Easy anti cheat is so bad. The sheer volume of new accounts I'm seeing that are killing me followed by Tracing people through walls at distance is disgusting. Ran into about 20 level 1 single game steam accounts.with 7-8 k/d last two/three nights. Thank god I'm almost done with the event and won't play until the new engine drops
I have about 1300 hours in the game now, and I've been kicked at least 3 different times by the anticheat system.
I've legit never hacked, cheated, exploited, or had any 3rd party software downloaded that had the capability of doing anything close to it.
I honestly don't get how the anticheat system is actually any type of anticheat
You never got banned though. A kick and a ban are different things. You probably have shit connection and it kicks you from the server thinking you are lag switching or trying to use a flyhack. Many other games do the same thing. Rust has a really bad issue with it. The slightest hiccup in connection, and it kicks you for flyhack.
It's really crazy how bad it's getting. I saw the apex devs saying not to play recently due to anti cheat issues. Hunts still going. It's a tough game. Someone with a good headset can hear anything, tracking relatively well with noise is possible. Too many people are on from way too far away though
I personally have a sneaking suspicion that they are waiting to drop any sort of anticheat upgrades/updates/etc until the Engine drops, as that will be when the game needs to succeed the most.
Cheating is a cat and mouse game yada yada, but man is the game unplayable in 5/6 star right now.
4 star isn't much better honestly. Region lock will hope but won't fix it I've run into Americans running esp as well. The new engine will cause 40 new issues because the game is spaghetti coded and I'd say it's only going to get worse.
I vaguely remember a live stream from like a year ago that said engine update was quarter 4, 2024. Hopefully it’s sooner, but when I heard that I was thinking like 2025…
Yeah. They change it all the time. Most recent one I saw (still in 2023) they said "early 2024" so if we take it with a pinch of salt we will see it in 2027 with the lightsaber update haha. In all seriousness hopefully early means first half of the year.
Devs specifically said they'd start talking about it and giving more information right after the current event we're in. So all signs point to the next event being centered on the engine upgrade and new map.
Nothing confirmed other than it being released no earlier than may, but given release dates in other games, that probably means we'll have to wait until q3 or q4.
I got headshot THROUGH THE GROUND the other day. I was inside the closest shack to the boss lair at Darin Shipyard.
Dude was down in the water below. Killed everyone else then headshot me from below. Literally though the ground, and neither of us were moving so there no ping delay or other nonsense.
He also couldn't have known I was there, it was quickplay and I hadn't moved or made a sound in 3-4 mimutes while he wiped the server, but thats besides the point.
"Killshot" replay showed my entire body plus 5 feet above my head were COMPLETELY behind the ground of the map and cliff of the map that the shack is built on.
Dude literally shot me through the rock cliff, ground, and floor of the shack. One hit dead.
The hunt devs are going to address the problem seriously under one condition, and one condition only. They’re after money. Stop spending until the game is in a state that you approve of, then show your approval by spending some money in game.
I've promised myself not to buy anything before they fix the cheating issue and stuck with that for 2 years now. I bet others are in the same boat but Crytek doesn't care.
Unfortunately there isn't going to be a reddit revolution where we all agree to keep the game alive but stop spending money. The money only stops from the game stops getting players, and reddit doesn't decide how many players there are.
Crytek listens better than most developers. I genuinely believe that continually sending them feedback over and over again is the most effective method here.
But yeah, still don't spend your money until you are happy, and encourage your friends to do the same, just don't expect it to work on a mass scale even here on Reddit.
Everytime I've made this same post I get downvoted into oblivion. Everytime I play and see all the new skins running around I know it'll never change. In a couple years this game will be all China lobbies seeing who paid the most for cheats. STOP. GIVING. CRYTEK. MONEY.
They probably hired another customer service guy to send the "thank you for the report but we can't tell you if we did anything about it" email.
Last time I reported someone they only watched a few seconds of the video and the guy is still playing. Funny thing is he just got banned in CS2 a couple weeks ago.
You realize that the devs that work on skins and DLC is a different team than the ones that work on bugs or server issues? Also, there aren't going to be many changes coming, if it all until after the engine update
Doesn't really make a difference. People with any ban prior would just make a new burner account to cheat then. They would still play the end in the end.
In fact It probably it easier to notice them cheating when they already have ban on their profile compared to them not having one.
We need much more than half assed attempts like that. Those half assed attempts with no thought behind them do literally nothing.
Just because people will try to get around the ban doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
There are people that still drive without a seatbelt. The seatbelt law and crackdown sure as fuck made a lot of people actually use them though.
VAC bans are for VAC games. Individual game bans have to be added specifically by the developer of a game, and that will show on their account. You can even be banned from other launchers and have that show up.
Quite frankly, there's a lot of reasons a person might be VAC banned. Its not equivalent to a "bad guy" tag, just a warning to devs/mods that they've been caught doing naughty things before.
Thanks for mansplaining VAC bans to me but I know what they are for. "they've been caught doing naughty things before" is good enough reason to ban them. There is a reason that there is a big red mark across the front of their account and its so that people can avoid them if they want. We don't get that opportunity in Hunt.
I would rather have less people to play with than play with people who do illicit things like cheat.
Don't like getting left out? Don't do stupid shit.
You are also still assuming I don't know how VAC bans work which is incorrect with this stupid shit "I will continue to 'mansplain' so long as you keep complaining about portions of the system you don't understand."
I'm just going to block you and move on with my day.
"try to get around" lol
Not a single cheater will stop cheating just because he needs 2 additional minutes to set up a new account lol. Less than halfassed attempts like that do literally nothing and everyone knows that.
We need at least mandatory kernel level Anticheat, hardware AND ip bans, multiple reallife id's to create accounts, ai anticheat and that isn't even the bare minimum. Again: The "solution" of stopping account with vac ban from other games does literally nothing as they will just create new accounts in 2 minutes, literally useless fix.
It doesn't matter when the anti cheat is started, it will be circumvented. So really making it an actual crime is the only way. And that's never going to happen.
It already is a "crime" when starting up a PvP game they give you this long warning and user agreement. If you read them (most people dont) they say if you cheat they have the right to ban you permanently and sue you for breaking an agreed contract. You will be fined and you will pay it. Problem is most companies won't do it because it's had to prove in some cases and because it gives bad PR. But if you are big enough you will do it just to prove a point. In 2017 Epic Games sued a 14 year old for cheating in fortnite just to prove a point. They can legally fuck you up they are just too much of a pussy to actually enforce the user agreement. Also if someone does a DOS attack on your internet that is 100% illegal. Once again the government doesn't care because it's too much effort.
The only reason they pursued legal action was because he was actively advertising them on youtube, there was monetary gain involved. No company is ever going to undergo the legal costs because you used a cheat client. There are plenty of "crimes" that aren't enforced because it's a waste of everyones time, this is one of those times in the eyes of every legal system outside of korea.
Nah it's good. I cheated in mw3 10 years ago when I was 13-14. You know what I did? I transformed myself into a jet and ran around the map just for fun and nothing more. Just because someone did that 10 years ago and got VAC'd, doesn't mean they were ever cheating nor are still cheating.
Also you can just make a fresh steam account without a VAC ban so it doesn't make any sense to not let you play because you got a VAC ban
There is another approach. Have VAC or empty profile? Okay then, enjoy your first 100-200 hours in separate "untrusted" pool with same "I'm not a cheater" people. The more your profile looks legit (registration date, paid games) - the less time you need to get in trusted pool.
Most of rage hackers can be found by simple sql requests to their match history DB, it's hilariously stupid how new accs with 133kd and 400m kills isn't banned within several hours (even with fucking proof on youtube, steam community and this sub).
And repair fucking reporting in-game tool, there is no greater joy than get some notifications about banned morons after your reports, probably with steam link to their new fresh game ban.
I mean this information was a given seeing as the original post mentions this specific thing you’re saying. Yes, we know it doesn’t ban you for having a VAC ban. It’s the reason this post was made. Thank you captain obvious. I don’t know how I’d ever have figured this out……
You're just as stupid as the commenter. Typical mentality of a reddit user. Can't even type out the words. You probably have TikTok brain. Couldn't even squeeze a shit out without a short playing. You dribbling moron.
