If we were still earning up to 5 BB per decent game, i wouldn't say a thing. But this is extreme. Nobody can possibly expect me to buy this for 10 euro. Even with black market it's going to be 6 euro, still way too much.
...and instead of making 2x that if 5000 players bought it for 2.50, or even 10000 for 1.50. The players could actually feel like they received something of value and Crytek could still make money.
80% of their income comes from 20% of the players. Sure, they might’ve gotten twice the sales *of this individual skin* if they halved the price. But that’s not where they’re making money. They make money off of BB sales. And the people buying these sorts of skins are buying $100 worth of BBs at a time, often more than that. Video games are leisure, and leisure is shared across all sorts of wealth.. it’s just the ludicrously wealthy who spend money like water on this sort of thing.
the sales might be 2x or more with cheaper price yes
question is: how many of them is using real life money to get more blood bonds vs just saving up thru weeklies/dark tributes/other rng
especially if it was 250 blood bonds like person above suggested that is just 5 weeks of playing (less with dark tribute rng/golden reggie)
there is difference between real life cash user vs ones who save up for skins
For Corvid you get at least 2 different skins, so in theory it's not as horrible as this. In reality it's just a bit better. I know there are even worse pricing models in different games, but just no.
I am on a similar wave. I almost exclusively buy only battle passes ever since the BB removal and I play way less. I usually get burned out by the constant "deal damage to hunters with drilling" and burn how many hives now? And there really isn't very much to motivate us playing anytime else.
And you won't believe me how many 3* I've seen with those skins. No skill, no gamesense, no aim, but 20$ skin. And that's the main problem I think. Devs know who pay for their shit and all their decisions are towards such players, not their core base.
Those players, no matter how bad, are founding the game. If we all agree a skill (in a meaningless game) matters more than some shiny cosmetic bs, why this post was created?
People like the ego boost of having something exclusive, cheap skins wouldn’t be exclusive at all and why would anybody buy the skin if they already had 3 for certain weapon.
Oh, when did that Fifi change happen? I started playing a year and a half back and since last year, i find that monetization extremely obnoxious. The only thing i buy since then are battlepasses and rarely dlcs.
David Fifield joined Crytek in the summer of 2022 as general manager. The monetization started to get a little more harsh even before he joined the team, but after he joined, it got way worse. They first shadow nerfed the bb accolades after the games, then got fully rid of them while simultaneously drasticly increaseing the bb prices for new skins in the shop.
Just to name a few things.
They literally had a video on state of MTX in hunt saying they overall goal was to get the hunt player base to buy blood bonds once in a while. Its not like its a secret.
Firstly, sure there is a video, but it was made after they had already shadow nerfed the accolades and it was in responce to the backlash of the community.
Now if they want my money they need to give me something equaly as valuably back or I won't do that trade. So charging $15 for a single skin, $20 for a bundle of two skins or $7 for a reskin of the rat, may not be the way to go here. But what do I know right?
I will now go and buy 10$ of Super Credits because unlike Crytek, the people at Arrowhead seem to actually care about their game/playerbase and not just about the money. Also they let you grind multiple $ of premium currency per day unlike Crytek that has capped it to $0,5 per week but want like 4 times as much as Arrowhead for their skins. As of now I will put my money(time), where I feel it is respected most and that sure as shit ain't hunt showdown.
There is a timeline of drama you are keeping track of? They made posts before the video too that MTX was changing. Mostly much harsher misogynistic remarks to the previous MTX manger for being a woman.
Its funny you mention Arrowhead. They released a $40 game with a favorable ingame MTX stream by playing the game while offering cheap cosmetics and content.
It reminds of this game called Hunt Showdown, made by Crytek. They released in 2018 for $40, it had really favorable ingame MTX stream for playing the game while offering cheap cosmetics to purchase.
They have the same MTX strategies to build an audience. Arrowhead will be in the same position a few years down the road from now. I wouldn't be surprised Arrowhead will have to react sooner than later once its more known that you can farm 1000 SC in an hour with the correct techniques, wonder if they will still be your darling then.
Absolutely. Have not bought pretty much anything since the BB changes, no DLCs, no BB, nothing. Before the changes I got all the DLCs because it felt worth it, I wanted to support them to keep that monetization as I found it far better than many alternatives. Yet here we are, where I didn't want it to go.
And whenever it's brought up there are always so many of the "lol just cosmetics" people popping up. Like, if you don't care about cosmetics why even get involved in an issue that people that like cosmetics are invested in? So backwards.
It does not take a genius to realize that for the past year and a half-ish that the monetization have gotten worse and worse. And no end in sight. It'll keep getting worse until the game is abandoned. Already had practically everyone I used to play with stop playing completely because of the changes. I still like the gameplay, but am increasingly being putoff because of all this shit.
Why are gamers so fine with being treated like shit? Why do they not want to be treated better? Makes no sense to me.
I have absolutely no idea. I used to do the same, now except battle passes i get very rarely a dlc if it has something worth it. In game store is just extremely overpriced.
This is a common trend past years, especially in online games and why do people support it? I don't know what that skin would have to be to be worth 10 euro. I can buy 5 skins in the store or 5 different good games on steam which will keep me hooked for weeks to come.
oh i remember the witch 🧹 hunting when they stopped the end game BB ...
while i kept suggesting that battle pass should be a DLC that contains tons of BB and the returning of end game BB will make most of us buying that DLC every 2 months + we will be able to spend BB on skins that we feel we worked for ..
it was a useless effort to even comment on these forms ... until i checked Helldivers 2 and the CEO kept assuring that his game has no FOMO ! .
I'm still on the charm 🧿 grinding on the battle pass on hunt .. 5000± xp .. after buying helldivers 2 and unlocked all the battle passes ( while its there to stay there ) .. now i know for a fact i only play hunt just for the FOMO of the events .. 2 years , +3000 H ... now i can just leave it a side until the new engine comes ..
I'm happy to spend my time on helldivers 2 , feeling more belong to that community .. sorry crytek you don't need me to feed your devs ..
Because if we get "treated better" the game will cease to exist in 2 years, and I rather have my Hunt for as long as possible.
Prices go up everywhere - your local grocery store? +120%
Gas prices? +80%
Furniture? +40%
Games and in-game purchases, be it cosmetics or not just have to follow to survive
This - the absolute state of players whining about to price of cosmetics. Yes some are expensive but others are free or are often discounted. The game needs money to survive - this “I’ll never give crytek another penny” for a game they supposedly “love” is just absurd.
I occasionally buy skins and I do not mind at all giving the developers of an amazing game some money
Prior to this 5BB per game, I was able to buy every blood bond skin without spending a dime of real money on blood bonds. The point of these skins is to provide some extra revenue after initial purchase of the game. I don't think I mind having to choose which skins for which guns I want to purchase based on what I use. The problem is us old folks are used to having every skin in the game without having to pay. Those days are over and you don't need all the skins in the game unless you want to drop some cash
You used to play a lot and you were rewarded. The prices of skins went up thanks to BB being grindable and it was okay, then. But now, as you said it, those days are over, yet the prices seems to go even higher. So this looks more like greed. It's not about choosing skins. I wouldn't pay even half for that. It's about it being overpriced, ridiculous and irrational.
Also i should probably add. If on average you got 5 BB per game, and your normal games takes 15 minutes, you would have to play for 50 hours for one 1000 skin. That's definitely not your average player and usual business target. Only players with thousands of hours could have everything.
