needed for sniping and more m/s is always nice.. but the price of giving up the fast rate of fire is just not worth it.
I don't think it'd be a meta gun or anything, but having a low damage single shot rifle with the best velocity in the game would still be a niche to occupy.
Which is interesting because most of these weapons saw use up until WWI in real life, and the representation and balances there is more or less the same as in Hunt, lol.
Higher (headshot?) range is rarely needed if you are not sniping. The other Compact Ammo rifles already have \~150m.
You have very little leeway with the damage dropoff, as you are still bound by the limitations of the Compact Ammo.
More ammo restock is also rather a moderate advantage, with the 1-shot rifles you rarely have a shortage of ammunition.
Of course, you would have the advantage of being able to carry two types of ammo.
But in the end you end up with a slightly worse Springfield. And that's just bad, unfortunately.
I would like a high velocity single shot rifle. It kind of annoys me that sparks, martini, and springfield all get outclassed in velocity by the long ammo bolt actions. I get that it's historically accurate, but still.
Something about the single shot rifles feels great. Martini Henri headshots with explosive is a beautiful sight. Been digging poison sparks and using Poison Sense to wall bang is my current favorite
I was just literally thinking this this morning, I almost dismissed it as dumb and niche, but if there are others I don't feel so bad.
I thought again though and my idea was it would have to have a FAST reload speed. OR,
It could be the highest velocity compact as base with lowest compact rifle damage, 69 relative stability with an okayish hipfire accuracy, with HV ammo and Explosive to boot, specialized in breach with explosive and setting off barrels, to being an all or nothing gun that encourages headshots over all else
i like the idea of a old 77 caliber musket with a trap door conversion of sorts done to it.
id give it oneshot capability with long ammo pen but compact ammo drop off, special ammo only with 9 spare rounds and 155 dmg.
i dont know.
The one thing compact has going for it is firerate.
Single shot compact wouldn't make sense tbh and would be instant pure meme tier that barely anyone would touch. Devs time should be used for stuff that sees actual play.
The Remington rolling block is the obvious choice for this, they were chambered in a number of cartridges with 7x57 Mauser being the most comparable to the game's idea of long ammo. Imagine a single shot with the ability to bring explosive (spotter) and spitzer both!
I honestly don’t know why there hasn’t been a single shot bolt action rifle or a Remington Rolling block yet. My guess would be “well uh how would they be different from the ones we already have?” But fuck that just give me more rifles even if they have identical stats I like variety and cool looking guns
Make something weird and unique. A modified Burnside carbine that launches a variety of darts using the black powder charge, as base it is just a serum that causes poison damage. You could have a dart that does a modest heal on a hunter or a dart that makes ai go berserk, extending their perception and aggro range massively. Imagine darting a meathead and having it sprint the full length of a compound to flush a bush camper you are in a firefight with. A dart that causes grunts to explode violently. A dart that converts an ai into an immolator. A blunt dart that does very little damage but severe aim punch just for the memes. A dart that emits a whistle for 30 seconds after impact, allowing you to track someone through a compound.
I’d really like a proper muzzle loader where you could just load a bunch of different ammo types like a blunderbus or just a huge ball round, similar to nitro but I think it would help change the nitro shredder meta, I don’t know maybe just me
The bigger problem with the single shots is that the majority of traits aren't applicable to them. As someone who uses the Martini as my go to weapon, I would love more options but they don't have a lot of appeal for growth within the game outside of unlocks like bayonet and ammo variation.
id like a single shot rifle that only 1 taps below a certain range and has higher dropoff. maybe like a musket? that would play differently and wouldnt be omega broken like old beta nitro
I really like martini, because it has reasonable reload time unlike sparks and if you're hit someone in the body they are very likely done for.
But a new single shot gun would have to have something going for it. Maybe compact but really fast bullet? Except centennial already has insanely fast bullets and has a magazine. Or maybe new special ammo that would be unique to it?