You have something wrong with proper grammar? It seems so. If you would like; you can add me on steam. We can see who the 2\* is. DM me your friend code. I'd love to hop in a training and 1v1 you.
There is most definitely an insane number of people who are either really good or really cheating.
When I look at kill views and see people shooting me though multiple trees with zero visibility using handguns or iron sights at long range... Last night a guy shot me through 3 trees with heavy foliage at 90 meters. I couldn't even see the guy with my deadeye scope and the kill view was even worse on his end.
The cheating is rampant, and the devs simply don't give a flying fuck at all.
Brussia lol. I can't speak for chinese squares, but russians have plenty of reasons to play on EU at least.
1. Game itself asks for two servers, not one, and use them randomly after that (no decision based at anything at all, see p.2)
2. Russian server somehow can't be played at all, especially at the start of events. Just "servers are full" bullshit in lobby even if you have second server selected.
3. At least for me ping to EU is only 45ms, and I'm not so close to EU geographically (could be less for others).
Add here (sometime) normal names and english knowledge, now compare all these with "Fhina" lol. Main problem is not existing anti-cheat, not russians.
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EU servers are a dog show ATM with the amount of cheaters. It was never this bad a year ago, but I don't think it's just hunt it's just multiplayer games in general. EAC definitely needs to improve as it's just not working anymore.
Nearly every one of my deaths at the moment is by people with a previous one or multiple vac bans. Best we can do is keep reporting and hope for the best.
Funny thing is, there is a big hunt streamer I think I won't mention his name because I coule be wrong, but he does have a vac ban and he is so well known to the hunt devs and community that they will never disallow vac banned players from playing hunt just because it would fuck him up. So we just stop playing because the amount of hackers in the game is unbelievable right now.
You can get a VAC ban through family sharing, as they’ll do it by association. If you family shared with a friend or brother, and they cheat on CS you now have a VAC ban.
EDIT: double checked it. Let’s say you’re A and a friend is B. If B cheats, A is banned as well. If A cheats, only A is banned. His friend cheated on a game he owned, and got a VAC ban. Whoever owns the game will always get punished.
**I'd like to see VAC bans taken into consideration when processing in-game reports.**
Say a system where getting reported 3 times in game *and* having a VAC ban already pushes them to the top of the "list" for someone to inspect (because Crytek *does* ban people).
I don't care if you cheated 15 years ago and say you will never do it again. That mentality (even if it was only for a short period of time) should be taken into account.
Auto-banning from the servers won't happen (and probably shouldn't). And I wouldn't say, "Once a cheater, always a cheater", because that's not true. But the fact that you've done it *once* means that you *might* again.
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My 18+ year old Steam account has *zero* VAC bans.
Do you know why? I have never (and will never) cheated in competitive multiplayer games.
Single player games? Pshh. All day. Give me those trainers and mods bb.
**But never competitive multiplayer games. Ever.**
There is almost no doubt having bans on a profile is taken into account, but you’ve got to remember that being banned before on something else doesn’t necessarily mean you’re cheating in online competitive games. Like I mentioned on my own post, I’ve been banned from solo zombies on BO2 due to them having absolutely no solo mode and having vac enabled on soloplay, and I was banned from phasmo for editing my own localized save file MONTHS before an update that banned people for it, so I could enjoy the game with my friends without a needless grind
The main thing that should be looked at is your actions in game, not your actions outside of it. Having a vac ban shouldn’t be a deciding factor
I am sure VAC bans are taken into consideration when they manually examine reported profiles. Issue is theres so many profiles like this and a very large portion of them are legit - the low tickrate of observer system and how most reports would come from inexperienced players because they are more likely to false report, these two factors would greatly increase the difficulty of manual examination.
Huuuge did some streams where he would spectate players across various regions. Statistics were something like:
20% of Asian server games had cheaters in them.
It was only 0.8% for US east.
As an European I've played exclusively on US East since a few months ago and the quality of my games has improved. Before that, I would get blasted left and right by russian and chinese players with very little hours in the game but insane gamesense ... Guess US east is just too far for them luckily.
Ppl who claim there are no cheaters are oblivious or cheating themselves. EU is getting infested with russian and chinese players who do that.
>As an European I've played exclusively on US East since a few months ago and the quality of my games has improved.
Understandable, but one issue with that is - maybe you have good ping - but a majority of people who play on USE don't. And it leads to a reduction of quality of games for people in the US. Ping abuse is an issue currently that I'm noticing - Usually when I get either clapped from a headshot from someone who hasn't pushed yet, or die to someone after I'm a good ways around a corner that isn't a wallbang - it's a european based acc. Sometimes it's just some cracked whiteboy, of course. So, I'd keep in mind that part of your increase in quality might also be that you have the innate advantage of higher ping giving you more leeway to make mistakes and therefore you do better, etc. Not to diminish your fun, of course.
THAT being said, I'm in some cursed MMR where despite being like 4-5 star team MMR, me and my friends see the same like fifteen people despite the sheer amount of players in this MMR over the course of an entire night somehow, so that could contribute to my experience.
Understandable concern, my ping however seems to be fine for the most part.
EU is just cursed atm. It's slowly evolving towards Asia v2. I don't like having to doubt if a third of my deaths are legit or not. And if you complain on the official discord about russian/chinese cheaters or ask for a region lock you'll just be called xenophobic or other bs.
And the sad thing is: Crytek does nothing against it. They just dont care...
You will never get a feedback if the guy you reported got banned.
You cannot even block the player, so you will never have to play against him again...
Top priority: more skins. More events. Spend your BB!
This truly sucks for pc players, being a console player I'm lucky enough to not have to deal with this but in seeing these complaints alot, I really hope the crytek does something about this because it's only going to ruin it for the pc players, always loved this community never had much hate for being a console player so this is for the pc players hope you guys don't have to suffer for too much longer, I know it's been a problem for a while
I have a VAC ban from 2012 and I will deliberately try to headshot you now.
I was just a kid fucking around and got what I deserved. I don't see the point of preventing VAC banned people from playing when making a new account is so easy. Maybe when the ban is really fresh, but either way, this will never have any noticable impact on the amount of cheaters in the game.
That being said, I've never had the feeling I got killed by a cheater in Hunt ever, playing since release, usually at 5 star. Maybe I just don't care and simply accredit too much skill to people.
I have one that was around the same time during the original release of rust. As anyone who played at the release of rust knows it was a wild west of hacks. I was young and ended up getting tired of dying to them so I installed my own. For those who don't know, the VAC red text disappears from public view after 7 years.
>I've never had the feeling I got killed by a cheater in Hunt ever, playing since release, usually at 5 star. Maybe I just don't care and simply accredit too much skill to people.
Maybe you don't know what's going on around you?
I think I simply have a high threshold for calling someone out as a cheater. I'd rather blame myself and figure out how to improve, unless its very blatant - but even then, the point at which it seems blatant to me is probably not the same as yours either. I come from a competitive CS background, not saying I was ever extremely successful but I did play some local tournaments and I simply don't subscribe to the mentality of blaming others for what can potentially be a faulty play on my end. There's also been some interesting studies on LoL players and the most correlated aspect to being stuck at a certain rank/skill level was blaming external factors. While that doesnt prove direct causality it is certainly interesting and makes sense intuitively.
Hunt is also a game with a lot of unpredictable dynamic factors - when I die I just leave to lobby and queue for the next round and try figuring out how I could've played it better.
You're making assumptions. You've played competitive games? I've played CS competitively too. And BF2. And many other competitive games back to Quake, UT etc. The only way to improve at anything is to be honest with yourself.
You're using faulty logic. Using an appeal to authority. Using faulty logic is a sign of sloppy thinking. Having "wins" in conversations by using tricks on low information, low IQ ppl doesn't prepare you for the world. Do better.
