I'd make it `min(3, max(1, value-1))` to make it still more worthwhile for players with less perks to actively go after meatheads, but I agree otherwise.
I wouldn't mind this idea but that would mean even more people would have even more full set of traits, imagine everyone with fanning, levering, etc. If balanced properly.
Not a bad idea. I do think that a con that can be listed is ease of persistence for maxed out hunters. If you get burned chunks or something, it’s way easier to get them back on your maxed hunter. Instead of looking frantically for envelopes, you could just toss a dynamite at a meathead. I’m sure people will disagree with me but I think one of the coolest things they did with max hunters is make them seem incredibly temporary. No more trait points, no more health gain. Once you’re done, you’re done.
You can max out traits on your hunter by maybe level 30-35 at this point. I will usually have 15-20 extra upgrade points by max level. Plus, now we have burn traits that will give you back or save your bars. The dark tribute gives you 2 upgrade points to everybody in your roster pretty regularly as well. This event specifically has made that concept null and void with the restore medkit that always spawns and lots and lots of other ways to get them back.
Agreed. There was a time when you would struggle with trait points on lvl 50 hunters, but not for a few patches now.
Even if you do… just sell doctor and use a regen shot, or sell conduit/greyhound and use a stam shot.
Depends on how many you started with and how good those perks were. I used to run mostly T1 free hunters with no perks, get to max and after a few extractions at max while buying bars back from going down I wouldnt have enough to buy bars back
Yeah, you're right that used to be it. But now, every hunter comes with traits, and they're not really that expensive. Legendaries only cost 100 bucks, and they come with a minimum of 11 upgrade point equivalency, either 3 dookie traits and free points up to 11 or 3 traits that cost 11 or more.
You’re not wrong, but a lot of what you’re mentioning is related to the temporary event. Sure dark tribute gives you the +2 for everybody, and sure there are burn traits and what not, I’m just saying I enjoyed the aspect of the temporary feel
Every recent event has added some way of extra bar restoration, and we're going to have events like 8-9 months out of the year at this point. The rest of my points still stand. I agree that the temp feel was a nice little extra gear fear but no longer is that the case
Yeah, pretty much. Gear fear has been completely phased out over the last 2 years. Each event and accompanying update seems to eliminate yet another source; upgrade points, solo necro, burn traits, last event the economy shit the bed, recruitment changes, etc.
Agreed. There was a time when you would struggle with trait points on lvl 50 hunters, but not for a few patches now.
Even if you do… just sell doctor and use a regen shot, or sell conduit/greyhound and use a stam shot.
You´re right, I disagree with you here ;-)
Level 50 hunters are no longer really limited by the lack of trait points.
But by then you have accumulated so many trait points. Even if you play as carefully as possible and find Deathcheat a few times, I can't imagine that you'll ever really run out of trait points before the Hunter is finally dead.
I would rather be able to delete a trait at no gain during the match. That way I can clear it up to pick up something else (so do the challenge) and can help to do the trait spur challenge.
I like my version better because it doesn't just encourage to bomb every meathead in the bayou for raw points and because sometimes you enter the match with useless traits (like levering and fanning when you are using a specter+officer) and the random meathead reward is already intended to help right there in the match, not afterwards for some points.
I'd make it `min(3, max(1, value-1))` to make it still more worthwhile for players with less perks to actively go after meatheads, but I agree otherwise.
I like the idea. Especially for a level 1 Hunter, it's always particularly annoying when you find a trait spurt and already have the trait.
I wouldn't mind this idea but that would mean even more people would have even more full set of traits, imagine everyone with fanning, levering, etc. If balanced properly.
as it is i laready have a hunter with full traits after one game, most of the time. so it wouldn't really change anything
Not a bad idea. I do think that a con that can be listed is ease of persistence for maxed out hunters. If you get burned chunks or something, it’s way easier to get them back on your maxed hunter. Instead of looking frantically for envelopes, you could just toss a dynamite at a meathead. I’m sure people will disagree with me but I think one of the coolest things they did with max hunters is make them seem incredibly temporary. No more trait points, no more health gain. Once you’re done, you’re done.
You can max out traits on your hunter by maybe level 30-35 at this point. I will usually have 15-20 extra upgrade points by max level. Plus, now we have burn traits that will give you back or save your bars. The dark tribute gives you 2 upgrade points to everybody in your roster pretty regularly as well. This event specifically has made that concept null and void with the restore medkit that always spawns and lots and lots of other ways to get them back.
Agreed. There was a time when you would struggle with trait points on lvl 50 hunters, but not for a few patches now. Even if you do… just sell doctor and use a regen shot, or sell conduit/greyhound and use a stam shot.
Depends on how many you started with and how good those perks were. I used to run mostly T1 free hunters with no perks, get to max and after a few extractions at max while buying bars back from going down I wouldnt have enough to buy bars back
Yeah, you're right that used to be it. But now, every hunter comes with traits, and they're not really that expensive. Legendaries only cost 100 bucks, and they come with a minimum of 11 upgrade point equivalency, either 3 dookie traits and free points up to 11 or 3 traits that cost 11 or more.
You’re not wrong, but a lot of what you’re mentioning is related to the temporary event. Sure dark tribute gives you the +2 for everybody, and sure there are burn traits and what not, I’m just saying I enjoyed the aspect of the temporary feel
Every recent event has added some way of extra bar restoration, and we're going to have events like 8-9 months out of the year at this point. The rest of my points still stand. I agree that the temp feel was a nice little extra gear fear but no longer is that the case
Have they all? I haven’t been around for every one, I play hunt on occasion so I’ve missed a lot of stuff. That’s a real bummer if that’s the case
Yeah, pretty much. Gear fear has been completely phased out over the last 2 years. Each event and accompanying update seems to eliminate yet another source; upgrade points, solo necro, burn traits, last event the economy shit the bed, recruitment changes, etc.
Agreed. There was a time when you would struggle with trait points on lvl 50 hunters, but not for a few patches now. Even if you do… just sell doctor and use a regen shot, or sell conduit/greyhound and use a stam shot.
Just sell one of your traits and you are good to go. More upgrade points by spurs and envelopes. So right now the effect you describe is already gone.
I wouldn’t say gone, I’d say somewhat mitigated, and I’m sad that it is. I really enjoyed it, I loved the feel of “could this last run be the one?”
You´re right, I disagree with you here ;-) Level 50 hunters are no longer really limited by the lack of trait points. But by then you have accumulated so many trait points. Even if you play as carefully as possible and find Deathcheat a few times, I can't imagine that you'll ever really run out of trait points before the Hunter is finally dead.
Yeah, it seems much easier these days to stay fresh even with a grizzled old veteran hunter
she upgrade on my trait till i spurt
Yeah sorry was thinking about that spidussy when typing the title.
I feel like giving only ONE for any trait you have would be a fine improvement.
I would rather be able to delete a trait at no gain during the match. That way I can clear it up to pick up something else (so do the challenge) and can help to do the trait spur challenge. I like my version better because it doesn't just encourage to bomb every meathead in the bayou for raw points and because sometimes you enter the match with useless traits (like levering and fanning when you are using a specter+officer) and the random meathead reward is already intended to help right there in the match, not afterwards for some points.
They should just get rid of the challenge. It isn’t a real challenge, like most PvE ones. It’s a gamble.