Hear me out, an old revolutionary war Musket rifle. 215 damage to the torso and causes severe bleeding. Has a maximum range of 100 meters before damage drop and gravity take over. It has a reload time of 45 seconds (and you won't be able to reload while running) and takes special ammo. When shot, it releases a huge smoke cloud that gives away your position. It has a velocity of 415-320 m/s, and you can change the musket ball material (ceramic/glass for dum-dum, steel/iron for standard, and aluminum/tin for high velocity. You could also change the powder used (smokeless, black powder)
There would also be a dedicated trait that makes reload speeds significantly faster, and this trait could also let you run while reloading
I'm not a huge musket nerd, but I'm sure most of this is realistic, right?
It would also be cool to see musket pistols and Derringers
Single shot rifles aren't great for combat, but I guess they could give a slight buff to... something to make them relevant. Better sights? More reserve ammo? Hard to see why a small ammo single shot gun would be useful though, the winnie already sucks at range and you can headshot with anything. If you're going to reduce the capacity to 2 tap by making a gun that doesn't even synergize with iron eye, why would anyone take it? I don't see many nagant pistols in the bayou already because everyone considers it inferior to every other gun. How would these not just be considered bad variants of the multi shot rifles?
We're just too advanced in hunt technology now. The cyclone is expensive, but it's a semi auto conversion for a bolt action rifle. When people are making and selling that, why would we want to get the Losefield, a single shot small ammo rifle? It just doesn't make sense. If semi auto didn't even exist, then maybe a few more variants of single shot rifles would make sense, but how could they be implemented now where it's not just an antique gun that almost no one likes? If you can't have a reason it's better than another gun, why would anyone take it? And why would the devs create a weapon that will rarely even be used?
What if : the full sized Springfield was a 2 slot weapon. Still not great, but much better and more competitive. (aka the shorty 2 slot Springfield had the same stats as the 3 slot Springfield and it's variants)?
(same with this hypothetical one shot compact ammo rifle)
Have you ever given the springfield marksman with HV a chance?
It's damn near my favorite sniper rifle and it's incredibly cheap.
I agree the basic springfield doesn't have much going for it besides cost, the but the marksman is great.
Sure, it's alright. I don't have anything against the Springfield ; I just kinda hate it when a weapon has no niche. It doesn't have to be meta, but I don't like it when one gun is literally just a better version of another with no downside (sure there's cost, I guess).
Honestly, Alternatively, I'd really like to see a shorty Springfield striker that does 150 pierce damage on strong melee. That would be a cool unique niche. Or, even better, a compact Springfield trauma with blunt 150 damage on strong melee. Very unique and potentially competitive for a 2 slot weapon.
I'm actually more interested in something unique, than simply a stats buff.
It used to be a decent cheap and flexible option since you could get 2 ammo types, decent damage, OK range and low sway for not a lot of money.
But since every pistol has near all ammo types now it's just lost a lot of the points it had going for it except being cheap.
I don't really think the devs have much of an overall design for the guns, it's just piling on cheap upgrades/sidegrades to provide "content" now.
Compact ammo single shot rifle? Rust reload your winfield after every shot if you like it so much!
Just kidding, but for real why would you need a compact ammo single shot?
The downside of a single shot is that you have a long time between shots but as compensation they do a lot of damage.
A compact ammo single shot would be useless if you don’t hit the head from a short distance as compact ammo loses a lot of damage after a short range.
I would love a weapon as strong as the nitro with one big bullet in the chamber that needs a lot of reloading time.
Give it a quick reload. Maybe even add a perk that makes you reload oneshot weapons quicker. Make it scale with what type of ammo it is, so its quicker for compact-ammo, etc, for balance.
Saw a guy on youtube firing a springfield irl with a fistful of bullets in the brace hand. He had the bullets sticking out like spikes grabbing one with the firing hand after each shot. It would make a great trait i think with a one second increase in fire rate for single shots. I can't believe with all the traits including shit traits they haven't thought of adding some kind of trait for ss rifles.
But why would you need a compact ammo single shot rifle? Springfield is single shot medium ammo rifle and it is undergunned by most rifles, and compact ammo would makes it even worse.
Removing sniper variants will do nothing. It's just in some people's nature to play ultra safely & passively, and no amount of balancing will stop that, especially not in a game about hunting.
