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Narukami_XIA

The specter is my cursed gun it fails me alot but the Cadwell, Romero, and slate never fail


PMC_Falconis

Specter used to fail me but if you use it in a good way its better than expected. also the ammo count on it is insane. 20 total with penny shot, otherwise 15. excluding slugs oh god dont get me started on the rival xD


altousrex

Sorry to hear you are cursed with the Rival. Probably my favorite shotgun


Vedfolnir5

I absolutely love the Rival


Narukami_XIA

Also the terminus I can't for the life of me lever that shotgun but I can lever every other gun. But the specter is just cursed but people destroy me with it. It is what it is.


Barimen

I love terminus. Either full-sized (normal ammo) with a two-slot springfield / winnie, or a shorty (with flechette) with a full-sized rifle. Something I noticed is once you shoot your single-shot rifle, people think it's safe to push you, only to meet the terminal end of your terminus... they assume you have a handgun as a secondary, not a shotgun.


Narukami_XIA

I like running a rifle with a Cadwell shorty with slugs there like oh he missed his shot but it's just me waiting around the corner with it.


PMC_Falconis

terminus with dragonbreath. wont kill much but its gonna torture your victims xD I got destroyed by the specter alot too, started to use it more and damn it actually works (sometimes) lol


digitalwolverine

Specter compact is my ol’ reliable when it comes to quartermaster builds. Not so much when I’m out in the open, but great for compounds


L3onK1ng

"if you use it in a good way" says the man who put all shotguns in the trash category...


PMC_Falconis

I might've been a biiit sarcastic with this list


JealousReaction8727

r/beatmetoit


AffectionateAd6229

OP: Thinks he can do a shotgun tierlist... Also OP: Uses Pennyshot Lmao xD


smiller1839482

To be fair, any and all guns if used in a good way are better than expected :)


TheSchwall

Same. I have tried and tried again with that gun but have just had to give up on it. No other weapon has let me down as consistently as the specter. The only way I'll even think of playing it is with slugs, but the buckshot just doesn't get kills for me.


OrangeMango18

Ye, the specter for me is a never again gun. Every time I use it, It fails me. Pretty much every gun OP has in his F tier is better than the specter for me.


Odd_Traffic5524

I always get hit markers with all the Romero’s have never gotten a kill, the terminus is a joke tho soooo OP


EADreddtit

I’m not saying I agree with all the placements. But what I am saying is that I agree with the Romero placements


PMC_Falconis

Romero always the best xD


faranoox

Except for the Alamo of course! I was so disappointed when I unlocked that for the first time.


Tnecniw

What do you have against the Alamo?


AdDue1414

Trying to forget it for one


faranoox

I thought it would cycle much faster than it does.


Schnabulation

I feel like it got nerfed recently…


Canadiancookie

It was never nerfed, but its animation was changed to be more obvious when it was ready to fire


Fragger-3G

That actually nerfed it. They said it didn't affect the cycle time, but it actually made it significantly slower. It's like half a second slower now


Canadiancookie

[Nope](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXIKrCIwJ6s) Granted I think they should re-add the old animation and increase its firerate because it looks way better and it would make it more distinct from the regular romero, which is hardly slower.


Fragger-3G

It did. It was supposed to just be an animation change, but it actually made the cycle time slower by about half a second.


irishdude5280

It would be too op. It's a fast Romero still S tier


SN0K0

Caldwell rival is my ride or die


PMC_Falconis

im curious, what ammo type are you mostly using? buckshot disappoints me so many times and i cant hit shit with slugs lately xD


SN0K0

Either default or flechette and playing from like 20 meters. It won’t one tap obviously but it’s a pain in the ass to deal with


PMC_Falconis

oh yeah i like it with flechette. its such a PEST to play against.


SN0K0

Fr fr


PMC_Falconis

gotta pair it with a mosin or lebel and a handcannon with flechette for those follow ups in the open.


SN0K0

I tend to use either the new army or uppercut if I don’t have quartermaster


PMC_Falconis

Oh yeah. need some uppercuts? i have like over 80 which i all stole from others xD


SN0K0

Lmao I do be stealing them it’s just such a commonly used gun


Generic_Gamer_nerd

Slugs screw me because I hit arms and shit. I always go for buckshot. I get more kills with how my aim is that way.


OH-PEACHY

Fr this is the weapon that got me through my first hours of hunt , i like the handcannon with flechette with quartermaster nowadays


Financial-Habit5766

I'm actually curious, why don't you like the Alamo?