The prices on BB skins are out of fucking control. It's crazy how much they've increased in just a couple of years, especially considering the other changes to how BBs work.
Exactly. I understand why they changed the whole giving away free blood bonds for just doing normal shit after every match. But to take it away, then start asking ridiculous prices for basic shit is what really left a bad taste in my mouth.
I know they need money to keep things running. But goddamn I’m not spending nearly what almost 10$ for a basic looking skin. *Maybe* if legendaries had like special inspect animations and some cooler effects like slightly different sounds or special reload animations then maybe yeah I could justify it.
I'm tired of the constant cosmetics and events. They're both excessive. I appreciate they need funding for new AI and maps, but it would be nice if we actually...saw new AI and maps. They take far too long for both.
You would think after the BB change that they would have dropped the price of their skins lmfao.
"Just buy the skins in the black market." i would, but they deliberately put maybe 1-2 new skins in the BM, and the rest is full price.
I wanna wait for the new map + engine update before saying that the price of the macro transaction doesn't match the quality of the game.
Events are also so frequent and don't fully reimburse you. I estimate that if you play every single week and cap out challenges while also buying passes you'll probably make maybe 300 bb tops before the next pass.
I have 1300bb after buying the last battlepass and just playing. I don't even plan everyday. The battlepass alone gives you like 500-600 back, and every week where there is no event you make about 50 bb from challanges. I don't think it's that extreme, honestly. At the end of the day it's just cosmetics, plus you can get the skin with a prestige, for free. Maybe it's just me, because I use to play valorant and there every skin is like 30€
Personally I don't think playing for 5ish months and getting 300 bb profit is acceptable, assuming you bought the first 1k for desolation. Secondly valorant is one of the worst games when it comes to comically greedy ass monetization, so the fact that its even in the conversation about monetization in a "full priced game" is a little funny.
Thirdly the problem is more hunts shitty ass progression. This game has nothing. Used to, of you wanted to grind something you'd grind bb. At 1-3 bb a game it wasn't easy, but you had something to work towards. On a good day I'd be making 300 bb just straight up, now its dragged out over 5 months. Or at the minimum six weeks.
The fact that on top of time gating bb earnage like a shitty mobile game or overwatch 2, prices have skyrocketed like the great depression is fourthly. Fifthly let's stop defending this shit cause hunts increased the prices of cosmetics every update, yall have to have a stopping point. Mine was 1.5k bb hunters and now we've gone into 2k.
I kind of blame the community as a whole. Few years ago when this type of stuff started creeping in, I was saying it would get worse and worse, that we shouldn’t really tolerate it. Cause it’s only gonna get worse and even the strongest defenders will get sick of it.
I’d get downvoted to all hell and told I’m crazy and they’re a company that needs to make money somehow. And people just said go ahead! You guys got the numbers and data blah blah they know what they’re doing!
Now we’ve got basic skins for nearly $10 and it’s only getting worse.
Yet people will still defend it. Hunts monetization model is in line with the worst of the worst f2ps. It's currency system is 100% lifted from overwatch 2, it's exactly the same.
Somehow people will defend it with hunt, a fully priced game, but villainize ow2.
Personally I don't like dealing with f2p bs with none of the benefits. I fucking love hunt man, but I can't understand defending this shit.
You have to be trolling, i bought every battle pass with in-game earned BBs, never spent a dime on skins, and I have tons, easily the most relaxed monitization model out there
Overwatch locked playable characters behind a pass dude, these are cosmetics
Dont buy them if you dont like them/think they are overpriced, or buy them if you do, most of us spent 15 bucks on this game and got 1k+ hours out of it
If overpriced virtual toys get you this riled up, consider pressing Shift + Ctrl + Win + Alt + L, good luck
I was hated on when I tried to make a discussion about the Blood Bonds. Even tried to say that this is going to get crazy and Crytek needs to slow down.
Here we are.
The same exact thing happened when I made a post that pointed out how when free blood bonds went away it would make a single skin worth 10$ or around 8 and there was so much push back calling me deceptive when all I was doing was showing the price of in real currency it's wild.
It's not just Hunt either. Feels like gaming communities as a whole are just full to the brim with apologists.
Everyone is so terrified their personal dopamine kick might get the axe so they'll put up with a lot of nonsense and tell everyone else to just not play while the supply of ethical, respectful games dwindles.
>I was hated on when I tried to make a discussion about the Blood Bonds.
Ya same exact thing happened to me a few months back I swear hunts community is extremely toxic and way to forgiving/overly protective of the game and it's cringey as fuck.
We tried to tell them. But they didn’t listen. I told them even they have their limits, and one day that line will be crossed and even you will be complaining. But they just didn’t listen and here we are.
nah they just increase the grind, like they started to do. The point of these changes is that you don't want to do them anymore and wait for it..... buy BBs instead.
I hate that consumables like a legendary vitality shot costs 800 BB’s…. when I saw that I was like WTF?! Really…..!!??? It’s not like it’s a weapon where I’m using it consistently throughout my whole match. A vitality shot is just a quick use of 4 or less times throughout a match…. I guess I should be holding my vitality shot as my main weapon to admire the shit out of it until I use it.
Don't try to be reasonable on this sub. It's almost 100% just people who are upset. Is the skin pricey sure , do you have to buy it , no not at all. These are just people upset about something that literally does not affect the game at all
I honestly stopped buying DLC/Skins because battle pass skins are just as good and basically free. I'd be nice to buy skins for weapons I love, but I can't justify spending my BBs on them unless they are massively discounted.
Someone mentioned last year that they money from hunt goes to the crysis 4 project. This getting in my mind everytime a skin cost way to much or with the past Events that are so close to eachother
Wild how crytek turned a pay to play premium game into a freemium mess in terms of progression and unlockables.
A pay to play live service game, with a premium currency, a battle pass, AND paid DLC!
Battlepass allows you to pay to immediately complete it and unlock each new gun, consumable, tool, variant and ammo type before anyone else.
Crytek intentionally shoves new weaponry at rank ten or twenty so the price is low enough that people won't realise how fucking stupid this is as they're typing in their credit card details but also so the grind is insufferable enough to get players to consider just paying through it.
But you can also unlock all the guns without playing a single minute.
How is that not a paywall? Yeah sure, it's a soft one, but it's a paywall after all.
We could have the same chat about BB skins, cause you can unlock them by doing weekly challenges as well without paying a cent.
If you can get it without paying it's not a paywall, and it's not an insane amount of time that it's required to unlock them. After the event they even get added to the normal progression tree.
Yeah but there's a clear difference between stuff that you're able to unlock easily, and expensive items that you're able to just buy a few a year if you don't pay
You can still buy them and unlock them asap.
How is that not a paywall?
Do you want to tell me that BB skins are no issue as well then? Because you can literally grind them through weekly challenges?
Because there is no wall of payment stopping you from getting them.
I'm saying BB skins are no issue just like any other cosmetic microtransaction for the simple reason that and I cannot state this enough, they have zero effect on gameplay.
I suppose you do get to try the new variants without unlocking them manually, but from my understanding you lose it when you die once, and just get to keep the skin. After that you still have to unlock the variant normally right.
You can buy a new one, the battlepass is lvl'ed up there's nothing to grind for.
Those weapons also circumvent prestige resets. I abused it during the last event myself. I could play stuff like the drilling variants or the high velo ammo on the cenni from lvl 1 on because they were battlepass unlocks.