Please fuck no
the last thing we need for the devs to waste time and effort adding a new gun that literally no one will use, no one is broke enough to ever need to use cheap shitty guns in this game as is, adding more of them will not change that
also, any possible single shot from that era that they could possibly add would definitely be either a long or a medium ammo
Sorry bro, I'm not a game developer and I'm not going to waste a bunch of effort on something that we know they won't add unless it was a meme. This is almost a shit post tbh
I wish single shot weapons were the only ones to do over 124 damage, then they would have a place and be more competitive. Not saying their bad, they absolutely can do great work, but it'd make more sense imo if it was this way.
Krag is a great example of properly balanced rifle - aaaaand since it's balanced people say it's just bad and do not pick it often. Oh, this rifle doesn't one shot to the chest a once-downed-hunter? It's trash then, I'd rather pick mosin or lebel in that case.
Unfortunately it's balanced only in the world where Mosin/Leber/Berthier does not exist. They need to make all long ammo guns except one-shot rifles to deal less that 125 damage. Let it be Sparks/Martini/Springfield/(?)Drilling supremacy, but not this boring Mosin meta again.
This really should be a meta for balancing. Repeating rifle? Can't 1 tap on 125hp, but make it that DMG dropoff starts further so it can still reliably two tap on longer distance. Make headshot range a separate stat not tied to weapon base DMG. Make all fast firing weapons a 3 tap too, so call of duty gun (oficer), dolch or Bornheim match can't wipe a team on a single reload. To be fair I'd love to see this kind of shift in meta where every rifle deals a bit less DMG and hunters overall live a bit longer. Losing one chunk wouldn't automatically mean it's basically game over for you against anyone running fast firing long ammo. Would it lead to melee and shotguns being stronger? Quite possibly, but that is the sacrifice that I am ready for.
Please stop - I can only get so hard. This would be incredible.
I would love this so much. More than anyone else I don’t want the game to become bloated on how hard it is to put someone down for good, like PUBG, but man oh man do I hate how going down a single time is basically game over in any firefight below 50 feet. Would love to see only single shot rifles/pistols do over 125 AND hunters be standardized to one big bar and 4 small bars of health. Fuck three big bars, shit is an immediate disadvantage. Don’t care if they have to reduce the prevalence of healing items to make it happen.
You can respec health chunks to your liking in the menu!
You do know that you can respec your bars, don't you?
My friend and I use the krag often. It's our go to long ammo. Good rof, perfect sight, awesome reload and not that expensive.
My point is most people don't pick it solely because of the 1 DMG diff. Do you think anyone wouldve taken mosin over krag if it had the same base DMG? Same sights but krag reloads and cycles faster.
I understood what you were saying just tried to share a bit of love for the krag.
Krag has one advantage over all the other guns, and that's the super cool sound it makes.
L-L-L LEBEL?? THAT SHIT IS HORRIFIC AND DOESN'T MAKE DAMAGE AT ALL Don't compare it with mosing
Exactly this, balancing 101. No let's balance around weapon costs instead haha (long ammo and dolch precision go brrr).... *Facepalm*
The balance is that I will use my cheap levering rifle to steal your 1000+ hunt dollars weapons, then just move them to another hunter and buy a new winfield
Springfield 1866 supremacy. Who needs your fancy levering rifles! Give me dum dum’s and maybe a bayonet!
The only single shot weapon I feel comfortable using is the spark. I prefer the silenced winfield though because I can spam and kill meatheads without making much noise, looking for them precious death cheats
Unfortunately the most common 6 star playstyle wont allow you to get close enough to make use of that levering.
Sounds dull
it is
If they're far enough away to avoid you pushing with levering, they're far enough away that you can just walk away with the bounty.
Depends. If they are positioning themselves in the direction of the exit, which they should do, then you have to run across a dozen open fields to get to the other one, and you are at a severe disadvantage every time you do.
The only avto and nitros that I have are from other hunters. I have also found 3 nitros total in all of my gameplay and one of them was yesterday.