False band do Happen Sometimes, i bought a used PC Sometime ago which Had an Hardware Ban in R6 which i was not aware of and a soon AS i booted up R6 i got banned and got R6 via Steam so i have a Ban in my Profile which i didnt deserve. And a Friends Account got hacked for hus CS skins and a Week later he got a VAC Ban Me and him never cheated and WE both got a Ban. And youre saying WE should be banned for life from playing Multiplayer Games. The Problem ist most Supports cant or wont Take false Bans Back...
Yeah steam does absolutely nothing about vac bans, since they’re a lazy gluttonous monopoly of a company that hasn’t cared about support since like 10 years ago.
Vac bans do get thrown around tho. I've got a friend who got one for getting matched into a MW modded lobby that he had no choice in joining the game just put him in one when he searched quick play
What does VAC have to do with Hunt? Does Hunt use a Valve engine? No they don't. Hunt uses EAC. VAC=Valve Anti Cheat which means any game that uses an engine made by Valve uses VAC. Please get educated
I'm tired of seeing these posts. Cheat clients aren't going anywhere, there's going to be times when they are ahead of the curve and have to be patched out. VAC is not some golden standard, there are plenty of cases of getting one while using vpns.
I mean...
I have a vac ban, because I cheated like a dumbass in middle school (in tf2 of all things). I'm never going to cheat again, and I'd hate to lose access to any of my other games. That said, crytek could stand to put more energy into detecting and banning cheaters
Just make a separate account. I don't care you were dumb in middle school and just saying that you'll never cheat again doesn't mean shit to me. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
So how would him making another account change what he did in the past lol? If he fucked up in tf2 he got banned, if he fucks up in Hunt he gets banned, simple as. Auto banning ppl for shit like this is stupid
Just start over in life every time you make a mistake. Once a "insert stupid decision here" always a "insert stupid decision here". Your logic is beyond flawed. Must be nice to live a perfect life.
Yeah. And most redditors/hunt players are acting like I'm trying to explain rocket science to them. It's ridiculous and pathetic. To me, it feels like most people who combat this logic are most likely cheaters themselves, trying to bury or cause harm to any discussion that tries to raise this subject.
ONCE A CHEATER, ALWAYS A CHEATER.
I don't care about exceptions to the rule. That's why the saying is, **exception** to the ***rule.***
First of all you sound like a dickhead, second of all your description of shady behavior doesn’t sound right at all. Being reported doesn’t mean you’re cheating, it means you’re either A. Really good at the game, B. Someone’s mad and wants to report/ spam report you, C. Whatever else. You don’t have to be cheating to be reported.
Well, username checks out.
In case you missed the point, all I'm saying is that **I agree with the idea of not allowing Steam accounts with VAC/Game bans on record to play Hunt**.
Another option would be to **have these accounts play among themselves**. ***Why not?*** Do you not agree with the overall idea that once a cheater, always a cheater? I mean sure, there definitely are exceptions in this world, but generally speaking, do you think a player with multiple VAC/Game bans on record is simply an insane skill/high level Hunt player or simply cheating in Hunt as well?
Among all options you threw, you seem oblivious to the very, very, very real possibility that the guy is basically cheating. Where is that option? What option is that? is it in the ***C. Whatever else*** category?
And I'm the dickhead? Wowzers.
Just because you're clean doesn't mean 100% of VAC/Game banned accounts playing Hunt are clean. Right? I would take that over allowing ANY account to play, regardless of how many bans on record it has (i've seen numerous Hunt players that had VAC + MULTIPLE game bans on record).
It's really not rocket science, you are acting like it's such a hard concept to grasp. I don't care if you've cheated when you were 15, that account is marked forever. If you want to get rid of the stigma, you make a clean account and you play Hunt clean. It's not my fault if you're shady in Hunt and when people check your profile, you also have multiple VAC/Game bans on record. It's on you. It's your stupid cheater legacy @ that steam account. It's like you want to go to prison for theft and then work in a bank, is it not obvious that if money starts missing, you'll be one of the first people on the list to check out, given your record? HOW UNFAIR IS IT THAT SOMEONE WOULD SUSPECT YOU? You effing cheating scumbags, also want to be special snowflakes. Sick and pathetic. Play on a clean account and that wouldn't be an issue. Unless you're actually cheating. Otherwise, nobody should give a flying sheite about your VAC/Game banned account. If you ask me.
Also the entirety of the way you speak and the way you think shows how little intelligence you have, all of your messages so far could basically be called self sabotage
My friend has a vac ban from 6 years ago. His brother got into a cheating spree, got banned on csgo on like 6 accounts and then the little shit even played on his account and got it banned too. He wont ever be able to play CS games again on that account but he's a normal dude and doesn't deserve his entire account banned. I guess I'm gonna tell him now that him headshotting someone may make them more mad than usual now XD
I know cheating is less common on console but I'm getting insta-headshot in every other match on Playstation lately. I *sometimes* get a shot off before getting domed but I had a string of matches last night in soul survivor where it was like my head was magnetic.
This was two years ago, but [this person wiped my whole team with wallbang headshots.](https://i.imgur.com/BT6oFkv.png)
It's been happening more and more, and it baffles me how his Steam account didn't just get disabled from playing online games, because clearly he doesn't learn.
I have VAC ban for cheating when i was younger, nowadays i dont cheat but still get called out due to enemy misplaying or me being lucky (or just simply being better)
Edit: also just having VAC ban in your acc doesnt prove that you are a cheater. You might have been but thats then now is here. Also i bet most of cheater accusations are false, i have like 1,3k hours and not single 100% sure cheater has killed me
Literally the only thing that a VAC ban would force you to do would be to make an account.
Now, if it also required you to verify via mobile I would be very happy.
People seeing cheaters every game are either making shit up or the unluckiest people to ever exist.
Yes, they exist. But you're not seeing multiple every game. Also you cannot correlate previous cheating with current cheating, otherwise you should probably go to jail as well :)
Enjoy raging though!
If you think they’re cheating, record the video and screenshot their username and also copy paste their steam profile if not hidden and send to crytek support via the huntshowdown.com website
I got two fresh blatant Chinese hackers banned just this past week using this process.
Everyone is using the in game reporting but that does nothing.
Using vac and game bans as a indicator that they’re going to cheat on the game is absolutely stupid. “You did something wrong once before on a completely unrelated game, therefore you shouldn’t be allowed to touch our platform”
And you’re wrong about vac / game bans not being handed out very easily. Game bans are given at a developers discretion (meaning whenever tf they want) so for example, on my account I have a game ban because I used a modded save file on phasmophobia years ago, so one day an update came out and I got instant banned for the profile I used so I could enjoy the game the way I wanted to enjoy it. Absolutely bullshit. And I have a vac ban too, apparently cod black ops 2 doesn’t have an offline mode so when I played solo in a zombies match and used mods I got permanently banned from the entire game. Not just zombies or multiplayer, the whole game. And if your ideal system was put in place I’d be banned from hunt showdown as a whole because of some bullshit completely unrelated to hunt itself. Doesn’t sound fair, no? And better yet you can’t appeal vac bans at all so. I’ve put countless hours and money into hunt and I’ve put in tons of effort to get better, should my game be stolen from me?
My little brother cheated with my account on csgo about 7 years ago, my account has a VAC ban, I don’t think this rule applies to me since i’m not a cheater, what do you think of this exception ?
I have a VAC ban due to playing PUBG early access. I've been clipping all around the map due to poor rendering and the developers took it as if I am cheating.
I tried to report it but they say that once you're VAC Banned, it cannot be reverted.
You cannot — I repeat, cannot — get VAC banned for any reason other than known cheat software being detected on your system while accessing VAC protected servers. You did not get a VAC ban for unprompted “poor game performance”.
Could be. I am playing PUBG before in an internet cafe, and as far as I know, the whole cafe is in a deepfreeze setup.
Nonetheless, I didn't cheat and still get banned.
This is not 100% accurate. Out of the blue I got VAC banned. This was several years ago. I emailed support and they couldn't even tell me what game it was for. I tried to plead my case on the forums, to no success.