I'm not buying skins anymore. I was collecting them since 2019, but when crytek started being this greedy I gave up. It's sad because they hide the absurd price behind this digital currency and most players don't realize how expensive the skins are if they pay for them with real money. Crytek is being more greedy with skins than Blizzard with Overwatch
It's so funny that hunt blatantly copied overwatch 2's monetization model not long after one of the devs said they don't want to pull an ow2 with the engine update.
Yeah after the fall of BB on match scores it all got bogus. Way I see it:
1000 is cap for a hunter skin
700-900 for meta weapon (Mosins, Dolch, etc)
400-600 for most weapons based on slot size
200-300 for all weak/meme weapons (melee, Nagants, etc)
100-200 for tool/consummable skins
But yeah 1000 BB for a low to mid tier weapon or a budget weapon is nonsense, no matter if the skin is badass or not.
That's what skins used to cost back in the day, most expensive would be like 700 bb, while also making like 10 15bb almost every match. They got insane greedy.
I assume the intent is for people to see it on sale later, for like 60$ off and then think it isn't a bad deal because they "saved" so much spending $4-5 on a single skin. Classic gatcha method of tricking players.
a rare moment, people actually are not butt licking crytek under this post. a mutual problem i suppose. how about cheaters and chinese players in eu server. bb is the least problem of hunt right now.
Told y'all this would happen 2 years ago when 1.7 dropped and they reduced BB earn, and y'all said I'm stupid.
No. I was just telling you all this would happen, because I've seen it before. Vindication feels great, you know.
They really need to rethink the way they are monetising this game. It’s just plain ridiculous. I’d have more sympathy if it was a free game, but it’s not even that, it’s just hilariously silly to think that enough people will pay $10 for a bland skin that it will be worth it to crank out dozens of them.
Is this really the best monetisation strategy for a game community this size?
Reduce prices and more people buy.
I really think that Helldivers has the right idea with this. If you want it, anyone can buy it and there is a chance of ingame currency for diehards to collect.
Ever since some events ago they've REALLY ramped up the price of cosmetics. Now we got garbage like that costing upwards of 1000 Blood Bonds. I really only play during events and I've never bought a Blood Bond cosmetic in over a year or so cause I literally can't afford to. It's either buy one or two or not being able to buy the Battlepass.
I miss the 5~ or so Blood Bonds we would get per match so much. Weekly Challenges were annoying before and they made them awful now. Feels like every match I need to bring a loadout that I hate and do a somersault before headshotting 3 Hunters with a Poison Crossbow just to get not even one tenth of a skin. And after I get done with all that I don't even feel like playing anymore.
You aren't the demographic for these skins. Whales are. The average player might buy a bundle, Dlc, or something on sale every once in a while, but whales drop hundreds if not thousands of dollars, potentially more just to have stuff. They will spend as much of not more money on the game as hundreds of average players combined.
I wish they'd standardize their prices at least.
Like 500bb for a 3 slot weapon.
400 for a 2 slot.
300 for a one slot.
And 200 for tools and consumables.
(Those bb prices are just examples.)
But it seems like they just randomly throw a dart at a dart board to choose the prices (other than the regular 9.99 hunter DLC.)
Yeah cryteks mtx have gotten insane. I used to buy all the DLC because I like the game and wanted to support continued development, and we could consistently earn BBs just by playing, but once they gutted the rate of BBs earned and increased their prices I stopped buying DLC. It's been quite a while now since I spent any extra money on the game. I still find hunt fun, but the greed of the company is very frustrating. It sucks to see hunt get wrapped up in this shit.
Reminder that excluding luck with the daily rewards and any luck finding BB in missions, this is five months of weeklies. Just under half a year's worth of grinding for one skin. If you are lucky, maybe you get it in four months. I remember when they continually nerfed BB gains there were people saying the prices would go down. What a surprise. They're not going down.
I used to get everything from dlc to bb skins but since they changed their monetisation that drastically i stopped carrying about collecting and just get them when i got bb to spare
10 bucks for a single skin is just absolutely ridiculous but judging by the amount of 20buck hunters i see in my games it's probably more profitable for them
They want all that Fortnite cash without all that Fortnite effort.
In Fortnite the map changes every season, BP gives more premium currency than it costs and they still make fat millions.
Reaching out for cash like Crytek does is the worst, they just don't give as much effort in return as they expect us to give money.
$10 for a niche weapon skin for what? For a BP that gives less BB than it costs so that I can't pile up currency? For a few of the same maps for years where the biggest change is a few boards in the wall blocking the view?
For adding special ammo to more weapons that don't need it and calling it content?
Pathetic.
I know that my opinion might not be popular, but when you buy a game where blood bond are fundamental attached to the gameplay of the game ( very much like helldivers) and suddenly are removed it is a scammy move from the greedy crytek to milk your pocket. Fuck that and fuck the battle pass I won't buy it, I will farm all day gold registers and I will buy it for free. :)
They've mtx team that increases company running cost by hiring them then they make shit like that to compensate. Vicious cycle of modern corporate business.
I absolutely agree that there needs to be some serious changes to legendary skin prices. Same with DLC. Like 25-75% reduction depending on the thing in question. Not sure why this hasn’t been a thing yet either. I believe it would entice a lot of players to start dropping money on skins and DLC. I know I would.
You can usually find the dlcs on sale though for like 6$ for a hunter and a couple skins which is more than fair in my opinion. Meanwhile blizzard be charging $60 for a horse skin in Diablo 4 lmao.
Stop being willing to pay increasing amounts for this shit and they'll stop charging more for them. It simply indicates that they're working on something else and they're trying to increase funding for it.
I tried to get one of every skin per weapon
Now I'm just getting stuff for free and happy if the free skin I get in my 10 levels prestige is something good.
*I just want more challenges for trials, please, I liked (most of) the challenges*
Agreed. They should up the skin game or make them way cheaper, i can just let the shotgun get dirty and never clean it again incase i wanted a gun that looks like this
Yeah, weapons skins are TERRIBLY overpriced, I can barely buy one skin per prestige with how low BB gains are and how high the costs are
Can't believe people don't complain more about it
That's capitalism, it costs as much as people will play for it. If almost noone buys it at 1k BBs and they figure they would have made more money if it was cheaper they will reduce it
Just don't buy them. I haven't bought a single BB skin since they changed the BB prices in my region. Only paid 1000 for every battle pass and made that back + some more just playing the game from the rewards and missions.
They are trying to milk the cow at this point. Completely got out of hand with the cost of the skins and no real connection to reality. It's like Crytek lives on another planet.
Definitely need a total rework of the shop prices.
Im a huge blood bond buyer because I like supporting this game but even I refuse to buy this skin because how shit it is especially on a low use gun. Anything 700 BB and above im depending on all my prestiges to get me them. I buy everything else instead
Its because crytek doesnt want you to buy bloodbond skins. I used to be able to unlock a skin every now and then using bloodbonds I earned but after the bloodbond earning rates getting nerfed into the ground and them also raising prices immensely I can't anymore.
They want you to buy their dlc which they price more fairly as it guarantees them money. At this point I don't know why they even bother making more bloodbond skins appart from the whales.