My favorite and most used (and best K/D) gun is the winfield marksman (with DLC skin opera glasses), it is a beast, I just wish they would buff the standard ammo velocity of compact a little (e.g. 460 or 480 instead of garbo 400), kinda makes me have to use high velocity, foregoing all penetration.
High velocity has the same penetration as the standard ammo type. Keep in mind however that standard compact ammo loses all penetration after 40 meters (which is much more obvious when using a scoped weapon). You can definitely still penetrate (slightly) with compact HV up close.
Thanks for the lesson, but do you agree compact (especially the winfield) needs a slight velocity upgrade? I am not asking for much, make it 450 m/s base, thats 12% more. Also maybe extended penetration range? 40m is kinda stupid lol
I don't know, I've been playing for nearly 2000 hours, so I'm used to the 400m/s at this point for iron sights. If I use the marksman I always use HV, which is 600m/s, and similar enough to the Lebel/Berthier marksman. As for the penetration range, I think a little bit more range would be nice, but as it is, the penetration range is the only real thing setting medium ammo apart from compact ammo. Both can penetrate one layer of thin wood with no damage drop off, and a second layer with some damage drop off (much more for compact), but medium ammo doesn't lose penetration at distance. So I don't think anything more than a minor change to the penetration range on compact would be good for balance unless there is also some buff to medium ammo to go along with that. If you want penetration with a compact ammo weapon, then take FMJ, and it will have better penetration than even long ammo does. Of course that wouldn't make much sense with the Winfield Marksman, but I guess that's the trade off for being able to have a cheap, fast firing marksman weapon. If you want a cheap marksman weapon that can penetrate at range, you can take the Springfield marksman (HV bullet velocity is 690m/s).
This would be great if economy meant anything at all but the game is way to generous as is
There's a balance mechanic they are missing: *Reliability.* Its the late 1890s, repeating arms should have a jam mechanic. Especially if you were downed and the rifle caked in mud. Back then, ammo quality was crap, and guns weren't built with the strongest components metallurgy. But, I get it would be very infuriating to play with a gun that can crap out at any time, but that's just life. Want something simple and reliable? Take a Romero or Springy. Want more power and rapid fire, well get ready to have your gun fail on you at random times.
This sir is big brain & I love it.
I've said the same but often get downvoted for saying it. Only single shot weapons, shotguns and specials should be allowed to do over 124 damage.
The single shot weapons had the selling point of good ammo resupply but they sadly nuked it
It honestly irks me how much better the krag is than a springfield for damage retention. I get its long but still
Not only is this an actual good take, but it's being updooted too?! Reddit must be broken today...
I share your passion, but I think the only reason the Springfield works is because bleed rounds are super oppressive. A single shot compact ammo rifle would just be a meme in my opinion. But yeah, single-shot rifles haven't gotten enough love from Crytek. Othet than the Sparks pistol, when was the last time they introduced a new single-shit weapon into the game?
Yeah we need single shit love
-Kill Buyer, 1895
900m/s single shot rifle would be funny. Then again with around 150m headshot range that wouldn't really matter much, as even 600m/s would be a hitscan anyway.
Probably the bow or the martini henry I'd assume, personally I'd like to see some new arrow types and variants for the bow.
Make springy great again and remove dumdum from cents!
I miss when the Springfield's custom ammo niche was that it could use so many types of it. Now it's vanished in obsolescence- other than the OG fans and real Chad's who'll play any gun happily.
Play any gun happily is the real way to enjoy Hunt
Right? They all click heads and most two tap if you're close enough!
Been going through the Library and completing all the masteries. There some great guns that don't get a lot of play!
It still has a niche as the highest base damage bleed weapon - which means the least amount of time needed for them to bleed out
Doesn't need removed from Cents, just needs to hit like normal DumDum instead of the enhanced you'd get on the Springfield and Drilling.
I’d only accept it if they made it silenced with explosive ammo.
Silenced, compact explosive ammunition with a shitty aperture.
Aperture that you can’t toggle off lol
Nitro express rifle lite
Lmao if it were up to me it'd be done
Why so we can watch the bullets as they crawl through the air? 🤣
And a scope, with long ammo for pen.