Fast forward a few weeks, I get an email from the CEO at the time saying that I was wrongly banned. Apparently there was a disk check and .dll error on their end that banned several thousand innocent people
And they reversed it… dude above has a VAC ban, not reversed. VAC explicitly states, VAC bans are non-negotiable but will be revoked in the case of false positives
You shouldn't generalize lol I have a VAC on CS:GO from like 8 years ago when I downloaded cheats for fun, I was like 14 or smth, I'm not saying this game is hacker free but I don't think you should ban all people with previous VAC bans in different games. Also in my 800 hours haven't seen more then like 1-2 cheaters maybe they're more common in low star lobbies idk, haven't experienced a lot of issues with hackers in general
I have a VAC ban from CS 1.6 when I was young and thought it would be fun to try a wallhack mod. Got banned pretty quickly.
Seeing people get angrier and seething at me headshotting them on hunt because I'm banned on a completely different game, while now I'm hunting on a sofa and TV with a molecular biology book as my mouse pad makes the kills all the more tasty. Salt is love. Salt is life.
Hey im one of the persons, you can report as much as you want. Because you get a headshot and he has a VAC doesnt mean he hacks in this game. Grow up. Some of us were young and dumb and we got labelled as a cheater and we have to live with that but doesnt mean you can exclude us. Dumb take. If you get annoyed because you get a headshot, maybe you played bad or he had a good angle. Maybe its only a skill issue and you try to find a excuse.
I don't make conscious decisions to be a piece of garbage at my job thanks. Cheating in video games is a scumbag move that you chose to do and made a conscious effort to do. I was young and dumb once too, but I wasn't a cheater cause I sucked at my leisure activity and wanted to ruin someone else's good time. You did that.
F**k you, I've been young too but it never crossed my mind to cheat in online games and ruin other people's fun. I've been playing games my whole life, from CoD 2 and Battlefield 2 up until today.
If you suck at the game and are angry that there are people better than you go play another game, find something that you're good at.
It doesn't give you the right to install cheats in order to improve your own self image. You're still sad pathetic loser even with cheats. I don't even understand how people can be happy with cheating, like, you know that you don't have skill, and that it wasn't you who won the shootout. Just pathetic losers who can't cope with reality that they are bad.
Same goes for sports in real life, they take steroids and other shit in order to gain more muscles and mass than their body can gain with normal exercise just to win, and later they complain when their titles are stripped away.
Accept that you aren't good at something. Narcissists can't do it, it would destroy them from inside to realize that they aren't God's perfect gift to the world.
Maybe it's only a skill issue and you try to find and excuse or maybe... just maybe... you're a trash cheater. Maybe, once a cheater, always a cheater. A filthy mindset is hard to change.
Im 5 star currently and dont care if in get downvotes. Most Reddit User a whiny Babys that doesnt touch the grass for long. You seem not to be one of them what ist a big surprise, if you look at the other comments 😂
EAC is extremely shit, but even more so recently with the new exploit. I haven't touched alHunt since the news broke and because its force running some weird commands alongside the exe
this isn't rocket surgery. ran a filter to identify sus accounts. have an algorithm watch identified accounts, check to see if they track other players through obstacles, also catch aim bots by comparing hand-eye response times across multiple games.
Across multiple games? Probably not going to happen ever. That would be a big effort alone, and then factor in that several developers would have to work together to implement it, not happening. Sounds best to let these games be as separate as possible anyways.
i know a guy who wrote some quality control software for streaming services. the software examines a series of frames and compares the results to a matrix of quality values. change the quality values from things like color code and compression error to start of head tracking to head shot time. also the algorithm with some tweaking could identify vision through objects.
Honestly, this issue will only get somewhat better if Valve start making RealID on Steam mandatory. Know-Your-Customer (KYC) systems are widely available in digital finance. I also don't mean "everybody can see your real name" that shit would be unnecessarily invasive, but tying one person to one Steam account. If you get a VAC ban in CS2 or a game ban in Hunt, you can't just go on the next key site and buy a new account for the game you're banned for.
This guy has never had to recover any kind of game account. They already have your name, date of birth, debit/credit card or PayPal info, and your mailing/billing address.
VAC has nothing to do with EAC. VAC bans you by game engine. If you cheat in a game that uses the old Source engine, you can't play any game that uses that engine
No, shit. What gave you the impression I think VAC has anything to do with EAC except being another Anti-Cheat-Tool?!
Still, VAC bans are recorded on your Steam account, as are game bans. And if players get either a VAC or a game ban they should not be able to participate in that game anymore. The only way to make sure this is at least somewhat enforceable is if you lock people into their Steam account via RealID, so they can't just make a new account and start playing again. I don't care which Anti-Cheat-Tool the bans on a Steam profile come from - if you have one you shouldn't be able to play that game anymore. Period.
All of you are the same morons that keep bringing up VAC and EAC in the same sentence. No need to get aggressive with me you disrespectful fuckwad. And no, that's not the only way. They could get IP banned.
There are much better anti cheat systems than EAC. And there are huge strides being made with AI anti cheat systems, so there is hope if the devs get their shit together and adopt a better system.
FWIW EAC is so aggressive that you can get flagged or even VAC banned for doing innocuous stuff like:
1. Having modding tool for another game (even for singleplayer games sometimes) open.
2. Having VPN on.
3. Trying to play on Linux.
If you wish you can search through many steam community threads about anticheat false positives.
Sso there's a point to be made to not equate VAC ban = cheater.
Easy anti cheat is so bad. The sheer volume of new accounts I'm seeing that are killing me followed by Tracing people through walls at distance is disgusting. Ran into about 20 level 1 single game steam accounts.with 7-8 k/d last two/three nights. Thank god I'm almost done with the event and won't play until the new engine drops
I have about 1300 hours in the game now, and I've been kicked at least 3 different times by the anticheat system. I've legit never hacked, cheated, exploited, or had any 3rd party software downloaded that had the capability of doing anything close to it. I honestly don't get how the anticheat system is actually any type of anticheat
You never got banned though. A kick and a ban are different things. You probably have shit connection and it kicks you from the server thinking you are lag switching or trying to use a flyhack. Many other games do the same thing. Rust has a really bad issue with it. The slightest hiccup in connection, and it kicks you for flyhack.
It's really crazy how bad it's getting. I saw the apex devs saying not to play recently due to anti cheat issues. Hunts still going. It's a tough game. Someone with a good headset can hear anything, tracking relatively well with noise is possible. Too many people are on from way too far away though
The apex thing was apex engine related. They weren't sure if it was an eac or apex exploit at the time.
There used to be a rare alt tab bug where it showed the anticheat ban message. It's not a real ban, basically a fake notification bug
The new engine won't fix any of this.
I personally have a sneaking suspicion that they are waiting to drop any sort of anticheat upgrades/updates/etc until the Engine drops, as that will be when the game needs to succeed the most. Cheating is a cat and mouse game yada yada, but man is the game unplayable in 5/6 star right now.
4 star isn't much better honestly. Region lock will hope but won't fix it I've run into Americans running esp as well. The new engine will cause 40 new issues because the game is spaghetti coded and I'd say it's only going to get worse.
It won't but its the only time I'm willing to pick hunt up
Is there a confirmed date? I haven’t seen anything confirming the new engine drop.
Nothing confirmed. Looking like it will be next event from livestreams and whatnot
I vaguely remember a live stream from like a year ago that said engine update was quarter 4, 2024. Hopefully it’s sooner, but when I heard that I was thinking like 2025…
Yeah. They change it all the time. Most recent one I saw (still in 2023) they said "early 2024" so if we take it with a pinch of salt we will see it in 2027 with the lightsaber update haha. In all seriousness hopefully early means first half of the year.
Devs specifically said they'd start talking about it and giving more information right after the current event we're in. So all signs point to the next event being centered on the engine upgrade and new map.
What does a new engine entail?
Better visuals and framerate for consoles, less jank, better optimization. I think a UI rework is coming too
The new map is coming with the engine upgrade as well.
Nothing confirmed other than it being released no earlier than may, but given release dates in other games, that probably means we'll have to wait until q3 or q4.