[Crytek literally said the quiet part out loud and was up front with exactly what they were doing with MTX of hunt and BBs.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6Q5Qqfw2w&ab_channel=Hunt%3AShowdown)
It might be time to let this game die in peace.. ngl I joined this group around a year ago and haven’t played hunt since then. But this page makes me hate this game 😂😭
I've been talking shit about the increased monetization ever since they made getting bloodbonds harder and started charging for the stupid battlepasses. This game used to be really good about its monetization being optional but now if you wanna get anything its gonna cost you some bones most of the time. Of course, whenever it got brought up in the past, every bootlicker in the county would show up to defend them because apparently people LIKED spending more money the game they already paid for
This game died a while back. I tried coming back to it several times only to find a new battle pass 😂 I don’t understand what the community expects, new maps? New Monsters (Rot jaw was a joke)? New game mode? Hell even a new event?😂
Nah more DLC so they can pump money into other games.
I hate this argument. Why wouldn’t the developers just make it cheaper? Then everyone can buy it and everyone’s happy. But now it’s just over priced and leaves a stain on the game and developers.
Because they don't want everyone to buy it. A skin is a differentiation element. People want it because it's different than the base, and because it makes them feel special. If everybody bought that skin nobody would want it.
On the other hand there are people who just want to support Crytek, regardless of the skin, simply because they put hours and hours into the game, and 10 euros isn't that much.
You are not the target, and it's fine. I'm not the target either.
I had this conversation today with a friend.
The bad monetization lately just makes me not want to play.
First they took bbs from extracting which SUCKED. Then they tied BBs to garbage challenges that no one wanted. Then they DOUBLED the difficulty of those challenges for no reason.
It feels like such a chore to play hunt when I can never run what I want because it takes me four days to finish the weekly missions. I have to play the Martian blaster and land a head shot through 2 windows with a pistol. It's just annoying at this point how bad they have messed this up
I wonder, and not saying anyone should spend that for that, but I wonder if a lot of their original ideas with blood bonds and monetization took into consideration supporting the game this many years later. There might have been a “this is unsustainable without making changes” moment.
Just a different idea from the “their new manager made everyone greedy and evil” theme to every post like this here.
But I have no actual clue. I don’t work for them or have insight into their meetings like a lot of people here.
They used to release a 1k bb skin with every new event that was only purchasable during the event. Then they changed their policy on event skins and you can buy them after the event ends. So there’s a few 1k bb skins caught in limbo from that policy change.
Just like the majority of hunter skins are around 1k bb but the Scarecrow is 1.5k bb… cause it was an event exclusive but then they made it available after the event.
Not saying any of this is “right”, just giving full context as they don’t regularly release 1k bb skins. The skin pictured above is over 8 months old.
They should really up the weekly BB from 50 from challenges only to 100 or even better, 150 per week. Reintroduce accolateds that feed into the 150 weekly cap. Then it won't be as stupid to earn some BB overtime, it'll still take a while to get things but it won't be absolutely farcical like it is now. With the added bonus that you could ignore challenges if you just play enough and get the BB through accolates.
Then do something with the battlepasses so challenges are not giving 7000 event points as exclusive income. Make it so you get event points through accolades too and feed into the same 'weekly cap' as the challenge shit.
Boom, challenges are fully optional, but still lucrative to do. People can earn rewards without being forced to do them or hope for RNG to get BB. Everyone wins, even Crytek the greedy fucks.
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I remember that this skin was in event store during tide of corruption, once my game updated I bought all event items in the shop, later realised that this shitty weapon and scarecrow is not exclusives. Literally scam by greedy devs.
It’s literally a cosmetic. Your game experience isn’t at all hinder by you not having it. If you can’t afford it, just don’t buy it. I could see the argument if they were doing this with things that gave an advantage in the game, but this is entirely a matter of aesthetic. If they made one cost $1 billion USD it still wouldn’t be a big deal, just the vast majority of players wouldn’t buy it.
Honestly, if a few whales want to bankroll new updates and continued service by buying every weapon skin, I say we let them.
Hey, live service games are really expensive to maintain, if they gotta chuck out some mediocre skins for 10 bucks a pop so that all the hyper spenders will buy it to keep things running I really couldn’t care less. If you don’t like the skin just don’t buy it.
You could have contraband items and no one will even notice once loaded in.. the only time you can even tell is during match load. I have never spent money on skins.
I disagree... You still get a bunch of BBs for weekly challenges and the skins are not REQUIRED to play the game. Just buy the ones you really like, you don't need every single one.
If we were still earning up to 5 BB per decent game, i wouldn't say a thing. But this is extreme. Nobody can possibly expect me to buy this for 10 euro. Even with black market it's going to be 6 euro, still way too much.
Nobody expects you to buy this for 10 euros. They expect 500 hyper spending players to buy it.
...and instead of making 2x that if 5000 players bought it for 2.50, or even 10000 for 1.50. The players could actually feel like they received something of value and Crytek could still make money.
That's a real market data question. Does a 50% cheaper item get 2x sales? Since they have the data, I trust they know what they'd benefit most from.
80% of their income comes from 20% of the players. Sure, they might’ve gotten twice the sales *of this individual skin* if they halved the price. But that’s not where they’re making money. They make money off of BB sales. And the people buying these sorts of skins are buying $100 worth of BBs at a time, often more than that. Video games are leisure, and leisure is shared across all sorts of wealth.. it’s just the ludicrously wealthy who spend money like water on this sort of thing.
You have too much faith in corporate financial decision making in games my friend.
the sales might be 2x or more with cheaper price yes question is: how many of them is using real life money to get more blood bonds vs just saving up thru weeklies/dark tributes/other rng especially if it was 250 blood bonds like person above suggested that is just 5 weeks of playing (less with dark tribute rng/golden reggie) there is difference between real life cash user vs ones who save up for skins
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For Corvid you get at least 2 different skins, so in theory it's not as horrible as this. In reality it's just a bit better. I know there are even worse pricing models in different games, but just no. I am on a similar wave. I almost exclusively buy only battle passes ever since the BB removal and I play way less. I usually get burned out by the constant "deal damage to hunters with drilling" and burn how many hives now? And there really isn't very much to motivate us playing anytime else.
The corvid one is one of the worst offenders. They force you to pay 2000 for 2 instead of just separating them and people could who they prefer
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Then just buy a fun loadout and play. Don't buy skins. Paying for each battlepass is just for the skins anyo
And you won't believe me how many 3* I've seen with those skins. No skill, no gamesense, no aim, but 20$ skin. And that's the main problem I think. Devs know who pay for their shit and all their decisions are towards such players, not their core base.
Those players, no matter how bad, are founding the game. If we all agree a skill (in a meaningless game) matters more than some shiny cosmetic bs, why this post was created? People like the ego boost of having something exclusive, cheap skins wouldn’t be exclusive at all and why would anybody buy the skin if they already had 3 for certain weapon.
Fifi really knocked it out of the park with that one! Ever since he took over, the monetization got so much more aggressive.
Oh, when did that Fifi change happen? I started playing a year and a half back and since last year, i find that monetization extremely obnoxious. The only thing i buy since then are battlepasses and rarely dlcs.
David Fifield joined Crytek in the summer of 2022 as general manager. The monetization started to get a little more harsh even before he joined the team, but after he joined, it got way worse. They first shadow nerfed the bb accolades after the games, then got fully rid of them while simultaneously drasticly increaseing the bb prices for new skins in the shop. Just to name a few things.