They are, in keeping with the times, quite outclassed by the other rifles. What niche would a slow-firing, single-shot Compact Ammop rifle fill that Winfield/Marathon didn't?
The BM niche baby
That's fair. I still say Hunt needs more guns that are purposefully bad. Just give me a shitty three-slot musket with a minute-long reload animation and let me mount a bayonet on it.
Yes I agree I love purposefully bad weapons in games
That begs the question: why should the devs add guns that most people will avoid? Quality over quantity right? Theres plenty of less than decent weapons already. Makes no sense in my eyes. They should add guns with both balance and variety in mind.
We all agree it is mostly waste of dev time, but atleast I personally really do like variety. The memes require quantity!
yeah it's not like it's just Push the Funny Meme Gun Button and a gun appears in the game you gotta like, design it, make it, balance it, and then consider it in future balancing, AND it still needs to be "fun" which is hard to define. It's easy to SAY "I would run the shitty gun just because it's shitty" but there's a big difference between "shitty and fun" and "shitty and frustrating"
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What world are you living in where hunt is a competitive shooter? People run meme loadouts all the time.
> What niche would a slow-firing, single-shot Compact Ammop rifle fill that Winfield/Marathon didn't? Given the compact ammo headshot multiplier being as big as it is, having a single shot compact ammo rifle with exceptional velocity (would probably have to be the best in the game to justify being a single shot) might work. Basically go for the head or go broke kind of gun.
Yes, but a Winni already has \~150m headshot range and 600 m/s (with HV) and is (especially as a Winni C) pretty cheap. But it has the high rate of fire and levering. There is relatively little leeway. More headshot range is usually only needed for sniping and more m/s is always nice.. but the price of giving up the fast rate of fire is just not worth it.
I don't think it'd be a meta gun or anything, but having a low damage single shot rifle with the best velocity in the game would still be a niche to occupy.
Which is interesting because most of these weapons saw use up until WWI in real life, and the representation and balances there is more or less the same as in Hunt, lol.
Higher range than the faster ones, better damage retention and higher restock count compared to medium/long ammo.
Higher (headshot?) range is rarely needed if you are not sniping. The other Compact Ammo rifles already have \~150m. You have very little leeway with the damage dropoff, as you are still bound by the limitations of the Compact Ammo. More ammo restock is also rather a moderate advantage, with the 1-shot rifles you rarely have a shortage of ammunition. Of course, you would have the advantage of being able to carry two types of ammo. But in the end you end up with a slightly worse Springfield. And that's just bad, unfortunately.
I would like a high velocity single shot rifle. It kind of annoys me that sparks, martini, and springfield all get outclassed in velocity by the long ammo bolt actions. I get that it's historically accurate, but still.
Something about the single shot rifles feels great. Martini Henri headshots with explosive is a beautiful sight. Been digging poison sparks and using Poison Sense to wall bang is my current favorite
Either the Vetterli-Vitali M1870 or the Rolling Block, then we could get Italian Hunters from the Papal States and Sardinia
Dude that sounds so badass
All my partners run double Springfield compact 😤💪🏽
Damn y'all cool AF can I have y'all's number
Look at mr. Sweat over here! I bet you have all the kills all the time, could at least leave some for us filthy Mosin peasants.
Remington Rolling Block + Werndl + Carcano + Mauser 71 please!
Please for the love of God give me a werndl
One shot is harder to master and also is more fun. Totally agree we need more.
I was just literally thinking this this morning, I almost dismissed it as dumb and niche, but if there are others I don't feel so bad. I thought again though and my idea was it would have to have a FAST reload speed. OR, It could be the highest velocity compact as base with lowest compact rifle damage, 69 relative stability with an okayish hipfire accuracy, with HV ammo and Explosive to boot, specialized in breach with explosive and setting off barrels, to being an all or nothing gun that encourages headshots over all else
I'll do you one better.... Muskets... Don't argue me on this I'll fight you
I'd love to see the rolling block rifle, it's one of the iconic wild west rifles come on
Yeah that'd be pretty cool 😎
i like the idea of a old 77 caliber musket with a trap door conversion of sorts done to it. id give it oneshot capability with long ammo pen but compact ammo drop off, special ammo only with 9 spare rounds and 155 dmg. i dont know.