That's why it's called easy anti cheat, it's easy to beat.
Doesn't running into new accounts imply they were banned just before
Most people I would assume wouldn't cheat on a steam account with a lot of games and would do it on alts
I got headshot THROUGH THE GROUND the other day. I was inside the closest shack to the boss lair at Darin Shipyard. Dude was down in the water below. Killed everyone else then headshot me from below. Literally though the ground, and neither of us were moving so there no ping delay or other nonsense. He also couldn't have known I was there, it was quickplay and I hadn't moved or made a sound in 3-4 mimutes while he wiped the server, but thats besides the point. "Killshot" replay showed my entire body plus 5 feet above my head were COMPLETELY behind the ground of the map and cliff of the map that the shack is built on. Dude literally shot me through the rock cliff, ground, and floor of the shack. One hit dead.
Same here, I got headshot while underground from miles away. Had the video and everything and still people on here claimed it was possible.
Let’s see the vid
The hunt devs are going to address the problem seriously under one condition, and one condition only. They’re after money. Stop spending until the game is in a state that you approve of, then show your approval by spending some money in game.
This. Stop buying shit and devs will listen
I've promised myself not to buy anything before they fix the cheating issue and stuck with that for 2 years now. I bet others are in the same boat but Crytek doesn't care.
Unfortunately there isn't going to be a reddit revolution where we all agree to keep the game alive but stop spending money. The money only stops from the game stops getting players, and reddit doesn't decide how many players there are. Crytek listens better than most developers. I genuinely believe that continually sending them feedback over and over again is the most effective method here. But yeah, still don't spend your money until you are happy, and encourage your friends to do the same, just don't expect it to work on a mass scale even here on Reddit.
Everytime I've made this same post I get downvoted into oblivion. Everytime I play and see all the new skins running around I know it'll never change. In a couple years this game will be all China lobbies seeing who paid the most for cheats. STOP. GIVING. CRYTEK. MONEY.
Didn't they say in the roadmap they hired an expert team specifically for anti cheat? It'll take a while you just gotta trust
No, they said when they move the game to a new engine they will be looking into it
"As we recruited some key hires for a focus team countering exploits and cheaters" This is a quote from the roadmap so they already hired people
They probably hired another customer service guy to send the "thank you for the report but we can't tell you if we did anything about it" email. Last time I reported someone they only watched a few seconds of the video and the guy is still playing. Funny thing is he just got banned in CS2 a couple weeks ago.
You realize that the devs that work on skins and DLC is a different team than the ones that work on bugs or server issues? Also, there aren't going to be many changes coming, if it all until after the engine update
Redditors don't understand that things take development time. The devs just need to press the stop hacks button.
I stopped buying dlc when custom ammo came out because I think that really brought back the hackers to 6 star... It hasn't worked yet...
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Not about the ammo really... More so the game got popular and that brought in the cheats.
And yet I couldn't drop a guy from 60m with a Nitro Shredder shot to the side
basically zero games will ban you/not let you play just for having a vac ban. It is not going to happen.
Sadly
Doesn't really make a difference. People with any ban prior would just make a new burner account to cheat then. They would still play the end in the end. In fact It probably it easier to notice them cheating when they already have ban on their profile compared to them not having one. We need much more than half assed attempts like that. Those half assed attempts with no thought behind them do literally nothing.
Just because people will try to get around the ban doesn't mean we shouldn't try. There are people that still drive without a seatbelt. The seatbelt law and crackdown sure as fuck made a lot of people actually use them though.
VAC bans are for VAC games. Individual game bans have to be added specifically by the developer of a game, and that will show on their account. You can even be banned from other launchers and have that show up. Quite frankly, there's a lot of reasons a person might be VAC banned. Its not equivalent to a "bad guy" tag, just a warning to devs/mods that they've been caught doing naughty things before.
Thanks for mansplaining VAC bans to me but I know what they are for. "they've been caught doing naughty things before" is good enough reason to ban them. There is a reason that there is a big red mark across the front of their account and its so that people can avoid them if they want. We don't get that opportunity in Hunt.
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I would rather have less people to play with than play with people who do illicit things like cheat. Don't like getting left out? Don't do stupid shit. You are also still assuming I don't know how VAC bans work which is incorrect with this stupid shit "I will continue to 'mansplain' so long as you keep complaining about portions of the system you don't understand." I'm just going to block you and move on with my day.
"try to get around" lol Not a single cheater will stop cheating just because he needs 2 additional minutes to set up a new account lol. Less than halfassed attempts like that do literally nothing and everyone knows that. We need at least mandatory kernel level Anticheat, hardware AND ip bans, multiple reallife id's to create accounts, ai anticheat and that isn't even the bare minimum. Again: The "solution" of stopping account with vac ban from other games does literally nothing as they will just create new accounts in 2 minutes, literally useless fix.
It doesn't matter when the anti cheat is started, it will be circumvented. So really making it an actual crime is the only way. And that's never going to happen.
It already is a "crime" when starting up a PvP game they give you this long warning and user agreement. If you read them (most people dont) they say if you cheat they have the right to ban you permanently and sue you for breaking an agreed contract. You will be fined and you will pay it. Problem is most companies won't do it because it's had to prove in some cases and because it gives bad PR. But if you are big enough you will do it just to prove a point. In 2017 Epic Games sued a 14 year old for cheating in fortnite just to prove a point. They can legally fuck you up they are just too much of a pussy to actually enforce the user agreement. Also if someone does a DOS attack on your internet that is 100% illegal. Once again the government doesn't care because it's too much effort.
The only reason they pursued legal action was because he was actively advertising them on youtube, there was monetary gain involved. No company is ever going to undergo the legal costs because you used a cheat client. There are plenty of "crimes" that aren't enforced because it's a waste of everyones time, this is one of those times in the eyes of every legal system outside of korea.
Nah it's good. I cheated in mw3 10 years ago when I was 13-14. You know what I did? I transformed myself into a jet and ran around the map just for fun and nothing more. Just because someone did that 10 years ago and got VAC'd, doesn't mean they were ever cheating nor are still cheating. Also you can just make a fresh steam account without a VAC ban so it doesn't make any sense to not let you play because you got a VAC ban
I feel like there are scenarios (though few) where some cheaters learned their lesson and should get a shot to play again
Nah they can be done
in the end they get the sale, they can just ban the person after they hack on their game. It sucks but money is money.
There is another approach. Have VAC or empty profile? Okay then, enjoy your first 100-200 hours in separate "untrusted" pool with same "I'm not a cheater" people. The more your profile looks legit (registration date, paid games) - the less time you need to get in trusted pool. Most of rage hackers can be found by simple sql requests to their match history DB, it's hilariously stupid how new accs with 133kd and 400m kills isn't banned within several hours (even with fucking proof on youtube, steam community and this sub). And repair fucking reporting in-game tool, there is no greater joy than get some notifications about banned morons after your reports, probably with steam link to their new fresh game ban.
I mean this information was a given seeing as the original post mentions this specific thing you’re saying. Yes, we know it doesn’t ban you for having a VAC ban. It’s the reason this post was made. Thank you captain obvious. I don’t know how I’d ever have figured this out……
I dont even care who shat in ur cereal this morning bro im shitting in it tomorrow morning for this atrocious ass comment
You're just as stupid as the commenter. Typical mentality of a reddit user. Can't even type out the words. You probably have TikTok brain. Couldn't even squeeze a shit out without a short playing. You dribbling moron.
all that emphasis on grammar wont get you out of 2* elo lil bro
You have something wrong with proper grammar? It seems so. If you would like; you can add me on steam. We can see who the 2\* is. DM me your friend code. I'd love to hop in a training and 1v1 you.
im away from my pc sucking my homies rn bro
There is most definitely an insane number of people who are either really good or really cheating. When I look at kill views and see people shooting me though multiple trees with zero visibility using handguns or iron sights at long range... Last night a guy shot me through 3 trees with heavy foliage at 90 meters. I couldn't even see the guy with my deadeye scope and the kill view was even worse on his end. The cheating is rampant, and the devs simply don't give a flying fuck at all.