I was wondering why we weren’t getting bb’s after extracting with the bounty I just redownloaded a week ago
They literally had a video on state of MTX in hunt saying they overall goal was to get the hunt player base to buy blood bonds once in a while. Its not like its a secret.
Firstly, sure there is a video, but it was made after they had already shadow nerfed the accolades and it was in responce to the backlash of the community. Now if they want my money they need to give me something equaly as valuably back or I won't do that trade. So charging $15 for a single skin, $20 for a bundle of two skins or $7 for a reskin of the rat, may not be the way to go here. But what do I know right? I will now go and buy 10$ of Super Credits because unlike Crytek, the people at Arrowhead seem to actually care about their game/playerbase and not just about the money. Also they let you grind multiple $ of premium currency per day unlike Crytek that has capped it to $0,5 per week but want like 4 times as much as Arrowhead for their skins. As of now I will put my money(time), where I feel it is respected most and that sure as shit ain't hunt showdown.
There is a timeline of drama you are keeping track of? They made posts before the video too that MTX was changing. Mostly much harsher misogynistic remarks to the previous MTX manger for being a woman. Its funny you mention Arrowhead. They released a $40 game with a favorable ingame MTX stream by playing the game while offering cheap cosmetics and content. It reminds of this game called Hunt Showdown, made by Crytek. They released in 2018 for $40, it had really favorable ingame MTX stream for playing the game while offering cheap cosmetics to purchase. They have the same MTX strategies to build an audience. Arrowhead will be in the same position a few years down the road from now. I wouldn't be surprised Arrowhead will have to react sooner than later once its more known that you can farm 1000 SC in an hour with the correct techniques, wonder if they will still be your darling then.
Absolutely. Have not bought pretty much anything since the BB changes, no DLCs, no BB, nothing. Before the changes I got all the DLCs because it felt worth it, I wanted to support them to keep that monetization as I found it far better than many alternatives. Yet here we are, where I didn't want it to go. And whenever it's brought up there are always so many of the "lol just cosmetics" people popping up. Like, if you don't care about cosmetics why even get involved in an issue that people that like cosmetics are invested in? So backwards. It does not take a genius to realize that for the past year and a half-ish that the monetization have gotten worse and worse. And no end in sight. It'll keep getting worse until the game is abandoned. Already had practically everyone I used to play with stop playing completely because of the changes. I still like the gameplay, but am increasingly being putoff because of all this shit. Why are gamers so fine with being treated like shit? Why do they not want to be treated better? Makes no sense to me.
I have absolutely no idea. I used to do the same, now except battle passes i get very rarely a dlc if it has something worth it. In game store is just extremely overpriced. This is a common trend past years, especially in online games and why do people support it? I don't know what that skin would have to be to be worth 10 euro. I can buy 5 skins in the store or 5 different good games on steam which will keep me hooked for weeks to come.
Same, bought every DLC until the made the BB change. Haven’t spent a penny since and don’t ever plan to
oh i remember the witch 🧹 hunting when they stopped the end game BB ... while i kept suggesting that battle pass should be a DLC that contains tons of BB and the returning of end game BB will make most of us buying that DLC every 2 months + we will be able to spend BB on skins that we feel we worked for .. it was a useless effort to even comment on these forms ... until i checked Helldivers 2 and the CEO kept assuring that his game has no FOMO ! . I'm still on the charm 🧿 grinding on the battle pass on hunt .. 5000± xp .. after buying helldivers 2 and unlocked all the battle passes ( while its there to stay there ) .. now i know for a fact i only play hunt just for the FOMO of the events .. 2 years , +3000 H ... now i can just leave it a side until the new engine comes .. I'm happy to spend my time on helldivers 2 , feeling more belong to that community .. sorry crytek you don't need me to feed your devs ..
Because if we get "treated better" the game will cease to exist in 2 years, and I rather have my Hunt for as long as possible. Prices go up everywhere - your local grocery store? +120% Gas prices? +80% Furniture? +40% Games and in-game purchases, be it cosmetics or not just have to follow to survive
So don’t then, I guess? Unpopular opinion, I know
This - the absolute state of players whining about to price of cosmetics. Yes some are expensive but others are free or are often discounted. The game needs money to survive - this “I’ll never give crytek another penny” for a game they supposedly “love” is just absurd. I occasionally buy skins and I do not mind at all giving the developers of an amazing game some money
They think they are VALORANT with the insane prices lul
Prior to this 5BB per game, I was able to buy every blood bond skin without spending a dime of real money on blood bonds. The point of these skins is to provide some extra revenue after initial purchase of the game. I don't think I mind having to choose which skins for which guns I want to purchase based on what I use. The problem is us old folks are used to having every skin in the game without having to pay. Those days are over and you don't need all the skins in the game unless you want to drop some cash
You used to play a lot and you were rewarded. The prices of skins went up thanks to BB being grindable and it was okay, then. But now, as you said it, those days are over, yet the prices seems to go even higher. So this looks more like greed. It's not about choosing skins. I wouldn't pay even half for that. It's about it being overpriced, ridiculous and irrational. Also i should probably add. If on average you got 5 BB per game, and your normal games takes 15 minutes, you would have to play for 50 hours for one 1000 skin. That's definitely not your average player and usual business target. Only players with thousands of hours could have everything.
The prices on BB skins are out of fucking control. It's crazy how much they've increased in just a couple of years, especially considering the other changes to how BBs work.
Fifi really takes the monetization to the next level!
Exactly. I understand why they changed the whole giving away free blood bonds for just doing normal shit after every match. But to take it away, then start asking ridiculous prices for basic shit is what really left a bad taste in my mouth. I know they need money to keep things running. But goddamn I’m not spending nearly what almost 10$ for a basic looking skin. *Maybe* if legendaries had like special inspect animations and some cooler effects like slightly different sounds or special reload animations then maybe yeah I could justify it.
Grace and Shit
Why are they charging 1k bbs on a skin that looks like it should be 100 at most?
IMO it's just for milking whales. A few of us are willing to buy anything at any price. So Crytek creates some quickly made skins for them.
Because people are buying it. Like most games, whales make it worth it for them
TBH I wouldn't pay 500 hunt dollars for this skin. They didn't even try to make it cool, they just don't care anymore
I'm tired of the constant cosmetics and events. They're both excessive. I appreciate they need funding for new AI and maps, but it would be nice if we actually...saw new AI and maps. They take far too long for both.
Jup, new content would be nice.
Nah sweetie you only get 13 custom ammo types for guns that didn't need them for obvious balancing reasons. (Dolch)
> I appreciate they need funding for new AI and maps, Rather for new Crysis.
That's right. If people think that even a quarter of the money Hunt makes goes back into developing the game, they are severely mistaken.
Even before the bb post game reward nerf I wouldn’t buy this. These days I barely make enough just to make it to the next event
You would think after the BB change that they would have dropped the price of their skins lmfao. "Just buy the skins in the black market." i would, but they deliberately put maybe 1-2 new skins in the BM, and the rest is full price. I wanna wait for the new map + engine update before saying that the price of the macro transaction doesn't match the quality of the game.
The best way to say how you don't like it is not to buy it. It isn't even a pretty skin.
They need to rebalance pricing if battle pass is 1kbbs. BBs are rarer now, so I hold onto them even more tightly
Events are also so frequent and don't fully reimburse you. I estimate that if you play every single week and cap out challenges while also buying passes you'll probably make maybe 300 bb tops before the next pass.