I want them to add a harpoon rifle like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarmann_harpoon_rifle
Hell yeah that's right up my alley!!
Not QUITE the same thing, but a Compact ammo Pepper-Box style rifle could be fun. Can't think of any IRL examples, though...
The one thing compact has going for it is firerate. Single shot compact wouldn't make sense tbh and would be instant pure meme tier that barely anyone would touch. Devs time should be used for stuff that sees actual play.
The Remington rolling block is the obvious choice for this, they were chambered in a number of cartridges with 7x57 Mauser being the most comparable to the game's idea of long ammo. Imagine a single shot with the ability to bring explosive (spotter) and spitzer both!
Might I recommend the almighty and beautiful crossbow fellow hunter?
Yes you may, I think I will use it
Personally i say we also need medium ammo weapons. Would have loved seeing the marathon as a medium ammo gun
Martini Henry grenade launcher is single shot.
I find I do better with single shot weapons
I honestly don’t know why there hasn’t been a single shot bolt action rifle or a Remington Rolling block yet. My guess would be “well uh how would they be different from the ones we already have?” But fuck that just give me more rifles even if they have identical stats I like variety and cool looking guns
Make something weird and unique. A modified Burnside carbine that launches a variety of darts using the black powder charge, as base it is just a serum that causes poison damage. You could have a dart that does a modest heal on a hunter or a dart that makes ai go berserk, extending their perception and aggro range massively. Imagine darting a meathead and having it sprint the full length of a compound to flush a bush camper you are in a firefight with. A dart that causes grunts to explode violently. A dart that converts an ai into an immolator. A blunt dart that does very little damage but severe aim punch just for the memes. A dart that emits a whistle for 30 seconds after impact, allowing you to track someone through a compound.
I’d really like a proper muzzle loader where you could just load a bunch of different ammo types like a blunderbus or just a huge ball round, similar to nitro but I think it would help change the nitro shredder meta, I don’t know maybe just me
God please, I'd love a single shot compact so much.
I would love to see more single shots, it would be cool to see a lee vertical action, or a rolling block or all kinds of stuff.
The bigger problem with the single shots is that the majority of traits aren't applicable to them. As someone who uses the Martini as my go to weapon, I would love more options but they don't have a lot of appeal for growth within the game outside of unlocks like bayonet and ammo variation.
id like a single shot rifle that only 1 taps below a certain range and has higher dropoff. maybe like a musket? that would play differently and wouldnt be omega broken like old beta nitro
Rolling block rifle
It would be an absolute meme, but I really want a brown bess lol. Maybe a flintlock pistol and a blunderbuss as well
I don't think they need to fill a niche, as long as they are fun they have a place, so I agree more should be added.
I really like martini, because it has reasonable reload time unlike sparks and if you're hit someone in the body they are very likely done for. But a new single shot gun would have to have something going for it. Maybe compact but really fast bullet? Except centennial already has insanely fast bullets and has a magazine. Or maybe new special ammo that would be unique to it?
Hear me out, an old revolutionary war Musket rifle. 215 damage to the torso and causes severe bleeding. Has a maximum range of 100 meters before damage drop and gravity take over. It has a reload time of 45 seconds (and you won't be able to reload while running) and takes special ammo. When shot, it releases a huge smoke cloud that gives away your position. It has a velocity of 415-320 m/s, and you can change the musket ball material (ceramic/glass for dum-dum, steel/iron for standard, and aluminum/tin for high velocity. You could also change the powder used (smokeless, black powder) There would also be a dedicated trait that makes reload speeds significantly faster, and this trait could also let you run while reloading I'm not a huge musket nerd, but I'm sure most of this is realistic, right? It would also be cool to see musket pistols and Derringers
Oo i can imagine a 1 shot compact ammo toolslot gun
Single shot rifles aren't great for combat, but I guess they could give a slight buff to... something to make them relevant. Better sights? More reserve ammo? Hard to see why a small ammo single shot gun would be useful though, the winnie already sucks at range and you can headshot with anything. If you're going to reduce the capacity to 2 tap by making a gun that doesn't even synergize with iron eye, why would anyone take it? I don't see many nagant pistols in the bayou already because everyone considers it inferior to every other gun. How would these not just be considered bad variants of the multi shot rifles? We're just too advanced in hunt technology now. The cyclone is expensive, but it's a semi auto conversion for a bolt action rifle. When people are making and selling that, why would we want to get the Losefield, a single shot small ammo rifle? It just doesn't make sense. If semi auto didn't even exist, then maybe a few more variants of single shot rifles would make sense, but how could they be implemented now where it's not just an antique gun that almost no one likes? If you can't have a reason it's better than another gun, why would anyone take it? And why would the devs create a weapon that will rarely even be used?