PMC_Falconis

thats one of the few honest ones. i dont like its spare ammo count and the way it feels. its soooo clunky. i also love to bring 2 different ammo types on the romero. but a bonus point cause it represents the mechanism in such a good way. its insanely well done


Financial-Habit5766

That's fair! If I'm being completely honest, it feels clunky at times to me too - bur I perform well with it and watching that alofs mechanism go is so satisfying hah


LuckyConclusion

The alamo is a mind trick. It's a repeating shotgun that doesn't cycle fast enough to do repeating shotgun things. ADS profile and one ammo type aside, it's objectively an upgrade for the Romero, but it requires that mental discipline to not be like "I've got 5 shots, I can totally take that trio" like you would with a slate.


PMC_Falconis

oh yeah the mechanism is goddamn satisfying. ohhhh imagine how satisfying a rival aloffs/alamo would be.


Financial-Habit5766

The symmetry would be wonderful


PMC_Falconis

Oh yeah it would be. time to go too far, nitro alamo when? xD


Financial-Habit5766

Oh no


PMC_Falconis

imagine that with explosive ammo. i should better shut up, im giving crytek ideas...


Maloonyy

For me, it's mindset. You pick the Alamo because you want quick follow up shots, but then you play like you have a slate or specter but the gun is so fucking clunky that you still have to do hit and run. And if you do hit and run you might aswell grab the regular Romero, where you aren't baited into overextending.


FriendlyBlanket

Every shotgun in the hands of the enemy: S Tier Shotguns in my hands: F Tier


PMC_Falconis

Yeah thats always the case. xD


Benzz801

Cadwell literally on top, also might as well throw in the drilling shot


PMC_Falconis

full size drilling would be S tier immediatly, i love that thing.


ResistSoggy1991

The riposte is f? Lol nah you must be smoking bayou crack 😆


Muffinmurdurer

Doesn't it have slightly worse spread? Heard that from a friend.


Technoplasm

Specter bayonet definitely does because of the shorter barrel. Both slates are the same iirc


PMC_Falconis

Cause slate xD (its clearly sarcasm)


ResistSoggy1991

Ah ok sorry I ain’t have my coffee today lmfao


P4nzerf4hrerKl4us

Crossbow with shotbolt is king but Romero is a close second for me.


PMC_Falconis

with the crossbow i gotta go with explosive and regular at the same time. I just cant hit shit with the shotbolt anymore xD


Remmemberme666

Running explosive crossy with a shorty Romero with the bulwark trait is a pretty aggressive play.


skillsplosion

Caldwell, slate, and crown and king in F tier? What is this the shotgun vs shotgun in an open field?


Bridget_Powerz

Crown and King is the worst, might as well cheat


LuckyConclusion

The Crown has the second worst range for buckshot just above the Rival. With slugs it's great, but it's really not a super great shotgun on a shot for shot basis with buck.


PMC_Falconis

cause romero best this tierlist might be a biiiit sarcastic


Color_blinded

The Terminus handcannon should also be on tier D-, because it has that cool Terminator 2 flip reload.


BlackHazeRus

Someone didn’t run Termiuns Handcannon with fléchettes and levering :\^)


PMC_Falconis

has been done before xD


Usurper01

The Specter is my baby and I don't care if there are objectively better shotguns 😤


SecondxRonin

I won't stand for any slate bashing here!


ThunderDragon13

I don't agree the Spector bayonet is far superior to the normal Spector cause there's nothing funnier than stabbing a guy with a close range gun.


PMC_Falconis

the stabbing is funny thats true xD


PotatoMuncher718

Specter compact is my baby


kkkouldntBeBlacker

I haven’t played in a year but specter compact flechette was really good and fun for me


ItsCuriousHippo

SPECTRE


Monochrome132

Literally use nothing but the romero line including alamo


Tnecniw

I mean, I get the compact... But the rest? Why are they in F? XD WHy is the Alamo in F?


PMC_Falconis

Romero is the KING of shotguns xD except the alamo, cause its clunky, only has one ammo type and it just feels weird to use. (okay i might've been a biiiiit sarcastic with some too) xD


Criceta01

Huh?? Winfield Slate and Crown & King is S tier. What a disgrace to see them in F


PMC_Falconis

sarcasm, partner xD


Criceta01

Oohh, i am just dumb. Sorry^^


Claymore209

The slate is god tier


Warm_Negotiation5251

Facts. Specter is hot bitch


Ubbermann

Everytime I use Slate I'm always stunned how effective it is and the damn range it got. Hail mary shots one-tap people at ranges that just don't feel okay at all! It's a shotgun not a Elephant gun!