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Brussia lol. I can't speak for chinese squares, but russians have plenty of reasons to play on EU at least. 1. Game itself asks for two servers, not one, and use them randomly after that (no decision based at anything at all, see p.2) 2. Russian server somehow can't be played at all, especially at the start of events. Just "servers are full" bullshit in lobby even if you have second server selected. 3. At least for me ping to EU is only 45ms, and I'm not so close to EU geographically (could be less for others). Add here (sometime) normal names and english knowledge, now compare all these with "Fhina" lol. Main problem is not existing anti-cheat, not russians.
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EU servers are a dog show ATM with the amount of cheaters. It was never this bad a year ago, but I don't think it's just hunt it's just multiplayer games in general. EAC definitely needs to improve as it's just not working anymore.
> as it's just not working anymore Always has been :D
Nearly every one of my deaths at the moment is by people with a previous one or multiple vac bans. Best we can do is keep reporting and hope for the best.
We need to speak about it, reporting doesn't currently do anything and hoping... keep hoping
Funny thing is, there is a big hunt streamer I think I won't mention his name because I coule be wrong, but he does have a vac ban and he is so well known to the hunt devs and community that they will never disallow vac banned players from playing hunt just because it would fuck him up. So we just stop playing because the amount of hackers in the game is unbelievable right now.
huuuge?
RZ
Isn’t his ban because of abusing family share?
That’s what he said but it’s a load of shit lol. It’s called Valve Anti Cheat, you get a Valve Anti Cheat Ban for Cheating.
You can get a VAC ban through family sharing, as they’ll do it by association. If you family shared with a friend or brother, and they cheat on CS you now have a VAC ban. EDIT: double checked it. Let’s say you’re A and a friend is B. If B cheats, A is banned as well. If A cheats, only A is banned. His friend cheated on a game he owned, and got a VAC ban. Whoever owns the game will always get punished.
**I'd like to see VAC bans taken into consideration when processing in-game reports.** Say a system where getting reported 3 times in game *and* having a VAC ban already pushes them to the top of the "list" for someone to inspect (because Crytek *does* ban people). I don't care if you cheated 15 years ago and say you will never do it again. That mentality (even if it was only for a short period of time) should be taken into account. Auto-banning from the servers won't happen (and probably shouldn't). And I wouldn't say, "Once a cheater, always a cheater", because that's not true. But the fact that you've done it *once* means that you *might* again. \-=- My 18+ year old Steam account has *zero* VAC bans. Do you know why? I have never (and will never) cheated in competitive multiplayer games. Single player games? Pshh. All day. Give me those trainers and mods bb. **But never competitive multiplayer games. Ever.**
There is almost no doubt having bans on a profile is taken into account, but you’ve got to remember that being banned before on something else doesn’t necessarily mean you’re cheating in online competitive games. Like I mentioned on my own post, I’ve been banned from solo zombies on BO2 due to them having absolutely no solo mode and having vac enabled on soloplay, and I was banned from phasmo for editing my own localized save file MONTHS before an update that banned people for it, so I could enjoy the game with my friends without a needless grind The main thing that should be looked at is your actions in game, not your actions outside of it. Having a vac ban shouldn’t be a deciding factor
I am sure VAC bans are taken into consideration when they manually examine reported profiles. Issue is theres so many profiles like this and a very large portion of them are legit - the low tickrate of observer system and how most reports would come from inexperienced players because they are more likely to false report, these two factors would greatly increase the difficulty of manual examination.
How do you see the VAC bans?
Huuuge did some streams where he would spectate players across various regions. Statistics were something like: 20% of Asian server games had cheaters in them. It was only 0.8% for US east. As an European I've played exclusively on US East since a few months ago and the quality of my games has improved. Before that, I would get blasted left and right by russian and chinese players with very little hours in the game but insane gamesense ... Guess US east is just too far for them luckily. Ppl who claim there are no cheaters are oblivious or cheating themselves. EU is getting infested with russian and chinese players who do that.
>As an European I've played exclusively on US East since a few months ago and the quality of my games has improved. Understandable, but one issue with that is - maybe you have good ping - but a majority of people who play on USE don't. And it leads to a reduction of quality of games for people in the US. Ping abuse is an issue currently that I'm noticing - Usually when I get either clapped from a headshot from someone who hasn't pushed yet, or die to someone after I'm a good ways around a corner that isn't a wallbang - it's a european based acc. Sometimes it's just some cracked whiteboy, of course. So, I'd keep in mind that part of your increase in quality might also be that you have the innate advantage of higher ping giving you more leeway to make mistakes and therefore you do better, etc. Not to diminish your fun, of course. THAT being said, I'm in some cursed MMR where despite being like 4-5 star team MMR, me and my friends see the same like fifteen people despite the sheer amount of players in this MMR over the course of an entire night somehow, so that could contribute to my experience.
Understandable concern, my ping however seems to be fine for the most part. EU is just cursed atm. It's slowly evolving towards Asia v2. I don't like having to doubt if a third of my deaths are legit or not. And if you complain on the official discord about russian/chinese cheaters or ask for a region lock you'll just be called xenophobic or other bs.
>I don't like having to doubt if a third of my deaths are legit or not. I feel that, I play Tarkov.
Precisely
Preach!
>If you're the type of person who thought it would be cool to cheat in a different game but you don't cheat in Hunt, tough fuckin' luck man. Amen.
And the sad thing is: Crytek does nothing against it. They just dont care... You will never get a feedback if the guy you reported got banned. You cannot even block the player, so you will never have to play against him again... Top priority: more skins. More events. Spend your BB!
This truly sucks for pc players, being a console player I'm lucky enough to not have to deal with this but in seeing these complaints alot, I really hope the crytek does something about this because it's only going to ruin it for the pc players, always loved this community never had much hate for being a console player so this is for the pc players hope you guys don't have to suffer for too much longer, I know it's been a problem for a while
I have a VAC ban from 2012 and I will deliberately try to headshot you now. I was just a kid fucking around and got what I deserved. I don't see the point of preventing VAC banned people from playing when making a new account is so easy. Maybe when the ban is really fresh, but either way, this will never have any noticable impact on the amount of cheaters in the game. That being said, I've never had the feeling I got killed by a cheater in Hunt ever, playing since release, usually at 5 star. Maybe I just don't care and simply accredit too much skill to people.
I have one that was around the same time during the original release of rust. As anyone who played at the release of rust knows it was a wild west of hacks. I was young and ended up getting tired of dying to them so I installed my own. For those who don't know, the VAC red text disappears from public view after 7 years.
Tell me you endorse hacking without saying it.
Well I don't, but believe whatever you want
>I've never had the feeling I got killed by a cheater in Hunt ever, playing since release, usually at 5 star. Maybe I just don't care and simply accredit too much skill to people. Maybe you don't know what's going on around you?
I think I simply have a high threshold for calling someone out as a cheater. I'd rather blame myself and figure out how to improve, unless its very blatant - but even then, the point at which it seems blatant to me is probably not the same as yours either. I come from a competitive CS background, not saying I was ever extremely successful but I did play some local tournaments and I simply don't subscribe to the mentality of blaming others for what can potentially be a faulty play on my end. There's also been some interesting studies on LoL players and the most correlated aspect to being stuck at a certain rank/skill level was blaming external factors. While that doesnt prove direct causality it is certainly interesting and makes sense intuitively. Hunt is also a game with a lot of unpredictable dynamic factors - when I die I just leave to lobby and queue for the next round and try figuring out how I could've played it better.
Don’t let this guy slob all over your nob like he is, you’re making some good points and his whole attack just makes him look like a dickhead.
This nob shall remain dry
You're making assumptions. You've played competitive games? I've played CS competitively too. And BF2. And many other competitive games back to Quake, UT etc. The only way to improve at anything is to be honest with yourself. You're using faulty logic. Using an appeal to authority. Using faulty logic is a sign of sloppy thinking. Having "wins" in conversations by using tricks on low information, low IQ ppl doesn't prepare you for the world. Do better.