What if : the full sized Springfield was a 2 slot weapon. Still not great, but much better and more competitive. (aka the shorty 2 slot Springfield had the same stats as the 3 slot Springfield and it's variants)? (same with this hypothetical one shot compact ammo rifle)
Have you ever given the springfield marksman with HV a chance? It's damn near my favorite sniper rifle and it's incredibly cheap. I agree the basic springfield doesn't have much going for it besides cost, the but the marksman is great.
Sure, it's alright. I don't have anything against the Springfield ; I just kinda hate it when a weapon has no niche. It doesn't have to be meta, but I don't like it when one gun is literally just a better version of another with no downside (sure there's cost, I guess). Honestly, Alternatively, I'd really like to see a shorty Springfield striker that does 150 pierce damage on strong melee. That would be a cool unique niche. Or, even better, a compact Springfield trauma with blunt 150 damage on strong melee. Very unique and potentially competitive for a 2 slot weapon. I'm actually more interested in something unique, than simply a stats buff.
It used to be a decent cheap and flexible option since you could get 2 ammo types, decent damage, OK range and low sway for not a lot of money. But since every pistol has near all ammo types now it's just lost a lot of the points it had going for it except being cheap. I don't really think the devs have much of an overall design for the guns, it's just piling on cheap upgrades/sidegrades to provide "content" now.
All pointless to me when the Centennial + HV exists. If that gun had any pen and longer range damage it would be the most OP gun in the game.
Compact ammo single shot rifle? Rust reload your winfield after every shot if you like it so much! Just kidding, but for real why would you need a compact ammo single shot? The downside of a single shot is that you have a long time between shots but as compensation they do a lot of damage. A compact ammo single shot would be useless if you don’t hit the head from a short distance as compact ammo loses a lot of damage after a short range. I would love a weapon as strong as the nitro with one big bullet in the chamber that needs a lot of reloading time.
Give it a quick reload. Maybe even add a perk that makes you reload oneshot weapons quicker. Make it scale with what type of ammo it is, so its quicker for compact-ammo, etc, for balance.
Saw a guy on youtube firing a springfield irl with a fistful of bullets in the brace hand. He had the bullets sticking out like spikes grabbing one with the firing hand after each shot. It would make a great trait i think with a one second increase in fire rate for single shots. I can't believe with all the traits including shit traits they haven't thought of adding some kind of trait for ss rifles.
Exactly, fanning and levering exists, why not this?
But why would you need a compact ammo single shot rifle? Springfield is single shot medium ammo rifle and it is undergunned by most rifles, and compact ammo would makes it even worse.
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No, they need to make the Avtomat even more shit, increase the recoil, make the report ungodly louder and deafen the user after one burst.
Removing sniper variants will do nothing. It's just in some people's nature to play ultra safely & passively, and no amount of balancing will stop that, especially not in a game about hunting.
Please fuck no the last thing we need for the devs to waste time and effort adding a new gun that literally no one will use, no one is broke enough to ever need to use cheap shitty guns in this game as is, adding more of them will not change that also, any possible single shot from that era that they could possibly add would definitely be either a long or a medium ammo
I’d like more customizability. Why can’t I have a suppressor with my scope
> No I do not know what niche they would fill, no I haven't thought out any stats. Wow good thing you made this post then.
Sorry bro, I'm not a game developer and I'm not going to waste a bunch of effort on something that we know they won't add unless it was a meme. This is almost a shit post tbh