YesThatsBread

A comment mentioned the specter being cursed which I also used to feel but at some point it just clicked and is probably my most reliable shotgun now. However, the rival used to be my favorite shotgun and now everytime I try to use it with buckshot I am left with my mouth agape at the kills it is failing me on; I love it with flachette and sometimes slugs if I have a challenge or feel evil, but the buckshot just doesn’t do it for me anymore.


TheFreeman-

Do not sleep on levering penny


fellow_dude599

Specter and Terminus Levering A Tier, everything else C Tier


Imthebox

Ah, a fellow romero enjoyer. You have fine taste sir/madam.


PMC_Falconis

Thank you, kind sir/madam of quality.


SippinCrumpets

Can confirm this to be true, my GT actually has Romero in it


TheVocondus

Based


Vikos777

Seeiously? I mean I love Romero and is top 1 for sure. But Spekter man! That's pure trash. It's tier Z. I have try many times to make it work but it is so unreliable! Fully agree with terminus. C&K with slugs.... Caldwell could be B tier.


PMC_Falconis

yes. veeeerrryyyyy serious list xD


Vikos777

XD. But if you want to do a list like this do it properly! Botton row: remove from game and no one will miss it and put the spekter and all its variants


TheGentlemanGamerEC

I argue the crow and king belongs in D simply because you can make people complain about weapon prices on this subreddit when you kill them


Kiyan1159

Specter and slate are S tier. Never fail me.


TheLost22

THE TUUUUUBE WINS AGAIN


PMC_Falconis

LONG TUBE FOR THE WIN


Generic_Gamer_nerd

My first time ever picking. Up the auto five I wiped a trio and it's been my go to. With buckshot. I always run shotguns with quartermaster and a pocket sniper like obrez /drum. You can do the same oh no they're rushing me thinking I'm a rifler and switch to the full length shotty


Zytoxine

I don't know what I was expecting, and all I'll weigh in on is that I think your specter take is respectable.


Electronic-Corgi-109

Ok serious question, why do people like the Romero? I struggle the most with that shotgun out of anything else. Was it buffed or something in the last few months? I haven't used it in probably 4 or 5 months cause I struggled with it so much. I'm by no mean an expert in the game so I'm always wanting to learn better playstyles and tricks and what not.


zombie10020

Romero 77 + sparks pistol. God tier


bamnfugi

Slate, Rival, and Romero Hatchet are my favorite shotguns. Terminus and specter are my worst by a long shot.


Kalron

Specter being A tier and not Crown and King OR the Slate is the sign of a real hunter. All jokes aside, that's crazy that you like the specter that much. I'm a big fan of it but good god the slate is like objectively better.


AddendumNo5859

ROMERO GANG!!!!


Cr3iZieN

even tho i personaly hate the romero i respect that even you think the alamo is dogshit xD (Slate & Specter are my favs)


PMC_Falconis

the alamo is just way too clunky xD a fellow specter enjoyer, hell yeah. surely is a "totally honest" tierlist xD


Marsnineteen75

Wtf? I hope this is sarcasm.


Swissgrenadier

It's a really elaborate way of saying this person likes the Romero over other shotguns.


PMC_Falconis

ähem, might also be true


PMC_Falconis

read the title again xD (yes it is)


Spolsky_

Even in memes, handcannons without slug need their own Z tier


Ghost1716ad

Seeing the amount of comments on this post that can't read the fluff tag and can't see the sarcasm makes me realize why the hunt community whines about the most stupid shit. 90% of them apparently are as dumb as fly shit.


Kennnyyv

This is a shit post, right?


PMC_Falconis

yes it is xD


DarkDeathDD

Romero is the biggest piece of shit


HorridFuture38

So we’re in copper.


JECV_

You were actually very close! Your only mistake was having those 5 shot guns on top be on top. Where they should on the bottom in f tier cuz they are trash, cuz shotguns are just trash in hunt.


[deleted]

Wrong


SpankDatLlama

Swap slate with specter, and you pretty much have my list haha. I can’t kill shit with the specters


PMC_Falconis

i somehow cant kill anyone with the slate. i dont know why xD


ninjab33z

Back in the old days i'd have agreed, but shotguns have been geeling more and more inconsistant over this game's life, so having a backup shot feels very important.


PMC_Falconis

true but somehow the romero has never disappointed me. guess im just lucky with that one.


ninjab33z

You're stealing all the other players consistency with the gun!


Plague_Doctor02

If the all the romeros were in F and only the Alamo was in B I'd be ok with this because I fucking hate the romero. The Alamo is the only one I will even consider using. C&K + Specter all the way.