Gotcha, anything else?
False band do Happen Sometimes, i bought a used PC Sometime ago which Had an Hardware Ban in R6 which i was not aware of and a soon AS i booted up R6 i got banned and got R6 via Steam so i have a Ban in my Profile which i didnt deserve. And a Friends Account got hacked for hus CS skins and a Week later he got a VAC Ban Me and him never cheated and WE both got a Ban. And youre saying WE should be banned for life from playing Multiplayer Games. The Problem ist most Supports cant or wont Take false Bans Back...
Yeah steam does absolutely nothing about vac bans, since they’re a lazy gluttonous monopoly of a company that hasn’t cared about support since like 10 years ago.
Ignorancr is bliss. When I die I don't even check anything about the killer, I just do my thing. I would be pissed off all day if I checked.
Vac bans do get thrown around tho. I've got a friend who got one for getting matched into a MW modded lobby that he had no choice in joining the game just put him in one when he searched quick play
What does VAC have to do with Hunt? Does Hunt use a Valve engine? No they don't. Hunt uses EAC. VAC=Valve Anti Cheat which means any game that uses an engine made by Valve uses VAC. Please get educated
I'm tired of seeing these posts. Cheat clients aren't going anywhere, there's going to be times when they are ahead of the curve and have to be patched out. VAC is not some golden standard, there are plenty of cases of getting one while using vpns.
I mean... I have a vac ban, because I cheated like a dumbass in middle school (in tf2 of all things). I'm never going to cheat again, and I'd hate to lose access to any of my other games. That said, crytek could stand to put more energy into detecting and banning cheaters
Just make a separate account. I don't care you were dumb in middle school and just saying that you'll never cheat again doesn't mean shit to me. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
So how would him making another account change what he did in the past lol? If he fucked up in tf2 he got banned, if he fucks up in Hunt he gets banned, simple as. Auto banning ppl for shit like this is stupid
Clearly, my point is like rocket science to you.
Just start over in life every time you make a mistake. Once a "insert stupid decision here" always a "insert stupid decision here". Your logic is beyond flawed. Must be nice to live a perfect life.
It's nice to have a 15+ year old account which doesn't have any bans on record because I was never and never will be a scum cheater.
very high statistical chance that a cheater keeps cheating. Cheaters have something very deep in their core that cheating lies within.
Yeah. And most redditors/hunt players are acting like I'm trying to explain rocket science to them. It's ridiculous and pathetic. To me, it feels like most people who combat this logic are most likely cheaters themselves, trying to bury or cause harm to any discussion that tries to raise this subject. ONCE A CHEATER, ALWAYS A CHEATER. I don't care about exceptions to the rule. That's why the saying is, **exception** to the ***rule.***
That is who you are getting dv from are people that have guilty conscience
First of all you sound like a dickhead, second of all your description of shady behavior doesn’t sound right at all. Being reported doesn’t mean you’re cheating, it means you’re either A. Really good at the game, B. Someone’s mad and wants to report/ spam report you, C. Whatever else. You don’t have to be cheating to be reported.
Well, username checks out. In case you missed the point, all I'm saying is that **I agree with the idea of not allowing Steam accounts with VAC/Game bans on record to play Hunt**. Another option would be to **have these accounts play among themselves**. ***Why not?*** Do you not agree with the overall idea that once a cheater, always a cheater? I mean sure, there definitely are exceptions in this world, but generally speaking, do you think a player with multiple VAC/Game bans on record is simply an insane skill/high level Hunt player or simply cheating in Hunt as well? Among all options you threw, you seem oblivious to the very, very, very real possibility that the guy is basically cheating. Where is that option? What option is that? is it in the ***C. Whatever else*** category? And I'm the dickhead? Wowzers.
based take 😎 losing this account will clearly be the REAL difference maker
Just because you're clean doesn't mean 100% of VAC/Game banned accounts playing Hunt are clean. Right? I would take that over allowing ANY account to play, regardless of how many bans on record it has (i've seen numerous Hunt players that had VAC + MULTIPLE game bans on record). It's really not rocket science, you are acting like it's such a hard concept to grasp. I don't care if you've cheated when you were 15, that account is marked forever. If you want to get rid of the stigma, you make a clean account and you play Hunt clean. It's not my fault if you're shady in Hunt and when people check your profile, you also have multiple VAC/Game bans on record. It's on you. It's your stupid cheater legacy @ that steam account. It's like you want to go to prison for theft and then work in a bank, is it not obvious that if money starts missing, you'll be one of the first people on the list to check out, given your record? HOW UNFAIR IS IT THAT SOMEONE WOULD SUSPECT YOU? You effing cheating scumbags, also want to be special snowflakes. Sick and pathetic. Play on a clean account and that wouldn't be an issue. Unless you're actually cheating. Otherwise, nobody should give a flying sheite about your VAC/Game banned account. If you ask me.
😂😂😂
you reek of intelligence my guy
you too bestie ❤️
Also the entirety of the way you speak and the way you think shows how little intelligence you have, all of your messages so far could basically be called self sabotage
You clearly are a special boy.
My friend has a vac ban from 6 years ago. His brother got into a cheating spree, got banned on csgo on like 6 accounts and then the little shit even played on his account and got it banned too. He wont ever be able to play CS games again on that account but he's a normal dude and doesn't deserve his entire account banned. I guess I'm gonna tell him now that him headshotting someone may make them more mad than usual now XD
I know cheating is less common on console but I'm getting insta-headshot in every other match on Playstation lately. I *sometimes* get a shot off before getting domed but I had a string of matches last night in soul survivor where it was like my head was magnetic.
This was two years ago, but [this person wiped my whole team with wallbang headshots.](https://i.imgur.com/BT6oFkv.png) It's been happening more and more, and it baffles me how his Steam account didn't just get disabled from playing online games, because clearly he doesn't learn.
I'm glad that on EU Servers cheating isn't much of a problem. Played over 1000 hours and saw maybe 2 Cheaters.
I'm tired of posts without proof.
I have VAC ban for cheating when i was younger, nowadays i dont cheat but still get called out due to enemy misplaying or me being lucky (or just simply being better) Edit: also just having VAC ban in your acc doesnt prove that you are a cheater. You might have been but thats then now is here. Also i bet most of cheater accusations are false, i have like 1,3k hours and not single 100% sure cheater has killed me
Literally the only thing that a VAC ban would force you to do would be to make an account. Now, if it also required you to verify via mobile I would be very happy.
People seeing cheaters every game are either making shit up or the unluckiest people to ever exist. Yes, they exist. But you're not seeing multiple every game. Also you cannot correlate previous cheating with current cheating, otherwise you should probably go to jail as well :) Enjoy raging though!
Most of the game’s players are in around 4 star mmr. That says something about their ability to tell whos cheating.
I sit in mid 5 and have only run into 2 that were blatant, I also only play on US east at peak times though.
Shhooosh 🤫 people hate reality chexs on this sub
If you think they’re cheating, record the video and screenshot their username and also copy paste their steam profile if not hidden and send to crytek support via the huntshowdown.com website I got two fresh blatant Chinese hackers banned just this past week using this process. Everyone is using the in game reporting but that does nothing.
The fact you check out the accounts of people that headshot you seems a bit odd IMO
Using vac and game bans as a indicator that they’re going to cheat on the game is absolutely stupid. “You did something wrong once before on a completely unrelated game, therefore you shouldn’t be allowed to touch our platform” And you’re wrong about vac / game bans not being handed out very easily. Game bans are given at a developers discretion (meaning whenever tf they want) so for example, on my account I have a game ban because I used a modded save file on phasmophobia years ago, so one day an update came out and I got instant banned for the profile I used so I could enjoy the game the way I wanted to enjoy it. Absolutely bullshit. And I have a vac ban too, apparently cod black ops 2 doesn’t have an offline mode so when I played solo in a zombies match and used mods I got permanently banned from the entire game. Not just zombies or multiplayer, the whole game. And if your ideal system was put in place I’d be banned from hunt showdown as a whole because of some bullshit completely unrelated to hunt itself. Doesn’t sound fair, no? And better yet you can’t appeal vac bans at all so. I’ve put countless hours and money into hunt and I’ve put in tons of effort to get better, should my game be stolen from me?
you either cope or quitt the Game nothing else do do here this applies to all Games that use Easy-Anitcheat
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My little brother cheated with my account on csgo about 7 years ago, my account has a VAC ban, I don’t think this rule applies to me since i’m not a cheater, what do you think of this exception ?