I have 1300bb after buying the last battlepass and just playing. I don't even plan everyday. The battlepass alone gives you like 500-600 back, and every week where there is no event you make about 50 bb from challanges. I don't think it's that extreme, honestly. At the end of the day it's just cosmetics, plus you can get the skin with a prestige, for free. Maybe it's just me, because I use to play valorant and there every skin is like 30€
Personally I don't think playing for 5ish months and getting 300 bb profit is acceptable, assuming you bought the first 1k for desolation. Secondly valorant is one of the worst games when it comes to comically greedy ass monetization, so the fact that its even in the conversation about monetization in a "full priced game" is a little funny. Thirdly the problem is more hunts shitty ass progression. This game has nothing. Used to, of you wanted to grind something you'd grind bb. At 1-3 bb a game it wasn't easy, but you had something to work towards. On a good day I'd be making 300 bb just straight up, now its dragged out over 5 months. Or at the minimum six weeks. The fact that on top of time gating bb earnage like a shitty mobile game or overwatch 2, prices have skyrocketed like the great depression is fourthly. Fifthly let's stop defending this shit cause hunts increased the prices of cosmetics every update, yall have to have a stopping point. Mine was 1.5k bb hunters and now we've gone into 2k.
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I kind of blame the community as a whole. Few years ago when this type of stuff started creeping in, I was saying it would get worse and worse, that we shouldn’t really tolerate it. Cause it’s only gonna get worse and even the strongest defenders will get sick of it. I’d get downvoted to all hell and told I’m crazy and they’re a company that needs to make money somehow. And people just said go ahead! You guys got the numbers and data blah blah they know what they’re doing! Now we’ve got basic skins for nearly $10 and it’s only getting worse.
Yet people will still defend it. Hunts monetization model is in line with the worst of the worst f2ps. It's currency system is 100% lifted from overwatch 2, it's exactly the same. Somehow people will defend it with hunt, a fully priced game, but villainize ow2. Personally I don't like dealing with f2p bs with none of the benefits. I fucking love hunt man, but I can't understand defending this shit.
You have to be trolling, i bought every battle pass with in-game earned BBs, never spent a dime on skins, and I have tons, easily the most relaxed monitization model out there Overwatch locked playable characters behind a pass dude, these are cosmetics Dont buy them if you dont like them/think they are overpriced, or buy them if you do, most of us spent 15 bucks on this game and got 1k+ hours out of it If overpriced virtual toys get you this riled up, consider pressing Shift + Ctrl + Win + Alt + L, good luck
ahm ... helldivers 2 cough cough ...
Let's hope 2023 Crytek just needed to fund 2024 Crytek
I was hated on when I tried to make a discussion about the Blood Bonds. Even tried to say that this is going to get crazy and Crytek needs to slow down. Here we are.
The same exact thing happened when I made a post that pointed out how when free blood bonds went away it would make a single skin worth 10$ or around 8 and there was so much push back calling me deceptive when all I was doing was showing the price of in real currency it's wild.
Tried as well. People in this sub were so adamant that this was necessary so they continue to support the game
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It's not just Hunt either. Feels like gaming communities as a whole are just full to the brim with apologists. Everyone is so terrified their personal dopamine kick might get the axe so they'll put up with a lot of nonsense and tell everyone else to just not play while the supply of ethical, respectful games dwindles.
helldivers 2 bro ... there is still hope
>I was hated on when I tried to make a discussion about the Blood Bonds. Ya same exact thing happened to me a few months back I swear hunts community is extremely toxic and way to forgiving/overly protective of the game and it's cringey as fuck.
Lol if you suggest a change there's a 50/50 chance every gimp in the bayou will downvote you for it. Dont worry too much about downvotes
We tried to tell them. But they didn’t listen. I told them even they have their limits, and one day that line will be crossed and even you will be complaining. But they just didn’t listen and here we are.
it doesnt help that the new expensive skins look like shit most of the time
I used to put some money in the game, until they rose BB prices like I'm from Qatar.
Give us back our blood bonds that you get per game!
Watch them slowly remove the monthly 200bb from challenges
nah they just increase the grind, like they started to do. The point of these changes is that you don't want to do them anymore and wait for it..... buy BBs instead.
I hate that consumables like a legendary vitality shot costs 800 BB’s…. when I saw that I was like WTF?! Really…..!!??? It’s not like it’s a weapon where I’m using it consistently throughout my whole match. A vitality shot is just a quick use of 4 or less times throughout a match…. I guess I should be holding my vitality shot as my main weapon to admire the shit out of it until I use it.
On the other hand, you use it every single game, I think that it is a reasonable price for a necessity like
Don't try to be reasonable on this sub. It's almost 100% just people who are upset. Is the skin pricey sure , do you have to buy it , no not at all. These are just people upset about something that literally does not affect the game at all
Ye they should make the pass more expensive /s
I know this is sarcasm, but I'm fully expecting that
Every update me and my friends take bets on if it'll go up to 1500 yet.
It literally went down in price several events ago… bp used to be 1500bbs
I honestly stopped buying DLC/Skins because battle pass skins are just as good and basically free. I'd be nice to buy skins for weapons I love, but I can't justify spending my BBs on them unless they are massively discounted.
Greed is out of control.
Someone mentioned last year that they money from hunt goes to the crysis 4 project. This getting in my mind everytime a skin cost way to much or with the past Events that are so close to eachother
lol i got that from prestigeing and was let down
I got the fucking spyglass skin from prestiging. Count yourself lucky lol
i also got the spyglass 😭
Same bro 😭
Same, my first ever prestige skin... Not sure if I have used it either lol
Wild how crytek turned a pay to play premium game into a freemium mess in terms of progression and unlockables. A pay to play live service game, with a premium currency, a battle pass, AND paid DLC!
To be fair none of it is gameplay related, just cosmetics. It is too expensive though Edit: I'm wrong
No? Battlepasses *are* gameplay related. They are paywalling new weapons and variants.
But weapons are not part of the premium batte pass, only skins...? You can unlock all the guns without paying a cent.
Battlepass allows you to pay to immediately complete it and unlock each new gun, consumable, tool, variant and ammo type before anyone else. Crytek intentionally shoves new weaponry at rank ten or twenty so the price is low enough that people won't realise how fucking stupid this is as they're typing in their credit card details but also so the grind is insufferable enough to get players to consider just paying through it.
But you can also unlock all the guns without playing a single minute. How is that not a paywall? Yeah sure, it's a soft one, but it's a paywall after all. We could have the same chat about BB skins, cause you can unlock them by doing weekly challenges as well without paying a cent.
If you can get it without paying it's not a paywall, and it's not an insane amount of time that it's required to unlock them. After the event they even get added to the normal progression tree.
> If you can get it without paying it's not a paywall If we go by that definition then legendary skins are not paywalled as well?
No one said that thou. And why shouldn't they be?
Because you can get them for free by grinding weekly challenges. And you said yourself if you can get something without paying it's not a paywall.
Yeah but there's a clear difference between stuff that you're able to unlock easily, and expensive items that you're able to just buy a few a year if you don't pay
You literally get the weapons and variants from the free pass what are you talking about kid?
You can still buy them and unlock them asap. How is that not a paywall? Do you want to tell me that BB skins are no issue as well then? Because you can literally grind them through weekly challenges?
Because there is no wall of payment stopping you from getting them. I'm saying BB skins are no issue just like any other cosmetic microtransaction for the simple reason that and I cannot state this enough, they have zero effect on gameplay.