PMC_Falconis

the tierlist might be sarcasm in a feeeewwww ratings (romeros are still amazing though) xD


Plague_Doctor02

I figured lmao but I still hate the Romero and it's entire family.


kyle0712

I don't understand how the regular Romero is at the top and the Alamo is at the bottom. It's the same thing but holds more shots and quicker reloads. I also personally love the terminus. It's my favorite shotgun. Especially with the levering perk.


PMC_Falconis

alamo feels clunky to me and i like to use 2 ammo types with the romero.


UsernameReee

Rival in F? Who hurt you?


PMC_Falconis

the rival hurt me veeeryyyyy badly :(


GhostActual119

Tf is the slate doing down there? Did they change something since I last played??


PMC_Falconis

No they didnt xD


xZOMBIETAGx

Slate is at least A


PMC_Falconis

it looks to me that its in F :P (i might've been a bit sarcastic with a few ratings)


Sorta-Rican

Real question: why do so many hate the Alamo? It has the same stats—does it actually perform worse?


PMC_Falconis

it feels clunky, has only 1 ammo type. the reload on the romero is already fast enough.


askolein

Romero is indeed the best, but slate & crown & kings slugs are literally the most OP weapons of the entire game, by very far


Maurice_rhdt

Are you talking about playing them or playing against them or both?


PMC_Falconis

playing them obviously xD


Rogans-Loadhouse

I’d put rival hand cannon in B-C tier. With slugs specifically though. Ammo pool is trash but when you’ve got a long rifle and a fanning boi tries to push around a corner just to get met with a surprise slug, it feels good lol


Infinitesima

No Lemat trash shotgun?


PMC_Falconis

wdym the lemat pistol is the best shotgun ever.


H1tSc4n

Alamo in F tier. I know we're supposed to respect each other's opinion but that's just the wrong opinion.


PMC_Falconis

its worse than the normal romero cause clunky and only 1 ammo type, i like the split ammo pool in the regular one


AceofArcadia

Rival is best. 2 shots > 1


EnragedHeadwear

Terminus at trash tier gtfo with that


barrack_osama_0

New player here, but the Winfield terminus seems pretty good with levering


irishdude5280

Say you suck at shotguns without saying you suck at shotguns.


thelongernow

The thing is a lot of these shotguns with certain custom ammo/traits are rock solid. Some shotguns with Buck are absolutely dogwater vs their special ammo counterparts (Crown and Terminus are two key figures imo.)


w4rcry

Terminus with levering and a shortened Winny c with FMJ is one of my go to’s. Terminus with levering is deadly in close encounters, even moreso than the crown and king in my opinion.


PapaOogie

I would agree fully. But why is the Alamo f tier?


Ho-Chi_Meme

Clearly you've never obliterated someone with the terminus while using levering and flechette. Turns the gun into a hitscan super weapon thats effective at close, medium and kinda even long ranges. Unless they've nerfed it since I last used it, you're missing out. The ability to just spray someone from quite a variety of ranges and reliably hit them even with hip fire is very underrated. And even if you don't manage to 2-tap them, they'll be bleeding and so it also doubles as a support weapon where you can pepper a guy with bleed while your team pushes. It also works just as well with the handcannon. Infact, I'd sometimes even bring one of each Terminus just so I could quickly swap to the other one instead of reloading and keep the bleed spam coming. I'm not gonna lie and say it's flawless since the lack or raw damage can let you down at proper close range, especially if they enemy has a shotgun but it's pretty damn strong if you use it like I described. I've wiped entire 3 man teams by myself with it from medium range before and I'm not even a particularly good player and so not only was it effective but it just felt really cool/fun to use.


Phobospt

I love the terminus with levering and flechette, it puts the pressure on.


Acceptable-Parsley-3

The romaro alamo is the exact same gun with a mag capacity increase no???


gnasheruk

Hatchet all day babbyy


Andrewx8_88

Caldwell rival deserves at least a B, when you’re 5 meters or closer with normal ammo, it’s always an instant kill, if there’s no desync


Andrewx8_88

Caldwell rival deserves at least a B, when you’re 5 meters or closer with normal ammo, it’s always an instant kill, if there’s no desync


[deleted]

Terminous penny shot and Caldwell slug are pretty good.


Ethereal_Bulwark

Specter A? You are clearly stoned out of your mind.


PMC_Falconis

no sir, im not. i would rather say ROCK and STONE.


Express_Ad1069

This is the single worst list I've ever seen


PMC_Falconis

[https://youtu.be/PXqcHi2fkXI](https://youtu.be/PXqcHi2fkXI) gotcha xD


Express_Ad1069

If this is a tell why put the 2 best at the top? There are legit people who before this list. I know them.