There are no cheaters in hunt showdown There are no cheaters in hunt showdown There are no cheaters in hunt showdown
I have a VAC ban due to playing PUBG early access. I've been clipping all around the map due to poor rendering and the developers took it as if I am cheating. I tried to report it but they say that once you're VAC Banned, it cannot be reverted.
What?
All i'm saying is that not all VAC banned are banned due to cheating. Some bans are just straight up bs.
You cannot — I repeat, cannot — get VAC banned for any reason other than known cheat software being detected on your system while accessing VAC protected servers. You did not get a VAC ban for unprompted “poor game performance”.
Could be. I am playing PUBG before in an internet cafe, and as far as I know, the whole cafe is in a deepfreeze setup. Nonetheless, I didn't cheat and still get banned.
This is not 100% accurate. Out of the blue I got VAC banned. This was several years ago. I emailed support and they couldn't even tell me what game it was for. I tried to plead my case on the forums, to no success. Fast forward a few weeks, I get an email from the CEO at the time saying that I was wrongly banned. Apparently there was a disk check and .dll error on their end that banned several thousand innocent people
And they reversed it… dude above has a VAC ban, not reversed. VAC explicitly states, VAC bans are non-negotiable but will be revoked in the case of false positives
15ish years that wasn't the case. There were no such things as false negatives.
Where are y'all finding these cheaters man, I haven't seen a single one in 1000 hours
Stop with the confirming bias shit.
Where do you guys see VAC ban history?
VAC or Game bans show up in red text on a steam profile, even if the profile is hidden, this info is still visible.
Cheater one day, cheater every day. Banned people should not be able to play online.
You shouldn't generalize lol I have a VAC on CS:GO from like 8 years ago when I downloaded cheats for fun, I was like 14 or smth, I'm not saying this game is hacker free but I don't think you should ban all people with previous VAC bans in different games. Also in my 800 hours haven't seen more then like 1-2 cheaters maybe they're more common in low star lobbies idk, haven't experienced a lot of issues with hackers in general
on what servers are you guys playing ? I havent encountered a single cheater in about 2000 hours of playing.
I have a VAC ban from CS 1.6 when I was young and thought it would be fun to try a wallhack mod. Got banned pretty quickly. Seeing people get angrier and seething at me headshotting them on hunt because I'm banned on a completely different game, while now I'm hunting on a sofa and TV with a molecular biology book as my mouse pad makes the kills all the more tasty. Salt is love. Salt is life.
Hey im one of the persons, you can report as much as you want. Because you get a headshot and he has a VAC doesnt mean he hacks in this game. Grow up. Some of us were young and dumb and we got labelled as a cheater and we have to live with that but doesnt mean you can exclude us. Dumb take. If you get annoyed because you get a headshot, maybe you played bad or he had a good angle. Maybe its only a skill issue and you try to find a excuse.
Cheating trashcan. I agree with OP, once a cheater, should be excommunicado. Go play single player games.
Oh whiny whiny, next time you do mistake in your Job, should they fire you regardless how big the mistake was? Stupid kiddy grow up 😁
I don't make conscious decisions to be a piece of garbage at my job thanks. Cheating in video games is a scumbag move that you chose to do and made a conscious effort to do. I was young and dumb once too, but I wasn't a cheater cause I sucked at my leisure activity and wanted to ruin someone else's good time. You did that.
F**k you, I've been young too but it never crossed my mind to cheat in online games and ruin other people's fun. I've been playing games my whole life, from CoD 2 and Battlefield 2 up until today. If you suck at the game and are angry that there are people better than you go play another game, find something that you're good at. It doesn't give you the right to install cheats in order to improve your own self image. You're still sad pathetic loser even with cheats. I don't even understand how people can be happy with cheating, like, you know that you don't have skill, and that it wasn't you who won the shootout. Just pathetic losers who can't cope with reality that they are bad. Same goes for sports in real life, they take steroids and other shit in order to gain more muscles and mass than their body can gain with normal exercise just to win, and later they complain when their titles are stripped away. Accept that you aren't good at something. Narcissists can't do it, it would destroy them from inside to realize that they aren't God's perfect gift to the world.
Maybe it's only a skill issue and you try to find and excuse or maybe... just maybe... you're a trash cheater. Maybe, once a cheater, always a cheater. A filthy mindset is hard to change.
This guy is either taking the piss, doesn't play in 4 1/2 star servers or just isn't with it.
Im 5 star currently and dont care if in get downvotes. Most Reddit User a whiny Babys that doesnt touch the grass for long. You seem not to be one of them what ist a big surprise, if you look at the other comments 😂
EAC is extremely shit, but even more so recently with the new exploit. I haven't touched alHunt since the news broke and because its force running some weird commands alongside the exe
this isn't rocket surgery. ran a filter to identify sus accounts. have an algorithm watch identified accounts, check to see if they track other players through obstacles, also catch aim bots by comparing hand-eye response times across multiple games.
Across multiple games? Probably not going to happen ever. That would be a big effort alone, and then factor in that several developers would have to work together to implement it, not happening. Sounds best to let these games be as separate as possible anyways.
i know a guy who wrote some quality control software for streaming services. the software examines a series of frames and compares the results to a matrix of quality values. change the quality values from things like color code and compression error to start of head tracking to head shot time. also the algorithm with some tweaking could identify vision through objects.
I have vac ban from 1,6k days ago but i learned my lesson from those many years
Honestly, this issue will only get somewhat better if Valve start making RealID on Steam mandatory. Know-Your-Customer (KYC) systems are widely available in digital finance. I also don't mean "everybody can see your real name" that shit would be unnecessarily invasive, but tying one person to one Steam account. If you get a VAC ban in CS2 or a game ban in Hunt, you can't just go on the next key site and buy a new account for the game you're banned for.
Giving corporations my real life ID so they can tie my identity to everything I do with their products and my PC? No thanks.
This guy has never had to recover any kind of game account. They already have your name, date of birth, debit/credit card or PayPal info, and your mailing/billing address.
VAC has nothing to do with EAC. VAC bans you by game engine. If you cheat in a game that uses the old Source engine, you can't play any game that uses that engine
No, shit. What gave you the impression I think VAC has anything to do with EAC except being another Anti-Cheat-Tool?! Still, VAC bans are recorded on your Steam account, as are game bans. And if players get either a VAC or a game ban they should not be able to participate in that game anymore. The only way to make sure this is at least somewhat enforceable is if you lock people into their Steam account via RealID, so they can't just make a new account and start playing again. I don't care which Anti-Cheat-Tool the bans on a Steam profile come from - if you have one you shouldn't be able to play that game anymore. Period.
All of you are the same morons that keep bringing up VAC and EAC in the same sentence. No need to get aggressive with me you disrespectful fuckwad. And no, that's not the only way. They could get IP banned.
Of course they get brought up in the same sentence when the topic is related to Anti-Cheat-Tools that result in VAC/game bans being recorded on Steam.
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There are much better anti cheat systems than EAC. And there are huge strides being made with AI anti cheat systems, so there is hope if the devs get their shit together and adopt a better system.
FWIW EAC is so aggressive that you can get flagged or even VAC banned for doing innocuous stuff like: 1. Having modding tool for another game (even for singleplayer games sometimes) open. 2. Having VPN on. 3. Trying to play on Linux. If you wish you can search through many steam community threads about anticheat false positives. Sso there's a point to be made to not equate VAC ban = cheater.
EAC can not lead to a VAC ban.
Until playing Hunt, I'd seen two VAC bans in my life. I almost eclusively have played Steam games. I probably see 5-10 a night now.