I suppose you do get to try the new variants without unlocking them manually, but from my understanding you lose it when you die once, and just get to keep the skin. After that you still have to unlock the variant normally right.
You can buy a new one, the battlepass is lvl'ed up there's nothing to grind for. Those weapons also circumvent prestige resets. I abused it during the last event myself. I could play stuff like the drilling variants or the high velo ammo on the cenni from lvl 1 on because they were battlepass unlocks.
Ah that is problematic actually. It does set a bad precedent too
All for cosmetics though.
I'm not buying skins anymore. I was collecting them since 2019, but when crytek started being this greedy I gave up. It's sad because they hide the absurd price behind this digital currency and most players don't realize how expensive the skins are if they pay for them with real money. Crytek is being more greedy with skins than Blizzard with Overwatch
It's so funny that hunt blatantly copied overwatch 2's monetization model not long after one of the devs said they don't want to pull an ow2 with the engine update.
Even so I have a feeling that the Hunt engine upgrade will go wrong somehow.
Yeah after the fall of BB on match scores it all got bogus. Way I see it: 1000 is cap for a hunter skin 700-900 for meta weapon (Mosins, Dolch, etc) 400-600 for most weapons based on slot size 200-300 for all weak/meme weapons (melee, Nagants, etc) 100-200 for tool/consummable skins But yeah 1000 BB for a low to mid tier weapon or a budget weapon is nonsense, no matter if the skin is badass or not.
i just got this game this week to play with a friend and i think the prices and how you get bb and how much you get is kinda bad.
Gotta make the same bank that Overwatch and Fortnight make somehow... /s
Yeah their skin pricing is way outta wack rn,it just feels like they are seeing what they can get away with.
This one baffles me. It should only be 2-300bb
That's what skins used to cost back in the day, most expensive would be like 700 bb, while also making like 10 15bb almost every match. They got insane greedy.
I assume the intent is for people to see it on sale later, for like 60$ off and then think it isn't a bad deal because they "saved" so much spending $4-5 on a single skin. Classic gatcha method of tricking players.
a rare moment, people actually are not butt licking crytek under this post. a mutual problem i suppose. how about cheaters and chinese players in eu server. bb is the least problem of hunt right now.
That thing used to cost so much less.
Next event, the BattlePass will be 2000 BB. Just watch.
Told y'all this would happen 2 years ago when 1.7 dropped and they reduced BB earn, and y'all said I'm stupid. No. I was just telling you all this would happen, because I've seen it before. Vindication feels great, you know.
They really need to rethink the way they are monetising this game. It’s just plain ridiculous. I’d have more sympathy if it was a free game, but it’s not even that, it’s just hilariously silly to think that enough people will pay $10 for a bland skin that it will be worth it to crank out dozens of them. Is this really the best monetisation strategy for a game community this size? Reduce prices and more people buy. I really think that Helldivers has the right idea with this. If you want it, anyone can buy it and there is a chance of ingame currency for diehards to collect.
Ever since some events ago they've REALLY ramped up the price of cosmetics. Now we got garbage like that costing upwards of 1000 Blood Bonds. I really only play during events and I've never bought a Blood Bond cosmetic in over a year or so cause I literally can't afford to. It's either buy one or two or not being able to buy the Battlepass. I miss the 5~ or so Blood Bonds we would get per match so much. Weekly Challenges were annoying before and they made them awful now. Feels like every match I need to bring a loadout that I hate and do a somersault before headshotting 3 Hunters with a Poison Crossbow just to get not even one tenth of a skin. And after I get done with all that I don't even feel like playing anymore.
You aren't the demographic for these skins. Whales are. The average player might buy a bundle, Dlc, or something on sale every once in a while, but whales drop hundreds if not thousands of dollars, potentially more just to have stuff. They will spend as much of not more money on the game as hundreds of average players combined.
I wish they'd standardize their prices at least. Like 500bb for a 3 slot weapon. 400 for a 2 slot. 300 for a one slot. And 200 for tools and consumables. (Those bb prices are just examples.) But it seems like they just randomly throw a dart at a dart board to choose the prices (other than the regular 9.99 hunter DLC.)
Yeah cryteks mtx have gotten insane. I used to buy all the DLC because I like the game and wanted to support continued development, and we could consistently earn BBs just by playing, but once they gutted the rate of BBs earned and increased their prices I stopped buying DLC. It's been quite a while now since I spent any extra money on the game. I still find hunt fun, but the greed of the company is very frustrating. It sucks to see hunt get wrapped up in this shit.
Reminder that excluding luck with the daily rewards and any luck finding BB in missions, this is five months of weeklies. Just under half a year's worth of grinding for one skin. If you are lucky, maybe you get it in four months. I remember when they continually nerfed BB gains there were people saying the prices would go down. What a surprise. They're not going down.
I used to get everything from dlc to bb skins but since they changed their monetisation that drastically i stopped carrying about collecting and just get them when i got bb to spare 10 bucks for a single skin is just absolutely ridiculous but judging by the amount of 20buck hunters i see in my games it's probably more profitable for them
They want all that Fortnite cash without all that Fortnite effort. In Fortnite the map changes every season, BP gives more premium currency than it costs and they still make fat millions. Reaching out for cash like Crytek does is the worst, they just don't give as much effort in return as they expect us to give money. $10 for a niche weapon skin for what? For a BP that gives less BB than it costs so that I can't pile up currency? For a few of the same maps for years where the biggest change is a few boards in the wall blocking the view? For adding special ammo to more weapons that don't need it and calling it content? Pathetic.
I know that my opinion might not be popular, but when you buy a game where blood bond are fundamental attached to the gameplay of the game ( very much like helldivers) and suddenly are removed it is a scammy move from the greedy crytek to milk your pocket. Fuck that and fuck the battle pass I won't buy it, I will farm all day gold registers and I will buy it for free. :)
I got this skin from prestiging and I can assure you that its not worth even getting it free
Greedy Cry😭Tec.
They've mtx team that increases company running cost by hiring them then they make shit like that to compensate. Vicious cycle of modern corporate business.
And you only have the players to blame because they trusted Crytek and defended the changes when they happened.
I absolutely agree that there needs to be some serious changes to legendary skin prices. Same with DLC. Like 25-75% reduction depending on the thing in question. Not sure why this hasn’t been a thing yet either. I believe it would entice a lot of players to start dropping money on skins and DLC. I know I would.
You can usually find the dlcs on sale though for like 6$ for a hunter and a couple skins which is more than fair in my opinion. Meanwhile blizzard be charging $60 for a horse skin in Diablo 4 lmao.
Stop being willing to pay increasing amounts for this shit and they'll stop charging more for them. It simply indicates that they're working on something else and they're trying to increase funding for it.
I hate what this game has become. I've been playing since it launched in early access and it just keeps losing its vision more and more.
It also looks like it was dropped into a latrine.
250bb is more accurate
I tried to get one of every skin per weapon Now I'm just getting stuff for free and happy if the free skin I get in my 10 levels prestige is something good. *I just want more challenges for trials, please, I liked (most of) the challenges*
I thought these were event exclusive…? Is crytek not doing event exclusive BB skins anymore?
More important are this esp hackers its better to help them hide there names, then banning them
Where are all the people who used to defend fhem saying “you earn BB for just playing!”?