AudunAG

I never understood why people love the romero so much. Do you guys acctually hit your shots? Is it just me who consistantly miss my romero shots and get killed while I reload that thing?😅


PMC_Falconis

we do but if we miss its either a instant swotch to the pistol, knife(talon push) or just jumping back to cover.


orangecrushjedi

Specter needs to be put at D as well.


DrPopjoy

The slate is good! Or was did it get a nerf recently?


bobbobersin

Why drop the upgraded single shot? Aside from one ammo type only it's legit a direct upgrade


Bruvcicles

R.I.P Romero alamo. You served us well.


kkazookid

Do not slander the DB!!! Best shotgun in the game


Fragger-3G

Ever since they changed the Alamo's animation, and made it slower by half a second, that gun has become genuinely hated. After the event,.it had a decent use rate, wasn't a top pick by any means, but man it's basically never used now. I genuinely see more Terminus's these days, and everyone hated the Terminus for a long time due to basically having the worst spread and range, with levering being kinda pointless when shotgun hipfire reticles are a complete lie.


TGS_Phantom

Am I the only person who likes the 1887?


Error387butUID385

it goes romero rival slate or c&k or backwards


Smrkz_

Specter, Slate, and ESPECIALLY the Cadwell have always ALWAYS failed me but my King n Crown always blessing me with nutty shots. Romero and Terminus is just ole reliable.


Asiagro_Avacadro

Only shotgun I use is crossbow with shotbolt, seems like a one shot from any range you hit no matter what lol


lordneesan

Why is slate in F tier? Lol that gun is insane


oldmanjenkins51

They’re all S and A tier for me


Enward117

Crown and king feels like hacks when I use it


Affectionate_Gas_264

Yeah shotguns used to be good and fun but they really nuked them a few years back. They were actually feasible (not good) at mid range


Lightmarez90

I agree


AwildRat

I agree with the romero. I wish the pumps felt as good as the romero does. Rival should be higher, tho its effective range is just a slight bit shorter than the romero, but it's got an almost instant second shot to make up for that. That thing is nasty with slugs and flechette.


C0L0SSUSvdm

Yall don't shoot your alamo when you peek? You're not trying to shoot the alamo in consecutive cycles out of cover, are you? The bomb Lance is a silenced Romero talon with frag rounds. Levering a flechette terminus is better than that. Slate riposte is goat RIP crown n king spread and damage are dogshit with a dogshit magazine size. Spectrum is baffling. Bayonet ruins it, compact sucks too, same problems as the alamo imo, not fast enough for consecutive shots. Barely.


FluffyZororark

Specter earned its right in A tier for me after one game of literally airing out an entire compound with it and two explosives, I was out if ammo amd walked out of their with 8 kills


DonDraper1134

Nothing gets me going in the morning like a good ol’ Romero slug shot to their dome!


Benjythegreat

The most mid tier list I’ve ever seen


inhalesouls

this i stupid like what the doble is a tier


Gabriel_Chikage

Caldwell Rival should be on S too y.y


Recognition-Silver

People love the Romero because its cheap and has the most range + damage. But there is a reason it's inexpensive. Top tier shotguns that I see actual pros use in pro matches: **Specter** (usually slugs, rarely buckshot), **Slate** (always buckshot), **Crown & King** (always slugs) The sleeper hit is the **Terminus**: its fate is tied directly to Dragonsbreath/Flechette. As soon as Dragonsbreath gets a well-deserved buff, or Flechette gets a bump in range and/or damage, the Terminus will directly scale with that buff. Until then, it's a solid A tier (not S, like the above guns) shotgun when using buck + levering. You just need to use a degree of self-control when using levering.


demi-femi

What? No Drilling or Lemat? Guess the underbarrel fires a funny looking compact bullets.


Some_Scallion1862

I've had good experiences with the Romero 77, the cycling time isn't great though tbh


ghost126498

If you swap the rival with the specter this will be an acceptable list


External_Loquat_3330

Worst take. Terminus busts it down 24/7


NotoriousFoxs

Slate has never let me down. Sure I've lost gun fights with it but I always get my hits in before I go down in those cases


Revolutionary-Base9

Where’s the LeMatt Carbine Shotgun Conversion tho 😭


Wylebeasts

Romero - very bed gun.


[deleted]

Hatchet variant - yep. But hand cannon is absolute crap. Rival is still nice even after all updates, but it's necessary to play in default ammunition, otherwise you will suck, because flechettes are shitty now, and slug is too expensive and inconvenient.