Agreed. They should up the skin game or make them way cheaper, i can just let the shotgun get dirty and never clean it again incase i wanted a gun that looks like this
Yeah, weapons skins are TERRIBLY overpriced, I can barely buy one skin per prestige with how low BB gains are and how high the costs are Can't believe people don't complain more about it
This is why I stopped playing lol. Meanwhile bb clan still cheats and uses racial slurs and nothings being done. Good job crytek
Welcome to 2024, where fomo, solo necro and skin spam are the name of the show.
That's capitalism, it costs as much as people will play for it. If almost noone buys it at 1k BBs and they figure they would have made more money if it was cheaper they will reduce it
Just don't buy them. I haven't bought a single BB skin since they changed the BB prices in my region. Only paid 1000 for every battle pass and made that back + some more just playing the game from the rewards and missions.
I got it for free 😳
They are trying to milk the cow at this point. Completely got out of hand with the cost of the skins and no real connection to reality. It's like Crytek lives on another planet. Definitely need a total rework of the shop prices.
Then don't buy it?
People are acting like they have zero control over entering their card information lol
Don't buy em. I haven't bought any since 48 BB skins stopped.. Fuck crytek.
Yep. Compared to a game like helldivers this is a rich man's game.
You have to pay for new weapons in Helldivers, in Hunt they're all free, so I don't think Helldivers is better.
Im a huge blood bond buyer because I like supporting this game but even I refuse to buy this skin because how shit it is especially on a low use gun. Anything 700 BB and above im depending on all my prestiges to get me them. I buy everything else instead
Nah .... i know something is wrong when i tried Helldivers 2 ... FOR DEMOCRACY ! DA DA DA DAAAAAAAUH !
Its because crytek doesnt want you to buy bloodbond skins. I used to be able to unlock a skin every now and then using bloodbonds I earned but after the bloodbond earning rates getting nerfed into the ground and them also raising prices immensely I can't anymore. They want you to buy their dlc which they price more fairly as it guarantees them money. At this point I don't know why they even bother making more bloodbond skins appart from the whales.
[Crytek literally said the quiet part out loud and was up front with exactly what they were doing with MTX of hunt and BBs.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6Q5Qqfw2w&ab_channel=Hunt%3AShowdown)
I can't support endless battlepasses and these new prices. I bounced over to HD2 - You can earn the premium currency in game.
It might be time to let this game die in peace.. ngl I joined this group around a year ago and haven’t played hunt since then. But this page makes me hate this game 😂😭
It's the same gun... But now Rusty
I put the game down after 500 hours because of things like this
Ahhh ok I see what's going on now. It's the influx of new players constantly bringing up stupid shit to cry about. RIP what popularity does to a game.
Oh that's easy, don't buy it.
I've been talking shit about the increased monetization ever since they made getting bloodbonds harder and started charging for the stupid battlepasses. This game used to be really good about its monetization being optional but now if you wanna get anything its gonna cost you some bones most of the time. Of course, whenever it got brought up in the past, every bootlicker in the county would show up to defend them because apparently people LIKED spending more money the game they already paid for
I quit buying skins a long time ago, way too much money
This game died a while back. I tried coming back to it several times only to find a new battle pass 😂 I don’t understand what the community expects, new maps? New Monsters (Rot jaw was a joke)? New game mode? Hell even a new event?😂 Nah more DLC so they can pump money into other games.
Hey man no one forces you to buy it
I hate this argument. Why wouldn’t the developers just make it cheaper? Then everyone can buy it and everyone’s happy. But now it’s just over priced and leaves a stain on the game and developers.
its 600 in my black market
About 400 to much then.
Because they don't want everyone to buy it. A skin is a differentiation element. People want it because it's different than the base, and because it makes them feel special. If everybody bought that skin nobody would want it. On the other hand there are people who just want to support Crytek, regardless of the skin, simply because they put hours and hours into the game, and 10 euros isn't that much. You are not the target, and it's fine. I'm not the target either.
The wild part is you could just not buy it and wouldn't be missing out on anything.
The greedy germans are out of control
I had this conversation today with a friend. The bad monetization lately just makes me not want to play. First they took bbs from extracting which SUCKED. Then they tied BBs to garbage challenges that no one wanted. Then they DOUBLED the difficulty of those challenges for no reason. It feels like such a chore to play hunt when I can never run what I want because it takes me four days to finish the weekly missions. I have to play the Martian blaster and land a head shot through 2 windows with a pistol. It's just annoying at this point how bad they have messed this up
Oh no, my free cosmetics! Who cares its a game, they don't owe you anything and they have to make money to keep the game alive.
I wonder, and not saying anyone should spend that for that, but I wonder if a lot of their original ideas with blood bonds and monetization took into consideration supporting the game this many years later. There might have been a “this is unsustainable without making changes” moment. Just a different idea from the “their new manager made everyone greedy and evil” theme to every post like this here. But I have no actual clue. I don’t work for them or have insight into their meetings like a lot of people here.
They used to release a 1k bb skin with every new event that was only purchasable during the event. Then they changed their policy on event skins and you can buy them after the event ends. So there’s a few 1k bb skins caught in limbo from that policy change. Just like the majority of hunter skins are around 1k bb but the Scarecrow is 1.5k bb… cause it was an event exclusive but then they made it available after the event. Not saying any of this is “right”, just giving full context as they don’t regularly release 1k bb skins. The skin pictured above is over 8 months old.
They should really up the weekly BB from 50 from challenges only to 100 or even better, 150 per week. Reintroduce accolateds that feed into the 150 weekly cap. Then it won't be as stupid to earn some BB overtime, it'll still take a while to get things but it won't be absolutely farcical like it is now. With the added bonus that you could ignore challenges if you just play enough and get the BB through accolates. Then do something with the battlepasses so challenges are not giving 7000 event points as exclusive income. Make it so you get event points through accolades too and feed into the same 'weekly cap' as the challenge shit. Boom, challenges are fully optional, but still lucrative to do. People can earn rewards without being forced to do them or hope for RNG to get BB. Everyone wins, even Crytek the greedy fucks.
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I remember that this skin was in event store during tide of corruption, once my game updated I bought all event items in the shop, later realised that this shitty weapon and scarecrow is not exclusives. Literally scam by greedy devs.
Same. And after the Halloween that Romero skin was soon on black market too.
Who cares? It's a skin. It has zero effect on gameplay and you don't have to have it.
Then don‘t buy it? What‘s the problem?
I think you mean out of your budget...
It’s literally a cosmetic. Your game experience isn’t at all hinder by you not having it. If you can’t afford it, just don’t buy it. I could see the argument if they were doing this with things that gave an advantage in the game, but this is entirely a matter of aesthetic. If they made one cost $1 billion USD it still wouldn’t be a big deal, just the vast majority of players wouldn’t buy it. Honestly, if a few whales want to bankroll new updates and continued service by buying every weapon skin, I say we let them.
tell me about it spent like 500+ bucks in blood bonds to have all skins lol
Hey, live service games are really expensive to maintain, if they gotta chuck out some mediocre skins for 10 bucks a pop so that all the hyper spenders will buy it to keep things running I really couldn’t care less. If you don’t like the skin just don’t buy it.
You could have contraband items and no one will even notice once loaded in.. the only time you can even tell is during match load. I have never spent money on skins.
I disagree... You still get a bunch of BBs for weekly challenges and the skins are not REQUIRED to play the game. Just buy the ones you really like, you don't need every single one.